Playing Dead - "Why'd They Have To Die?" S2 Ep4 - SPOILERS VIDEO
So here's the playing dead of this weekend.
My thoughts:
I wasn't expecting a video like talking about what will be happening in Ep.5, but if they gave us like a cliffhanger that would completely ruin the future experience.Like Lilly coming back or Christa or maybe the guys that attacked initially clem and Christa.Don't know, but we can predict.
I liked the playing video, it has interesting conclusions about things that happened in Ep.4 and the question about we all need to know: What's the difference between S1 to S2?Because S1 had an objective that we all know but many people think that S2 you play with Clem and has no objective.But it has, Clem and Christa initially were going to Wellington, like Kenny wanted to go when you meet him again.The objective is to find a good place to stay.
I can't say it now because i need Ep.5 to finish the Season 2 and then think about S2 morals.
Right now, S2 have all the morals things, some old and some new.
I think S2 at the moment it's about Family, on how, when, who to choose someone to be with.Also it's about difficult choices that would alter the course of "your Clem" and surronding people thoughts.
Other thing I want to focus is that in this season, no matter what, you can't always safe everyone, in the end it's up to you and just simply you.
This season puts our humanity in tension because of the choices about saving people.<-----This is for those people that want to save everyone or give them a second chance, but in the end, you are all by yourself and al least you tried to save someone.
Don't be mad about a character dying , a death gives motivation to the living people.Btw you tried to save them, that's being human.Helping each others.
There's the example of Kenny.After all the things that happened to him,Lee and Clem(with Lee thoughts too), they helped him no matter what and they pushed him up to continue living and fight for those who cares about you.He's from family and a friend.
So what are your thoughts about the playing dead video and what to expect Ep.5?
P.S.:I have a great theory about Christa,Lilly(a little bit) ,the people that attacked Christa and Clem and also the people that died by the river when you see Victor on the ground.Maybe tomorrow I'll post it.
Comments
So what's the deal with this Greg Miller? Guy seems like a troll, deliberately promoting pedophilia and hating on Sarah for being nice. Who on earth chose THIS guy to be the host of the show?
He's like the kind of guy you'd want to see eaten alive in a zombie movie.
Mod edit: Please don't insult other forum members
Please note i didn't remove this comment completely as there where legitimate conversations within its tree.
so edgy
Watch out, you might cut yourself.
The entire point of Season One was to be nice and help people. If it wasn't, your first option would be to chuck Clementine out of her treehouse and raid her home for goodies.
Put it this way: the premise is that the whole world is already full of shitty people. Would you rather give in to your misanthropic urges, or try to be something better?
Well. It was to be nice and help the people you care about. Who you want to care about and how you care about them is kinda left up to the player. If the player didn't really care that much about Sarah and felt that staying to help her would put characters he/she did care about at risk, then that would still be in line with a lot of Season 1. Not every player is an absolute altruist. Some just want to take care of them and theirs.
hey look theres know need to be rude alright the number one thing is respect if thats what he thinks then so be it but you dont have to act that way thank you.
You don't need to be an "absolute altruist" to find something wrong about being gleeful when vulnerable child characters die. When you take joy in people dying, then arguments about 'pragmatism' fly out the window.
I guess this is why some people here hate Greg so much. That, and the pedophilia thing.
sorry everyone that was meant for Badassm
Arguing is fine. But personal attacks, no matter how quaint (square!), are not.
Yes and what he did was wrong.
Oh totally. I wasn't defending Greg's dickishness in reveling in Sarah's death. I was just pointing out that Season 1 wasn't all about being a saint and caring about everybody, like emmuh28 suggested. A lot of it was actually about how much of a monster you're willing to become to take care of those who matter the most to you.
and im sorry that he said that to you. You can contact a mod if u like they dont put up with that.
You're talking like an actual zombie apocalypse is going to happen.
He was being rude and it was not right.
So, just because she doesn't have the willpower to make it, it makes her a dumbass? You fucked up. No need to explode, man.
so are you just like carver
Yeah, I don't care for the guy, either. He's a Larry, except not as useful. I don't exactly understand what was so glamorous about leaving Sarah behind, but I guess it's not my place to judge (but if this was in real life, I'd be judging the shit out of Greg Miller for letting a little girl die.)
Please don't insult people personally, there is no need for it.
Thank you for saying that Ozzy
Insults like these make me laugh. "Sarah was a dumbass like you and you are definitely the kind of guy to get eaten alive in a zombie apocalypse, hopefully." Seriously?
You don't need to like someone to admit that it'd be wrong to let them be killed if you have the chance to save them
"Would Lee have left her?"
Wow that really got me in the feels.
Clementine wouldn't have left Ben behind...
I guess it depends on your view about how much humans owe to each other. Do you think you are morally obligated to put your own life and possibly the life of another at risk in order to try to save someone else? Because that was the situation back there.
Every second you stay to help Sarah was another second you risked the walkers busting through the door and devouring Clem. And you see at the end that Jane waits for Clem to go up to the skylight first, so staying back puts Jane's life at risk as well. All of this for the chance to try to get through to Sarah, who doesn't really contribute anything as a survivor and may never do so.
So it's not as cut-and-dry an issue as choosing between "save this person" and "don't save this person." There are morally significant considerations on both sides of the equation.
Greg Miller got hit by Cancer before, but he survived.
But the Shit bird Ben left clementine to get Devoured by the Walkers, good thing that little shit was dead.
That's right.I didn't go with the thought like: Oh Lee(my Lee) saved Ben so now i need to save sarah too.
I didn't think about that, I'm person that never let someone behind.At episode 1 i didn't like Sarah but after the few episodes I started to like her.I know she's a little girl who didn't fit this new world.
In my opinion, she had some disease because Carlos said to Clem that Sarah would cease to function if she knew how the world was.
I think that nobody thought about that.
I know your feelings, i think IGN needs a better host with good opinions especially constructive ones.
I know that he needs to make jokes but I think he abuses of that.
Man, if you remember his story, about the people he lost and never had the chance to say goodbye.
I understand why he didn't protect Clem that's because his brain stop for a moment and thought that he needs to live.
He didn't want to leave Clem but he was in danger too.He couldn't even protect him self, so how could he tried to protect Clem but neither him knows how to deal with zombies?
Im not a fan of the Greg Miller dude but I don't hate him . . . he seemed like a fine host to me. Not sure where he joked about pedophilia like a poster above said, but I thought it was overall a good episode.
Its a video game dude.
"What's Season 2 about?" "Hell if we know."
Watch at 14:29.
Yeah, it might not be the most pragmatic decision as presented in the game. But gleefully letting someone die is just silly.
I liked Sarah because she was the only person who helped you without any strings attached. Carlos demanded you be locked up, Rebecca wanted you dead and forced her husband to comply, Nick shot at you, and Luke and Pete went along with the group. Being 'socially awkward' is a small price to pay for being the only person in the entire episode who actually helps you no matter what.
Which makes his lack of empathy even more repulsive as far as I'm concerned. Would he have been okay with being written off as a lost cause?
In the previous episodes of Playing Dead he made jokes about how Luke and Clem would date later on....
Uggggghhhhhh even this episode is all about Greg's feeling about a character he hates! Nobody cares Greg!!
Which is why I wonder if his presence and persona is a deliberate attempt to troll people. Or appeal to the spoiled man-child demographic.