We can't really come to conclusions based off of the concept art. However this time I honestly see Kenny dying. Only because its the end of this season and so many things could go potentially wrong in this episode.
The new trailer was careful to hide any spoilers at all and all we have seen are photos of Clem...alone. Could be they want to scare us to make us think she's alone and everyone else died, she could have been told to run or she ran on her own with the child, or she is the only survivor.
By colorful, you mean black and white, right? he doesn't add "colour" he only has two emotions, slightly happy and pissed off at everyone. H… moree seems to think he's #1 and everyone should pay attention to him, just cause he's some douchebag from Florida. I really really hope he dies in the finale rather than telltale coping out again and forcing him to survive in fear of losing money from some kenny fanboys.
I also wish he isn't badly injured. I don't want episode time wasted on babysitting him.
If you mean: "Telltale killing Kenny off would be a cheap move; and would really diminish the quality of the game," I totally agree.
They already killed off Lee, whom it seems was a general favorite among players.
They Killed off Carly, who was a determinate character, and they did they same to Ben, Alvin, Sarah and Nick.
Seems like determinate characters are going to die no matter what.
It would be nice if we have a determinate character to save, that he/she actually survives.
If Mike and Bonnie become determinate characters in episode 5, it would be nice if they actually live, so that saving in the 1st place, doesn't feel like a wasted effort.
It would be a nice change!
@Kenny/Lee There's a point where babysitting him get's a chore and annoying. Considering in my game, I didn't agree with him killing a man, and this meant for the rest of the game he treated me like shit and refused to help me with Molly and at the drug store, youcan see why I don't like him. Kenny fans seem to have this mentality of we SHOULD agree with him because THEY like him and do the same. But I'm not changing my moral's and character and MY opinions cause Kenny "might" be a different person if I kiss his ass, cause what sort of person does that?
I did not agree with Kenny on everything.
I did save duck at Herschel's.
I stood up to Larry, on Duck's behalf.
I helped Kenny kill Larry.
And I euthanized Duck, so Kenny did not have to.
However, I did not necessarily agree with Kenny about the boat.
And after Vernon stole ours, I voted for getting out into the countryside.
And with the boy in the attic, I helped Kenny do what needed to be done.
I also disagreed about Ben.
I refused to kick him out of the group.
And I later saved him, even though Kenny objected, though considering Ben killed his family, I can't really blame Kenny for wanting Ben dead.
And even after these disagreements, when Clementine went missing, Kenny jumped at the chance to help find her; refusing to let Lee go off by himself, even though I had Lee volunteer to do so.
So I didn't sacrifice my humanity.
And I don't believe Kenny has either.
I think Kenny STILL has his humanity, and it's evident by the way he still looks after Clementine, and how far he's gone to protect her.
As well as his concern for the baby.
But I still made my own choices and decisions, based on my conscious.
Even though I agreed with Kenny most of the time, I still held firm to what I believed to be the right thing.
I did not, "kiss Kenny's ass."
No disrespect intended.
And to answer your question: "What kind of person kisses another's ass?"
Only someone who is spineless.
Or is to worried about how others may view him if he disagrees, or stands up for himself, afraid that others might see him as a jerk.
That's the ONLY kind of person who does that.
@Senrain Mistake noted.. xD
@Kenny/Lee There's a point where babysitting him get's a chore and annoying. Considering in my game, I didn'… moret agree with him killing a man, and this meant for the rest of the game he treated me like shit and refused to help me with Molly and at the drug store, youcan see why I don't like him. Kenny fans seem to have this mentality of we SHOULD agree with him because THEY like him and do the same. But I'm not changing my moral's and character and MY opinions cause Kenny "might" be a different person if I kiss his ass, cause what sort of person does that?
@Everyone'sCleminTime Thank you man.
I see what you're saying. I 100% agree with you that Kenny has added alot to the game and it wouldn't have been the same without him, so i think he is a great character in the sense that he has had alot of character development and to some degree a relatable backstory. I personaly do not like him as a person as he has annoyed be one too many times for my liking, however i do acknowledge the fact that he has added a lot to the story.
