It's funny to think that after episode 4 was released there were so many people (including me) who were team Mike and Bonnie. We thought that they were the only ones who really cared for Clem and who were reasonable.Some people even said that they wouldn't hesitate a second to leave with them and let Kenny and Luke argue together as they like. I guess the lesson here that we all have to learn fo future episodes is: don't ever say how much you love a character or how much you think they're great cause Telltale will either kill them off or make you hate them next episode! xD
I really don't know what to think about Bonnie and Mike. Why the hell would they leave with Arvo, that fucking thief, that four-eyed child killer, that no good Ruskie son of a bitch? I know Kenny was on the edge, but Christ guys, you were ready to leave a kid and a baby behind to die with him? I just don't know. I liked them. They were the best people alive in episode 4, and now this? Jesus. Fuck.
I actually wanted to go with them, Kenny was going insane and I had enough of him.
As far as I'm concerned with my playthrough, Mike and Bonnie did nothing wrong. Even though they didn't invite Clementine, I understood why they didn't. Kenny wasn't going to let her go so easily, which is why I wanted to go with them as soon as possible.
That would have been possible if it weren't for Arvo shooting Clementine, causing Kenny and Jane to take her with them while she was unconscious. But then again, it was inevitable seeing how Kenny treating him and making him a paranoid wreck. Still, I'm disappointed in him for what he did.
That's my problem with it. I can understand fleeing from Kenny. But all of the supplies? C'mon, you are killing a little girl and baby, Mike. And giving *Arvo * the gun? That was stupid beyond all belief.
I really don't know what to think about Bonnie and Mike. Why the hell would they leave with Arvo, that fucking thief, that four-eyed child k… moreiller, that no good Ruskie son of a bitch? I know Kenny was on the edge, but Christ guys, you were ready to leave a kid and a baby behind to die with him? I just don't know. I liked them. They were the best people alive in episode 4, and now this? Jesus. Fuck.
Calm down...
as I said, I'm not even trying to defend them, I was both angry and sad when I saw them stealing the supplies and the truck with Arvo, but I can understand why they did it.
Kenny was unstable, (he beat up a kid who lost his group and his sister for what? He didn't even have a gun during the shootout) they were afraid of him (and so was I) and decided to leave.
And by the way in my playthrough Bonnie tried to help me, so she still care about Clem.
No they're idiots. Kenny beats up a guy that was part of the gang that ambushed them and that makes him a bad guy so tried to leave Clem and… more baby AJ for dead by taking the supplies and the car they didn't fix with the guy that was part of the gang that tried to kill them. I hope all 3 of their corpses appear in Season 3 so I can spit on them.
I understood that they wanted to leave and would have let them if they just didn't rob the group of everything.
When Mike let down the bag and approached Clem it was clear to me that they were trying to keep it all so I yelled for help as soon as I could.
If there had been a choice to shoot any of them I think I would have taken it, even if they only got wounded from it. If they had left the one bag and walked away I would have let them.
I was shocked. I literally sat there with my mouth opened, I couldn't believe they were going to abandon Clem. Especially Mike, I thought he's our friend.
I don´t see the reason for the hate here, they just put their own safety, their own survival above the other´s, like anyone would. They didn´t mean to screw Clem, but they had to get away from Kenny, and calling Clem to come with them was too risky since Clem and Kenny have history together, meaning Clem could accuse them to Kenny and screw their escape plan.
Yeah, I think that's the part that got me the most. Especially seeing as they let Arvo carry the fucking gun! It's one thing if they took him along, but giving him a rifle when they aren't armed is ridiculous.
Damn, what a letdown in the gameplay I watched Bonnie was not being a bitch but Mike suddenly has a heel turn for the worse. They chose Arvo over Kenny/Clem. That's horrible.
Well, the problem here is that they stole all of the supplies and attempted to steal the truck. Which could have ended up killing AJ and Clementine. Like Lily said in Season 1, stealing from the group is as good as murdering you.
I don´t see the reason for the hate here, they just put their own safety, their own survival above the other´s, like anyone would. They didn… more´t mean to screw Clem, but they had to get away from Kenny, and calling Clem to come with them was too risky since Clem and Kenny have history together, meaning Clem could accuse them to Kenny and screw their escape plan.
Arvo is a little asshole ungrateful lying motherfucker that deserves to get ripped apart by walkers more than Lilly or Vernon.
