My Clem is still caring and concerned about his group safety (I gaved up when Carver tortured Carlos,I didn't want him to be killed,and i protected Alvin taking the risk to be shot by Carver),but surely isn't the same Clem of Season 1. I chosed a brave attitude for her,and I actually loved the "let's take 'em" line at the bridge,with her smiling and wanting to fight.
I think he got banned before for posting stuff like that, even looking at his comments about Clementine dying and Sarah being the protagonist pretty much confirms who he is.
People saying they prefer her when she was younger, it's kinda weird to me.
Imagine if you went to your daughter someday and said you lik… moreed her better when she was a kid?
"Yeah, I like you and all, but I wish you'd never grown up"
It ain't right.
No, but seriously... Now that I think of it, you think she was blaming her of Omid's death?
I think she did but never told her. Her eyes said it all, when she was in the bathroom with Omid in her arms - she looked at the gun and knew it was Clem's gun and then looked at her with eyes that screamed ITS YOUR FAULT ! HE'S DEAD BECAUSE OF YOU ! And later she lost her baby ("because of" clemmy)
THATS WHY CLEM SAID "SOMETIMES PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE OF ME" to Luke.
It's sad, but hey.. It's the apocalypse.
People saying they prefer her when she was younger, it's kinda weird to me.
Imagine if you went to your daughter someday and said you lik… moreed her better when she was a kid?
"Yeah, I like you and all, but I wish you'd never grown up"
It ain't right.
I think he got banned before for posting stuff like that, even looking at his comments about Clementine dying and Sarah being the protagonist pretty much confirms who he is.
I was thinking the same but he got banned and we are not supposed talk about banned members and as the PM system is broken so i can't report my suspicions in private to a mod.
I hope Kenny somehow brings back a little bit of season1 Clem into her. She was smiling around almost everything in the ski lodge after meet… moreing Kenny again and he made her laugh real good too. Probably she first time she's laughed in those 2 years that have passed.
I was thinking the same but he got banned and we are not supposed talk about banned members and as the PM system is broken so i can't report my suspicions in private to a mod.
its in the rules
4.3 Please refrain from talking about banned members or their ban reasons "behind their back" during a timeout.
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hopefully we aren't breaking it too much by saying that we think its the same person but we are not really supposed to talk about them.
When she said "oh...shit" I yelled SWEAR at the screen. They're the same people, but Clementine feels more pissed off, I kind of don't like it. Clem was supposed to be a nice innocent and forgiving little girl, now she seems, I don't know...angry? I think that's the best word for it.
I agree with you 100%
Some also say it's not believable how her character has changed so much over the course of a year. Truth is, it is very believable. She is a kid, and kids absorb things like sponges. The very fact that the whole world change over night makes perfect sense for someone the age of Clem to become the person she is quickly becoming.
It makes perfect sense that most adults in this game complain and whine about how messed up things are because adults know better. They know the world isn't supposed to be like this. For them it is wrong and lets face it...most of us don't like change (even in a work environment). Kids just adjust easier because they are still trying to figure out who they are going to be.
To conclude, badass Clem is the only Clem for me. She was perfect the way she was in Season 1 and her development in Season 2 is spot on.
S2 clem is the greatest. Her whole demeanor is so dope to me. All the people complaining about s2 clem and saying she should be like s1 clem… more need to grow up and realize that in the real world being cute and innocent won't get you nowhere. She had to toughen up or die a very painful death at the hands of a horde of walkers or possibly harmed by sadistic psychos that could have done God knows what to her. Clem is a product of her environment, a tough unforgiving environment, thus why she is who she is now.
I honestly found her not that much different at all in the two episodes. Like I said before, her monotone behaviour is how ANYONE would be like who's grown up to see all the horrible things they've seen.
Yup exactly that, I don't know why anyone would expect something different though when she's lost everything and everyone close to her in just 2 years.
When she said "oh...shit" I yelled SWEAR at the screen. They're the same people, but Clementine feels more pissed off, I kind of don't like … moreit. Clem was supposed to be a nice innocent and forgiving little girl, now she seems, I don't know...angry? I think that's the best word for it.