I respectfully disagree.
Next to Lee, I think Kenny is one of the best characters in TWD.
Lee and Kenny are my favorites.
I don't mind … morehelping him, and encouraging him when he needs it.
In my opinion, he adds a lot to the game, and he is a strong leader for the group.
Then I don't really see what I did wrong. After not agreeing with him killing Larry is when things spiralled for the worst.
I tried being nice to him, only for him to immedaitly get childish and angry with me. During the raid to the drug store and what in the carriage when duck was getting sicker.
He got even more pissed off at me for saving Ben.
He then was presented as a changed man in season 2, and I thought he woudn't give a little child shit in season 2.
Oh boy was I wrong, he still clung to the belief that someone he loved could be saved from a zombie bite after two years and gave a little child shit for doing the right thing, or even more unreasonabley, giving her shit for not cutting off her hand.
So no, in my playthrough, he didn't care for clementine, I'm not wasting my time trying to convince an arsehole why saving a little child is the right to do, nor am I going to appeal to his needs to get a nice response out of him, it's a zombie apocalypse, you're all in this together, or you go on your own..
I did not agree with Kenny on everything.
I did save duck at Herschel's.
I stood up to Larry, on Duck's behalf.
I helped Kenny kill Larry… more.
And I euthanized Duck, so Kenny did not have to.
However, I did not necessarily agree with Kenny about the boat.
And after Vernon stole ours, I voted for getting out into the countryside.
And with the boy in the attic, I helped Kenny do what needed to be done.
I also disagreed about Ben.
I refused to kick him out of the group.
And I later saved him, even though Kenny objected, though considering Ben killed his family, I can't really blame Kenny for wanting Ben dead.
And even after these disagreements, when Clementine went missing, Kenny jumped at the chance to help find her; refusing to let Lee go off by himself, even though I had Lee volunteer to do so.
So I didn't sacrifice my humanity.
And I don't believe Kenny has either.
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Just curious, what did you say to him, as Lee, in the Rv when it was discovered Duck had been bit, and then later on the train when the kid ran out out of time?
Then I don't really see what I did wrong. After not agreeing with him killing Larry is when things spiralled for the worst.
I tried being n… moreice to him, only for him to immedaitly get childish and angry with me. During the raid to the drug store and what in the carriage when duck was getting sicker.
He got even more pissed off at me for saving Ben.
He then was presented as a changed man in season 2, and I thought he woudn't give a little child shit in season 2.
Oh boy was I wrong, he still clung to the belief that someone he loved could be saved from a zombie bite after two years and gave a little child shit for doing the right thing, or even more unreasonabley, giving her shit for not cutting off her hand.
So no, in my playthrough, he didn't care for clementine, I'm not wasting my time trying to convince an arsehole why saving a little child is the right to do, nor am I going to appeal to his needs to get a nice response out of him, it's a zombie apocalypse, you're all in this together, or you go on your own..
I see what you're saying. I 100% agree with you that Kenny has added alot to the game and it wouldn't have been the same without him, so i t… morehink he is a great character in the sense that he has had alot of character development and to some degree a relatable backstory. I personaly do not like him as a person as he has annoyed be one too many times for my liking, however i do acknowledge the fact that he has added a lot to the story.
I'll admit I admire his character and what he had to offer to the story in Season 1 even if I'm not a big fan of Kenny as a person, and I can understand why he would be popular among fans due to his pragmatism, his 'bro' friendship between him and Lee, his determination to survive even after his family and his boat quest all fall apart. And finally his sacrifice in both the Ben and Christa scenario, both were a well written send off for Kenny and had ended in a satisfying arc, especially since there was a chance for him to survive in both cases.
...Then comes his return in Season 2, and that's when I believe that Telltale is starting to take Kenny's most prominent character traits a little too far, to the point where I just get sick and tired of him. Don't get me wrong, I didn't detest the moment I laid my eyes on him again, his reintroduction in Episode 2 was written well and I was happy to finally see a credible interaction between Clem and Kenny, since they barely interacted in Season 1 to my surprise. Again, I wasn't a big fan of Kenny, but I tolerated him.
