The Tumblr twdg fandom is in a constant uproar about sexism, ableism, feminism, name any "ism" and they're probably screaming about it over there. They can't turn off the "offended" switch for anything, not even for a video game. I'd imagine it must be very hard to enjoy life so pissed off all the time.:-/
You can pretty much remove "twdg fandom" from your statement and it will apply to over 70-80% of what's happening on Tumblr, at least from what I've heard.
The Tumblr twdg fandom is in a constant uproar about sexism, ableism, feminism, name any "ism" and they're probably screaming about it over… more there. They can't turn off the "offended" switch for anything, not even for a video game. I'd imagine it must be very hard to enjoy life so pissed off all the time.:-/
What the hell is wrong with you people on Tumblr? So the minute someone disagrees with you, that person is automatically a white "cis"(wtf is cis, is that even a word?) male in their twenties or thirties. Noo that's not the least bit generalizing or judgmental at all.
If you wasn't offended that's good for you. But if someone is, let them speak. People don't usually 'shout' because they want to annoy you or to get attention, it's because they feel hurt.
And as tumblr user, I can assure you, we enjoy the game as much as everyone here does.
The Tumblr twdg fandom is in a constant uproar about sexism, ableism, feminism, name any "ism" and they're probably screaming about it over… more there. They can't turn off the "offended" switch for anything, not even for a video game. I'd imagine it must be very hard to enjoy life so pissed off all the time.:-/
You can pretty much remove "twdg fandom" from your statement and it will apply to over 70-80% of what's happening on Tumblr, at least from what I've heard.
You can pretty much remove "twdg fandom" from your statement and it will apply to over 70-80% of what's happening on Tumblr, at least from what I've heard.
I'm not saying you aren't allowed to be offended, but there needs to be a limit. Over at Tumblr it seems that every single thing that offends someone, or is considered "problematic" even the least bit needs to be petitioned/boycotted, TellTale needs to be reprimanded for allowing it, and the person who's responsible for the "offensive" comment is now labeled as trash/gross/ableist/sexist/a bad person /belongs in the dumpster etc. With people freaking out so much over there, it lessens the impact of the issue you're trying to make light of. And because of that people won't take the issue, or you, seriously.
If you wasn't offended that's good for you. But if someone is, let them speak. People don't usually 'shout' because they want to annoy you o… morer to get attention, it's because they feel hurt.
And as tumblr user, I can assure you, we enjoy the game as much as everyone here does.
I hope you understand that everyone is different. And of course everyone is mad about different things, that's why it may seem that 'everyone is offended by something'. But that's at the same time the precious thing about tumblr - no one will try to shut you up. What I've been told about tumblr before I joined it - you won't be judged there unless you're uncivil. And strangely it happen to be true.
I'm not saying that I agree with every topic that had been raised on tumblr, but you can be heared there, and that's what I aprreciate.
I'm not saying you aren't allowed to be offended, but there needs to be a limit. Over at Tumblr it seems that every single thing that offend… mores someone, or is considered "problematic" even the least bit needs to be petitioned/boycotted, TellTale needs to be reprimanded for allowing it, and the person who's responsible for the "offensive" comment is now labeled as trash/gross/ableist/sexist/a bad person /belongs in the dumpster etc. With people freaking out so much over there, it lessens the impact of the issue you're trying to make light of. And because of that people won't take the issue, or you, seriously.
Of course I understand that everyone is different and will react differently to things. But just because you're offended doesn't mean it calls for this huge movement to make TellTale apologize, or yield to your way of thinking about those things. I just don't understand what you all over at Tumblr want to get out of this, Greg apologized but you're all still angry. I hate to break it to you but I think you've been misinformed about Tumblr. Tumblr preaches about accepting and embracing everybody, and not judging anyone, but that only applies if you think like them. If someone has an unpopular opinion or disagrees with them, they attack you like rabid dogs.
You can be heard on any forum, all you have to do is start a thread. Do you mean to say that having people agree with you is equivalent to being heard? Sorry, I might be misinterpreting that last bit of your comment.
every single thing that offends someone
I hope you understand that everyone is different. And of course everyone is mad about differ… moreent things, that's why it may seem that 'everyone is offended by something'. But that's at the same time the precious thing about tumblr - no one will try to shut you up. What I've been told about tumblr before I joined it - you won't be judged there unless you're uncivil. And strangely it happen to be true.
