If you pay attention, the walker was grabbing someone's hand when Mike came in and grabbed it by the throat.
He's holding it so the other person can escape or finish it while it's immobilized.
It seems that way. He's not seen standing up with the others shooting the walkers. I guess it makes sense. He has had a kid before with Katjaa, so he has experience dealing with someone giving birth. Doesn't seem likely that anyone else of the group would have that kind of experience.
That part where Jane is up against those walkers looks like it is in the house Jane and Clem were looking at. There is also a walker crawling away from her and towards another direction so maybe she is defending Sarah and Clem
I'm guessing it's Rebecca going into labor leaning on Bonnie or Jane, with Kenny behind them. You can see walkers about to bust through the fence on the left side; I'm guessing they're trying to get to an enclosed space for Rebecca to have the baby, or they're trying to get to the rest of the group, all before the big fight scene.
I'm guessing it's Rebecca going into labor leaning on Bonnie or Jane, with Kenny behind them. You can see walkers about to bust through the … morefence on the left side; I'm guessing they're trying to get to an enclosed space for Rebecca to have the baby, or they're trying to get to the rest of the group, all before the big fight scene.
I've always assumed Luke could even suggest leaving Kenny behind because he'd only known Kenny for a few days. But that never brought me any comfort, especially considering he'd only known Clem for a few more days than that. What was to keep him from leaving her behind too?
Obviously, Luke keeps -- for lack of a better word -- picking on Kenny, suggesting they break away from Kenny because he might hinder their survival efforts. Conversely, Luke never suggests they leave behind even more obvious hinderances, like Rebecca. Why doesn't he ever say, "Let's leave Rebecca. Then, Carver won't even chase us. Problem solved."? Because Luke knows Rebecca and considers her family and just couldn't leave her behind.
Therefore, he knows how it feels to need to stick with your family even when they are hinderances. Yet, he has the nerve to suggest to Clem that she leave her family behind. He suggests it to her TWICE, if this trailer is showing what I think it is. Yes, LUKE may have only known Kenny a few days but he understands that Clem has known him a long time. He just doesn't seem to understand that it would be just as hard for Clem to leave Kenny as it would be for him to leave Rebecca or Nick or whoever. This shows a lack of empathy, and a lack of empathy shows sociopathy.
Yes, I am getting distinct sociopath vibes from Luke. But only since ep 3. At the end of ep 2, I was 100% on board the Love Luke bandwagon. But then, ep 3 happened, and I started to get scared, scared that Luke had fooled me with his buckets of charisma and big sad eyes and "you don't kill dogs" line. Maybe, I thought in horror, Luke was just not who he seemed to be.
But I was hoping very hard that ep 4 would prove me wrong, show that Luke is a genuinely good person, and rationally explain all the shady things he's done. I'm still holding out hope, holding out with all my might. But this trailer? Not helping. And that's the only reason I'm disappointed in it. It makes it look like, at best, Luke will continue being ambiguous, and at worst, he'll come out of the closet as a sociopath.
Nevertheless, I'm still praying the trailer was misleading in this regard, and maybe this episode will redeem Luke. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
It's not an obsession, it's survival like Luke said. Before in Episode 3 everybody was pushing about leaving that night from Carver's commun… moreity when he wanted to wait until they were rested up, and when put in a corner on it, it's only then it brought up the suggestion of leaving Kenny [who at the time still wasn't conscious and looked as though he might not make it.]
Now we have Episode 4 where Kenny is losing it over Sarita's death and wanting to give up on living, and something like that could put a whole group in danger when you add walkers to that. So depending on what happens with Kenny's temper and if he loses the will to live, it'd make sense if Luke is getting worried about his own survival and the others.
Also got to remember Luke's only known Kenny for a few days and they've not had much time to talk, so a decision to split from him might not be that difficult a thing to decide, maybe.
The trailer makes it seem like Kenny's giving up but in S1E5 Kenny made a speech about not giving up on the people you care about in reference to katjaa when she shot herself, he wouldn't give up on the group especially not clem
I really like what you said in this post, especially about Luke choosing what's safest for HIM. It makes a lot of sense, especially with the examples you gave. Luke may not be a violent maniac, but he may still be cold as ice.