And of course, Episode 3 and 4 is when I realised that Telltale likes Kenny a little too much over the other characters in Season 2 and started rehashing his old story arc to keep the dynamic going with his character traits (losing his partner once again, getting depressed and angry at his friends again, being obsessed over a goal/character again, Kenny vs X again). Sure there's a little twist on each of his rehashed story arcs seeing how he's slowly starting to lose his mind with grief and anger over the apocalypse, but when it starts to overshadow other characters who have their own stories to tell and are killed before their time to shine, that's when I believe that Telltale clearly cares about the more popular characters than the underdogs.
And if he survives Season 2 (hopefully not with another fake-sacrifice to go with the collection of rehashed story arcs), what is left for him to do in Season 3? Find another partner so she will once again die for his grief? Have the baby die so he will find another obsession to cling onto? Have him lose a limb to match his damaged eye? Force another Kenny vs X so we can all argue instead of trying to connect with each other?
I honestly can't see what else Telltale can do with Kenny at this point on, which is why I would rather he leaves the story in peace at some form (either by dying or by leaving the cast on his own).
He has nearly two full season to himself, and anymore will just simply drag his character further to the ground until he becomes a walking stereotype and clichés. I think it's time for him to rest while he has his dignity intact.
Personally I feel like Kenny shouldn't have even been in season 2 at all.
I thought Kenny was a great character in season 1 and my Lee got on with him well, but I feel like bringing back a character from a past season feels a little too much like wishful writing. What are the chances that of all the people Clementine could have come across at the lodge, it would be somebody she knew? It felt too much like Kenny was dropped into season 2 for the fans rather than for the story.
Now, that being said, I still have enjoyed the Kenny moments in season 2 but I feel like Telltale have their own favourite character and are focusing too much on his storyline rather than anybody elses. I feel like the two seasons should have been kept separately, (Christa and Omid scenes fine in season 2 as they fit) and Kenny's chapter should have finished in season 1. The scene where he sacrifices himself should have been his final scene, and although I may have been a little sad that I'd get no more Kenny scenes, I would rather sit and wonder what might have become of him, rather than have him dropped into a new story where he doesn't belong.
Season 2 should have focused on the new group and built up their storylines cough Nick cough rather than focusing on Kenny. I for one find it a strange choice for the story, as even though Kenny and Clem knew each other, Kenny was Lee's friend, not Clementines, and suddenly in season 2 we're expected to treat Kenny as a long lost buddy: it just doesn't make sense.
Furthermore, I don't think they should bring Christa back either; although I really liked Christa, it would be a little too convenient for her to show up (especially after we've already found Kenny) since the cabin group are now miles and miles away from where Clem and Christa initially lost each other. I'd rather leave past characters in the past thank you.
As to Kenny's fate, I feel like his time is almost up. Yes I'll be sad if he dies, but at least it'll shift Telltale's focus to writing better storylines for new characters, without making the same mistakes cough Nick cough instead or reviving old ones.7210
Personally, I do want to be rid of Kenny, I don't think he adds much to the story - the way I see it he's actually taking away screentime from other characters (who we barely know yet, when compared to Kenny). Nor is he truly helpful toward the group: he cares exclusively about the baby right now (did you see how quickly he shot Rebecca?). Much like many other people around here, my distaste for his personality started back in 102 when he leaves Lee for dead for the first time just because you chose not to support him, and it grew every time he did it again, then finally became somewhat of a hatred feeling when he refused to help rescue Clementine.
Yes, killing Larry was a tough call and perhaps he was in the right in the end, but that does not justify leaving a member of the group who's looking after a small child to be shot in the head if you were able to help.
I'll try not to be too biased now, but I believe Kenny is, indeed, going to die in the finale. The reason for that is that it would be WAY too cliche to pull off another "Kenny loses a loved one and starts losing his shit" yet another time with the baby. Considering that, I think he's going to die before the baby does, and bearing in mind they're in the middle of a blizzard, I don't think the baby will be able to stay alive for too long.
