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  • Well I mean she cooked and ate Mark shanks for dinner, and served them to his friends. She may not have had tenderLeen, but based on the fact that Mark wasn't their first human meal I think it's a safe bet. She may not have liked it, but she was an enabler nonetheless.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    But she didn't. We can't judge people on what could've been

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    That's why I loved Starved for Help, you see these cannibals who have nearly completely given up on their morals and humanity, and true to Telltale's morally grey style when all is said and done and you're given the chance to kill them, you're conflicted on whether or not you actually want to (well me at least), because like everybody else in the ZA they're just doing what they can to survive. They're not evil, heartless monsters without feeling and depth of emotion, no one is realistically. I've never found a game that evoked that sort of feeling from me before. It's been a year since I finished EP2 and I'm still in awe of the fantastic characterization and storytelling. OK I'll shut up about my love for Starved for Help now lol

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    Brenda had Lee and Katjaa at gunpoint and didn't kill either one of them, She even said " I don't wanna kill you Lee" , Andy and Brenda had

  • THANK YOUUU !! This is exactly how i feel and I went over this witj Eddie somewhere else. What they did was terrible but the fact that they were done out of necessity to survive makes slighly undertand their actions better

    sayakamiki posted: »

    That's why I loved Starved for Help, you see these cannibals who have nearly completely given up on their morals and humanity, and true to T

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    I honestly felt no hesitation to kill them, and no consequent remorse. As I said above, I don't trust cannibals enough to keep them alive, and as I said in another thread, they did not need to eat people. They had fresh access to dairy, and plenty of acres of corn planted. That alone could sustain them while they hunted things other than people. They obviously searched pretty far and wide, since the trap that killed Ben's teacher was nearer to the Motor Inn than the Dairy. Meanwhile the Motor Inn was surviving on apple halves and processed cheese, and they never considered cannibalism.

    sayakamiki posted: »

    That's why I loved Starved for Help, you see these cannibals who have nearly completely given up on their morals and humanity, and true to T

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    I just can't consider what they did necessity. Not while living on a farm surrounded by vegetables. If Crawford was the cannibals that would have made sense to me in terms of necessity. Not the three dairy farmers.

    Edit: I know we had a whole discussion on this before, but this is just something I completely disagree with.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    THANK YOUUU !! This is exactly how i feel and I went over this witj Eddie somewhere else. What they did was terrible but the fact that they were done out of necessity to survive makes slighly undertand their actions better

  • I killed them too but not because I didn't somewhat understand their actions, I did it because they were a risk

    I honestly felt no hesitation to kill them, and no consequent remorse. As I said above, I don't trust cannibals enough to keep them alive, a

  • They were definitely a risk. No way could I have, in good conscience, left them alive.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    I killed them too but not because I didn't somewhat understand their actions, I did it because they were a risk

  • Exactly @Eddie_Maiden. They had other food sources and yet they still resorted to eating human meat. To me there was no excuse. They knew what they were doing from the very beginning.

    I honestly felt no hesitation to kill them, and no consequent remorse. As I said above, I don't trust cannibals enough to keep them alive, a

  • Very well said @Sayakamiki. There was no clear definition of right and wrong but rather all grey area so it gave us plenty of think about well after the game was over. I was also incredibly impressed with the intellectual depth to which TTG put forth in the character development and storytelling (hence their company name).

    sayakamiki posted: »

    That's why I loved Starved for Help, you see these cannibals who have nearly completely given up on their morals and humanity, and true to T

  • The mistake people make when discussing the St. Johns is getting into details. "They lived in a farm" "They had enough food" "They had a cow". Whether we find it atrocious or not small details are not gonna change the fact that they were done for survival.

    Very well said @Sayakamiki. There was no clear definition of right and wrong but rather all grey area so it gave us plenty of think about we

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    Yeah, I respect that and I see what you mean, they didn't have to resort to cannibalism. It was only 3 months after the ZA, surely they hadn't gotten that desperate yet. It could've definitely been worse for them. Plus they have dairy and corn, a renewable source of food that I'm sure a lot of survivors would kill to get their hands on.

    I honestly felt no hesitation to kill them, and no consequent remorse. As I said above, I don't trust cannibals enough to keep them alive, a

  • I agree with that @SaltLick305. Definitely done for survival but perhaps as a supplement to their current surplus of food. It's warped logic on their part but I totally understand your point of view.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    The mistake people make when discussing the St. Johns is getting into details. "They lived in a farm" "They had enough food" "They had a cow

  • Exactly ! What they did was sick, Hell you have my permission to call them psychopaths but I still Understand their actions more than Carver's and even Stranger's to a point. Carver dors fucked up things for an obsession with a child he doesn't even know if its his and his "feelings" towards Rebecca. Stranger caused the death of a couple of people because of some crazy revenge plan he had in mind, So yeah I understand the St.Johns more than those two.

