I'm thinking there might be a war between Carver's group and Tavia's group(If they turn out to be good) and there will certainly be a lot of death this season. I agree with you about Wellington, Not sure if Wellignton will be a paradise or an empty place with no survivors, however this season ends I hope Clem doesn't end up alone. If it ends in a cliffhanger though and there is no plans to make a S3 I'll be pissed haha.
I'm thinking there might be a war between Carver's group and Tavia's group(If they turn out to be good) and there will certainly be a lot of… more death this season. I agree with you about Wellington, Not sure if Wellignton will be a paradise or an empty place with no survivors, however this season ends I hope Clem doesn't end up alone. If it ends in a cliffhanger though and there is no plans to make a S3 I'll be pissed haha.
Same here, but even that kind of a fortress can still have issues too, unfortunately. Most of the time the problem that causes groups to fall is one that arises from the inside, usually conflict/disagreements between members. The ZA makes people on edge and confrontational apparently, and everyone having a weapon of some sort in their possession doesn't make the situation any better either.
I agree with 1 and 2. It's almost a no win situation. Everything else is fubar.
Also, The only chance I see for "paradise" is inside a fu… morelly armed self sustained fortress type compound (similar to the one at the end of Resident Evil Retribution) where it's guarded 24-7.
Could be possible but with the "Amid the Ruins" slide Clem is surrounded by people one of which looks like Eddie from 400 days, could just be placeholders though, so I'm still not sure If it could be a different group or if it's the people amongst Carver's group and they plan to kill him and help Clem escape.
Since Bonnie is in Carver's group and she leaves with Tavia anyway many people believe that it's the same group but what if she's working as some sort of spy or something but we won't be sure until EP3 comes out can't wait!
Good points @Sayakamiki. The ZA brings out the worse in many people. Almost every ZA featured in entertainment i've seen ends up failing because of internal turmoil and not just from the walkers themselves.
Same here, but even that kind of a fortress can still have issues too, unfortunately. Most of the time the problem that causes groups to fal… morel is one that arises from the inside, usually conflict/disagreements between members. The ZA makes people on edge and confrontational apparently, and everyone having a weapon of some sort in their possession doesn't make the situation any better either.
"What if she's working as some sort of spy or something."
This is actually an interesting thought. However, there are many possibilites for Bonnie being where she is, without Tavia's and Carver's group being the same one. It could also be, that Carver just recently took over parts of Tavia's group.
Could be possible but with the "Amid the Ruins" slide Clem is surrounded by people one of which looks like Eddie from 400 days, could just b… moree placeholders though, so I'm still not sure If it could be a different group or if it's the people amongst Carver's group and they plan to kill him and help Clem escape.
Since Bonnie is in Carver's group and she leaves with Tavia anyway many people believe that it's the same group but what if she's working as some sort of spy or something but we won't be sure until EP3 comes out can't wait!
Thanks, and yep I agree. Like Jolene said in S1, "The dead don't kill their own, it's the living you've gotta be afraid of" For a crazy woman she was eerily accurate about humanity's behavior in general during the ZA. Same thing with the cop from EP1, "People will up and go mad when they think their life is over" Both were kind of foreshadowing in a way, I think.
Good points @Sayakamiki. The ZA brings out the worse in many people. Almost every ZA featured in entertainment i've seen ends up failing because of internal turmoil and not just from the walkers themselves.
Yes I agree with you there, they could be seeking some revenge. We can't be sure until EP3 is out though I hope TTG adds more hubs this time around so we can get to know the group a little more though that way it'll last a bit longer too.
"What if she's working as some sort of spy or something."
This is actually an interesting thought. However, there are many possibilites f… moreor Bonnie being where she is, without Tavia's and Carver's group being the same one. It could also be, that Carver just recently took over parts of Tavia's group.
Perhaps he will be, if Carver has some stuff he wants. Regardless, he just seems like the kind of guy who would survive no matter what. He's crazy awesome like that.