I hope not, he's the only interesting character besides Clem. I really don't see why there is all the Kenny hatred.
Id like to see any of you haters going through what Kenny went through. And then have them confront with the little girl who just killed your girlfriend after your entire family died, that girlfriend kept you going, the only bit of hope left in your life taken away from you by this little girl. And you wont be a bit pissed? I thought he was quite a nice guy just venting his rage properly, im sure most of you wouldn't be so lenient. I know i wouldn't be.
Complaining about his grieving and his angry nature in the situation... Cmon... Really...?
Only interesting character beyond clem in your opinion*.
And really? You don't see how a highly controversial character who can leave both Lee and Clem to die in season 1 and has murdered people is hated by some people? Seriously?
You do know Kenny does stuff people don't like when he ISN'T mourning right? Like, leaving Lee to die in episode 3 if you didn't help him kill Larry?
I hope not, he's the only interesting character besides Clem. I really don't see why there is all the Kenny hatred.
Id like to see any of… more you haters going through what Kenny went through. And then have them confront with the little girl who just killed your girlfriend after your entire family died, that girlfriend kept you going, the only bit of hope left in your life taken away from you by this little girl. And you wont be a bit pissed? I thought he was quite a nice guy just venting his rage properly, im sure most of you wouldn't be so lenient. I know i wouldn't be.
Complaining about his grieving and his angry nature in the situation... Cmon... Really...?
I misspoke, the only interesting character left. I liked Nick and Jane. Luke isn't doing it for me, Bonnie is fine but we don't know her yet, Mike same deal.
And yeah, Kenny can be a dick, and he has done some bad stuff in s1, that is the kind of anger i understand from haters. But i was referring to the s2 hate. He hasn't really done anything wrong in s2. Except yell at Clementine.
But yeah, people talking about s1 have a point. I just chose my playthrough to have Kenny loyal to me. So he wont let Lee or Clem die.
I agreed with Kenny on killing Larry. Terrible as it was. And yes Kenny will be an asshole if you don't agree with him there. And i can't defend that.
Only interesting character beyond clem in your opinion*.
And really? You don't see how a highly controversial character who can leave bot… moreh Lee and Clem to die in season 1 and has murdered people is hated by some people? Seriously?
You do know Kenny does stuff people don't like when he ISN'T mourning right? Like, leaving Lee to die in episode 3 if you didn't help him kill Larry?
The only interesting character left in your opinion*.
I can see why people might not like him in season 2. He's very rude to Luke for no real reason in episode 2, the way he killed Carver was brutal and arguably immoral, and so people can dislike him for that.
And Kenny as a character isn't just season 2 Kenny. He's still the same man who's done the same stuff. So it's not hard to understand why not everyone is obsessed with him.
Just because Kenny was nice to YOU on YOUR playthrough doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that he leaves Lee to die in the majority of playthroughs, and initially refuses to help save clem in the majority of playthroughs as well.
I misspoke, the only interesting character left. I liked Nick and Jane. Luke isn't doing it for me, Bonnie is fine but we don't know her yet… more, Mike same deal.
And yeah, Kenny can be a dick, and he has done some bad stuff in s1, that is the kind of anger i understand from haters. But i was referring to the s2 hate. He hasn't really done anything wrong in s2. Except yell at Clementine.
But yeah, people talking about s1 have a point. I just chose my playthrough to have Kenny loyal to me. So he wont let Lee or Clem die.
I agreed with Kenny on killing Larry. Terrible as it was. And yes Kenny will be an asshole if you don't agree with him there. And i can't defend that.
The only interesting character left in your opinion*.
I can see why people might not like him in season 2. He's very rude to Luke for no … morereal reason in episode 2, the way he killed Carver was brutal and arguably immoral, and so people can dislike him for that.
And Kenny as a character isn't just season 2 Kenny. He's still the same man who's done the same stuff. So it's not hard to understand why not everyone is obsessed with him.
Just because Kenny was nice to YOU on YOUR playthrough doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that he leaves Lee to die in the majority of playthroughs, and initially refuses to help save clem in the majority of playthroughs as well.