Bonnie is just a bitch, I fucking hate her. It's NOT Clem's fucking fault Luke died! In my playthrough, it was entirely Bonnie's fault.
Luke told her multiple times not to get too close to him, and she still does, making the ice break and dooming Luke to his death. If the bitch had just stayed put Luke would have gotten out himself.
Hell, Clementine even tries to save him and falls in ice cold water for him, and Bonnie really has the nerve to blame her? I will never forgive her that, even after 400 days I hate her more than Carver.
And Mike? I am disappointed. Not even mad, just disappointed. I will change my profile picture soon, he doesn't deserve it to be shown as anyone's profile picture. He's dead in my books.
What makes me the most angry is that they didn't even ask Clem to come! They just decided to leave with that freaking kid (who caused all that mess) even though he shot Clem for absolutely no reason at all...
I thought Bonnie cared for Clem... If I happen to see her in the next season, I'll leave her to die, just like she did with Clem, first occasion I have. Mike isn't that much of a butthole though, I'll make peace with him (if he regrets what he did) if I see him again. And Arvo... He's a walking dead for me... He better not cross my Clem's path...
Kenny's treatment towards Arvo is understandable. Arvo led his gang to ambush the group and luckily no one was killed but Luke on the other hand was shot in the leg and when Kenny beat up Arvo, this was after Arvo tried to make a run for it. For Mike & Bonnie to class him as unstable and try to make a run for it based on him treating a kid that was part of a gang that attacked them badly is naive on their behalf considering they saw Kenny's soft side the night by the fire and not to mention they were punishing Clem and the baby by taking the supplies and the working vehicle they never fixed. Bonnie may have tried to help you but that doesn't excuse her selfishness of leaving you and the stupidity of trusting Arvo.
Calm down...
as I said, I'm not even trying to defend them, I was both angry and sad when I saw them stealing the supplies and the truck wi… moreth Arvo, but I can understand why they did it.
Kenny was unstable, (he beat up a kid who lost his group and his sister for what? He didn't even have a gun during the shootout) they were afraid of him (and so was I) and decided to leave.
And by the way in my playthrough Bonnie tried to help me, so she still care about Clem.
One shot. That's all wanted from Telltale on this weasel. As for Bonnie and Mike, I was shocked, but this is one of many reasons I couldn't support Kenny anymore.
oh, please Clem will not die because they stole supplies and the truck. Clem can survive a gunshot. What some supplies and a truck to Clem? AJ, probably. Stop putting Clem and the baby in the same category.
Well, the problem here is that they stole all of the supplies and attempted to steal the truck. Which could have ended up killing AJ and Clementine. Like Lily said in Season 1, stealing from the group is as good as murdering you.
Wow... so much for trust... Bonnie the bitch and Mike the mite, I got so mad when they were just going to let Clementine, Kenny, Jane and AJ die like that... while taking Arvo with them... and then Arvo shot Clementine and I was so mad... I hope Bonnie and Mike appear in Season 3 and become determinant...
I'm not really shocked about Bonnie. I'm pissed off as all Hell but given her history...she's running from Kenny because she reminds him too much of the men who pushed her around. Makes me incredibly disappointed...but glad that I didn't try to go through the window in episode 4...
Mike...never fully connected, why is why I can not care. I get sympathizing with Arvo...there was a chance he could have become part of the group...and Kenny didn't trust him because the little punk set things up so we could be robbed. I don't get why that doesn't make sense. So then...we take the one kid who did the group wrong and run...nope Mike. If you ever show up again...I'm letting you die like i did Jane.
And Arvo....stupid, little, lying snake in the grass Arvo.
I understood that they wanted to leave and would have let them if they just didn't rob the group of everything.
When Mike let down the ba… moreg and approached Clem it was clear to me that they were trying to keep it all so I yelled for help as soon as I could.
If there had been a choice to shoot any of them I think I would have taken it, even if they only got wounded from it. If they had left the one bag and walked away I would have let them.
Arvo probably thought Clementine finished off his sister - he didn't see her turn. Or he just coded the image of Clementine shooting his sister, even though she was a zombie. I see no other explanation for what he did, especially that I tried to show sympathy whenever possible. I was actually surprised that there were no real options to do it during the game - now we know why, TT had something different in mind. Having said that, it is weird Mike and Bonnie gave him the gun; suspension of disbelief guys, doh!