I'm not saying that I agree with every topic that had been raised on tumblr, but you can be heared there, and that's what I aprreciate.
If someone has an unpopular opinion or disagrees with them, they attack you like rabid dogs.
I haven't seen this side of tumblr yet and I'm truly sorry if you did. Not everyone there is well-mannered but it's just like everywhere, there is no perfection in the world. But from what I've seen the majority are actually nice people.
By 'you can be heard' I meant there will be people who will discuss your topic of interest without being impolite.
Of course I understand that everyone is different and will react differently to things. But just because you're offended doesn't mean it cal… morels for this huge movement to make TellTale apologize, or yield to your way of thinking about those things. I just don't understand what you all over at Tumblr want to get out of this, Greg apologized but you're all still angry. I hate to break it to you but I think you've been misinformed about Tumblr. Tumblr preaches about accepting and embracing everybody, and not judging anyone, but that only applies if you think like them. If someone has an unpopular opinion or disagrees with them, they attack you like rabid dogs.
You can be heard on any forum, all you have to do is start a thread. Do you mean to say that having people agree with you is equivalent to being heard? Sorry, I might be misinterpreting that last bit of your comment.
You are very lucky not to have dealt with people like that, and I hope you never do. I don't own a Tumblr account, but I lurk there a lot, and the amount of times I've seen someone being bullied into deleting their account because they think differently is far too high. However, I can't disagree with you there, it is true that every forum/site is always going to have some bad apples. All I can say is that there is a reason why Tumblr tends to have such a bad rep among non-Tumblr users.
I think you can be heard here, as said earlier there will always be a few trolls on the forums, but for those few trolls there is a lot more people who actually want to have a polite discussion and exchange thoughts/opinions civilly.
If someone has an unpopular opinion or disagrees with them, they attack you like rabid dogs.
I haven't seen this side of tumblr yet … moreand I'm truly sorry if you did. Not everyone there is well-mannered but it's just like everywhere, there is no perfection in the world. But from what I've seen the majority are actually nice people.
By 'you can be heard' I meant there will be people who will discuss your topic of interest without being impolite.
It's not that I can't see why so many are upset by what Greg said, because it was put harshly. But it crosses the line when people start spa… moremming/harassing him with personal insults, and are legitimately trying to get him fired over an opinion. Even after his apology, they are still out for blood and want him to "pay for what he's done". Nothing Greg says or does will be good enough for these people. Those angry fans are just crazy tbh. I heard about that ESPN anchor, and I think it was wrong for him to get fired for having an unpopular opinion. People are too damn sensitive nowadays, and want everything to be censored to protect their feelings. Before we know it we'll be getting arrested solely for having a controversial opinion.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've seen posts about 'stop bulling, it makes people delete their blog' stuff, but it was in general, never applying to TWDG. As I said, tumblr is not perfect and I only can wish it to become a better place.
You are very lucky not to have dealt with people like that, and I hope you never do. I don't own a Tumblr account, but I lurk there a lot, a… morend the amount of times I've seen someone being bullied into deleting their account because they think differently is far too high. However, I can't disagree with you there, it is true that every forum/site is always going to have some bad apples. All I can say is that there is a reason why Tumblr tends to have such a bad rep among non-Tumblr users.
I think you can be heard here, as said earlier there will always be a few trolls on the forums, but for those few trolls there is a lot more people who actually want to have a polite discussion and exchange thoughts/opinions civilly.
What the hell is wrong with you people on Tumblr? So the minute someone disagrees with you, that person is automatically a white "cis"(wtf i… mores cis, is that even a word?) male in their twenties or thirties. Noo that's not the least bit generalizing or judgmental at all.
Don't you see the problem with what you said? You are immediately assuming a person's race and gender based off of an opinion, and then generalizing the whole forum as being full of white straight men(is cis slang for straight? I looked it up and that's the definition I got), not only is that very judgmental but is also very rude to other white straight men who don't have the same opinion. It's not ok that people laughed at Sarah's death, but it's also not ok to make shakily based assumptions off of one opinion.