Flog, give it a rest already. Some of us simply don't want to see Kenny go. If it's Kenny's "time," we can deal with it, but you don't have to constantly berate anyone who might feel differently from you about the character.
The only interesting character left in your opinion*.
I can see why people might not like him in season 2. He's very rude to Luke for no … morereal reason in episode 2, the way he killed Carver was brutal and arguably immoral, and so people can dislike him for that.
And Kenny as a character isn't just season 2 Kenny. He's still the same man who's done the same stuff. So it's not hard to understand why not everyone is obsessed with him.
Just because Kenny was nice to YOU on YOUR playthrough doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that he leaves Lee to die in the majority of playthroughs, and initially refuses to help save clem in the majority of playthroughs as well.
I misspoke, the only interesting character left. I liked Nick and Jane. Luke isn't doing it for me, Bonnie is fine but we don't know her yet… more, Mike same deal.
And yeah, Kenny can be a dick, and he has done some bad stuff in s1, that is the kind of anger i understand from haters. But i was referring to the s2 hate. He hasn't really done anything wrong in s2. Except yell at Clementine.
But yeah, people talking about s1 have a point. I just chose my playthrough to have Kenny loyal to me. So he wont let Lee or Clem die.
I agreed with Kenny on killing Larry. Terrible as it was. And yes Kenny will be an asshole if you don't agree with him there. And i can't defend that.
Not once do I say that people are wrong to want him to stay alive here, please don't put words in my mouth.
And, I'm not berating him for liking him. I'm pointing out why SOME people DON'T.
All I'm saying is that it's fine for people to dislike Kenny, and understandable. It's fine that he likes him, I never say it's not. I just say that he isn't for everybody.
He was expressing confusion as to why some people hate Kenny for his actions in season 2. I told him why, and he respected my point.
I did NOT say that he should feel the same way that they do. He was confused, I gave him information to alleviate said confusion. That is all.
Flog, give it a rest already. Some of us simply don't want to see Kenny go. If it's Kenny's "time," we can deal with it, but you don't have to constantly berate anyone who might feel differently from you about the character.
I think its pretty much a given
I mean he survived 10 episodes had sooo much character development
its time even though he is one of my favourite characters after Clem and Lee
I forget what I said in the RV, but I think I was attempting to draw attention to bite.. something about giving them time? I know His wife thanked me, for what I said.
On the train, I simply showed him the bloody hankercheif. Maybe he's mad cause I beat his ass. :P
Just curious, what did you say to him, as Lee, in the Rv when it was discovered Duck had been bit, and then later on the train when the kid ran out out of time?
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Nah, sorry Flog. 3 or 4 people already? This shit is getting too serious for me. I'm out. Instead I'll.. I'll... loiter.
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We can't really come to conclusions based off of the concept art. However this time I honestly see Kenny dying. Only because its the end of this season and so many things could go potentially wrong in this episode.
Moustache ? You are still alive ?! I'm the new protector of Kenny. What a hard job...
The new trailer was careful to hide any spoilers at all and all we have seen are photos of Clem...alone. Could be they want to scare us to make us think she's alone and everyone else died, she could have been told to run or she ran on her own with the child, or she is the only survivor.
Kenny is from Florida.
If you mean: "Telltale killing Kenny off would be a cheap move; and would really diminish the quality of the game," I totally agree.
They already killed off Lee, whom it seems was a general favorite among players.
They Killed off Carly, who was a determinate character, and they did they same to Ben, Alvin, Sarah and Nick.
Seems like determinate characters are going to die no matter what.
It would be nice if we have a determinate character to save, that he/she actually survives.
If Mike and Bonnie become determinate characters in episode 5, it would be nice if they actually live, so that saving in the 1st place, doesn't feel like a wasted effort.
It would be a nice change!
Until I see a body, Kenny isn't dead. I made that mistake last season and am not going to make it a second time!
