A post about Eddie, and how annoying it was that he was scrapped by TTG (semi-rant)
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So, this post is meant as a big tribute to how awesomely developed Eddie's character is, and how much of a shame it is that he was supposedly scrapped by TellTale.
I mean...he's so human.
He has a crude but funny sense of humor, and he's into weed, but he's really human.
His morals are all fucked up. He's not afraid to attack (asking Wyatt to shoot/shooting at Nate himself), but he doesn't want to leave a human being behind. That shows loyalty, even to those he's never met/just met. I mean, he was so willing to put himself in the position of going out to get the hurt man (even though it was that cowardly fucktard Officer Bennett), that if Wyatt offers, he declines and says it should be him going.
Wyatt and Eddie are such a good friendship that it broke my heart when he was left behind. When he was in the Episode 4 title slide, I was at first interested, then excited, then relieved. I was wondering how he was going to fit into the story and was getting more hyped every day.
And y'know how the title slides sometimes change? Episode 4 didn't! It stayed the same! So there was no reason not to believe he was in the Episode.
I mean, Episode 3 slide changed a bit, and there were some TWAU Episode slides that changed (not sure exactly, correct me if I'm wrong), but Episode 4 never changed.
So then, TrollTale struck when the episode was released. So, my deary TellTale:
Screw off. Getting people hyped for basically nothing is not cool.
Plan ahead next time, TellTale.
Plan ahead for how these things plan out so that you don't mess up and rewrite and do all these things that don't make sense.
Now this may seem like a rush to all you reading, but it's just me ranting. So, support Eddie one last time, bring him some love (and some weed).
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/71936/eddie-for-episode-5-bringbackeddie
Comments
'Shameful' is way too strong.
They felt he didn't fit into the story as it was, for whatever reason. We have to respect their decision.
The slide thing is annoying, yes, but it's not like they sung his presence from the rooftops, posted pictures and strongly hinted at a return on twitter as you make it sound. It was one image.
Most of the hype for it was created by the fans, not telltale, and so we can't really blame them for most of it.
He was a place-holder, nothing more. Doug and Carley were also in the episode slide. I do think that Amid The Ruins was going to feature those shadowy figures in a more prominent role, but I doubt they'd be anyone players would have seen before.
Besides, I expected Nate to return because he was a recurring villain...
Whats with these flower crowns always?
Good point, I'll change it to "annoying".
The only face you could barely see was a guy with a beard.
The only face you could see was a placeholder.
Yup.
They're lovely man.
Don't we have enough of these complaints about episode 4? Besides Eddie can come in Episode 5 because remember Episode Threes slide was Rebbeca giving birth and it happened in episode 4.So why can't he and 400 days characters appear in episode ?
So we're expected to believe some stoner would morph into a creepy guy in a hood? Eddie doesn't strike me as the 'creepy' type, considering his scenario was the most comedic.
If anything, I think the shadowy figures would have represented Arvo's group. Perhaps Arvo himself looked like that at one point.
This isn't a complaint about the episode itself, bro. Not once do I mention the episode besides the slide. 400 days characters and choices have not mattered once this season. Eddie had a chance to return and kind of make some choices matter, but he was discarded.
Well,, you cant tell who it is on the actual shadow. I mean thats the point. He wasnt brightened up and easily visible, place holder like the others, the pictures are made way in advance
I'm kinda surprised people liked Eddie so much.
TBH I think Nate killed him.
I didn't mean episode 4 but meant the slide people expecting Eddie to come back was bs. There would have been spoilers and people would expect the expected.
Morphing?
What?
No, it's wintertime and he's wearing a hood. Look closely, the beards are the same.
ok what? Arvo, at one point, had a beard, and no glasses? Eddie's eyes and the hooded figure's eyes are the same, too.
I'm saying that the character model of Arvo may have once been some creepy guy in a hoodie, before the devs decided to make him a more vulnerable nerdy character.
But the fact that his face can be seen without a brightened means something though.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the shadows were the walkers at the start of the episode. That's why clem has blood on her face and shit.