No. Go away, blood sucking leeches. Don't make issues where there are NONE. Telltale hasn't done anything wrong or even slightly deserving of this bullshit.
"Cisgender" means you were born in a physical body that matches the gender of your inner being. For example, I'm a cisgender female because I am inwardly female in a matching body. This isn't a very nuanced explanation, but basically, what I mean is I'm not transgender. Not taking sides in the argument--just defining what "cis" means.
Don't you see the problem with what you said? You are immediately assuming a person's race and gender based off of an opinion, and then gene… moreralizing the whole forum as being full of white straight men(is cis slang for straight? I looked it up and that's the definition I got), not only is that very judgmental but is also very rude to other white straight men who don't have the same opinion. It's not ok that people laughed at Sarah's death, but it's also not ok to make shakily based assumptions off of one opinion.
Joke: something spoken, written, or done with humorous intention. Honestly the fact that someone can say a joke and be called offensive for … moreit, or stick up for "Freedom of Speech" and called a "Gross person" for it is just silly. Jokes are meant to be funny (And yeah some jokes do fail at that) not to be offensive. To say we can't make certain jokes about things is censorship of "Freedom of Speech", and censorship is telling a man he can't have steak just because a baby can't chew it.
"Cisgender" means you were born in a physical body that matches the gender of your inner being. For example, I'm a cisgender female because … moreI am inwardly female in a matching body. This isn't a very nuanced explanation, but basically, what I mean is I'm not transgender. Not taking sides in the argument--just defining what "cis" means.
I don't mean to sound like a douche, but you seriously need to stop being a Sarah fanboy. Just because things didn't go the way you wanted it, doesn't mean you have to hate the game now. That's life. Do you really think what they said on this true??? It's probably all for Greg Miller's show. And besides, it's only two developers opinion anyways.
P.S. Who the hell is Greg Miller and why does everyone care about him so much??? I know he's from IGN, but damn, I see this name an awful lot on this forum.
EDIT: I saw the disabled part... So what it's offensive. What movies and TV shows aren't. Although I still don't understand how the hell he got the idea and how it is offensive. I mean, in real life... yeah, maybe a disabled person wouldn't do so good in this world. It's understandable and that isn't the only reason why she died. Her father wasn't really raising right her well in a world like this. So you can't just say this game frowns upon disabled people
I don't mean to sound like a douche, but you seriously need to stop being a Sarah fanboy. Just because things didn't go the way you wanted i… moret, doesn't mean you have to hate the game now. That's life. Do you really think what they said on this true??? It's probably all for Greg Miller's show. And besides, it's only two developers opinion anyways.
P.S. Who the hell is Greg Miller and why does everyone care about him so much??? I know he's from IGN, but damn, I see this name an awful lot on this forum.
EDIT: I saw the disabled part... So what it's offensive. What movies and TV shows aren't. Although I still don't understand how the hell he got the idea and how it is offensive. I mean, in real life... yeah, maybe a disabled person wouldn't do so good in this world. It's understandable and that isn't the only reason why she died. Her father wasn't really raising right her well in a world like this. So you can't just say this game frowns upon disabled people
I must be lucky too then. Although I heard of severe bullying on tumblr I haven't actually seen as much. If anything I've seen far more bullying on twitter and facebook combined than I ever seen on tumblr. (I don't use social networking much though I do check them at least once a day.)
You are very lucky not to have dealt with people like that, and I hope you never do. I don't own a Tumblr account, but I lurk there a lot, a… morend the amount of times I've seen someone being bullied into deleting their account because they think differently is far too high. However, I can't disagree with you there, it is true that every forum/site is always going to have some bad apples. All I can say is that there is a reason why Tumblr tends to have such a bad rep among non-Tumblr users.
I think you can be heard here, as said earlier there will always be a few trolls on the forums, but for those few trolls there is a lot more people who actually want to have a polite discussion and exchange thoughts/opinions civilly.