@Senrain Mistake noted.. xD
@Kenny/Lee There's a point where babysitting him get's a chore and annoying. Considering in my game, I didn't agree with him killing a man, and this meant for the rest of the game he treated me like shit and refused to help me with Molly and at the drug store, youcan see why I don't like him. Kenny fans seem to have this mentality of we SHOULD agree with him because THEY like him and do the same. But I'm not changing my moral's and character and MY opinions cause Kenny "might" be a different person if I kiss his ass, cause what sort of person does that?
@Everyone'sCleminTime Thank you man.
I did not agree with Kenny on everything.
I did save duck at Herschel's.
I stood up to Larry, on Duck's behalf.
I helped Kenny kill Larry.
And I euthanized Duck, so Kenny did not have to.
However, I did not necessarily agree with Kenny about the boat.
And after Vernon stole ours, I voted for getting out into the countryside.
And with the boy in the attic, I helped Kenny do what needed to be done.
I also disagreed about Ben.
I refused to kick him out of the group.
And I later saved him, even though Kenny objected, though considering Ben killed his family, I can't really blame Kenny for wanting Ben dead.
And even after these disagreements, when Clementine went missing, Kenny jumped at the chance to help find her; refusing to let Lee go off by himself, even though I had Lee volunteer to do so.
So I didn't sacrifice my humanity.
And I don't believe Kenny has either.
I think Kenny STILL has his humanity, and it's evident by the way he still looks after Clementine, and how far he's gone to protect her.
As well as his concern for the baby.
But I still made my own choices and decisions, based on my conscious.
Even though I agreed with Kenny most of the time, I still held firm to what I believed to be the right thing.
I did not, "kiss Kenny's ass."
No disrespect intended.
And to answer your question: "What kind of person kisses another's ass?"
Only someone who is spineless.
Or is to worried about how others may view him if he disagrees, or stands up for himself, afraid that others might see him as a jerk.
That's the ONLY kind of person who does that.
I see what you're saying. I 100% agree with you that Kenny has added alot to the game and it wouldn't have been the same without him, so i think he is a great character in the sense that he has had alot of character development and to some degree a relatable backstory. I personaly do not like him as a person as he has annoyed be one too many times for my liking, however i do acknowledge the fact that he has added a lot to the story.
Then I don't really see what I did wrong. After not agreeing with him killing Larry is when things spiralled for the worst.
I tried being nice to him, only for him to immedaitly get childish and angry with me. During the raid to the drug store and what in the carriage when duck was getting sicker.
He got even more pissed off at me for saving Ben.
He then was presented as a changed man in season 2, and I thought he woudn't give a little child shit in season 2.
Oh boy was I wrong, he still clung to the belief that someone he loved could be saved from a zombie bite after two years and gave a little child shit for doing the right thing, or even more unreasonabley, giving her shit for not cutting off her hand.
So no, in my playthrough, he didn't care for clementine, I'm not wasting my time trying to convince an arsehole why saving a little child is the right to do, nor am I going to appeal to his needs to get a nice response out of him, it's a zombie apocalypse, you're all in this together, or you go on your own..
Just curious, what did you say to him, as Lee, in the Rv when it was discovered Duck had been bit, and then later on the train when the kid ran out out of time?
Even though we have different opinions on Kenny, as regards to our liking of him, I still thank you.
Personally, I think it's time for Kenny to go.
Now before anyone gives me grief, hear me out.
I'll admit I admire his character and what he had to offer to the story in Season 1 even if I'm not a big fan of Kenny as a person, and I can understand why he would be popular among fans due to his pragmatism, his 'bro' friendship between him and Lee, his determination to survive even after his family and his boat quest all fall apart. And finally his sacrifice in both the Ben and Christa scenario, both were a well written send off for Kenny and had ended in a satisfying arc, especially since there was a chance for him to survive in both cases.
...Then comes his return in Season 2, and that's when I believe that Telltale is starting to take Kenny's most prominent character traits a little too far, to the point where I just get sick and tired of him. Don't get me wrong, I didn't detest the moment I laid my eyes on him again, his reintroduction in Episode 2 was written well and I was happy to finally see a credible interaction between Clem and Kenny, since they barely interacted in Season 1 to my surprise. Again, I wasn't a big fan of Kenny, but I tolerated him.