In fact, I've been racking my brain about why Luke keeps Clem around if it's not because he simply cares deeply about living human beings. And it's quite possibly NOT that he cares about human beings, seeing as he's so casually dismissive of other living human beings like Kenny and Walter. But when seeing Luke as primarily concerned with his own safety, it's easy to imagine that he keeps Clem around because he saw how useful she could be to him. He himself said "She's a valuable little girl. If she can sew up her own arm, she's fit to cross a bridge."
I like the idea that Luke and Kenny are not polar opposites, but "two sides of the same coin," as you said, and neither is safe for Clementine.
As for Luke seeing himself as a hero, I've never been fond of that idea. It just simply sounds delusional, and Luke, whether he's good or bad, just doesn't seem like the type to have delusions of grandeur (Kenny, on the other hand...). So I still don't really know how to explain his unwillingness to kill Carver, unless he was putting on a show for the others.
Anyway, this is all well and good assuming Luke isn't such a great person, but I'm still holding out hope that he is.
I actually wrote something about Luke after watching the trailer. He seems like the type who cares more about his own safety (and the group's) and acting the hero tbh.
The part where Rebecca is having the baby looks fecking awsome, everyone else defending while she screems like a banshee, gona be fun...
… moreI think ken y is really gonna loose it this ep and we are going to be tested big time, while im saying ill side with kenny no matter what, im guessing ill be tested to the limit..
The strange character looks interesting, and the glasses thing, I dont think Sarah will die this ep tho..
Hold in there kenny old pall
I don't think he would ever kill himself but I think he'll just be.. not as motivated to keep going. He would still fight to protect others but he wouldn't mind if he died either.
They better not. That would be so lazy of TellTale.
Although, if they did that, then I can make it canon in my head that Nick survived, just like Kenny did at the end of Season 1.
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Clementine aimed at the wall isntead of shooting Lee, and another survivor came around with an antidote, and he foudn everybody back at Parker's Run somehow.
Shit like that. I saw "Lee confirmed' and people implying that Clem never really shot Lee.
The responses are pretty funny.
"Not all urbans look alike. y u b racist."
Yeah and his nature is bold because it ups defense which led him to survive the critical hit from Carver's fury attack. It also decreases a… morettack which is why gets beat up so damn much! Punched by Larry, shot in the stomach by Andy, beat up by Lee, beat up by old ass cancer patients, and now beat up by Carver. DAYUM!
I hope there's a melancholic scene where are the characters are remembering the people they've lost since the outbreak started and sort of comforting each other.
Clem lost her parents, Lee, Omid , Christa.
Kenny lost Katjaa, Duck , Sarita.
Luke lost most of the cabin group,his childhood friend Nick [determinantly],he also mentions losing his parents.
Nick himself lost Pete and his mom.
Rebecca lost Alvin, Sarah just lost her dad and is all alone now.
Jane and Mike seem to have lost everyone since they're loners.
They all need to do one big group hug! [yeah right, that would never happen, lol]
"Connecting with people is so important." It sucks that it seems that they're starting to turn on each other instead of appreciating what they have now.
If there's a badass Kenny scene of him fighting a horde like that Mike screenshot indicates, I hope his theme from No Time Left gets reused. It was so epic.
That was a very interesting trailer, I noticed a few things with things with it....
At 0:35 seconds in whiles Jane is talking to Clem she says " if things start heading south, don't let them drag you down with them". This sounds almost like shes talking from experience, I have a feeling we'll defo get more character development from Jane.
Another thing that was interesting is that during/after shes talking about how to leave them behind if they are dragging you down, don't let them get in your way kinda thing, it shows a statue of a older man with what looks like a bread(?) carrying another person, I feel like its symbolizing Kenny and the 'moral' thing to do as its also written "Fallen but never forsaken" which basically means even thought they are weak/down/dying it does not necessarily mean they are down and out for the count, they can still make an impact.