With good writing, you don't want to see characters that you hate or annoy you die. I didn't find any joy in splattering larry all over the meat locker despite thinking he was a douche. To take a non-TWD example that none of you will have heard of, when Normad "dies", that is sad, even though up to that point he's just been deliberately annoying and you wished he would go away. His death actually makes you realise how much he was a part of the team, even if he was annoying.
However, there are some times where you find joy in someone's death. For me those times only tend to be when someone is a blatantly evil scumbag. Sarah is not a blatantly evil scumbag, she's a scared little girl and taking joy in her death is just fucked up, whether you liked her or found her super annoying. Honestly, that he said that just speaks to the bad writing of season 2 imo because I don't think greg is some kind of evil monster. I think the problem is with the game that didn't make him give a crap about her as a person. You shouldn't want to see your fellow group members dead if they haven't done anything wrong.
So it seems like a lot of the hate towards Greg Miller is due to the fact that he found joy in seeing Sarah, a character he didn't like, die… more. But this is something that gamers and other patrons of fiction do all the time. Don't pretend like it's some cardinal sin that only "monsters" like Greg Miller are capable of. I think a lot of us, at one time or another, have found it enjoyable to see a particular character that we don't like and find annoying be killed off.
For those of you who are Star Wars fans, how many of you would react with outrage at a gleeful reaction towards the death of, say, Jar Jar Binks? Not many of you, I'm guessing. And it's not as if the character has done something evil or immoral. People hate him because he's annoying and cumbersome. People hate him for being who he is. People hate his character for existing. And I, personally, agree. I don't think that makes me a monster. I think it makes me a Star Wars fan.
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But Ben directly caused people to die through his lying. Sarah is just a scared little girl who hasn't done anything wrong. You may not think she's worth saving, but you should not be happy to watch her die.
You don't even need to look outside of TWD to see that some players are happy to see characters die.
In Season 1, the forums had many posts from people who were happy to murder Ben by dropping him to his death.
It's there alright, and just like I said to theonys, I sincerely hope you don't ever have to see it. The people who engage in it are huge hypocrites, they advocate love and acceptance but turn on others at even the slightest mention of an opinion they don't agree with. They tell their followers about the user and send them over to harass them. It's disgusting, and is a huge reason as to why I despise Tumblr so much as a community. I only really lurk there for edits/gifs/art mostly, but I still come across it some how. I guess I'm just unlucky that way. Thankfully I have neither a Facebook or a Twitter, nor do I plan to lurk on there.
I must be lucky too then. Although I heard of severe bullying on tumblr I haven't actually seen as much. If anything I've seen far more bull… moreying on twitter and facebook combined than I ever seen on tumblr. (I don't use social networking much though I do check them at least once a day.)
The two Telltale employees publicly stated that people at Telltale were excited to kill Sarah. That they were waiting for a chance to do so. And that they listened to the ableist casual fandom who hated her and used that to go forward with her eventual pointless death. They then go on to make a joke about the fact that, in order to save Sarah, the player has to physically assault her while she’s in the middle of a shut-down. They joke that people who hated her wanted to slap her, but that would mean saving her, something they didn’t want to do.
Telltale's Walking Dead capitalizes on life or death choices as the pinnacle of interactive fiction, that's what I consider a major problem with the series. Let's face it, life or death choices are the most boring choice & consequence mechanics in story based games. They're utterly foreseeable and it's painfully obvious how players are tricked out of experiencing 'consequences' with life or death choices.
Essentially, the situations in which these choices are made are arbitrary and artificial, and most of all repetitive. Two people are attacked by zombies at the same time, whom do you save? Do you save yourself or do you try to help a person in danger? The only thing that distinguishes these repeating choice moments is context. Who are these characters whom I am trying to help or whom I am letting die? However, if there was only one answer to the latter question, there wouldn't be any choice to make. People would save the good guys and let the bad guys die. So Telltale always has to leave a window open for ambiguity. There have to be sound reasons for either choice. It was always clear what Sarah's role was from moment one. She took Ben's place as a "walking liability". OF COURSE there would be people who just waited to get rid of her, even at Telltale's office.
Saving her, the compassionate route, advertises itself. So Telltale's designers advertise the cynic alternative, the bad guy arguments. Greg Miller certainly is no help: it's all about the coolness factor for him, and that's only one of the reasons why Telltale seriously has to take these videos back into their own hands again, preferably with AJ Locascio as the host.