    I agree with that @SaltLick305. Definitely done for survival but perhaps as a supplement to their current surplus of food. It's warped logic on their part but I totally understand your point of view.

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    Oh yeah, I forgot, they also had the bandits to deal with, the St. John's were bargaining with them. Meat in exchange for the bandits leaving them and the farm alone, I think it was.

    So, on top of feeding themselves they also had to deal with keeping the bandits off their back by supplying them with food. I think that might've been why they resorted to cannibalism so early into the ZA. Never thought I'd be trying to make sense of cannibals... you can't really make sense out of it though, I wouldn't have gone as far as cannibalism even if bandits were breathing down my neck.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    The mistake people make when discussing the St. Johns is getting into details. "They lived in a farm" "They had enough food" "They had a cow

  • Neither did I but like Kenny said, Everyday is a school day.

    sayakamiki posted: »

    Oh yeah, I forgot, they also had the bandits to deal with, the St. John's were bargaining with them. Meat in exchange for the bandits leavin

  • You're right @Sayakamiki. I forgot about the bandits. Still they were psychopaths as SaltLick pointed out. We'll probably never understand their rationale for cannibalism or heck anyone who does that.

    I wouldn't have done it either. I would rather starve than eat another human being.

    sayakamiki posted: »

    Oh yeah, I forgot, they also had the bandits to deal with, the St. John's were bargaining with them. Meat in exchange for the bandits leavin

  • You wanna know my reasoning for this ? In the ZA you can't try to figure out who did more fucked up things like in real life you have to measure it by the reasons those people had to do these terrible things. And I personally Understand survival more than a sexual obsession and a shitty revenge plan.

    You're right @Sayakamiki. I forgot about the bandits. Still they were psychopaths as SaltLick pointed out. We'll probably never understand t

  • Yeah, the guilt of having eaten someone for my own survival would be too much for me to bear. Let alone killing people on a regular basis and eating them too. When things sink so low that human meat is your only food source, I'd rather die from starvation at that point.

    You're right @Sayakamiki. I forgot about the bandits. Still they were psychopaths as SaltLick pointed out. We'll probably never understand t

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    I agree, but I think Carver's issue isn't a sexual obsession but more of a paternal one. Or maybe he's a complete control freak who can't stand the idea of people going astray from him and his group, and so tracked them down for what he thinks is their own good. I find it hard to believe that one person would go to such lengths and be so persistently determined to find a baby that might not even be theirs, there has to be other reasons than that. Though I think the baby is one of his reasons for tracking them, I don't think it's the full reason entirely.

    I don't know enough about his character yet to really make a proper judgement on him, but that's what I've gotten from him so far. I could be completely wrong, maybe all he does care about is the baby.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    You wanna know my reasoning for this ? In the ZA you can't try to figure out who did more fucked up things like in real life you have to mea

  • Rebecca is his goal too, You can see he feels like she belond to him and he's doing some crazy things just to get to her.

    sayakamiki posted: »

    I agree, but I think Carver's issue isn't a sexual obsession but more of a paternal one. Or maybe he's a complete control freak who can't st

  • Winter time north of Georgia should be a time to clean up and remove a lot of walkers. A time to shift the odds in favor of the living. When the temperature drops below freezing the walkers should freeze solid or become greatly incapacitated. The water in the brain should cause the skull to crack and burst from the pressure of the expanding ice crystals. If that is the case busting them in the head with a sledge hammer or pick would shatter them like a block of ice. The only thing you would have to worry about until the Spring thaw is the living. What are your thoughts?

  • God knows you're right man !

  • Michelle from All That Remains begs to differ...

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    That's a nice huh.... Wait what is that again ? Ha nah sounds like you think by then people should be more afraid of the living but there is a problem, It should ALWAYS be like that.

    twobears posted: »

    Winter time north of Georgia should be a time to clean up and remove a lot of walkers. A time to shift the odds in favor of the living. When

  • Danny was attracted to "Charlotte"... his damn hunting rifle. The one he uses to kill Jolene. And tries to use on Lee.

    I had figured that maybe Danny wasn't crazy and they just wanted you to think that. And that maybe Brenda and Andy were the real crazy ones. And... I don't know. Telltale's writing throws me through all kinds of hoops.

