Clem getting shot and baby's fate

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  • Being in a survival situation, they have to pack it to the top with supplies.

    Pride posted: »

    I mean, the bullet would have to go through Bonnie AND her backpack. Who knows what's in that backpack,right?

  • I guess that's what might happen. On Telltales' Twitter, they posted a tweet of Bonnie's picture from the 400 days DLC. Maybe Bonnie took one or more bullets for Clem. Or she did something to save Clem.

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  • I have no interest in a determinant mute Clem that dies in 5 seconds.

    What I want to know is how Telltale plans to proceed with season 3 if they're going to either kill Clem, or make her determinant. Personally speaking, I don't have any interest in starting over from scratch with a brand-new character.

  • Indeed! I'd forgotten about Bonnie's picture there!

    I guess that's what might happen. On Telltales' Twitter, they posted a tweet of Bonnie's picture from the 400 days DLC. Maybe Bonnie took one or more bullets for Clem. Or she did something to save Clem.

  • I don't have a gif of that scene, but during it they're both stepping to the right, alligning perfectly with Clem, with Bonnie moving closer to Clem as things get heated up.

    I didn't find Bonnie covering up Clem, but I did this gif:

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    You can see Maud moving slightly to the left.

    Pride posted: »

    If it's indeed a pistol gunshot, maybe Bonnie acted as some sort of meat shield for Clem? Clem is standing directly behind Bonnie, whom Maud

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    Well, it does seem she's supporting her left arm on her right arm. It looks like it's resting there, somewhat like this?

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    Maybe she does lose movement, like you said? She doesn't have bandages to make a support like that, so she's resting it on her good arm?

    sialark posted: »

    You might be right! I do remember thinking it was very odd how Bonnie and Maud were moving like that, so maybe TT did that on purpose! And t

  • edited August 2014

    Now that you mentioned losing movement in her arm, it does seem she's supporting her left arm on her right arm, doesn't it?. It looks like it's resting there, somewhat like this?

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    Maybe she does lose movement, like you said? She doesn't have bandages to make a support like that, so she's resting it on her good arm?

    JonGon posted: »

    A gunshot wound to an 11 year old would totally make her lose movement in her arm. I think some blood of someone getting shot next to her is more likely.

  • It makes sense considering that she still felt guilty about what happened. Maybe she protects Clem from the bullets as a way of going out like a boss, a final redemption of some sort? Who knows.

    I guess that's what might happen. On Telltales' Twitter, they posted a tweet of Bonnie's picture from the 400 days DLC. Maybe Bonnie took one or more bullets for Clem. Or she did something to save Clem.

  • I try to play like I would in the given situation, and I could never see myself leaving a baby. Especially if it didn't guarantee survival.

    Pride posted: »

    ...I really don't know what I'd do. I don't want Clem to die, but to just leave the baby like that...

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    Thanks for the gif!

    If the timer in the gif ran a bit longer, it would be able to see that Bonnie starts backing up towards Clem as Maud starts moving to the right.

    fallandir posted: »

    I don't have a gif of that scene, but during it they're both stepping to the right, alligning perfectly with Clem, with Bonnie moving closer

  • Does make sense. Or it can also be her huddling up because of the cold. Either way this is getting me worried and hyped!

    Pride posted: »

    Now that you mentioned losing movement in her arm, it does seem she's supporting her left arm on her right arm, doesn't it?. It looks like i

  • Maybe Clementine will get shot, it could someone else's blood. And I can see that choice might be happen. But what tell-tale dose really well is that certain situations make the player choice differently what they would normal do. people here saying they would leave the baby and try to save Clem might choice differently to what is present to them. Not everything in this game series is black and white, there are shades of grey.

  • Or she might be in shock, frozen in place by the pain and the blizzard.

  • She was already bitten on her left arm. Wonder if that's going to come into play...

    JonGon posted: »

    Does make sense. Or it can also be her huddling up because of the cold. Either way this is getting me worried and hyped!

  • If you look closer, it seems closer to her shoulder region. She's hunching over so maybe it just LOOKS like its close to the heart.

  • Well Bonnie mentioned they had baby formula. She was the only one with a backpack of any kind, so I'm guessing it's in there. I bet you she got them from Carver's place; Carver was very excited for the baby after all so I think he was prepping for it.

    Also, the bullet wouldn't have to have gone through the backpack necessarily; it could've grazed Bonnie first or something similar!

    Pride posted: »

    I mean, the bullet would have to go through Bonnie AND her backpack. Who knows what's in that backpack,right?

  • No problem! Here's a little longer one:

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    Pride posted: »

    Thanks for the gif! If the timer in the gif ran a bit longer, it would be able to see that Bonnie starts backing up towards Clem as Maud starts moving to the right.

  • edited August 2014

    Yeah it depends on the angle the bullet went in. If it came from Maud's direction, it would've gone in through her chest but would've been going in the direction of her left armpit, not close to her heart or her lungs.

    If you look closer, it seems closer to her shoulder region. She's hunching over so maybe it just LOOKS like its close to the heart.

  • i mean i'm no Doctor, but if Clem got shot exactly where that Blood Spot is.... that's directly to her left lung.... lol. That'd cause it to collapse and die :( so i'm sure thats someone else's blood

  • That's a pretty dangerous place to get shot. If she's not coughing blood from a damaged lung (which is lethal without pre-apocaliptic attention, I think), she's bleeding internally from a severed axillary artery (although she'd be dead in a few minutes, tops; I think again). But, then again, getting shot in TWD is not like getting shot in real life...