Bonnie had a black eye, when you saw them near the car - makes you think what might've happened behind the scenes. My idea was that Mike wanted to save Arvo from Kenny, knowing that he wanted to leave him, and it woke Bonnie, who got punched by Mike, but didn't pass out. Instead, realizing her options, she asked to tag along.
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You and 100% of players liked Mike at first but then changed their minds afterwards
For those people who said not to trust Mike. I applaud you.
What I will be like if I find Arvo, Mike & Bonnie again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMew38zTXHQ
Mike... why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfSoaJxe3Y
It's funny to think that after episode 4 was released there were so many people (including me) who were team Mike and Bonnie. We thought that they were the only ones who really cared for Clem and who were reasonable.Some people even said that they wouldn't hesitate a second to leave with them and let Kenny and Luke argue together as they like. I guess the lesson here that we all have to learn fo future episodes is: don't ever say how much you love a character or how much you think they're great cause Telltale will either kill them off or make you hate them next episode! xD
I really don't know what to think about Bonnie and Mike. Why the hell would they leave with Arvo, that fucking thief, that four-eyed child killer, that no good Ruskie son of a bitch? I know Kenny was on the edge, but Christ guys, you were ready to leave a kid and a baby behind to die with him? I just don't know. I liked them. They were the best people alive in episode 4, and now this? Jesus. Fuck.
I actually wanted to go with them, Kenny was going insane and I had enough of him.
As far as I'm concerned with my playthrough, Mike and Bonnie did nothing wrong. Even though they didn't invite Clementine, I understood why they didn't. Kenny wasn't going to let her go so easily, which is why I wanted to go with them as soon as possible.
That would have been possible if it weren't for Arvo shooting Clementine, causing Kenny and Jane to take her with them while she was unconscious. But then again, it was inevitable seeing how Kenny treating him and making him a paranoid wreck. Still, I'm disappointed in him for what he did.
I hope they are all dead
That's my problem with it. I can understand fleeing from Kenny. But all of the supplies? C'mon, you are killing a little girl and baby, Mike. And giving *Arvo * the gun? That was stupid beyond all belief.
Calm down...
as I said, I'm not even trying to defend them, I was both angry and sad when I saw them stealing the supplies and the truck with Arvo, but I can understand why they did it.
Kenny was unstable, (he beat up a kid who lost his group and his sister for what? He didn't even have a gun during the shootout) they were afraid of him (and so was I) and decided to leave.
And by the way in my playthrough Bonnie tried to help me, so she still care about Clem.
I understood that they wanted to leave and would have let them if they just didn't rob the group of everything.
When Mike let down the bag and approached Clem it was clear to me that they were trying to keep it all so I yelled for help as soon as I could.
If there had been a choice to shoot any of them I think I would have taken it, even if they only got wounded from it. If they had left the one bag and walked away I would have let them.
I was shocked. I literally sat there with my mouth opened, I couldn't believe they were going to abandon Clem. Especially Mike, I thought he's our friend.
This confirms that any vehicle Kenny touches will be the victim of theft or attempted theft though
Did anyone steal the truck from episode 1 season 1?
I don't think it was there when Lee and Kenny went for supplies in episode 3 which means someone must have taken it.
In 103 if you let Lilly come with you she'll steal the truck.
No, that's the RV
I don´t see the reason for the hate here, they just put their own safety, their own survival above the other´s, like anyone would. They didn´t mean to screw Clem, but they had to get away from Kenny, and calling Clem to come with them was too risky since Clem and Kenny have history together, meaning Clem could accuse them to Kenny and screw their escape plan.
I think it was left behind because the RV was more practical for moving a group of people than his old pick-up.
yup, my bad.
Yeah, I think that's the part that got me the most. Especially seeing as they let Arvo carry the fucking gun! It's one thing if they took him along, but giving him a rifle when they aren't armed is ridiculous.
Well, the problem here is that they stole all of the supplies and attempted to steal the truck. Which could have ended up killing AJ and Clementine. Like Lily said in Season 1, stealing from the group is as good as murdering you.
Arvo is a little asshole ungrateful lying motherfucker that deserves to get ripped apart by walkers more than Lilly or Vernon.
Bonnie is just a bitch, I fucking hate her. It's NOT Clem's fucking fault Luke died! In my playthrough, it was entirely Bonnie's fault.