  • Come on we all know Danny was the worst lol

    I had figured that maybe Danny wasn't crazy and they just wanted you to think that. And that maybe Brenda and Andy were the real crazy ones. And... I don't know. Telltale's writing throws me through all kinds of hoops.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they never actually get to Wellington. Seriously, that's a long frigging trek from where they are. I don't think they'll reach there before the bad weather starts to set in and by then they may have second thoughts about traveling to a place that's mostly surrounded by water.

    In the event they do get there, no, I don't think it'll be a paradise of any sort. It might be a good way to get away from Walkers but not people, who are a decidedly bigger threat IMO.

  • What do you think would be worst, That or getting there and finding nothin' ? I can't decide.

    Night_Owl posted: »

    I wouldn't be surprised if they never actually get to Wellington. Seriously, that's a long frigging trek from where they are. I don't think

  • If there's nothing they can still possibly make something of the area themselves. But we already know a lot of people are making their way there, so much like the boat idea it'd still be a "different place, same shit" situation. I have a feeling the main moral of the season is going to be that home is where the heart is. The heart in this case being family. It doesn't matter where you are so long as you have people you care for and who care for you in return.

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    What do you think would be worst, That or getting there and finding nothin' ? I can't decide.

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    Wellington will be all rainbows and sunshine lee will be waiting called no going back because once get there find the cure and never have to go back to that awful zombie apocalypse again the DLC will just be Clem playing in the playground having fun and eating pizza and ice cream.

    I wish all know what's going happen writers said like give us hope then rip the carpet from underneath us. Hope to me sounds like wellington perfect place to really mess with our head's the final chapter name scares me NO GOING BACK!! might mean once clem enters be last time we see her. Admit haven't played ep 2 yet waiting for vita version so can't really expand my comment to depth I want anyway brilliant thread Saltlick.

  • I want to believe it will be a safe haven and they will all be safe . However I think it will be a good place at all, I think it might actually be a worse place for them because there will more people which will equals more walkers

  • Thank you Mark ! I would love to say they will get to Wellington and It'll be smiles and fun time but come on, Do any of us actually think that's going to happen ?

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Wellington will be all rainbows and sunshine lee will be waiting called no going back because once get there find the cure and never have to

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    No thank you Saltlick keep seeing brilliant threads by you I get really frustrated as haven't played episode 2 so can't comment on them but temptation was to strong so commented with limited knowledge on this one lol.

    Biggest twist for me they could possible do is happy ending but never know i think maybe 0.0000000000000000001% chance of wellington being good and that's being really optimistic

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    Thank you Mark ! I would love to say they will get to Wellington and It'll be smiles and fun time but come on, Do any of us actually think that's going to happen ?

  • That would be the biggest twist Indeed lol, Nobody expects Wellington to be a Nice place and No... You're Brilliant !

    Markd4547 posted: »

    No thank you Saltlick keep seeing brilliant threads by you I get really frustrated as haven't played episode 2 so can't comment on them but

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    SaltLick305 posted: »

    That would be the biggest twist Indeed lol, Nobody expects Wellington to be a Nice place and No... You're Brilliant !

  • Its okay to be Awesome... I know what the feels like :P Seriously though I enjoy your Top 10 Threads.

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    Thanks Saltlick think your to famous to talk to me now with all your 34 thumbs and over threads lol seriously i don't even need to compliment you your threads speak for themselves thanks bro very proud of my lists as my first thread on gaming top 10 characters got 19 thumbs down so taught maybe try something else but I refused and next threads I did done alright lol some moments in gaming really want to share and have passionate to write about even if takes 3 hours to write. Anyway thanks bro keep up the good work

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    Its okay to be Awesome... I know what the feels like :P Seriously though I enjoy your Top 10 Threads.

  • Cause You're a great Guy around here Man. Everytime I see your threads I like it and Try to participate if I have any knowledge on the subject, Keep it up you are one of the people I most enjoy talkin' to.

    Markd4547 posted: »

    Thanks Saltlick think your to famous to talk to me now with all your 34 thumbs and over threads lol seriously i don't even need to complimen

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    I have read the twd comics. And the cold and winter does actually make the walkers a lot slower and easier to deal with. So we know for sure that that part is not a pipe dream.

    As for the rest. fresh water, lots of food, all of that, Wellington's never ever been mentioned in the comics so......use your imagination I guess.

  • Same here bro actually really appreciate that comment thank you

    SaltLick305 posted: »

    Cause You're a great Guy around here Man. Everytime I see your threads I like it and Try to participate if I have any knowledge on the subject, Keep it up you are one of the people I most enjoy talkin' to.

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