I personally prefer mature Clem, over younger Clem. Yes Clem in season:1 was adorable, and played a great role, showing the player the developing relationship between her and Lee. But she never really felt authentic enough for me. She wasn't her own person; per se. It was always her and Lee, never just her. Season:2 has given her character independence from Lee. Giving her a more in depth persona. It feels like I'm getting to know her personality a lot better than previously. She now has a plethora of evolving emotions, due to the fact she older, and understands things even more now.
I liked Clem in season:1, but season:2 Clem is a much more complex and developed character.
season 2 clem but this is more biased as i prefer anti heroes more then goody goods and clem even when makeing good choiuces feels like one.
and this kinda annoys me but when people complain about character development being bad writing or wanting the chracter to stay the same. sure after all the shit clem has been through from episode 3 to now lets have her be that innocent little girl forever and let nothing effect her emotionally :P.
Yup exactly that, I don't know why anyone would expect something different though when she's lost everything and everyone close to her in just 2 years.
She had a lot of relief moments with Luke. I would estimate more than she did with Kenny. Im expecting Luke to be the to return her to a child(ish) again, not Kenny.
I hope Kenny somehow brings back a little bit of season1 Clem into her. She was smiling around almost everything in the ski lodge after meet… moreing Kenny again and he made her laugh real good too. Probably she first time she's laughed in those 2 years that have passed.
Which do I prefer? Irrelevant. My desire for a sweet Clem and desire for a hardened Clem are fulfilled in two different seasons. They both bring good stuff to the table, and we can have both of them. They don't interfere with each other at all, so why try to argue which is "better"?
I love both. I'm so proud of Clem and how much she is growing and turning into more mature person. If she was my daughter, I'd be showing her off to the world. Damn it, I love you Clem!
Which do I prefer? Irrelevant. My desire for a sweet Clem and desire for a hardened Clem are fulfilled in two different seasons. They both … morebring good stuff to the table, and we can have both of them. They don't interfere with each other at all, so why try to argue which is "better"?
I agree. Plus it would not be realistic for Clem to remain the sweet and innocent girl from Season 1. She's been through so much that I would not expect otherwise. She's definitely hardened but the glimpses of the younger Clem are still there. I hope she never loses that.
Which do I prefer? Irrelevant. My desire for a sweet Clem and desire for a hardened Clem are fulfilled in two different seasons. They both … morebring good stuff to the table, and we can have both of them. They don't interfere with each other at all, so why try to argue which is "better"?
I really like this badass version. Of course, I liked her before, but if she didn't evolve into this badass, then I wouldn't like her this much. Staying for years, and not growing up tough only will make you get killed. Still, I kind of feel silly when most of the time she sees walkers, she kind of runs away from them. Sure, shooting them would attract noise, but she should start using a knife or a sword or something more...
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My Clem is still caring and concerned about his group safety (I gaved up when Carver tortured Carlos,I didn't want him to be killed,and i protected Alvin taking the risk to be shot by Carver),but surely isn't the same Clem of Season 1. I chosed a brave attitude for her,and I actually loved the "let's take 'em" line at the bridge,with her smiling and wanting to fight.
I think he got banned before for posting stuff like that, even looking at his comments about Clementine dying and Sarah being the protagonist pretty much confirms who he is.
Oh, you're so cool. Good job.
I like Clementine as a whole.
You know, she had to grow up sometime.
She's still the same character.
she had, especially in a zombie apocalypse
People saying they prefer her when she was younger, it's kinda weird to me.
Imagine if you went to your daughter someday and said you liked her better when she was a kid?
"Yeah, I like you and all, but I wish you'd never grown up"
It ain't right.
Christa, you gotta quit that hate on clemmy act, sometime, eh?
No, but seriously... Now that I think of it, you think she was blaming her of Omid's death?
I think she did but never told her. Her eyes said it all, when she was in the bathroom with Omid in her arms - she looked at the gun and knew it was Clem's gun and then looked at her with eyes that screamed ITS YOUR FAULT ! HE'S DEAD BECAUSE OF YOU ! And later she lost her baby ("because of" clemmy)
THATS WHY CLEM SAID "SOMETIMES PEOPLE DIE BECAUSE OF ME" to Luke.
It's sad, but hey.. It's the apocalypse.
I think Magarac is actually BarraganLouisenbarn
I'm liking the moments with Rebecca now. It feels right.