Exactly my friend. That's why things end up the way they do. You see people's true colors when put in a highly stressful or desperate situation.....the ZA being a perfect scenario.
Thanks, and yep I agree. Like Jolene said in S1, "The dead don't kill their own, it's the living you've gotta be afraid of" For a crazy woma… moren she was eerily accurate about humanity's behavior in general during the ZA. Same thing with the cop from EP1, "People will up and go mad when they think their life is over" Both were kind of foreshadowing in a way, I think.
Exactly my friend. That's why things end up the way they do. You see people's true colors when put in a highly stressful or desperate situation.....the ZA being a perfect scenario.
If Wellington is just a fool's dream then what is the silver-lining this season? There has to be something we can hope for. Or is the only thing we can hope for is Clem surviving? Is that enough for you guys? It may be the most Telltale is willing to give us but I will be hoping for a safe haven that Clem can just lie down and rest in without worrying.
I could never be in a group of cannibals. How do you trust a cannibal, honestly? They look at you and they don't see a fellow survivor, they see steaks and chops. This plays into the everyone having weapons not helping the situation, cause I'd have to kill all of them lol.
I could never be in a group of cannibals. How do you trust a cannibal, honestly? They look at you and they don't see a fellow survivor, they… more see steaks and chops. This plays into the everyone having weapons not helping the situation, cause I'd have to kill all of them lol.
Christa wasn't sold on it. Hell, I don't think it's possible for her to be "sold" on anything anymore. All she said was that it'll be safer there because of the cold. Kenny was talking about it like it's some kind of sanctuary from the dead.
I could never be in a group of cannibals. How do you trust a cannibal, honestly? They look at you and they don't see a fellow survivor, they… more see steaks and chops. This plays into the everyone having weapons not helping the situation, cause I'd have to kill all of them lol.
I'm starting to fear this. It might end up being like Crawford or the Comics and TV Show Atlanta. I'm still hoping we'll at least meet Christa though...
I know hard things must be done to survive, But I still don't get how they had the stomach for that I mean IMO Andy and Brenda didn't seem like they were such baaad people or anything like that.
Yep. I think the St. John family was fucked up even before the ZA, Danny especially. He seems like a sadist, wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to suggest cannibalism to Andy & Brenda in the first place. Plus he has unused dialogue that implies he's a pedo. His obsession with his rifle Charlotte is creepy too, and he did taxidermy on his mother's dead cat...
It was only 3 months into the ZA when they started cannibalizing other people, hell they had a whole field of corn and a cow, yet they had to resort to the lowest act possible. The Motor Inn group was living off of scraps.
Well said. Reminds me of the 2nd album "Killers" with Eddie and the ax in his hand lol.
Also Look at the St.John family. Everyone was expendable and they wasted no time in collecting their human groceries and showing who they really were.
I know hard things must be done to survive, But I still don't get how they had the stomach for that I mean IMO Andy and Brenda didn't seem like they were such baaad people or anything like that.
You're right. They seemed all nice and friendly but when pushed over the edge they went with basic instinct and shoved humanity out the door. To them meat was meat.
I know hard things must be done to survive, But I still don't get how they had the stomach for that I mean IMO Andy and Brenda didn't seem like they were such baaad people or anything like that.
You're right. They seemed all nice and friendly but when pushed over the edge they went with basic instinct and shoved humanity out the door. To them meat was meat.
I'm starting to fear this. It might end up being like Crawford or the Comics and TV Show Atlanta. I'm still hoping we'll at least meet Christa though...
Well said. Reminds me of the 2nd album "Killers" with Eddie and the ax in his hand lol.
Also Look at the St.John family. Everyone was expendable and they wasted no time in collecting their human groceries and showing who they really were.
I had figured that maybe Danny wasn't crazy and they just wanted you to think that. And that maybe Brenda and Andy were the real crazy ones. And... I don't know. Telltale's writing throws me through all kinds of hoops.
True, true. It's scary what people will do for survival or when they're pushed too far. They'll abandon all morals and humanity just to keep what's important to them alive, whether it be themselves, their family, etc.