As long as Telltale's Walking Dead goes on, this will probably remain a problem.
very good post,i can say you have touched on something there,TWD is very limited...it's about life and death,there is never going to be a point where a season where no one dies or the z.a.ends and everyone gets to play the normal life sim,even if it would be ultra cool. But then why are we playing it? to play as Clem? to save her? the characters we want to save are unsaveable in the end,so why invest? will there be no end goal or sunset ending?
The two Telltale employees publicly stated that people at Telltale were excited to kill Sarah. That they were waiting for a chance to do so.… more And that they listened to the ableist casual fandom who hated her and used that to go forward with her eventual pointless death. They then go on to make a joke about the fact that, in order to save Sarah, the player has to physically assault her while she’s in the middle of a shut-down. They joke that people who hated her wanted to slap her, but that would mean saving her, something they didn’t want to do.
Telltale's Walking Dead capitalizes on life or death choices as the pinnacle of interactive fiction, that's what I consider a major problem with the series. Let's face it, life or death choices are the most boring choice & consequence mechanics in story based games. They're utterly foreseeable and it's painfully obvious how players are tricked out of experiencing 'consequences' with li… [view original content]
your correct,a lot of fans didn't say she was disabled back then,including me,but i have changed my mind based on what ive read from fans who have got similiar disabilities,and it's probably something i wouldn't recognise as a disability because it's so subtle.
How is this tumblr garbage still going around in here? Are the sheeple keeping it alive?. What is it with Sarah suddenly being accepted as "… moredisabled/autistic/aspergers" when most of the people in THIS forum already agreed that she's not "disabled/autistic/aspergers" back in that huge "IS SARAH AUTISTIC" thread?.
very good post,i can say you have touched on something there,TWD is very limited...it's about life and death,there is never going to be a po… moreint where a season where no one dies or the z.a.ends and everyone gets to play the normal life sim,even if it would be ultra cool. But then why are we playing it? to play as Clem? to save her? the characters we want to save are unsaveable in the end,so why invest? will there be no end goal or sunset ending?
and deffo for AJ
TWD is very limited...
That's because they don't try hard enough to come up with something new, Kirkman has been stuck on the same s… moretuff for like 6 years now.
The show's second half of Season 4 didn't have any major character deaths and GUESS WHAT, it's the best part of the show apart from Season 1.
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The Tumblr twdg fandom is in a constant uproar about sexism, ableism, feminism, name any "ism" and they're probably screaming about it over there. They can't turn off the "offended" switch for anything, not even for a video game. I'd imagine it must be very hard to enjoy life so pissed off all the time.:-/
You can pretty much remove "twdg fandom" from your statement and it will apply to over 70-80% of what's happening on Tumblr, at least from what I've heard.
What the hell is wrong with you people on Tumblr? So the minute someone disagrees with you, that person is automatically a white "cis"(wtf is cis, is that even a word?) male in their twenties or thirties. Noo that's not the least bit generalizing or judgmental at all.
If you wasn't offended that's good for you. But if someone is, let them speak. People don't usually 'shout' because they want to annoy you or to get attention, it's because they feel hurt.
And as tumblr user, I can assure you, we enjoy the game as much as everyone here does.
Sadly, you're correct. Tumblr has great edits and gifs, but as for the community? Stay away at all costs xshuddersx
Sadly, you're correct. Tumblr has great edits and gifs, but as for the community? Stay away at all costs xshuddersx
I'm not saying you aren't allowed to be offended, but there needs to be a limit. Over at Tumblr it seems that every single thing that offends someone, or is considered "problematic" even the least bit needs to be petitioned/boycotted, TellTale needs to be reprimanded for allowing it, and the person who's responsible for the "offensive" comment is now labeled as trash/gross/ableist/sexist/a bad person /belongs in the dumpster etc. With people freaking out so much over there, it lessens the impact of the issue you're trying to make light of. And because of that people won't take the issue, or you, seriously.
damn, I keep double posting, wtf is wrong with my computer. Sorry guys.