I think "the moral thing to do" and "survival instinct" Will clash massively next episode. I feel questions like these may come up
"should we kill Sarita?", "Should we look for Sara?" "Should we kill Kenny/let him die?" "Should we kill Rebbecca or her baby, or both?"
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Did anyone notice in the trailer, that the 'Stranger (Dude with glasses)' has a leg brace? It's at the 1:21 mark.
How? I know where you've seen the name (we can't talk about it on here), but why do you think that's them?
Wait, is Kenny with Rebecca when she's given birth? (The Jeans make me think that :P)
The Walker's probably doing a poor job at being a tour guide which is making Mike mad to the point that he just wants to choke it.
No Nick
Ticket booth anyone? >:D
It seems that way. He's not seen standing up with the others shooting the walkers. I guess it makes sense. He has had a kid before with Katjaa, so he has experience dealing with someone giving birth. Doesn't seem likely that anyone else of the group would have that kind of experience.
I bet he won't even be in ep4 and they'll just say he got lost to the herd in ep3.
this trailer moved me
It's weird that their faces are clear of walker blood and yet Kenny still has a bloody lip!
People who have cuts and bruises on their face didn't put the zombie blood on their face because they might get infected.
Who are those people at 1:07? It's Clem and...? Looks like someone is hurt (or going into labor if its Rebecca) and is leaning on another person.
They better not. That would be so lazy of TellTale.
Although, if they did that, then I can make it canon in my head that Nick survived, just like Kenny did at the end of Season 1.
Can't say I'll miss her. But that's just me.
Yeah it looked like one of the trailers in the trailer park.
I'm guessing it's Rebecca going into labor leaning on Bonnie or Jane, with Kenny behind them. You can see walkers about to bust through the fence on the left side; I'm guessing they're trying to get to an enclosed space for Rebecca to have the baby, or they're trying to get to the rest of the group, all before the big fight scene.
That definitely looks like Bonnie holding Rebecca to me.
I've always assumed Luke could even suggest leaving Kenny behind because he'd only known Kenny for a few days. But that never brought me any comfort, especially considering he'd only known Clem for a few more days than that. What was to keep him from leaving her behind too?
Obviously, Luke keeps -- for lack of a better word -- picking on Kenny, suggesting they break away from Kenny because he might hinder their survival efforts. Conversely, Luke never suggests they leave behind even more obvious hinderances, like Rebecca. Why doesn't he ever say, "Let's leave Rebecca. Then, Carver won't even chase us. Problem solved."? Because Luke knows Rebecca and considers her family and just couldn't leave her behind.
Therefore, he knows how it feels to need to stick with your family even when they are hinderances. Yet, he has the nerve to suggest to Clem that she leave her family behind. He suggests it to her TWICE, if this trailer is showing what I think it is. Yes, LUKE may have only known Kenny a few days but he understands that Clem has known him a long time. He just doesn't seem to understand that it would be just as hard for Clem to leave Kenny as it would be for him to leave Rebecca or Nick or whoever. This shows a lack of empathy, and a lack of empathy shows sociopathy.
Yes, I am getting distinct sociopath vibes from Luke. But only since ep 3. At the end of ep 2, I was 100% on board the Love Luke bandwagon. But then, ep 3 happened, and I started to get scared, scared that Luke had fooled me with his buckets of charisma and big sad eyes and "you don't kill dogs" line. Maybe, I thought in horror, Luke was just not who he seemed to be.
But I was hoping very hard that ep 4 would prove me wrong, show that Luke is a genuinely good person, and rationally explain all the shady things he's done. I'm still holding out hope, holding out with all my might. But this trailer? Not helping. And that's the only reason I'm disappointed in it. It makes it look like, at best, Luke will continue being ambiguous, and at worst, he'll come out of the closet as a sociopath.
Nevertheless, I'm still praying the trailer was misleading in this regard, and maybe this episode will redeem Luke. It ain't over till the fat lady sings.
I'm worried that Kenny could commit suicide in this episode... What do you think?
