Insight on Characters Fate/ Plot of Episode 5
Now I know a lot of people on this forum are not fond of me, but I try to keep it real as best as can whether that be rude or not. Before Episode 4 I made a thread similar to the idea that the game parallels the TV show in A LOT of ways. And in that thread I predicted Sarah's death, much like Sophia in the show.
Now I don't say to gloat (well I do but not entirely) but up to this point the game has paralled the TV show in many ways. I don't read the comics but I am sure they are interlinked. When I say they are similar I don't just mean in a general sense either. I mean like there are very specific similarities in the characters and even the plot. I could make an ENTIRE list but just take my word on this one (I can make the list if so requested.)
Anyways, if this trend continues I see Clem surviving this Episode ( much like Carl, who isn't going to die in the show anytime soon ( even though he annoys the crap out of)) However, I see Kenny not surviving (parallel slightly to Merle) and I see Jane and or Lilly returning (much like Michonne or even Carol (who now that I think about it, looks like Jane. . . ))
So in essence my three predictions for this Episode (note, I seriously have no clue if these will be right just throwing stuff out there) are that:
1) Clem lives.
2) Kenny dies.
3) Jane/ Lilly/ maybe even Christa returns
Now I know none of these are ground breaking predictions. And I know i left out Mike, Bonnie, and Luke. Im just saying because I was right in the last episode pretty spot on, the TV show gives us a pretty good glimpse of what may happen in the game. Please share any comparisons you see/ predictions.
Comments
1)Would be VERY surprised if Clem died.
2)Kenny seems unstable in every way. Since Kenny told Clem she can handle herself better than most adults in ep4 I can see Kenny giving up if the baby dies and i think the baby's chances of survival are slim.
3)I think Jane has disappeared for good just like Molly. Would be cool to see Lilly again but it seems weird to reintroduce a character in the last episode? I think we will meet Christa dead or alive.
Can i just say thank you too YOU, a couple months ago you were well.. really negative. Now days i always seeing you helping users out, and giving amazing points and making awesome threads like these. So thank you
Anyways my death predictions are
Kenny
Luke
Bonnie
Mike
and if they return
Nate
Christa (maybe)
Really? I don't think you've seen my recent posts. Still an asshole but thanks for the compliment! I truthfully think everyone will die besides either Luke OR Bonnie (but not both) and who ever shows up (lilly christ a or Jane) if anyone shows up
(actually I am a really nice guy but I got a reputation to keep on here, ya know? : ) )
Yeah there are sooo many similarities between Michonne (I'm referring to the show; haven't read the comics closely, tho I know she's similar there too) and Jane I'm surprised no one's ever brought them up, as far as I've seen on these forums. They both use the "cow catcher" technique and the walking-with-zombie-guts technique, both had a kind of isolationist attitude, both suffered loss in the past due to mistakes they made and from there decided not to interact with people anymore to save themselves from getting hurt, and they both come to care for younger people that seem to bring their humanity back and suppress their pure survival instinct. Jane and Michonne are a lot more similar than Jane is to Molly, imo.
Jane was a lot more trusting of Clem's group than Michonne was of Rick's group initially though, probably bc of the differing circumstances under which they met. I think if Jane was ever taken prisoner like Michonne had sorta been, Jane would be just as untrusting.
If we go by the show to try to make predictions, Michonne has left Rick's group before and did come back again, like Jane leaves Clem's group. The most relevant situation I can think of is when the prison falls, and Michonne heads off on her own, choosing not to follow Rick's and Carl's footprints. It's implied she's thinking it's better to not form relationships and not get hurt rather than form them and get hurt. Then she realizes if she continues that way, she'd just become like the walking dead zombies, in that she'll just become a husk of the human she once was. She's upset by this and returns to the footprints to reunite with Rick and Carl and the rest of their group later. Sooo hopefully Jane has a revelation that she'll end up being alone for the rest of this unless she decides to return to the group. Personally I think she'll return, but probably in season 3. And assuming he's still around, It would be fun to see how she interacts with Luke too hehe.
Exactly^
Michonne saw the footprints and went the other way. Jane saw her becoming attached to the group and left. I think she'll be back though. It had a completely different vibe than Molly leaving. When Clem and Jane were saying good byes it almost felt as if Clem was trying to persuade her that its better to be in a group with people you can trust. Great observation though with the comparison to Michonne. I didn't even think of that at first.
Kenny is "marked for death"
Thanks! Yeah I wasn't thinking of how Jane's and Molly's good-byes were different either, good eye. Lee embraced Molly (don't remember if that's determinate), and Jane's farewell left a lot of people feeling like they didn't care if she came back or not. And personally I was starting to get the feeling that Jane was trying to persuade herself to hurry up and go when she was telling Clem at the end to leave the group if she needed to. "...You don't owe them anything. They'll make you feel like you do. Like it's all one happy family. But when push comes to shove...You'll see." Of course she's probably speaking from experience, but it sounded like she was giving herself a pep-talk to leave too.