I was thinking the same but he got banned and we are not supposed talk about banned members and as the PM system is broken so i can't report my suspicions in private to a mod.
This episode actually had some of the best happy moments I've seen for a while in this series.
Sometimes it's easy to forget she's still a kid, especially in the zombie apocalypse. Remember what Rick told Glenn back at 316 in AMC series?
How come we cant talk about banned members?
I think that was my fault in the first place for even mentioning the word to him. I remember now :P
its in the rules
4.3 Please refrain from talking about banned members or their ban reasons "behind their back" during a timeout.
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/56307/forum-guidelines-read-before-posting
hopefully we aren't breaking it too much by saying that we think its the same person but we are not really supposed to talk about them.
Ah well thanks for that! You've saved our asses for me doing a "Ben moment".
Season 2 definitely
When she said "oh...shit" I yelled SWEAR at the screen. They're the same people, but Clementine feels more pissed off, I kind of don't like it. Clem was supposed to be a nice innocent and forgiving little girl, now she seems, I don't know...angry? I think that's the best word for it.
I agree with you 100%
Some also say it's not believable how her character has changed so much over the course of a year. Truth is, it is very believable. She is a kid, and kids absorb things like sponges. The very fact that the whole world change over night makes perfect sense for someone the age of Clem to become the person she is quickly becoming.
It makes perfect sense that most adults in this game complain and whine about how messed up things are because adults know better. They know the world isn't supposed to be like this. For them it is wrong and lets face it...most of us don't like change (even in a work environment). Kids just adjust easier because they are still trying to figure out who they are going to be.
To conclude, badass Clem is the only Clem for me. She was perfect the way she was in Season 1 and her development in Season 2 is spot on.
I honestly found her not that much different at all in the two episodes. Like I said before, her monotone behaviour is how ANYONE would be like who's grown up to see all the horrible things they've seen.
Yup exactly that, I don't know why anyone would expect something different though when she's lost everything and everyone close to her in just 2 years.
"Things and Stuff" ?
being nice & innocent wont help u survive in a zombie apocalypse
I personally prefer mature Clem, over younger Clem. Yes Clem in season:1 was adorable, and played a great role, showing the player the developing relationship between her and Lee. But she never really felt authentic enough for me. She wasn't her own person; per se. It was always her and Lee, never just her. Season:2 has given her character independence from Lee. Giving her a more in depth persona. It feels like I'm getting to know her personality a lot better than previously. She now has a plethora of evolving emotions, due to the fact she older, and understands things even more now.
I liked Clem in season:1, but season:2 Clem is a much more complex and developed character.
season 2 clem but this is more biased as i prefer anti heroes more then goody goods and clem even when makeing good choiuces feels like one.
and this kinda annoys me but when people complain about character development being bad writing or wanting the chracter to stay the same. sure after all the shit clem has been through from episode 3 to now lets have her be that innocent little girl forever and let nothing effect her emotionally :P.
Well thanks buddy! I had a much too long discussion with him over that one word.... lol
Not to mention she was a complete outcast with the new people
How the fuck does that "help"???
LIAR!!!
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Trendsetter.
She had a lot of relief moments with Luke. I would estimate more than she did with Kenny. Im expecting Luke to be the to return her to a child(ish) again, not Kenny.
both
Which do I prefer? Irrelevant. My desire for a sweet Clem and desire for a hardened Clem are fulfilled in two different seasons. They both bring good stuff to the table, and we can have both of them. They don't interfere with each other at all, so why try to argue which is "better"?
Well I'm crying. Your song didn't help. Lol
I love this song. I like all the music in the series so far.
I love both. I'm so proud of Clem and how much she is growing and turning into more mature person. If she was my daughter, I'd be showing her off to the world. Damn it, I love you Clem!
Good point.
I agree. Plus it would not be realistic for Clem to remain the sweet and innocent girl from Season 1. She's been through so much that I would not expect otherwise. She's definitely hardened but the glimpses of the younger Clem are still there. I hope she never loses that.
I really like this badass version. Of course, I liked her before, but if she didn't evolve into this badass, then I wouldn't like her this much. Staying for years, and not growing up tough only will make you get killed. Still, I kind of feel silly when most of the time she sees walkers, she kind of runs away from them. Sure, shooting them would attract noise, but she should start using a knife or a sword or something more...