Nick's Death Analyzed; Sadder Than You Think
Nick's death was a passive suicide. He wasn't looking for help. He was looking to get himself killed.
Think of it this way: Nick was bleeding out from a bullet wound. We can see how bad it got on his corpse--he lost quite a bit of blood. He knew that if he died while he and Luke were trying to help Sarah, he would indirectly sentence the other two to death, because he'd be trapping them in a trailer with one tall ass zombie, and with Sarah panicking and Luke physically exhausted, neither of them were in any condition to fight that off. By that point he probably felt he was going to die either way, so the best way to die was to do it in a way that wouldn't hurt anyone else. This can also tie in with the theory that Nick purposefully stuck himself in the fence when bitten to ensure that his walker-self wouldn't be a threat.
It's possible that, ideally, he really did want to get to Parker's Run. After making so many mistakes he probably really did want to prove himself to Luke and the rest of the group, make them realize that he could be capable and helpful and maybe even heroic, and with that in mind he pushed forward despite the circumstances, hoping with the same idealism he held about Luke returning that he'd make it on a whim. But... assuming it was the same amount of walkers surrounding the trailer as it was when Clem and Jane arrived to find them, I find it pretty unlikely that someone as pessimistic as him could look out at that and say "Yeah, I'm gonna make it." He's the same person who doubted going into the herd as well, remember? Nick was bleeding out bad, and walkers can smell that.
And the thing that really gets me... and I mean, this could just be artistic oversight and a matter of not wanting to put too much detail in a five minute corpse cameo, but nothing was done to try and tend to the bullet wound. He made no attempt to wrap it as a way to ebb the flow or even just mask the smell a bit for when he left the trailer. He just let it happen, like he was subconsciously allowing himself to die.
Add all this up with the fact that Luke explicitly tells us Nick has previously had suicidal thoughts/tendencies after you mention he wanted to die back at the shed, and it's pretty consistent with his behavior.
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Still a waste....and lazy.
Yeah I see the best in most things but Nick was poorly done in every possible way
Agreed.
I'm just... trying to look for some kind of story behind it, okay?
I know, and it's a good theory, I just.....Telltale did not even give a shit.
I'm not sure I said it in this case, but I've always been saying (at least since episode 2) Nick's bit danger is passive suicide. Though I disagree about the trailer part - if it's a matter of self-sacrifice it isn't really considered suicide (since the primary aim wasn't to kill himself).
I thought Nick's death in episode 4 was more a product of him trying to prove himself capable (same with going to bridge with his gun, or even his interactions with Pete) than an actual death wish. While I think Nick had little regard for his life, even to the point of being passively suicidal, I don't think going out of the trailer was one of those. In the shed, Nick was deliberately passive in order to let his life end; in the case of the trailer, I think his primary goal was to prove himself. He was willing to die, but that wasn't his goal.
This makes his death sound so heroic, if only telltale made it seem this way.
I think that it would have been better for the story if Clem went with Luke and Nick out of the herd to look for Sarah. Seriously, going with Rebecca got her yelled at by Kenny. I guess Jane did teach her some survival skills, but it was nothing that couldn't be taught when they were searching the gift shop. I think that would have been better for the story... giving Nick some story to his death and possible character development for Luke.
Nick was no longer the same since Pete died.
You know what, that would have been awesome. I would have loved it if it had happened like that! Jane did kinda take up too much of the episode at the expense of other characters' development.
I came to like Nick more than anyone.. He wasn't in your face all trusting and friendly he was just himself.. Because most people in the game who came across in that manner tended to be the deceitful ones like the St.John brother's. He definitely met a premature end and was deserving of more character development.
Poor Nick... I thought we will be able to keep him safe atleast until ep 5 but no...
Remember when nick got shot, he put his hand which was covered in walker blood over the wound which could've let some walker blood in and infect him and it closer to his brain which would have sped up the infection but it was probably only a bit of walker blood so it that slowed the infection but still he was infected and was going to die anyway
The wiki said that he got bit in the neck
I like your theory. Nick's death definitely could have been handled better.
Ever since Walter had the chance to kill Nick, Nick was practically no longer part of the group from then onwards. Only appearing briefly in the van, camp and herd, then as a walker in the fence. I understand he was a determinant character but look at Carley/Doug and Ben! They didn't suddenly fade into the background and disappear after their first potential death, so it was disappointing to go this way with Nick.