  • If she had been shot in the lung she'd be having a lot of trouble breathing. She clearly isn't in the trailer.

    i mean i'm no Doctor, but if Clem got shot exactly where that Blood Spot is.... that's directly to her left lung.... lol. That'd cause it to collapse and die so i'm sure thats someone else's blood

  • From the angle Maud is aiming at her, and with Bonnie possibly serving as a shield, could there be a chance of the bullet not harming the lung?
    Maybe it went in kind of sideways, or stopped at the ribcage because of the loss momentum if it went through Bonnie first?

    i mean i'm no Doctor, but if Clem got shot exactly where that Blood Spot is.... that's directly to her left lung.... lol. That'd cause it to collapse and die so i'm sure thats someone else's blood

  • Yeah, it'll probably be like how long actors can hold their breathe underwater

    That's a pretty dangerous place to get shot. If she's not coughing blood from a damaged lung (which is lethal without pre-apocaliptic attent

  • So according to entertainment cliches, Clem's going to live

    Yeah, it'll probably be like how long actors can hold their breathe underwater

  • Maybe the bullet hit her arm and the blood is soaking on the jacket

    sialark posted: »

    Yeah it depends on the angle the bullet went in. If it came from Maud's direction, it would've gone in through her chest but would've been going in the direction of her left armpit, not close to her heart or her lungs.

  • telltale: Spoiler free!!!!

    My ass

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    Isn't that the spot that the babies head is touching in the promo art?! Maybe something happens to the baby while she's' holding It, like he dies and turns while she is holding , him and then he bites her! ZABIE? Or maybe im reading too much into it :/

    Pride posted: »

    What do you think it could be? It seems too dark to be baby vomit...the baby isn't there either... and it's too round to be a blood spatter from someone else. Will the baby cough blood onto her jacket as she's carrying him or something? o_o

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    I made a map a few weeks ago for my own, personal deductions. You may find it useful. I'll just leave it here.

  • If the baby does become a walker it wouldnt have the teeth to bite her.

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    Well, Maud, Bonnie and Clem are almost in a straight line according to this. Seems possible.

    I made a map a few weeks ago for my own, personal deductions. You may find it useful. I'll just leave it here.

  • I don't doubt she's bleeding internally. But maybe she can hold on long enough to get to Wellington or somewhere that can help?

    That's a pretty dangerous place to get shot. If she's not coughing blood from a damaged lung (which is lethal without pre-apocaliptic attent

  • Seems like Luke would be fine in that case. He's only got Arvo to worry about and Arvo's unarmed.

    Mike's taking a shotgun blast to the face :(

    Kenny's getting the full power of Buricko's AK-47...

    I made a map a few weeks ago for my own, personal deductions. You may find it useful. I'll just leave it here.

  • edited August 2014

    Doesn't Clem move a bit further, like between Bonnie and Kenny by the time she has to decide to shoot Rebecca? She seems to be really close to her.

    The rest is spot on, good job!

    I made a map a few weeks ago for my own, personal deductions. You may find it useful. I'll just leave it here.

  • edited August 2014

    Everyone Is Going To Save Clem!

    99.99% Of People And You Saved Clem

    00.1% Of People Saved The Baby

    I may sound like a complete bastard here but If given the choice I'd always go with Clementine. The little girl that I practically raised throughout the zombie apocalypse isn't going to die like that. Even if it means having to leave the baby.

  • edited August 2014

    She seems to be positioned here when the prompt to shoot Rebecca comes up:

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    Pride posted: »

    Doesn't Clem move a bit further, like between Bonnie and Kenny by the time she has to decide to shoot Rebecca? She seems to be really close to her. The rest is spot on, good job!

  • True, plus her jacket doesn't look like it has rips in it or anything, I got a little carried away with my train of thought. Plus now that I think about it, is it even possible for the baby to turn? I don't know how viruses work, so I don't know if Rebecca could have transmitted it to her son.

    Lee4ever posted: »

    If the baby does become a walker it wouldnt have the teeth to bite her.

  • I think Buricko is further to the right, just below Rebecca, because he shifts forwards a bit later in the standoff.

    Pride posted: »

    She seems to be positioned here when the prompt to shoot Rebecca comes up:

  • our choices in the final episode will decide Clementine's fate

    Fate doesn't necessarily mean life or death. It could be what kind of person she is at the end of all of this.

    Pride posted: »

    Well, they did say our choices in the final episode will decide Clementine's fate. It doesn't sound like she'll be the main character in season 3.

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    To be fair, it's almost impossible to escape that without even a scratch. I expected her to be injured.

    "Spoiler free trailer!" Shows Clementine shot

  • Clem looks all alone so Kenny, Luke, Bonnie, and Mike are pretty much confirmed dead at this point. Unless TTG edited them out for spoiler reasons.

    Most likely the latter. For writing purposes, it would be poor for them to kill off all characters straight away without proper closure to their defined character arcs. There's been no resolution to Luke and Kenny's rivalry, for example. Also, this game is very dialogue-heavy, so we would have nobody to talk to if it were just the baby.

    If you take the baby and Clem dies, how would the baby survive? There's a massive snow storm going on, walkers, and now Clem is dead. The

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