The trailer makes it seem like Kenny's giving up but in S1E5 Kenny made a speech about not giving up on the people you care about in reference to katjaa when she shot herself, he wouldn't give up on the group especially not clem
I really like what you said in this post, especially about Luke choosing what's safest for HIM. It makes a lot of sense, especially with the examples you gave. Luke may not be a violent maniac, but he may still be cold as ice.
In fact, I've been racking my brain about why Luke keeps Clem around if it's not because he simply cares deeply about living human beings. And it's quite possibly NOT that he cares about human beings, seeing as he's so casually dismissive of other living human beings like Kenny and Walter. But when seeing Luke as primarily concerned with his own safety, it's easy to imagine that he keeps Clem around because he saw how useful she could be to him. He himself said "She's a valuable little girl. If she can sew up her own arm, she's fit to cross a bridge."
I like the idea that Luke and Kenny are not polar opposites, but "two sides of the same coin," as you said, and neither is safe for Clementine.
As for Luke seeing himself as a hero, I've never been fond of that idea. It just simply sounds delusional, and Luke, whether he's good or bad, just doesn't seem like the type to have delusions of grandeur (Kenny, on the other hand...). So I still don't really know how to explain his unwillingness to kill Carver, unless he was putting on a show for the others.
Anyway, this is all well and good assuming Luke isn't such a great person, but I'm still holding out hope that he is.
I knew it
I agree with @nickybello Nothing compared to this:
kenny actually isn't defending anything....
I don't think he would ever kill himself but I think he'll just be.. not as motivated to keep going. He would still fight to protect others but he wouldn't mind if he died either.
But where the hell is snowing? Is it coming a timeskip?
Telltale don't add determinant characters to their trailers.
I don't know, last season in episode 4, it showed Kenny,Christa,and Lee in a sewer system, but it was just Lee
Yes but clearly everyone's had time to wash their faces and clothes. Hence he could easily have cleaned his lip.
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Clementine aimed at the wall isntead of shooting Lee, and another survivor came around with an antidote, and he foudn everybody back at Parker's Run somehow.
In may gameplay, He got shot in the stomach, and beat up carver.
Not much beatings for me
s2 still BADASS.
Mike reminds me of Lee I dunno why ;s
I hope there's a melancholic scene where are the characters are remembering the people they've lost since the outbreak started and sort of comforting each other.
Clem lost her parents, Lee, Omid , Christa.
Kenny lost Katjaa, Duck , Sarita.
Luke lost most of the cabin group,his childhood friend Nick [determinantly],he also mentions losing his parents.
Nick himself lost Pete and his mom.
Rebecca lost Alvin, Sarah just lost her dad and is all alone now.
Jane and Mike seem to have lost everyone since they're loners.
They all need to do one big group hug! [yeah right, that would never happen, lol]
"Connecting with people is so important." It sucks that it seems that they're starting to turn on each other instead of appreciating what they have now.
They're close to winter. Christa mentions it was going to start snowing soon at the prologue in All That Remains when Clem says she's feeling cold.
If there's a badass Kenny scene of him fighting a horde like that Mike screenshot indicates, I hope his theme from No Time Left gets reused. It was so epic.
Ben version
Christa version
That was a very interesting trailer, I noticed a few things with things with it....
At 0:35 seconds in whiles Jane is talking to Clem she says " if things start heading south, don't let them drag you down with them". This sounds almost like shes talking from experience, I have a feeling we'll defo get more character development from Jane.
Another thing that was interesting is that during/after shes talking about how to leave them behind if they are dragging you down, don't let them get in your way kinda thing, it shows a statue of a older man with what looks like a bread(?) carrying another person, I feel like its symbolizing Kenny and the 'moral' thing to do as its also written "Fallen but never forsaken" which basically means even thought they are weak/down/dying it does not necessarily mean they are down and out for the count, they can still make an impact.
I think "the moral thing to do" and "survival instinct" Will clash massively next episode. I feel questions like these may come up
"should we kill Sarita?", "Should we look for Sara?" "Should we kill Kenny/let him die?" "Should we kill Rebbecca or her baby, or both?"
And yawning a bit
DAT PLOT DOU