Andy was in denial, Brenda tried to justify it but couldn't, and Danny, well, I'm a bit conflicted on him but I think he genuinely thought what they were doing was right because it was for survival. I honestly teared up when Andy was screaming at Lee as the Motor Inn group walked away, the guy was totally and completely broken.
You know TWDG is a good game when you actually get emotional over a cannibal.
You're right. They seemed all nice and friendly but when pushed over the edge they went with basic instinct and shoved humanity out the door. To them meat was meat.
Brenda had Lee and Katjaa at gunpoint and didn't kill either one of them, She even said " I don't wanna kill you Lee" , Andy and Brenda had a (Slightly) better side we never got to know and they didn'e enjoy what they were doing while Danny seemed to have no problem with it.
True, true. It's scary what people will do for survival or when they're pushed too far. They'll abandon all morals and humanity just to keep… more what's important to them alive, whether it be themselves, their family, etc.
Andy was in denial, Brenda tried to justify it but couldn't, and Danny, well, I'm a bit conflicted on him but I think he genuinely thought what they were doing was right because it was for survival. I honestly teared up when Andy was screaming at Lee as the Motor Inn group walked away, the guy was totally and completely broken.
You know TWDG is a good game when you actually get emotional over a cannibal.
Just because she didn't want to kill him doesn't mean she would have any qualms about eating freshLee cut steaks and chops if Danny had the chance to make them.
Brenda had Lee and Katjaa at gunpoint and didn't kill either one of them, She even said " I don't wanna kill you Lee" , Andy and Brenda had … morea (Slightly) better side we never got to know and they didn'e enjoy what they were doing while Danny seemed to have no problem with it.
Just because she didn't want to kill him doesn't mean she would have any qualms about eating freshLee cut steaks and chops if Danny had the chance to make them.
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He's confirmed to leave the whole season. Plus, he needs to shave dat thing, y'know?
I'm thinking there might be a war between Carver's group and Tavia's group(If they turn out to be good) and there will certainly be a lot of death this season. I agree with you about Wellington, Not sure if Wellignton will be a paradise or an empty place with no survivors, however this season ends I hope Clem doesn't end up alone. If it ends in a cliffhanger though and there is no plans to make a S3 I'll be pissed haha.
Im almost convinced at this point that Tavia's group is Carver's.
Same here, but even that kind of a fortress can still have issues too, unfortunately. Most of the time the problem that causes groups to fall is one that arises from the inside, usually conflict/disagreements between members. The ZA makes people on edge and confrontational apparently, and everyone having a weapon of some sort in their possession doesn't make the situation any better either.
Could be possible but with the "Amid the Ruins" slide Clem is surrounded by people one of which looks like Eddie from 400 days, could just be placeholders though, so I'm still not sure If it could be a different group or if it's the people amongst Carver's group and they plan to kill him and help Clem escape.
Since Bonnie is in Carver's group and she leaves with Tavia anyway many people believe that it's the same group but what if she's working as some sort of spy or something but we won't be sure until EP3 comes out can't wait!
Well we see how good of a job he did the first time. Clem is going to be the one protecting people.
Good points @Sayakamiki. The ZA brings out the worse in many people. Almost every ZA featured in entertainment i've seen ends up failing because of internal turmoil and not just from the walkers themselves.
And the comics, :P
"What if she's working as some sort of spy or something."
This is actually an interesting thought. However, there are many possibilites for Bonnie being where she is, without Tavia's and Carver's group being the same one. It could also be, that Carver just recently took over parts of Tavia's group.
I don't see this going much better than the boat plan either.
Thanks, and yep I agree. Like Jolene said in S1, "The dead don't kill their own, it's the living you've gotta be afraid of" For a crazy woman she was eerily accurate about humanity's behavior in general during the ZA. Same thing with the cop from EP1, "People will up and go mad when they think their life is over" Both were kind of foreshadowing in a way, I think.
Yes I agree with you there, they could be seeking some revenge. We can't be sure until EP3 is out though I hope TTG adds more hubs this time around so we can get to know the group a little more though that way it'll last a bit longer too.