I hope you understand that everyone is different. And of course everyone is mad about different things, that's why it may seem that 'everyone is offended by something'. But that's at the same time the precious thing about tumblr - no one will try to shut you up. What I've been told about tumblr before I joined it - you won't be judged there unless you're uncivil. And strangely it happen to be true.
I'm not saying that I agree with every topic that had been raised on tumblr, but you can be heared there, and that's what I aprreciate.
Of course I understand that everyone is different and will react differently to things. But just because you're offended doesn't mean it calls for this huge movement to make TellTale apologize, or yield to your way of thinking about those things. I just don't understand what you all over at Tumblr want to get out of this, Greg apologized but you're all still angry. I hate to break it to you but I think you've been misinformed about Tumblr. Tumblr preaches about accepting and embracing everybody, and not judging anyone, but that only applies if you think like them. If someone has an unpopular opinion or disagrees with them, they attack you like rabid dogs.
You can be heard on any forum, all you have to do is start a thread. Do you mean to say that having people agree with you is equivalent to being heard? Sorry, I might be misinterpreting that last bit of your comment.
I haven't seen this side of tumblr yet and I'm truly sorry if you did. Not everyone there is well-mannered but it's just like everywhere, there is no perfection in the world. But from what I've seen the majority are actually nice people.
By 'you can be heard' I meant there will be people who will discuss your topic of interest without being impolite.
You are very lucky not to have dealt with people like that, and I hope you never do. I don't own a Tumblr account, but I lurk there a lot, and the amount of times I've seen someone being bullied into deleting their account because they think differently is far too high. However, I can't disagree with you there, it is true that every forum/site is always going to have some bad apples. All I can say is that there is a reason why Tumblr tends to have such a bad rep among non-Tumblr users.
I think you can be heard here, as said earlier there will always be a few trolls on the forums, but for those few trolls there is a lot more people who actually want to have a polite discussion and exchange thoughts/opinions civilly.
Brother, please take an upvote!
thanks man! Good to hear I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
I'm sorry to hear that. I've seen posts about 'stop bulling, it makes people delete their blog' stuff, but it was in general, never applying to TWDG. As I said, tumblr is not perfect and I only can wish it to become a better place.
No you misunderstood, that comment is toward people who laugh at sarah's death. if it isn't you, then you have nothing to worry about.
Don't you see the problem with what you said? You are immediately assuming a person's race and gender based off of an opinion, and then generalizing the whole forum as being full of white straight men(is cis slang for straight? I looked it up and that's the definition I got), not only is that very judgmental but is also very rude to other white straight men who don't have the same opinion. It's not ok that people laughed at Sarah's death, but it's also not ok to make shakily based assumptions off of one opinion.
No. Go away, blood sucking leeches. Don't make issues where there are NONE. Telltale hasn't done anything wrong or even slightly deserving of this bullshit.
i think whoever wrote this article should really check their privilege :P
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"Cisgender" means you were born in a physical body that matches the gender of your inner being. For example, I'm a cisgender female because I am inwardly female in a matching body. This isn't a very nuanced explanation, but basically, what I mean is I'm not transgender. Not taking sides in the argument--just defining what "cis" means.
So a black person saying your racist joke is racist and offensive is them being a baby that can't chew a steak? okayy...
Oh okay, thanks for the explanation.
I see what you did there lol.
This post triggers my self-induced PTSD
I sorta get this, but then I don't. Care to explain please?
it's a tumblr social justice Vs tumblr social justice battle
I don't mean to sound like a douche, but you seriously need to stop being a Sarah fanboy. Just because things didn't go the way you wanted it, doesn't mean you have to hate the game now. That's life. Do you really think what they said on this true??? It's probably all for Greg Miller's show. And besides, it's only two developers opinion anyways.
P.S. Who the hell is Greg Miller and why does everyone care about him so much??? I know he's from IGN, but damn, I see this name an awful lot on this forum.
EDIT: I saw the disabled part... So what it's offensive. What movies and TV shows aren't. Although I still don't understand how the hell he got the idea and how it is offensive. I mean, in real life... yeah, maybe a disabled person wouldn't do so good in this world. It's understandable and that isn't the only reason why she died. Her father wasn't really raising right her well in a world like this. So you can't just say this game frowns upon disabled people
If Tumblr Social Justice Warriors had a catch phrase it would seriously be "Don't Trigger Me!11!!"
