Something I've noticed with the walking dead tribute videos...
There is only Lilly video on the web, its odd considering she is a brilliantly written character. I reckon if she does return I'm definitively making one. How do you guys feel about her character?
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She shot Carley for talking shit. I'd blow her brains out right there right then if there was an option. That's my opinion.
No thanks man. She's loong gone.
Lee killed a man for having sex with his wife. Would you blow Lee's brains out?
I would love one, she's a very interesting and emotionally deep character in my opinion.
Be careful, on this forum people like to oversimplify and say she killed Carley purely because carley said mean things to her.
Shooting someone for sleeping with your wife and shooting someone for talking shit are two different things.
But she did!
Unlikely, considering how much hinting there is that she'll be returning.
I meant she's long gone since S1, making a tribute video about her at this point in time is weird
But it's not that simple. In episode 1, you can call lilly a bitch and she doesn't shoot you.
Something changed with her mentally in episode 2 and 3.
This was that her father was killed brutally in front of her, that people thought she was crazy for saying supplies were going missing, and that Kenny left her to die after she tried to save them ALL from bandits.
She was pushed to a terrible mental state, and was mentally unstable. Then when carley called her a bitch and that she didn't help anyone ever, that reasserted all her fears about herself, and she snapped.
Yes, if you want to oversimplify, you can say she killed Carley because she was mean to her. But if we look at the actual evidence, that she doesn't do that if you're mean to her in the past, we can see that she is in a bad mental state, and that's why she went so far.
Then, when Lee pushed her up against the truck, she drops the gun with sorrow in her face.
Not really.
Why is it always about Lilly killing Carley? Why can't we talk about Doug? I mean Doug was awesome.
I wasn't playing Lee the Cheated, I was playing Lee the Zombie Apocalypse Survivor.
How is shooting someone for sleeping with your wife any better than shooting someone for shouting at you after your dad has been killed and you were left to die having tried to save the group?
How is shooting someone for sleeping with your wife okay?
I'm surprised that you say that as your original post implied otherwise, but I welcome the support.
But Lee the Zombie Apocalyspe Survivor IS Lee the cheated.
You can't say that what lilly did deserves the death penalty and then think that what Lee did is perfectly fine.
If he likes the character, why not?
Let people enjoy the characters they enjoy.
I didn't say that what Lee did was perfectly fine. But I didn't have a say in that, none of us did.
Still, they could've given us an option to kill Lilly but have her escape/dodge etc. but they didn't. It's too bad TT has to follow the comic book and Kirkman.
Well said there. But its what TTG wants us to think: Lilly kills Carley because she got too far by being mean. This led Lilly to snap so you're still right though XD. But in general terms Lilly still killed Carley out of retaliation.
No Lilly videos, huh? Maybe a handful of bees would solve that?
I'll get to something when I have the time.
We didn't have a say in what Lilly did either, I don't see how that's an argument as to why Lilyl deserves to be slaughtered and Lee is perfectly fine.
Killing Lilly for committing murder would be extremely hypocritical.
Ok thats up to him, but its not the kind of thing I would watch. You know what I mean XD
No, I don't think that's what Telltale wants us to think. I just think that's what the fans have deducted, as people generally like to oversimplify.
In general terms yeah. In general terms, Lee killed a man for lying in his bed. In general terms, Kenny killed Larry because his eyes were shut.
We always have to consider the big picture if we want to effectively judge someone for their actions, otherwise it's just unfair.
Welcome to the real world.
Such a great video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc
Sure, but you don't speak for everyone, and there's no point in opposing the creation of a video you don't have to watch anyway is there
Just because people are hypocritical doesn't mean we HAVE to be.
We can make changes.
Openly admitting we are acting hypocritical and not wanting to change that shows that we aren't a great person. Most sane people who admit that they are doing something wrong would stop.
I made one with a system of a down song.. not sure if its the only one..
Of course I don't speak for everyone, I speak for myself silly
But I'm shallow-minded and not normal, so I'd rather see it in general terms XD
link?
Completely different. Lilly killed someone for no reason.
What specific purpose did Lee kill someone for?
Lee killed out of anger for no reason other than he was extremely pissed off, right?
Eagerly awaiting your reply.
Lee got cheated on. So he killed a man. When he spoke about it, he regretted it. But with Lilly she killed Carley for no reason. Getting cheated on makes you angry. Killing someone because you think that they stole supplies isn't a good enough reason to kill.
We don't know if Lilly regretted ti yet, so we can't blame her for something she hasn't yet done.
Her look when she drops the gun implies a great deal of sadness, though.
Your continuing 'no reason' argument baffles me. You've admitted Lee killed a man because he was angry, right? How is that a good reason in the first palce?
Regardless, they are the same reason. Lilyl also killed because she was angry.
Getting cheated on makes you angry. Yes.
Getting left to die after you've tried to save your group makes you angry. Having your father killed in front of you gets you angry. Then, being insulted, and told that you never try to help people after that;s all you've been trying to do, yep, makes you angry.
This combination of factors combine into one huge heap of anger and....BOOM. She shoots the gun.
Lee killed because he was angry. Lilly killed because she was angry.
I don't think you genuinely believe, justice wise, that having an affair should get the death penalty. I just don't believe that. And if so, then you don't really think that's a 'good enough reason to kill'. It wasn't self defence. It wasn't to save someone else. It was murder.
To illustrate my point that Lilly probably does feel guilty for it, this is the look she gives after shooting carley:
That face is NOT a face of someone who is thinking 'Woot, just killed someone, I'm such an awesome person :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD #noregrets'. Look at her! She's incredibly sad about it!
i can't fault anyone who kills a cheater. Killing someone for no reason is a lot worse. If she shot Kenny I could understand, But she didn't, She shot Carley who did nothing but point out her flaws. Yes she might of been a bit messed up mentally after he father died but it doesn't change anything in my opinion. I actually liked Lilly and Carley but when Lilly killed Carley I left her.
Still doesn't make it right.
But you're still not making sense!
So, Lee killing someone because they're a cheater IS a reason, but Lilly killing someone because she thinks they have betrayed the group and have been horrible to her ISN'T a reason?
They're both TERRIBLE reasons for killing people!
'A bit messed up mentally after her father died'?! Did you see it?! His brains were splattered onto her while she was trying to save him! As she says to Lee 'I have nothing left...'. She has nothing to fight for.
The fact that you say she should kill Kenny instead shows you don't understand her thought process. She wasn't thinking 'Oh, well let's see, on the one hand carley has done this, hmm but y'know, on the other hand kenny has done this and hmmm i dunno
'',, she was thinking 'EVERYONE FUCKING HATES ME THEY WANT ME TO DIE' and then Carley, unfortunately triggers her!
Nor does Lee regretting his murder make it right, but you JUST used that above as a reason why lee doing it was okay!
Quote: 'When he spoke about it, he regretted it.'. You were using that as a reason why Lee's was justified.
Fact is Lee had proof and acted. Lilly had no proof and killed Carley. I don't care if she had problems after her father's death. If anyone in the group did what she did, Then I would also exile them from the group.