I think everyone knew he was going to die and that's probably why they made a point of Nick getting shot on his way out of the herd but it does seem a bit of a cop out to have his death off-screen. I went with Pete in my save so i felt like I never really got to know much about Nick but I convinced Walter Nick was a good man and he spared him. There was real opportunity there to have more scenes with Nick here but instead sparing him felt pointless because he pretty much disappeared after that. It really would have been nice to have more interaction with him before he died.
If it's true than it's understandable now why Luke looked more disappointed than surprised.
Yes. But he was shot before hand and bleeding out. We saw that. My point is that he went outside and allowed himself to get bitten because he was bleeding out from the bullet wound regardless.
I was really disappointed how they handled Nick's death and his character in the last 2 episodes...
We get dialogue options describing how their characters are similar back in EP2 saying how " Luke's/Nick's a good guy" ,"He saved my life","I trust him." .I really hoped that there will be something deeper with their friendship ( like Nick finally realizing that Luke is patronizing him ) I was also expecting like a Lilly v.s. Kenny situation with them...picking sides "Who's your favourite bro?"
I thought that Nick and Luke's friendship will slowly fall apart by protecting a little girl...like how in Season 1 Kenny & Lee's relationship had it's ups and downs...
I'd think it'be best that Telltale stopped making determinant characters determinant...
This is a good theory, but I have a feeling he tried to run away after getting bit by a walker, then after he got away turned, then got himself stuck. But I honestly can't say I'm right, because we have no idea.
But how could he have known for sure if Nick committed suicide?
He's known Nick for a while. He might have been able to tell by picking up on some behavioral cues.
...that would make it all the worse, though, because it would mean Luke willingly allowed Nick to walk into his death.
F*CK Tavia, for shooting Nick.
She caused to Nick die. So F*CK Tavia. She's an asshole.
R.I.PNick
While that would have been great to have happened, it didn't. For realistic reasons, of course Clementine would have followed them, but walkers got in her way. Not everything can occur perfectly in this type of game, though don't get me wrong, Telltale still took a lazy approach in killing off Nick. An off-scene death is a terrible way to go out.
#TeamWalkerWhoProbablyGotTavia
This is like the Mass Effect 3 Indoctrination theory all over again. The writers fucked up and the fans created an amazing theory (Like this one!) trying to explain it or make something good out of something bad.
She also killed Carlos. Damn! That bitches killstreak must be OVER 9000!!!
That could be true, he was depressive and barely talked at Carver's camp.
He may have been tired of running away.
Rest in peace, Nick...you poor, unlucky bastard.
You can also technically pin Sarita's death on that, as Sarah's reaction to seeing Carlos die was to scream and force Sarita to break her disguise in order to save her.
But if Nick dies episode 2, there's also random walker stuck in same position as you described. So, is the random walker tragic and heroic as well?
Uhhh no I recently played with Nick dead in episode 2 and there is no walker on the fence at all...
Nick's reason of death is up to Tell Tale Games to decide. But yours is way better
Don't get me wrong, I love Nick to death. He's such a unique character and all, but I really want to make a joke.
What's Nick's favourite sport?
Fencing.
don't kill me
Honestly, when it comes to Nick's death, I guess you could say I'm kind of on the fence about how it was handled...
That death will always be terrible if we have to create an in depth analysis to create some sort of meaning out of it. The meaning should be clear the moment you see it, or explained later on.
This might just be me but personally if I was in the same position as Clementine got separated from two of my friends while in the herd only later to find one of them re-animated and trapped in a fence, It would be a pretty sad death, not just because they died but seeing them like that would be horrible.
In the interest of fairness, I'm not sure if we can be absolutely sure Tavia's the one who shot him, and even if she did, what were the Carver group supposed to do? Not defend themselves from the zombies at all? It's not their fault our group invited a plague of zombies onto their doorstep. Nick and Carlos getting shot was just bad luck that was brought on by the fact that we decided to walk in the herd to begin with.
I don't have much of a love for Tavia, but I've always found the heated dislike of her, the blame she receives for everything that went down during the herd, and her portrayal as this blind Carver loyalist who would track down the group for revenge after s2e03 so weird. She didn't even do anything that horrible to anybody besides just following orders and not giving an inch like she was supposed to.
You know how Nick makes everything that happened even sadder? He predicted everyone dying.
" Everyone I grew up with… it all happened to them. And now, it’s gonna happen to us. We’re all so fucked. This world is fucked. I mean, what’s the point? We’ll just march to some new place and somebody else will die. It’s never gonna stop. And eventually, it’ll be our turn."
We just wrote it off as a rant from a depressed man.
;~;
Wow. Yeah. You're right.
In the walking dead, if a character's name is Nick, he's gonna become a walker...stuck in a fence.