Yeah I don't get the meme
If you brighten the others you can see its Vince, Carley and Doug
I'm angry, one cuz I love Eddie, and two because they could've easily removed him from the slide at any point but kept him.
Alright then. But why didn't they change the title slide then?
Laziness. I agree that the story implied by the title slide was MUCH more interesting. Clem losing her hat implied that she was losing her ties to her past, and the figures surrounding her while she put on blood made it seem like she was undergoing some kind of ritual or preparing for war.
Imagine if Amid The Ruins was literally about a civil war between Carver's group and the people at Parker's Run.
Well I would want him to be in the next episode but it isn't guranteed.
Not as clearly though. Not nearly as clearly.
He was into weed
Not into drugs
That would've been so much greater.
Or maybe a war between the Russians and our small group.
You're right. Eddie was a gardener, not a toker.
Eddie and Wyatt are literally my favourite characters after Danny and Russel.
Plans can and do change. Eddie may have been planned to return in early drafts when the slides were originally made but was later removed because he no longer fit with the story. What's the point in having Eddie appear if Wyatt had a 5 second cameo in the previous episode and didn't reappear afterward? Same would be true of Nate. What would happen if you didn't even recruit Wyatt in 400 Days? Would Wyatt be dead? Would Wyatt and Eddie be back together somehow? There's too many "what ifs", and ultimately no one would be happy with what Telltale chose. Let's hope if DLC is done for Season 2, Telltale considers more how it will interact with the story and not put in characters who ultimately mean nothing to the story.
Ultimately, how can you really be disappointed by a story that we never even saw? There's no dialogue in the game files for a missing Eddie part suggesting even if he was in early drafts, he never made it to the later stages. People are being disappointed by a "what if" scenario. I doubt Telltale expected people to go so far as to lighten the shadows. People are getting too tech savvy for their own good. People say they don't want spoilers and yet they examine a slide that ultimately didn't even go with the episode for any clue possible. Given that two of the other people in the same slide are Doug and Carley who we all know are dead and another was a bandit who worked with Carver, Eddie was likely never intended to be anything more than a placeholder. Why use a bunch of dead people and then throw in Eddie if they all didn't serve the same purpose? If they put Arvo, Jane, Mike, Rebecca, Kenny, and Luke onto the slide instead, then people would just be complaining that Telltale spoiled part of the story despite the slide not making any sense with the episode.
In the end, perhaps it's better not to look too much into something. It's far too easy these days to get hyped over something only to be disappointed because it didn't turn out like you thought. What you hoped would be a significant role ends up being a 10 second cameo or just a mention. People were excited about the 400 Days characters in Season 2 only for that to fall flat by Episode 4. It's easier to walk in with low expectations. Then if something happens that you liked, you can be happy. Walking in with high expectations only serves to disappoint you because chances are very little of what you expected will actually happen. Telltale isn't the only company who disappoints due to us having too high of expectations and certainly won't be the last.
People are annoyed by the loss of potential because it appears to be laziness.
Fleshing out the roles of the 400 Days survivors in Episode 3, for instance, might have actually provided a more sympathetic and nuanced portrayal of Carver's community than what we ended up having.
It isn't guaranteed, yes, but Nick Breckon might do us good and include him in some way. I'm just hoping because it's implied he was meant to be in Episode 4.
OoOoOh right that HUGE mistake of mine
TellTale had a chance to make 400 days have an impact in any sense whatsoever with Eddie's return, but he was taken away. *Thats why I'm disappointed. Not because of "what ifs" like you're saying. It's laziness on TellTale's part and I'm angry that he wasn't removed or hidden more in the title slide.
Why make 400 days such a big damn deal if they get 10 seconds on-screen? Eddie reappearing could have made choices in Wyatt's story matter more but he was gone.
Weed is a drug..
Exactly.
No one is going to be predictable during a Zombie apocalypse. Meaning everything you knew about that person....throw it all away because they're going to change. That being said, Eddie doesn't strike me as the mysterious type to walk around in hoodies either but people will change for survival.
You never would've known it was Eddie in the episode slide if someone hadn't posted a brightened picture of it in the first place.
If you had not seen that picture, you'd probably be thinking otherwise.