And of course, Episode 3 and 4 is when I realised that Telltale likes Kenny a little too much over the other characters in Season 2 and started rehashing his old story arc to keep the dynamic going with his character traits (losing his partner once again, getting depressed and angry at his friends again, being obsessed over a goal/character again, Kenny vs X again). Sure there's a little twist on each of his rehashed story arcs seeing how he's slowly starting to lose his mind with grief and anger over the apocalypse, but when it starts to overshadow other characters who have their own stories to tell and are killed before their time to shine, that's when I believe that Telltale clearly cares about the more popular characters than the underdogs.
And if he survives Season 2 (hopefully not with another fake-sacrifice to go with the collection of rehashed story arcs), what is left for him to do in Season 3? Find another partner so she will once again die for his grief? Have the baby die so he will find another obsession to cling onto? Have him lose a limb to match his damaged eye? Force another Kenny vs X so we can all argue instead of trying to connect with each other?
I honestly can't see what else Telltale can do with Kenny at this point on, which is why I would rather he leaves the story in peace at some form (either by dying or by leaving the cast on his own).
He has nearly two full season to himself, and anymore will just simply drag his character further to the ground until he becomes a walking stereotype and clichés. I think it's time for him to rest while he has his dignity intact.
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Personally I feel like Kenny shouldn't have even been in season 2 at all.
I thought Kenny was a great character in season 1 and my Lee got on with him well, but I feel like bringing back a character from a past season feels a little too much like wishful writing. What are the chances that of all the people Clementine could have come across at the lodge, it would be somebody she knew? It felt too much like Kenny was dropped into season 2 for the fans rather than for the story.
Now, that being said, I still have enjoyed the Kenny moments in season 2 but I feel like Telltale have their own favourite character and are focusing too much on his storyline rather than anybody elses. I feel like the two seasons should have been kept separately, (Christa and Omid scenes fine in season 2 as they fit) and Kenny's chapter should have finished in season 1. The scene where he sacrifices himself should have been his final scene, and although I may have been a little sad that I'd get no more Kenny scenes, I would rather sit and wonder what might have become of him, rather than have him dropped into a new story where he doesn't belong.
Season 2 should have focused on the new group and built up their storylines cough Nick cough rather than focusing on Kenny. I for one find it a strange choice for the story, as even though Kenny and Clem knew each other, Kenny was Lee's friend, not Clementines, and suddenly in season 2 we're expected to treat Kenny as a long lost buddy: it just doesn't make sense.
Furthermore, I don't think they should bring Christa back either; although I really liked Christa, it would be a little too convenient for her to show up (especially after we've already found Kenny) since the cabin group are now miles and miles away from where Clem and Christa initially lost each other. I'd rather leave past characters in the past thank you.
As to Kenny's fate, I feel like his time is almost up. Yes I'll be sad if he dies, but at least it'll shift Telltale's focus to writing better storylines for new characters, without making the same mistakes cough Nick cough instead or reviving old ones.7210
Personally, I do want to be rid of Kenny, I don't think he adds much to the story - the way I see it he's actually taking away screentime from other characters (who we barely know yet, when compared to Kenny). Nor is he truly helpful toward the group: he cares exclusively about the baby right now (did you see how quickly he shot Rebecca?). Much like many other people around here, my distaste for his personality started back in 102 when he leaves Lee for dead for the first time just because you chose not to support him, and it grew every time he did it again, then finally became somewhat of a hatred feeling when he refused to help rescue Clementine.
Yes, killing Larry was a tough call and perhaps he was in the right in the end, but that does not justify leaving a member of the group who's looking after a small child to be shot in the head if you were able to help.
I'll try not to be too biased now, but I believe Kenny is, indeed, going to die in the finale. The reason for that is that it would be WAY too cliche to pull off another "Kenny loses a loved one and starts losing his shit" yet another time with the baby. Considering that, I think he's going to die before the baby does, and bearing in mind they're in the middle of a blizzard, I don't think the baby will be able to stay alive for too long.