Luke told her multiple times not to get too close to him, and she still does, making the ice break and dooming Luke to his death. If the bitch had just stayed put Luke would have gotten out himself.
Hell, Clementine even tries to save him and falls in ice cold water for him, and Bonnie really has the nerve to blame her? I will never forgive her that, even after 400 days I hate her more than Carver.
And Mike? I am disappointed. Not even mad, just disappointed. I will change my profile picture soon, he doesn't deserve it to be shown as anyone's profile picture. He's dead in my books.
I have a few things to say.
Fuck Mike.
Fuck Bonnie.
Fuck Arvo.
There, I needed to get it out of my system. Phew. Now I just need to find Jane hate thread.
What makes me the most angry is that they didn't even ask Clem to come! They just decided to leave with that freaking kid (who caused all that mess) even though he shot Clem for absolutely no reason at all...
I thought Bonnie cared for Clem... If I happen to see her in the next season, I'll leave her to die, just like she did with Clem, first occasion I have. Mike isn't that much of a butthole though, I'll make peace with him (if he regrets what he did) if I see him again. And Arvo... He's a walking dead for me... He better not cross my Clem's path...
Sorry if I came across as angry.
Kenny's treatment towards Arvo is understandable. Arvo led his gang to ambush the group and luckily no one was killed but Luke on the other hand was shot in the leg and when Kenny beat up Arvo, this was after Arvo tried to make a run for it. For Mike & Bonnie to class him as unstable and try to make a run for it based on him treating a kid that was part of a gang that attacked them badly is naive on their behalf considering they saw Kenny's soft side the night by the fire and not to mention they were punishing Clem and the baby by taking the supplies and the working vehicle they never fixed. Bonnie may have tried to help you but that doesn't excuse her selfishness of leaving you and the stupidity of trusting Arvo.
and I got 36 dislikes for it haha
Bonnie is actually a determinant character.
One shot. That's all wanted from Telltale on this weasel. As for Bonnie and Mike, I was shocked, but this is one of many reasons I couldn't support Kenny anymore.
How so?
If you don't try to break the ice and save Luke she drowns. This may depend on whether or not you try to save Luke too and not shoot the walkers also.
Just went ahead and checked it. She drowns.
oh, please Clem will not die because they stole supplies and the truck. Clem can survive a gunshot. What some supplies and a truck to Clem? AJ, probably. Stop putting Clem and the baby in the same category.
Bonnie and Luke died together. How romantic.
Wow... so much for trust... Bonnie the bitch and Mike the mite, I got so mad when they were just going to let Clementine, Kenny, Jane and AJ die like that... while taking Arvo with them... and then Arvo shot Clementine and I was so mad... I hope Bonnie and Mike appear in Season 3 and become determinant...
I'm not really shocked about Bonnie. I'm pissed off as all Hell but given her history...she's running from Kenny because she reminds him too much of the men who pushed her around. Makes me incredibly disappointed...but glad that I didn't try to go through the window in episode 4...
Mike...never fully connected, why is why I can not care. I get sympathizing with Arvo...there was a chance he could have become part of the group...and Kenny didn't trust him because the little punk set things up so we could be robbed. I don't get why that doesn't make sense. So then...we take the one kid who did the group wrong and run...nope Mike. If you ever show up again...I'm letting you die like i did Jane.
And Arvo....stupid, little, lying snake in the grass Arvo.
Fuck him.
I'd Carver his everything in. Face last.
And everyone hated him for it.
Now look where we are.
It's interesting looking back and seeing how many times it was brought up in conversation that you possibly can't trust Mike.
Exactly.
I wasn't mad that they were leaving - I was mad that they were taking all of our food and supplies. Especially when we had a baby to take care of.
2 things:
Arvo probably thought Clementine finished off his sister - he didn't see her turn. Or he just coded the image of Clementine shooting his sister, even though she was a zombie. I see no other explanation for what he did, especially that I tried to show sympathy whenever possible. I was actually surprised that there were no real options to do it during the game - now we know why, TT had something different in mind. Having said that, it is weird Mike and Bonnie gave him the gun; suspension of disbelief guys, doh!
Bonnie had a black eye, when you saw them near the car - makes you think what might've happened behind the scenes. My idea was that Mike wanted to save Arvo from Kenny, knowing that he wanted to leave him, and it woke Bonnie, who got punched by Mike, but didn't pass out. Instead, realizing her options, she asked to tag along.