So... Carver really ***** her?
Carver really did rape Rebecca, huh? I mean, he says something like "Don't act like you didn't enjoy it." to her just before Kenny starts beating him which lead some people to come to that conclusion but I think this really confirms it: 
"Don't you fucking look at me like that... You wanted it just as much as I did."
This makes me feel even worse for Rebecca O.o
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I disagree with that interpretation.
Carver is a very good manipulater. That's how he was able to convince good people (like Bonnie) into working for him. My guess is he was trying to get revenge on Rebecca for wanting him dead. If the truth is what's going to be the most effective at manipulating someone, why not use that?
I think he was telling her to stop acting like she had the moral high ground in the matter, because she didn't. She did agree to their relationship. I wouldn't put it past Rebecca. She's not an evil person, but she can be pretty shitty at times (remember episode one? She wanted you to has been killed out in the woods before Carlos even checked the bite).
I don't get why people think that implies rape, in my opinion, he said it to imply the exact opposite: She chose to be with him. She wanted to be with the top survivor, someone who was tough. And she got it. She was scared when he went too far and started to lose it, and then she ran away. But he wants to remind her that she chose him. She wanted to live that life, and when she found out that she couldn't live up to it, he decided there should be no going back, she was already in too far. Rebecca stood by Carver right up until he did things that she couldn't live with, terrible things. But Carver would argue that she must have seen these things in him all along, so she has no excuse for changing her mind in his eyes. Carver is mocking her supposed "redemption" of morality, he believes that she is no less guilty of seeing the things he did and doing nothing about it before.
Not rape. Consensual sex she regretted when she realized how he truly was
I really think that we weren't supposed to think of it as rape.
People's chivalry instinct kicked in and they assumed that the 'poor female' was used by the 'mean man'.
No, I really, really don't think so. Any normal woman would hate the guts of the man who raped her and would want him dead. Rebecca didn't want Carver dead until he killed Alvin. Which is another thing. Alvin did not show hate toward Carver on a level appropriate with "you raped my wife." And if Carver had raped Rebecca, I'm sure Rebecca would have told Alvin instead of trying to keep the secret that it was Carver's baby because she feared that Alvin would "kill her" if he found out. Why would he want to kill her for being raped? No, the only thing that makes sense is that Rebecca had a consensual affair with Carver.
I disagree with that interpretation too guys...
I think carver just matipulated her into having an affair.
Guess Carver had a preference for urban women.
Had an affair with Rebecca, keeps Tavia as his right hand, and wanted to take Clem under his wing.
i guess they replaced it with dang it
Hmm... I must be similar to Carver then... :0
Manipulating someone into having sex with you is considered sexual assault.
Carver could have very well raped Rebecca. Women who are raped react differently to it. You'd think the majority report it, but you'd be surprised. Many just clam up and refuse to acknowledge it ever happened and is believed to be incredibly common. Look at domestic abuse victims. If they call the police and press charges, those charges often end up dropped before the abuser goes to court and the couple end up back together until the next assault. Women often just don't want to press charges regardless if it's rape or domestic abuse by their partner. There was a time (and is still evident today sadly) where women who are raped are often blamed for it which is likely why many women refuse to report it. Rebecca could have fallen in with the majority of women who don't report domestic violence and rape. Not mentioning it to Alvin is a way of her protecting not only herself but also him. Looking at it from the outside, you want to question what's going through the woman's head, but if you were her, you'd see it as survival. People do funny things when they're scared for their lives. It's easy to say a person should have done something in a situation, but put yourself in it and chances are you won't do much better. You want an interesting case of people being sheep and no one doing anything despite any outside person saying they should have called the police, look into the Kitty Genovese case. We always think someone else will do something so we just stand and watch.
You can also look into Stockholm Syndrome. Captives end up identifying with their captors after a while which makes things rather problematic when it comes to pressing charges. Rebecca could have still been in that mind set despite having run off with the cabin group. If Alvin hadn't been in her life, chances are she probably never would have left Carver.
A third bit to this: look at sex surveys if you're brave enough. In one survey done recently (2010), 85% of men said their partner had an orgasm during sex while only 64% of women reported actually having one. Quite a discrepancy. Men also aren't as good reading facial cues as women are. So it's not surprising that Carver would think Rebecca was enjoying herself. She was likely playing him for a fool. Given that she's played Alvin her entire pregnancy, is it hard to believe she played Carver, too? There's also the fact that people often see what they want to see, especially when stressed. Not hard to believe Carver was selectively seeing things around him to cope with what was going on.
.#1 is debatable, #3 is understandable, but #2 is questionable. We saw Clem's mother back in Savannah as a walker... along with her dad.
Sure, what you said is true and those are all serious issues, but still, I'm 99.99% sure Rebecca wasn't raped. A lot of women don't report it because they're shy, quiet, easily embarrassed people. Those are the kinds of people rapists target. Rebecca, on the other hand, is a strong, extremely outspoken person. And, in the present day and age, victim blaming is far from being the prevalent view in most of America. Yet, Rebecca says Alvin will "kill her" if he finds out, and Luke says "I'll let you ask Rebecca. We've all mad mistakes, done things we regret." So in order for the "Rebecca was raped" theory to make sense, three things would have had to be true:
A. Rebecca, again acting out of character, blamed herself deeply for being raped, feeling guilty enough to not tell Alvin.
B. Rebecca and Luke BOTH blamed her for getting raped, which is very out of character for Luke.
C. Rebecca blamed herself so much that she lied to Luke and said she had a consensual affair.
Rebecca believed her doting husband would blame her enough to kill her, which would be very out of character for Alvin.
Now, I suppose all of that is possible, but it's REALLY reaching. And, frankly, the fact that people are reaching so hard to make this theory make sense, is disturbing.
Well what if Rebecca was raped so many times by carver that she started to believe it was a consensual affair? What if it happened so many times that she started believing it was her fault for not stopping it and therefore thought that Alvin would leave her? When she says "he would kill me if he found out" I don't think she means he would literally kill her, I think she just means he would be very angry and leave her... She might not have said anything to Luke herself either, he may have walked in on it happening and taken it how looked rather than for what it actually was, rape, and when she tried to explain herself he didn't want to listen and continued to believe she was having an affair which only confirmed her belief that it was her fault... she also seems genuinely scared of him.. she's a very strong, fiery women and doesn't seem to be scared by much but when ever carvers name is mentioned and when she sees him for the first time she panics and seems terrified. That's what I think any way..
Why did you bump a 3 year old thread??
Alvin and Rebecca were both apparently designed to resemble Ed and Diana.
I used to think the same because it'd make perfect sense given Carver's characterization, but digging for information reveals that it's probably just an implied retcon. Rebecca implies in the Ski Lodge that Carver took advantage of her stress after numerous failed attempts to conceive with Alvin. And given that she was working as his PA announcer at the time....