what was the point of clem putting red paint on her face in the episode 4 slide?

and also why did they put eddie in the slide if he wasnt even gonna be in it?

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  • edited August 2014

    It was the original story for Episode 4 apparently and Telltale didn't bother to change the slide picture after they rewrote the episode's story.

  • um maybe zombie blood? like in episode 3 ending and episode 4 beginning? And the slides don't really need to mean anything deep.

  • what???? are you serious? telltale rewrote season 2? damn when did they say that? and why would they do that? they couldve at least changed the slide, the wolf among story was rewrote too. damn get it together telltale, i mean i love you guys but still, episode 5 better be amazing.

    It was the original story for Episode 4 apparently and Telltale didn't bother to change the slide picture after they rewrote the episode's story.

  • edited August 2014

    Yeah, it's too bad. The original story looked interesting. I even made a thread about it and am still hoping Telltale will someday say what it was about. Over 2,000 people are curious too.

    what???? are you serious? telltale rewrote season 2? damn when did they say that? and why would they do that? they couldve at least changed

  • They are just guessing. There isn't any indication Telltale rewrote the story besides a single Episode slide not matching, whereas Wolf had much more signs pointing towards a possible rewrite.

    what???? are you serious? telltale rewrote season 2? damn when did they say that? and why would they do that? they couldve at least changed

  • edited August 2014

    It was definitely rewritten. Even the theme music changed. Clem never put on face paint and it's highly possible that Arvo and his crew was originally going to be Eddie and his crew.

    They are just guessing. There isn't any indication Telltale rewrote the story besides a single Episode slide not matching, whereas Wolf had much more signs pointing towards a possible rewrite.

  • well clementine did put on more walker guts and blood ...but on the slide it could mean that she feels she has more blood on her hands like sariata and sarah.

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    Clem appears to be putting blood on her face and not face paint, it's possible that they could have changed it so that she put it on her face at the end of episode 3 instead of the start of episode 4 like when they moved the "Christ Bigby, is that you" scene ( which i think turned out to be the werewolf fight scene with Bloody Mary) in TWAU, it's also possible that all the shadows where placeholders and everyone was looking too deeply into it.

    It was definitely rewritten. Even the theme music changed. Clem never put on face paint and it's highly possible that Arvo and his crew was originally going to be Eddie and his crew.

  • A lot of people think that the season was re-written half-way through because of the differences in the slides, trailers and titles compared to the actual content. A lot of stuff in the slides and the trailers don't happen in the actual episodes. And then it would explain why this season's episodes feel so rushed and unfulfilled to so many people. It was re-written shoddily for some reason we don't know yet.

    what???? are you serious? telltale rewrote season 2? damn when did they say that? and why would they do that? they couldve at least changed

  • Its blood, and its meant to symbolize all of the blood that Clementine has on her hands: Lee, Sarita, Omid, etc.

  • Maybe it was used to symbolise how Clementine becomes the hunter instead of the hunted?

  • Good point Kenny_Luke, It's just a shame how some people can't link things together.

    Kenny_Luke posted: »

    Its blood, and its meant to symbolize all of the blood that Clementine has on her hands: Lee, Sarita, Omid, etc.

  • It was re-written. It's as plain as anything. Being an amateur writer myself, I could tell straight away that episode four wasn't going the way it was originally planned.
    Now it could have been done for a very good reason, but it doesn't alter the fact that it has definitely spoiled what should have been a fantastic penultimate episode.
    What gives it away was Carver. He was portrayed as this clever, cunning and manipulative leader of this group of survivors. Suddenly, he is outwitted by an eleven year old and killed by Kenny. Hmmmmmm not too bright then was he.
    No, it was obvious that the whole of episode four was going to be a dilemma for Clementine, whether she was going to turn her back on her friends, agree with Carver or try to bring him down. Carver was supposed to try to manipulate Clementine into thinking the way he does. This was clear in the conversation in his office. I suspect that was the only bit of dialogue that was saved from the original storyline.
    This was the reason for the picture of Clementine with blood on her face and the shadowy figures. It was going to be the ultimate turning point for Clementine. Why they changed it, I will never know, bar rumours and half truths. Tell-tale aren't likely to come out and tell us, but they should do. That way many people might forgive them for what turned out to be a very disappointing episode.

    nobodyy posted: »

    A lot of people think that the season was re-written half-way through because of the differences in the slides, trailers and titles compared

  • edited August 2014

    In EP1 instead you had to choice between Luke and Alvin instead of Nick and Pete. I believed it was true it was a interview I believe that somebody linked in a old discussion... I believe they interviewed Laura Perusco

    They are just guessing. There isn't any indication Telltale rewrote the story besides a single Episode slide not matching, whereas Wolf had much more signs pointing towards a possible rewrite.

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    They didn't swap them completely, the original plot had Alvin and Luke go with Clementine, Nick and Pete to the river, there was also a funny fishing sequence that got removed.

    Do you know of any ideas or scenes cut/scrapped from the game? If so are you aloud to share any?

    There were a lot of things scrapped from the game at one point, there was a whole fishing sequence in episode 1 that got cut. But it had some awesome Alvin lines where he was complaining about holding fish, and some pretty funny Clementine animations where she was trying to grab onto fish and put them in a cooler.

    .

    Has there been any scenes what had different characters in them or had some excluded?

