Sarah's questionable skills with a firearm
The scene where Clementine tries to give Sarah a tutorial in how to use a gun was awfully ominous, don't you think? Despite Clem instructing Sarah not to treat it as a toy, that's almost exactly what she ends up doing.
We can probably expect Sarah's irresponsible attitude concerning firearms to come into play in a later episode. This would be a nasty little surprise, as everyone's been expecting NICK to turn into the official "Ben" of season 2.
Maybe Sarah accidentally shoots someone dead. Carlos? Nick? Alvin? Luke? Kenny? Sarita? If Sarah were to kill Sarita, I doubt I'd be willing to get in Kenny's way if he wanted payback.
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Yeah, I was under the impression that she wasn't taking Clem very seriously. She had the "CALL OF DUTY!" attitude. I can definitely foresee her screwing up big time if she ever gets a gun again, or still has the one she found.
I'd sit Kenny's ass down.
Wonder what kind of implications it could have if she shot someone near and dear to Carver?
I really hope teaching her dosnt turn her into a fantastic shot or anything; she didnt even fire a bullet!
I think teaching her will have no effect, she still ends up waving it around whatever you say to her
She's inexperienced: gun safety always says to NEVER point a gun at someone even if it is empty. Sarah probably hasn't taken gun safety, so she doesn't know the seriousness of a gun, even when empty.
She probably hasn't checked the chamber for a bullet as well.
Hopefully since I refused to give her tips she won't try to be a hero.
Or maybe she will try to be a hero, just to show you, that she deserves to learn how to use a gun, and be like everyone else.
Maybe or maybe Carlos ends up dead and Sarah wants revenge and gets over that childish attitude, maybe she'll kill Carver.
As someone who was taught basic gun safety/ usage at the age of 8, Clementine gave Sarah a pretty lousy guide on using a gun. No safety rules, no mention if the actual safety itself, she didn't even mention how to line up sights.
Well it was like a 45 second lesson, so I didn't really expect much.
Was it even that long? Haha
It was shorter than 4.5 seconds. Not really but it was too short.
I think Carlos is trying to shelter her too much and doesn't give her enough credit. She clearly knows more than he thinks/will allow her to know. It's 2 years into the apocalypse. Clearly there not going to just go away so Carlos really should have prepared her for this.
For this reason I was completely honest with her about the situation and taught her how to use a gun. Even showed her the dog bite in ep 1. Even if she's not as Mature as Clem, I think she means well and I also figured it would be better that she at least had some knowledge of how to use a gun JUST IN CASE. She can't be much worse than Nick with a gun really... and I doubt she's going to do a Lily and if someone's in trouble, and their gun is on the floor, she MAY be able to help.
Also interesting to note, in Episode 1 I found her quite creepy with the wanting to be best friends with a stranger and the "pinky promise is FOREVER" but if you take the blame for Sarah's photo, it says she will remember that and automatically corrects Carlos (saying it was her idea or that she took the photo if you refused to take it.) So I think there actually may be a benefit to being Sarah's friend...(You stick up for her and she'll stick up for you.)
Clem just taught Sarah to use a gun the same way that Lee taught her how to use a gun. Now that wouldn't be a problem if Sarah were like Clem, but she isn't.
Clem was initially scared and reluctant to learn how to shoot a gun. She saw Lilly snap and kill Carley/Doug with a gun. She knew that Katjaa snapped and killed herself with a gun. She's been held at gunpoint herself at the motor inn. She was fully aware of how dangerous guns can be and she saw that good people can be taken away in the blink of an eye as soon as that trigger is pulled. That's why Lee didn't have to caution her very much when he taught her. In fact, he had to ease her worries by telling her "It's just a thing."
Sarah, on the other hand, probably hasn't seen very much gun violence at all, because of Carlos sheltering her. So she's handles the gun like it's a plaything. And that can be very, very dangerous. Hopefully what happened at the end of the episode gives her a bit more pause the next time she picks up a gun.
Well after you teach her how to use the gun, the indication on the screen says "You taught Sarah how to protect herself". So with this I'm thinking teaching her is a good thing. Maybe she will get into some trouble, and she'll be on her own, and you showing her how to use will actually help her.