Call me crazy, But I don't think Nate is truly a bad guy at heart he's just nuts.
Exactly my friend. That's why things end up the way they do. You see people's true colors when put in a highly stressful or desperate situation.....the ZA being a perfect scenario.
Agree with you both ! I mean some people even resort to cannibalism.
You're crazy. What? You told me to say it.
Crazy or not, he's not a pleasant guy to be around. I'd love to see him go up against Carver, but I don't think I'd ever really feel safe around him.
If Wellington is just a fool's dream then what is the silver-lining this season? There has to be something we can hope for. Or is the only thing we can hope for is Clem surviving? Is that enough for you guys? It may be the most Telltale is willing to give us but I will be hoping for a safe haven that Clem can just lie down and rest in without worrying.
I know it's insane how far people will go when pushed to the edge......
I mean I know it must be hard but... Eat people ? I think I would rather just die.
I could never be in a group of cannibals. How do you trust a cannibal, honestly? They look at you and they don't see a fellow survivor, they see steaks and chops. This plays into the everyone having weapons not helping the situation, cause I'd have to kill all of them lol.
Oh, thank you
"They see steaks and chops" Take my Like Man :P
Christa wasn't sold on it. Hell, I don't think it's possible for her to be "sold" on anything anymore. All she said was that it'll be safer there because of the cold. Kenny was talking about it like it's some kind of sanctuary from the dead.
Well said. Reminds me of the 2nd album "Killers" with Eddie and the ax in his hand lol.
Also Look at the St.John family. Everyone was expendable and they wasted no time in collecting their human groceries and showing who they really were.
I'm starting to fear this. It might end up being like Crawford or the Comics and TV Show Atlanta. I'm still hoping we'll at least meet Christa though...
Unless you were fooled like what the St.John family did in S1.
I know hard things must be done to survive, But I still don't get how they had the stomach for that I mean IMO Andy and Brenda didn't seem like they were such baaad people or anything like that.
Yep. I think the St. John family was fucked up even before the ZA, Danny especially. He seems like a sadist, wouldn't be surprised if he was the one to suggest cannibalism to Andy & Brenda in the first place. Plus he has unused dialogue that implies he's a pedo. His obsession with his rifle Charlotte is creepy too, and he did taxidermy on his mother's dead cat...
It was only 3 months into the ZA when they started cannibalizing other people, hell they had a whole field of corn and a cow, yet they had to resort to the lowest act possible. The Motor Inn group was living off of scraps.
I just kinda' thought that it was just Danny.
You're right. They seemed all nice and friendly but when pushed over the edge they went with basic instinct and shoved humanity out the door. To them meat was meat.
Not Danny though, I knew he was crazy from the moment I saw him
I just hope Clem doesn't die.
That'd be me standing over the cannibals.
I had figured that maybe Danny wasn't crazy and they just wanted you to think that. And that maybe Brenda and Andy were the real crazy ones. And... I don't know. Telltale's writing throws me through all kinds of hoops.
True, true. It's scary what people will do for survival or when they're pushed too far. They'll abandon all morals and humanity just to keep what's important to them alive, whether it be themselves, their family, etc.
Andy was in denial, Brenda tried to justify it but couldn't, and Danny, well, I'm a bit conflicted on him but I think he genuinely thought what they were doing was right because it was for survival. I honestly teared up when Andy was screaming at Lee as the Motor Inn group walked away, the guy was totally and completely broken.
You know TWDG is a good game when you actually get emotional over a cannibal.
Brenda had Lee and Katjaa at gunpoint and didn't kill either one of them, She even said " I don't wanna kill you Lee" , Andy and Brenda had a (Slightly) better side we never got to know and they didn'e enjoy what they were doing while Danny seemed to have no problem with it.
Just because she didn't want to kill him doesn't mean she would have any qualms about eating freshLee cut steaks and chops if Danny had the chance to make them.
But she didn't. We can't judge people on what could've been