    Well, similar to that whole fishing bit, the original ending of episode 1 had Luke and Alvin present as well. But we changed it to just be Pete, Nick, and Clem.

    http://the-walking-dead-interviews.wikia.com/wiki/Jessica_Brezzo_Interview

    joshua007 posted: »

    In EP1 instead you had to choice between Luke and Alvin instead of Nick and Pete. I believed it was true it was a interview I believe that somebody linked in a old discussion... I believe they interviewed Laura Perusco

  • The theme music on episode select has actually ALWAYS changed when a new episode is released.

    It was definitely rewritten. Even the theme music changed. Clem never put on face paint and it's highly possible that Arvo and his crew was originally going to be Eddie and his crew.

  • I realy loved to see the fishing seen

    OzzyUK posted: »

    They didn't swap them completely, the original plot had Alvin and Luke go with Clementine, Nick and Pete to the river, there was also a funn

  • I realy wanted the fishing scene

    OzzyUK posted: »

    They didn't swap them completely, the original plot had Alvin and Luke go with Clementine, Nick and Pete to the river, there was also a funn

  • Yeah they should've kept that in. Little bits like that would've made us so much more attached to those characters.

    joshua007 posted: »

    I realy loved to see the fishing seen

  • I like to believe this as well. After all, there are a few moments in this episode alone when Clementine is blamed/responsible for deaths. (Sarita, Sarah, having to put down Rebecca and Nick).

    Kenny_Luke posted: »

    Its blood, and its meant to symbolize all of the blood that Clementine has on her hands: Lee, Sarita, Omid, etc.

  • Maybe they were foreshadowing Eddie coming back? hopefully they are

  • Because I think they did that with Bonnie at the beginning, with the doll that in my opinion looks a bit like her.

    ClennyJr posted: »

    Maybe they were foreshadowing Eddie coming back? hopefully they are

  • Yeah

    Yeah they should've kept that in. Little bits like that would've made us so much more attached to those characters.

  • edited August 2014

    As I wrote sometime before: The scene from the slide did happen, albeit slightly altered. It was supposed to represent the group covering themselves in walker's guts (and if you checked save files screen before downloading episode 4, you would see that after completing ep 3 the final chapter is labeled as 'Episode not installed' instead of 'Chapter 12 - Entropy', so I guess that the whole escape through the herd was supposed to happen at the beginning of episode 4 instead of being split in half). The slide is just an overdramatic representation of what happened -TT is known for misleading advertising.

    As for Eddie - I think that he was supposed to be in episode 3 in Carver's camp, but he was cut and replaced with Mike (similar face - and maybe TT thought we won't know the difference.... but your guess is as good as mine). If anything, I think that the intital usage of 400 Days characters was supposed to be different, with greater impact on the story, but it was probably cut for timing reasons or problems with development.

  • edited August 2014

    Wasn't EP2 delayed? they could have changed some parts of the story in it

    As I wrote sometime before: The scene from the slide did happen, albeit slightly altered. It was supposed to represent the group covering th

  • It's possible, but from what I remember all the scenes from the preview at the end of episode 1 remained in the episode, with only slight alterations (model of Troy used instead of Carver etc.)

    If anything, I think that TT changed something during (or before) the development of Episode 3, because I still think that there was more to the Howe's Hardware than we were shown (400 Days!) and I guess that they simply decided to cut some parts of the episode because they had trouble with developing them (as it happened with TWAU Ep2 - there were several threads on the forum with people pointing out that the police station and interrogation scenes were supposed to be much more interactive, but ended up being replaced with simple dialogues with no impact on the story).

    joshua007 posted: »

    Wasn't EP2 delayed? they could have changed some parts of the story in it

  • I thought S2 EP3 and 4 were going to be like this

    EP3

    1. much interacting with people
    2. lot of locations
    3. more 400days
    4. Rebeccas baby is coming and hell breaksloose
    5. many walkers (they did that)
    6. Carlos probably going to die (they did that)
    7. More talking about S1
    8. What happened to Christas baby

    EP4

    1. Sarah was determinant but had a part in the first hour of EP5
    2. Eddie
    3. I also thought that some 400days characters were going with you like Bonnie.
    4. Carver dying at the end of the episode and you walked away from Carvers body and Sarah was helping you and trying to except the world like it is
  • Thats true, there were rumors that people were finding out the story of TWAU and TWD with Eddie and the 400days. The problem is that everything must be a big surprise and you have millions of fans thinking and making theory's so that is realy hard

    It's possible, but from what I remember all the scenes from the preview at the end of episode 1 remained in the episode, with only slight al

  • edited August 2014

    In EP5 of TWAU you were supossed to visit the Office and check on everybody and other things. Some people remaded the office scene and the office looked more like the comic ofice. You could check were Crane went and there was a file about a plane so yeah. There were recorded dialoges like

    Bigby saying against Beauty and Beast. Get a divorce already

    It's possible, but from what I remember all the scenes from the preview at the end of episode 1 remained in the episode, with only slight al

  • WAAAAAHHHH??!!! What the hell? That would've made the characters more define! Little moments like that is what made Season 1 so heartwarming.

    OzzyUK posted: »

    They didn't swap them completely, the original plot had Alvin and Luke go with Clementine, Nick and Pete to the river, there was also a funn

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