If she can be a hero and save the day great. I just didn't want to give her a few pointers and have her become overconfident and do something dumb.
I didn't show her how to use the gun either, so I totally agree with you. But nobody knows what Telltale have planned, so we don't know, if it was a good or a bad choice
Yeah it's hard to tell this season if the choices we make will be positive or negative. The watch and water bottle come to mind. But according to Walter "As long as we keep our wits about us we can always make the right decision." To which I replied "It's never that easy."
Kenny's pay back would be pretty funny. "How into flying fuck this keep happening to me?"
Do we wanna help her?
I imagine her to shoot a Walker and end up killing it. And then Carlos will be like, "Where did you learn to use a gun!?" And then she'll be like, "Clementine taught me, Dad!" And then-Carlos just being Carlos-he'll be angry at Clem.
Oh it would be so ironic if she accidentally shot Nick, saddening because i like Nickie, but very ironic at the same time.
...Clementine's only 11. When given a loaded gun, she misses quite a few shots. And after the... "Pitstop Incident", Christa probably wouldn't let her carry one anymore, so extra practice would've been out of the question.
There's an option where that when you choose not to say anything at that part. Sarah points the gun at her head, maybe a signal?
This is why I chose not to instruct Sarah on how to use a firearm. I didn't feel she was ready, and I feel that I was proven right when she begins waving the gun around and points it directly in Clem's face. Ammo or not, that is a HUGE no-no. Not even NICK is that careless with a gun. I mean, what if there had been a bullet in that gun? After everything Lee went through for Clem, everything Christa went through for her, she would have died in that room because Sarah thought a gun was a toy. She is most definitely not ready for a gun, in my mind.
I didn't teach her how to use it because while yes it's possible she may now be able to defend herself, it's just as likely that she can kill an innocent person. And as far as my Clem is concerned, she doesn't know Sarah well enough to make that call. Not to mention that what happened with Omid is still fresh in her memory.
And if we combine teaching her how to shoot with the vague warnings her father gives her, that just feels like a recipe for disaster. Carlos warns her that "these are bad people who will say and do anything to hurt us". He makes no effort to explain the why's or how's of the situation; he just gives her a black and white perspective on things. I could see that biting the group in the ass later should they try to make more allies (basically another Nick/Matthew situation). But I'm also hoping DomeWing is right and the gunfight succeeds in making her more cautious; even though it does have the possibility of doing the reverse.
The question mark implies a want for an answer...
Well... I would think so :P
Imagine if Carver was torturing Carlos again and Sarah saw and had a gun at the time but Carver and Carlos' heads are so close... that would be intense if she took that shot
Could be foreshadowing...
1st rule of gun safety: do not ever point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
But in all seriousness (that was serious, but relatively unrelated), I never taught her because I thought she'd blab to Carlos and he'd have a hissyfit.
It sounds like a rhetorical question.
Oh, well it wasn't
Quite true. The first step to firearm training is proper respect for the firearm as a weapon that is designed to kill. It's always easier to train someone who is afraid of the weapon, than someone who thinks it's harmless. The mentality the I was taught with is to never point a gun at something or someone you aren't willing to lose. You have to be mature enough to realize that anyone or anything in the path of your bullet is going to get fucked up.
Sarah...isn't quite there yet. I just hope Carlos doesn't find out that Clem taught her.
Gosh Viva do you think he might commit child murder???
I'd like Carlos to talk to her about it, but I hoped that if I could explain that guns were dangerous early on, it'd help when she would have to inevitably handle one later. And as someone who's seen grown men absentmindedly turn around pointing a firearm, I think it was good that she acted frightened at Clem's reaction to it instead of trying to play it off as a joke.
Another friendly fire accident would be a pretty terrible scenario, but I wouldn't let someone like Kenny attack the kid because of it...
He might.
Don't evolve on me....
He might take out his anger on the rest of the cabin group, though. Reduced rations and water, the more degrading/dangerous jobs, etc.
No no no I think he might draw Sarah's blood and cause her bodily harm, pain and death.
How does this make you feel?
"Disturbed"
Stupid phone. Don't mind this.
Which makes it funny how she seems to be a better shot than Lee in Season 1 Episode 4 when she manages to shoot a Walker that has Molly in its grasp.