Clem's slap
I made a little discovery poking around in the game files. When Clem slaps Sarah, the actual audio file name TT gave it is "bitch slap" xD
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I made a little discovery poking around in the game files. When Clem slaps Sarah, the actual audio file name TT gave it is "bitch slap" xD
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So sad that Sarah was slapped by the only two people that could get through to her and the same two people that she calls out for help.
How sad.
Seems like the devs really did think it was funny to have Clem slap Sarah.
Apparently.
Never thought about it that way.
It actually is.
This doesn't bring honour to TT.
Telltale never fails at disappointing me.
I feel like a dick now
Guys, stop freaking out. It's the same audio file used when she slapped Walter. They didn't specifically call it a bitch slap because "lulz fuck u Sarah."
Urgh, for crying out loud... Telltale gave an audio file a humorous and easy to remember name due to categorizing and labeling files being monotonous and now they're of course devil-spawn for it.
Hate train never stops.
If you've ever been in the position of having to organize and manage data while conforming to a very specific naming format you'd understand why someone might want to inject a little fun. The slap sound associated with Clem hitting certain characters is probably called this for ease of access and a laugh, not out of spite for them.
& just when I thought I couldn't possibly be any more disappointed in them
Shame on you, again, Telltale.
Just another detail that makes me not want to play Episode 5.
It's humorous to use an expression containing a derogatory insult for a woman?
Now you really are just manufacturing shit out of thin air.
The term 'bitch-slap' is often used as a joke and there's never any venom behind it. Telltale aren't using the term 'bitch' (which we all know means female dog in reality) in the context of belittling a woman so there's no need to spew any overly PC bollocks here.
...I still give props for the animation file for Luke hugging Nick being called BroHug though.
It's actually the correct term for a female dog, mind you.
It's a pop-culture phrase which was originally associated with pimps slapping their 'bitches' to keep them in line. So yeah, it's a misogynistic phrase even if the user doesn't intend any misogyny.
Words have meaning. If I said "I'll rape you" as a joke, people would be justified in thinking that was actually a pretty dumb and creepy thing to say.
And it's most often used to denigrate tough women and weak guys, probably because associating them with 'female dogs' is an insult.
Am I the only one not bothered by this? It was probably only meant as a joke.
People constantly take the piss out of each other and make use of phrases and jokes that could otherwise be considered offensive (at least here in Portsmouth, England) but no harm is ever intended from it.
Words have meaning... Exactly. The meaning of language is entirely dependent on the context in which it is used - This particular context being understandable and not even remotely hateful.
I wouldn't exactly be bothered by a programmer's in-joke, but it does call to mind the infamous Playing Dead interview in which the Telltale reps were talking about the "dilemma" of players who hated Sarah being given the chance to hurt her in order to save her, as though that was somehow a bad thing. They also talked about how people at the office "couldn't wait" to get her killed off.
It might seem like an irrelevant joke, but in the context of that poorly done 'interview' it comes across as another indicator of how ill-regarded the character was by Telltale's staff.
Everyone needs to lighten the fuck up lmao. This is funny, TellTale thought it was funny, and it probably did a little part of relieving boredom as they name different files funny things.
Nope. I'm not bothered either. But everyone seems intent on attacking Telltale's every move and convincing themselves that the company is some kind of neo-Nazi, racist, misogynistic, ableist corporation that seeks to kidnap and rape everyone's wives and children.
Probably just meant to be funny to them, but still kind of insensitive, given the circumstances.
Lol at the downvotes. I'm not mad, I just don't find it funny. Either way it's not a big deal.
So you're saying that it was just supposed to be funny, so that means it's not offensive?
So they're trying to be funny by using the phrase "bitch slap" while Clem has an angry face while slapping a helpless girl. How is that anything BUT offensive?
So how does that make it ok? Apparently Telltale thinks it's funny to slap a panicking child. Or am I missing something here?
Ok, so women = dogs. That's not offensive at all.
No, I'm saying this simply isn't offensive. I've never seen anyone ever become flustered by someone using the term bitch-slap. It's just a silly pop-culture phrase describing an exaggerated, forceful slap... It's just... Harmless. I honestly don't understand why people want to initiate crusades over something so trivial.
A misunderstood, vague sentence in a casual IGN interview and the name of a text file used for ALL acts of slapping in the game does not provide any evidence towards Telltale supporting child abuse.
I don't think you're understanding my problem here. In Telltale's Playing Dead interview, they talked about how it was so funny that you have to slap Sarah because so many people wanted to do that so badly, but in order to do that you have to actually save her. That was an offensive thing to say and people defended them from this, "They didn't mean to be offensive, they were just discussing opinions of other people!" This really throws that out the window.
How was it vague? Here are his exact words: "So it's like, 'oh so you wanted to slap her', but in order to do that you had to want her to be around at the same time." And then he laughs.
Well, I don't why it was called "BitchSlap" but you are in a closed room with zombies could break in any second, You're trying to make this girl come but is refusing, you care her survival as much as yours, so when zombies are are breaking through the door, Clem thought " Get the hell up before we die!"
There we go again, twisting my words
Thank you for voicing reason. Barely anyone here has a fucking sense of humor. TOO HATEFUL, SORRY, EDITED OUT A SENTENCE
Maybe some of the people here should devote their time to protesting against real-life acts of mass genocide such as those committed by Israel recently rather than spending hours moaning about how a couple of Telltale devs didn't tussle with Greg Miller or how Telltale named an audio file in an unconventional way because they were bored. I'm fine with constructive criticism that could lead to an improved Season 3 but throwing out wild accusations constantly is really sad and quite frankly irritating. I want to come to this forum and have a good time rather than see people bitching about fuck all.
How did I twist your words?
I'm not saying that I have some huge problem with them using the term in itself. It is in combination with all the other criticism that has come up already that makes it an issue.
No, this doesn't throw that argument out the window... It's still perfectly valid. You know why? Because this slapping file's been in existence since Season 2. It has NOTHING to do with Telltale despising Sarah... That's just ridiculous. Even if this file was only used during the Sarah slap sequence it still wouldn't mean the devs don't care for her. Someone decided to lighten the mood during what would be a dull and repetitive job of programming the audio into the game.
are you people ACTUALLY COMPLAINING over this?
it's a little bit of humour, get the fuck over it. seriously. it's not a big deal. it's a re-used audio file.
I have been arguing that Telltale's attitude toward Sarah this episode was disrespectful. They name the slap a derogatory term, animate Clem to appear angry while doing so, and pointing it out to be funny that the only option to save her is to smack her in the face. Together with the rest of the writing this episode, it is apparent that Telltale's attitude toward Sarah's character in this episode is extremely problematic.