Who else thinks Bonnie will feel guilty?
I know Bonnie was a traitor. But did you see her face when walter was shot? And based on the preview of episode 3, clem and her seem to be smiling at each other. I think she will regret working with Carver.
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Maybe she is being threatened by carver like everywone else.
Good theory.
When Walter is being brought into.the lodge, Bonnie looks away. She obviously feels like she did something wrong. I think she is afraid to go against Carver, as opposed to being manipulated by him. If he is willing to stalk deserters for 5 days, there is something seriously iffy about him
I don't think Bonnie is being bad willingly. She is just terrified about what will happen to her if she opposes him.
Giraffehat is right on the money that's what I think too I also think carver may have manipulated her by telling her that our group is evil or something
Thank you, James. I tip my gentleman hat to you.
I think Bonnie already feels guilty and was manipulated in some way. She only heard carver's side of the story about the cabin group (that Alvin killed George, for example). You could see the "WTF I didn't sign up for this" look when Walt gets shot.
There will probably be a lot of good interactions with her next episode.
Well Bonnie appears to be the second-in-command at the lodge, I think she is a bad person, she tries to turn a blind eye to these things and probably wants to just live in denial so she can be safe.
Now people here seem to think that just because she feels guilty about Walter dying means shes not a bad person. Feeling guilty is not enough, she also needs to be judged on her actions and inaction in these situations.
She COULD be a good person, but her cowardice far overpowers it, perhaps she might be redeemable.
As for Clem and Bonnie hanging out, I think its just Bonnie's task to assimilate Clem into the group
Bonnie seemed pretty shocked that Carver killed Walter. She has some sense of morality left.
I also think that she feels guilty but hides it to maintain her image to her 'boss'. When Episode 3 comes I'm hoping we will get the chance to call her out on what Walter has done for her and ask her if she really does feel any remorse for what happened to him.
Can we keep in mind that she probably has know Carver for a couple of months at the very least? Probably more like a year. To be honest,I wouldn't be surpirised if Carver wound up directly saving Bonnie's life at some point. Lets not forget he has given her a safe place to live for several months now. She has seen all of the good that he has done (setting up a community), and probably not much of the bad.
Feeling guilty won't help her when I've got my gun aimed at her head.
Well, I hope she is. I really liked Bonnie in the 400 Days DLC, she seemed sweet. And now she's just another thug. So there'd better be some explanation on her part for why she puts up with Carver's shenanigans. I suspect she's been brainwashed into believing Carver's "loving community" propaganda and is in denial that what he's doing is morally wrong, but I think she feels guilty because of it all under the surface.
I definitely think there's gonna be an option to guilt trip her for not intervening when Walt was being needlessly executed, he was the nicest guy in the world and certainly demonstrated his kindness to Bonnie by immediately placing his trust in her and giving her free food even though her made-up story was so very clearly BS. There aren't a whole lot of guys like Walt out there, especially in the ZA.
From what we know about Bonnie in 400 Days, she seems like a very manipulatable person. It is clear she has some sense of right and wrong, but those feelings are outweighed by the fact that she is weak-willed and desperately wants to belong. When she was with Leland, it seemed as though she depended on others and became somewhat infatuated with Leland because she needed his shoulder to lean on. After he was gone, she found the rest of the 400 Days group to lean on, and then Tavia. Now that person is Carver, for good or ill. Others have pointed out her reaction to Walter being killed, showing that her morality persists beneath her other shortcomings, and I predict that her morality will come to the surface some time in the coming episodes. She'll finally realize that the time has come to think and speak for herself, whether it be for the sake of Clem, Clem's group, or herself.
Either that or she'll speak up like Carley/Doug did and get shot in the face... that is seemingly how TWD rolls more often than not.
.... Is she reallly? I know in our minds she is as we played as her; but she's never even met clem before so she's hardly betraying her or the group
I agree with you. I do think she's in the same postion the group was in before they left. I think Carver might be quite ruthless and its hard to leave once you've been recruited or taken to his camp.
Bonnie already felt guilty, that's why we got the big cast-down frowny-face Telltale slaps on their characters when Matthew called her out. It's not like it's really ambiguous.
Won't really matter when I make Clementine jigsaw her head open when they're alone in a workshop.
I also noticed a shocked face on Troy's too when Carver was moving Walt forward to execute him.
Hopefully Troy isn't a mute in Episode 3...
He's probably a man with few words, but Clem makes him open up a little. Like if you're nice to him he starts to speak more, but if you're mean he'll be just silent with angry faces.
She stood by while Carver tortured (and threatened the life of) a man in front of his own daughter. Whatever happened to Bonnie between 400 DAYS and HOUSE DIVIDED, you'd have to work overtime to convince me it was enough to make her into the kind of person who'd be ready to do that.
Ye ye.. shes gonna be a weak link there.
Great name! (y)
I actually don't remember seeing Bonnie's face at all when Walt was killed. Did they cut to it or something? I just remember some dialogue option just after. I still think Bonnie feels guilty, what with the way she acts when Walter sees her with Carver, but I don't remember a shocked face after Walt's death at all. Is there a link to a video somewhere?
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It was kinda first that came to mind when it asked me for nickname.
There's gonna be a lot of guilty faces around that Carver's holy-camp
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