Carlos' trust
At the end of episode one he clearly states he doesn't trust us. Like, literally "You are not to be trusted."
A mere 36 or so hours later he trusts us with his daughter. Well alright, lets view what happened in those 36 hours since he used those words that could justify him trusting us shall we?
We left with Nick and Pete to go to the stream.
No one ever comes back.
Alvin and Luke go to the stream.
Neither comes back.
We, alone, show up to the cabin. So Carlos' reaction is watch Sarah we are going to go look for Luke and Alvin.
Some might argue that leaving Sarah with Clementine was out of necessity, but if 4 people went missing and this lone girl returned, the same lone girl you didn't trust and could potentially be working with Carver, how exactly is that the final decision?
I just don't get why they would set such dark, untrusted tones and then whisk them away with no reason to support their disappearance.
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He was all in shock and shaken like everyone else and the only person there was Clementine. He said that in first episode because he had bad experience before (Carver) and he wants to shield his daughter from everyone, even if they are not a threat at all.
Good point.
''You are not to be trusted'' and ''Stay away from my daughter'' just until i have to leave the Cabin.
I thought the "not to be trusted" was in regards to his daughter (since she was the main subject of discussion). And now that we know what Carver's group is like, I don't think he really considered her a part of that group. But given the way people were disappearing, it would've made more sense to insist she come with him and Rebecca stay behind (though that may have been difficult).
The only reason he does it is because he feels he has no other option.
Also, he forgave Clem in my play through, so it kinda made sense for me.
Same in my play through.
He still says stay away from my daughter whether you apologize or not, doesn't he?
If so then that still symbolizes a lack of trust.
If not then I'm sorry, I guess I am remembering incorrectly.
No. If you apologize he still looks over his shoulder at you before he leaves but he doesn't say anything.
Bump. Any other points to be made?
I think that after realizing Clementine was telling the Truth and he had the time to swallow it all he came to accept Clementine as part of the group, He starts to call her "Clem", He tasked her with responsabilities like takin' care of Sarah and gathering info from Kenny's group and last but no least, He saved her life.
He finally woke up i guess !
Most of that was after the completely information lacking 5 day skip (the ugliest part of the season imho). I just don't see how after he distrusts her so much, and the four, count em, four, group members go missing either with or in pursuit of this kid, that he could leave his 'precious' child in this kids hand. In the zombie apocalypse you spot the worst and predict the worst. 4 people going missing, 2 of them for an entire day and two of them for a long while (assuming considering Rebecca's haste and temper), directly after a little girl shows up looking for help would spur disastrous thoughts. If anything Carlos would have been blaming her, not asking her to watch his daughter.
All my opinion, of course.
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Carlos probably had a 'who do you sit with' moment. Leave his daughter alone in the house, or leave her with a questionable girl who displayed an ability to kill walkers.
A questionable girl, at the core of the disappearance of 4 group members, who displayed the ability to kill.
The fuck was Carlos thinking? For all he knew Clem was thinking "4 down, 3 to go, 1 about to be alone. Game time."
Well the way I saw it was this Carlos was sitting there with Rebecca waiting for Luke, Alvin, and co, but then when Clementine comes back alone and he doesn't see anyone else that causes Rebecca to panic and tell Carlos to get the guns. From that point then He could of gave Clem a gun and told her to go with Rebecca which is unlikely, He could have told Rebecca to stay back with Clem which is again unlikely because I doubt Rebecca would comply with that, He could have stayed back with Clem to watch Sarah which again I doubt he would do and that Rebecca would be very happy about, or he could have taken Sarah with him, which again if he predicted danger I doubt he would have done. So the only obvious choice at the time was just tell Clem to stay and watch Sarah, because Clem had previously shown capability of killing walkers.
Alternative he could of thought it through over night, and maybe even talked to Sarah, and she could have spoken fondly of Clem leading him to trust her more. I'm more inclined to believe my first option though.
I just don't see it. He would have no reason to believe in clem, and in fact 4 reasons to doubt her loyalty. You said he wouldn't risk taking Sarah for fear of danger, but from all accounts aside from our perspective as Clementine he was leaving Sarah with the danger.
I highly doubt he thought Clem was danger, from the dialogue we got from him. He told her he didn't trust her which could imply he thinks she's dangerous,but at the same time can imply that he just thinks she may be lying about something, to give a real life example if someone lies to me or I think they lied to me and I tell them I don't trust them, does that mean I think they're dangerous 99% of the time no and in this situation I doubt he was thinking she was dangerous.
The other bit of dialogue is that he tells Clem to stay away from his daughter, but due to the dialogue given by Clem or could be given by Clem it would seem he wants Clem to stay away from his daughter in order to prevent her from being perverted by the outside world and the horrors of it. So again I don't see where he would think she's dangerous.
Now with this combined, plus the fact that he still sees Clem as just a child at times which is evident due to dialogue throughout the episode such as when Luke wants to take Clem to go ahead on the bridge or when they're all outside fighting the zombies. Because of this I do feel he though it would be the safest option for everyone to leave Clem to watch Sarah at the house.
I don't see how she couldn't be seen as a danger. To reiterate again, 4 people went missing with her/after her. 4 people. If Carlos didn't come to this conclusion when she walked in alone... well that's insane.