I still love him:)
I still don't
Hey if he didn't save lee in episode 1 clem wouldn't probably be alive
And if he had been successful in leaving my Lee to die in episode 3, Clem also probably wouldn't be alive.
No Telltale don't kill of Kenny
I made this just for you Flog. (the lack of beard in no way indicates I made this before I even knew who you were. Just for you!)
That's...quite terrifying
I hope not, he's the only interesting character besides Clem. I really don't see why there is all the Kenny hatred.
Id like to see any of you haters going through what Kenny went through. And then have them confront with the little girl who just killed your girlfriend after your entire family died, that girlfriend kept you going, the only bit of hope left in your life taken away from you by this little girl. And you wont be a bit pissed? I thought he was quite a nice guy just venting his rage properly, im sure most of you wouldn't be so lenient. I know i wouldn't be.
Complaining about his grieving and his angry nature in the situation... Cmon... Really...?
Only interesting character beyond clem in your opinion*.
And really? You don't see how a highly controversial character who can leave both Lee and Clem to die in season 1 and has murdered people is hated by some people? Seriously?
You do know Kenny does stuff people don't like when he ISN'T mourning right? Like, leaving Lee to die in episode 3 if you didn't help him kill Larry?
I misspoke, the only interesting character left. I liked Nick and Jane. Luke isn't doing it for me, Bonnie is fine but we don't know her yet, Mike same deal.
And yeah, Kenny can be a dick, and he has done some bad stuff in s1, that is the kind of anger i understand from haters. But i was referring to the s2 hate. He hasn't really done anything wrong in s2. Except yell at Clementine.
But yeah, people talking about s1 have a point. I just chose my playthrough to have Kenny loyal to me. So he wont let Lee or Clem die.
I agreed with Kenny on killing Larry. Terrible as it was. And yes Kenny will be an asshole if you don't agree with him there. And i can't defend that.
The only interesting character left in your opinion*.
I can see why people might not like him in season 2. He's very rude to Luke for no real reason in episode 2, the way he killed Carver was brutal and arguably immoral, and so people can dislike him for that.
And Kenny as a character isn't just season 2 Kenny. He's still the same man who's done the same stuff. So it's not hard to understand why not everyone is obsessed with him.
Just because Kenny was nice to YOU on YOUR playthrough doesn't mean we should ignore the fact that he leaves Lee to die in the majority of playthroughs, and initially refuses to help save clem in the majority of playthroughs as well.
You make a solid point
. Sorry for the late reply, i was needed elsewhere :P
If he would not take Carvers beating instead of Clementine Clem would most like be dead. Or in a really bad shape.
Me too man, me too...
But if he had been successful in killing lee, or if him refusing to save clem meant she died, he would never be able to do that.
We can't ignore everything he's done when that's exactly what we're discussing.
Flog, give it a rest already. Some of us simply don't want to see Kenny go. If it's Kenny's "time," we can deal with it, but you don't have to constantly berate anyone who might feel differently from you about the character.
I hope not.. Will his mental state lead to his downfall or will he pull through... I don't know..
I like Booster Mike. He seems to have his shit together.
Not once do I say that people are wrong to want him to stay alive here, please don't put words in my mouth.
And, I'm not berating him for liking him. I'm pointing out why SOME people DON'T.
All I'm saying is that it's fine for people to dislike Kenny, and understandable. It's fine that he likes him, I never say it's not. I just say that he isn't for everybody.
He was expressing confusion as to why some people hate Kenny for his actions in season 2. I told him why, and he respected my point.
I did NOT say that he should feel the same way that they do. He was confused, I gave him information to alleviate said confusion. That is all.
I think its pretty much a given
I mean he survived 10 episodes had sooo much character development
its time even though he is one of my favourite characters after Clem and Lee
I forget what I said in the RV, but I think I was attempting to draw attention to bite.. something about giving them time? I know His wife thanked me, for what I said.
On the train, I simply showed him the bloody hankercheif. Maybe he's mad cause I beat his ass. :P
BYE~