Man, am I glad I don't watch the show. I love the comics, but from what I hear, the show sounds like shit.
Sophia dies? She's STILL alive in the comics.
Carl's a brat? In the comics he's a total badass.
I never got into comics in general but if you're saying a comic book is better than a TV show - you cray.
i hope Kenny and Luke will not dead because they are the best character so far
Hey Guys I Think Christa die
dieD* or will die ?
I fear that when we make it to Wellington, we may see the corpse of Christa.
I was thinking that too, or even worse: Jane. If we see Jane dead or something that will be a real tear jerker, since she was so bent on being by herself.
If she dies... she's pretty much foreshadowing her own death...
1) I would be too, I am not buying into the hype of them killing Clementine.
2) Ever since his scene in the back of the truck to Carvers camp, it was clear to me that he hasn't changed. That he always thinks he is right, and that no one else should have a say. Now that he is out of depression with the baby, if the baby goes, so does Kenny.
3) Like I said, its very strange how Jane and Molly left almost exactly the same way: end of an episode, better off alone. . .but I have a feeling about Jane coming back. I think if Telltale does make her reappear it would be epic. Don't know why they wouldn't.
I honestly doubt we'll see christa or lilly. And i know a lot of people want eddie back, but it would be too much of a coincidence to have two returning characters.
so i wouldn't worry TOO much.
I have a feeling kenny will die, but telltale probably won't let that happen.
And clem dying, kinda unlikely, but we'll see.
I am thinking that Luke and Jane might have a sort of underlying plan.
Thats what I meant. I meant only 1 of the 3 will return. I didn't mean all 3 will return. I would agree thats overkill.
Oh? What plan?
Luke seemed genuinely upset when he found out Jane left. . . at least I thought he did. I did not get any indication that Luke had a plan with her.
Based on the new playing dead, Jane seems like she will return for sure. Not completely sold if it will be next episode but certainly she will return. If she does return next episode, seems like it will parallel Michonne exactly as mentioned above.
I just got a indication because he never reacted that way about anyone. Maybe it was a way to throw the group off, but it just seemed to weird for him to be that upset.
Edit The situation with the Russians Luke seemed more concerned than the rest of the group like he knew something.
I don't really know, I wouldn't say against the group, but probably something to hide from the group.
Nah I don't think so. Im not sure if everyone in the group knows about Janes and Lukes "relationship". . . I thought he seemed angry at her for leaving for that reason. Especially since he said at the end that he and Jane should go out and look for food in the morning. . . but I don't think he was planning to look for food ; )
I know what you mean, but maybe their plan was to leave together and abandon the group since Luke really has no emotional ties to really anyone besides Clem.
Rebecca Dead
Nick Dead
Sarah Dead
(Rest of cabin group) Dead
Kenny Argues against
Bonnie Doesn't trust
Mike Doesn't know well
Would make sense but I think the theory wasn't used enough to provide sufficient evidence for it.
I understand I am not gonna hold close to it. I read it somewhere and added my own justifications since the person confused "No" for "Now".
Honestly I think he reacted so much bc I'm guessing Jane was the first person he opened up to about how he was stressed out, like it was the first time he opened his bottled emotions up. Then after she left, he couldn't tamp back down on them. Did you notice how he was yelling and snapping at Kenny and even Clem to an extent after Jane left? So it seems like he overreacted when she left, when he just couldn't control it anymore. I think he was angry not just at Jane there but also himself bc the reason (aka Jane) he had agreed to reckless behavior had just gone, and now there was nothing more he could do about it; their original plan to atone together (maybe
) to get more supplies was ruined.
With the Russians, we saw Luke backing up at one point. Arvo, the only unarmed guy, was in front of him. Luke's already shown he detests killing any person, even Carver, so I think it's natural he seems more concerned and outright uncomfortable in this gunfight, where he'll have to shoot people, like an unarmed guy in front of him. He's a lot less likely to shoot the Russians than the others in his group, if you look at the dialogue.
But getting back to Jane, it would be pretty rad if she came back some time after the gunfight, as she might not have been that far away after she left (maybe depending on your choice to leave after a few days or the next day) and with all those gunshots I'm sure she would've been alarmed if she'd heard them coming from Clem's direction. Buut I'm not sure that'll happen.
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Derpy Hooves! 6.9 ...and sorry for the lengthiness 
It's not total shit, I really enjoyed season 1 and 2, then got little less exited, but I'm still gonna watch upcoming one.
If Kenny dies they better bring up someone else that has an interesting story because I won't play a game that only has Clementine as the immortal of the game.
Isn't Kenny the immortal of the game? He escaped like 20 walkers in a corner. . .
You mix reality with fantasy. I'm saying she is immortal because she will not be killed off. It's a non issue with her. I simply want more people to be considered major roles that aren't all going to die.
yeah. kenny back was cool, but one of those two would be a lot.
In my opinion the comics beat the TV show's ass. Mrbman is definitely right about this stuff.