Approximately what percentage of the OP did you read?
I must be lucky too then. Although I heard of severe bullying on tumblr I haven't actually seen as much. If anything I've seen far more bullying on twitter and facebook combined than I ever seen on tumblr. (I don't use social networking much though I do check them at least once a day.)
With good writing, you don't want to see characters that you hate or annoy you die. I didn't find any joy in splattering larry all over the meat locker despite thinking he was a douche. To take a non-TWD example that none of you will have heard of, when Normad "dies", that is sad, even though up to that point he's just been deliberately annoying and you wished he would go away. His death actually makes you realise how much he was a part of the team, even if he was annoying.
However, there are some times where you find joy in someone's death. For me those times only tend to be when someone is a blatantly evil scumbag. Sarah is not a blatantly evil scumbag, she's a scared little girl and taking joy in her death is just fucked up, whether you liked her or found her super annoying. Honestly, that he said that just speaks to the bad writing of season 2 imo because I don't think greg is some kind of evil monster. I think the problem is with the game that didn't make him give a crap about her as a person. You shouldn't want to see your fellow group members dead if they haven't done anything wrong.
But Ben directly caused people to die through his lying. Sarah is just a scared little girl who hasn't done anything wrong. You may not think she's worth saving, but you should not be happy to watch her die.
It's there alright, and just like I said to theonys, I sincerely hope you don't ever have to see it. The people who engage in it are huge hypocrites, they advocate love and acceptance but turn on others at even the slightest mention of an opinion they don't agree with. They tell their followers about the user and send them over to harass them. It's disgusting, and is a huge reason as to why I despise Tumblr so much as a community. I only really lurk there for edits/gifs/art mostly, but I still come across it some how. I guess I'm just unlucky that way. Thankfully I have neither a Facebook or a Twitter, nor do I plan to lurk on there.
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Telltale's Walking Dead capitalizes on life or death choices as the pinnacle of interactive fiction, that's what I consider a major problem with the series. Let's face it, life or death choices are the most boring choice & consequence mechanics in story based games. They're utterly foreseeable and it's painfully obvious how players are tricked out of experiencing 'consequences' with life or death choices.
Essentially, the situations in which these choices are made are arbitrary and artificial, and most of all repetitive. Two people are attacked by zombies at the same time, whom do you save? Do you save yourself or do you try to help a person in danger? The only thing that distinguishes these repeating choice moments is context. Who are these characters whom I am trying to help or whom I am letting die? However, if there was only one answer to the latter question, there wouldn't be any choice to make. People would save the good guys and let the bad guys die. So Telltale always has to leave a window open for ambiguity. There have to be sound reasons for either choice. It was always clear what Sarah's role was from moment one. She took Ben's place as a "walking liability". OF COURSE there would be people who just waited to get rid of her, even at Telltale's office.
Saving her, the compassionate route, advertises itself. So Telltale's designers advertise the cynic alternative, the bad guy arguments. Greg Miller certainly is no help: it's all about the coolness factor for him, and that's only one of the reasons why Telltale seriously has to take these videos back into their own hands again, preferably with AJ Locascio as the host.
As long as Telltale's Walking Dead goes on, this will probably remain a problem.
very good post,i can say you have touched on something there,TWD is very limited...it's about life and death,there is never going to be a point where a season where no one dies or the z.a.ends and everyone gets to play the normal life sim,even if it would be ultra cool. But then why are we playing it? to play as Clem? to save her? the characters we want to save are unsaveable in the end,so why invest? will there be no end goal or sunset ending?
and deffo for AJ
your correct,a lot of fans didn't say she was disabled back then,including me,but i have changed my mind based on what ive read from fans who have got similiar disabilities,and it's probably something i wouldn't recognise as a disability because it's so subtle.
That's because they don't try hard enough to come up with something new, Kirkman has been stuck on the same stuff for like 6 years now.
The show's second half of Season 4 didn't have any major character deaths and GUESS WHAT, it's the best part of the show apart from Season 1.
i agree,Kirkman is no Romero by any stretch.