Let me just say I had to think for alittle before i decided on that but kenny has been with us longer and overall this episode had it shoc… moreker moments and bonnie and mike surprised me with that move and overall my favorite ending was the wellington with kenny i decided to not go with kenny since you know people died to get us here so i followed kennys wishes and stayed at wellington and that was a glorious ending i picked kenny because its not his fault he has a temper he lost alot in life and to conclude this reply i love your posts they are very elegant and intresting to read please make more i love your points and views on pros and cons and episodes overall
I think the reason the Wellington ending (where Clem stays and Kenny leaves) is the best ending to me is because you know Kenny can survive … moreon his own (and possibly die/kill himself if he wants) and that he will be at peace with how things concluded. It had a bit of the feel of when Lee handcuffed himself to the radiator... you know both will rest in peace knowing they gave Clem the best shot possible.
It seemed like a fitting conclusion for a man who was haunted by failing to protect those he loved, and losing a battle with his own insanity, to be successful for once and be able to let go of those he loves (to save them) and walk off into the snowstorm like a boss.
Well my point of view on it it was touching and you know kenny walked the other way happy knowing the only people left in his life he can trust for sure and care about are safe he can survive the next days a happy man
I agree with everything you said, Kenny definitely looked insanity in the eyes, and he didn't back down. I cried like a baby, and I left with Kenny, and I regret close to nothing. I am glad I did not choose Jane. Kenny will become Rick 2.0, calling it. I love how they are building Clem plus Kenny father and daughter relationship sorta thing. I love the endings, in my opinion they were both sadder and better than 105. Bring the hate. #VivaLaMoustache
I agree, but he isn't crazy, there's a difference. He has problems, but he's not insane.
"You know what's the definition of insanity? Rep… moreeating the same fucking thing over and over and over again, expecting it to fucking change!"
Vaas from Far Cry 3 said that, and he's right, Kenny isn't insane because he acknowledges his "insanity", he has problem sure, but who doesn't? With everything he went through, is it really unnatural for a man to lose it?
He didn't expect things to change, he knew he has made and will make mistakes, and he did the right thing, so even though he is off, and does have mental problems, he's not what you'd call "insane", he's more in a purgatory state of mind, he doesn't know what to do with himself, but he looks at his actions from a side view, and acts accordingly - with the master goal of getting Clem and AJ to a safe place, and he did.
I'm proud, to say the least.
yeah, all things considered, I'm pretty sure the "Clem stays at Wellington" ending is the one that feels the best to me. It's sweet when she refuses to leave him, but not practical with a baby in tow... And the Jane endings just feel too much like Clem has given in to a combination of Jane's distrust of others and Carver's "survival of the fittest" mentality. The alone with the herd ending is the least satisfying to me as I see no way the baby will survive (without Clem finding outside help) and I personally believe social bonds in a world like this is what makes the difference between life and death.
Well my point of view on it it was touching and you know kenny walked the other way happy knowing the only people left in his life he can trust for sure and care about are safe he can survive the next days a happy man
yeah, all things considered, I'm pretty sure the "Clem stays at Wellington" ending is the one that feels the best to me. It's sweet when she… more refuses to leave him, but not practical with a baby in tow... And the Jane endings just feel too much like Clem has given in to a combination of Jane's distrust of others and Carver's "survival of the fittest" mentality. The alone with the herd ending is the least satisfying to me as I see no way the baby will survive (without Clem finding outside help) and I personally believe social bonds in a world like this is what makes the difference between life and death.
Yeah, only problem with going with Kenny is that he can still hurt Clem by mistake in one of his uncontrollable outbursts, and I still doubt (he is also) that he can keep them alive and safe, that's why I went into Wellington, for Kenny, because that's what he wants.
I agree with everything you said, Kenny definitely looked insanity in the eyes, and he didn't back down. I cried like a baby, and I left wit… moreh Kenny, and I regret close to nothing. I am glad I did not choose Jane. Kenny will become Rick 2.0, calling it. I love how they are building Clem plus Kenny father and daughter relationship sorta thing. I love the endings, in my opinion they were both sadder and better than 105. Bring the hate. #VivaLaMoustache
I don't think he was insane, not clinically. After everything he went through he was definitely a problem, but at least he knew it. Carver w… moreas insane. Who knows what happened to him to make him that way, but that was definitely not just a bad temper. He consistently chose sadism when there were other, easier alternatives: the clinical term for somebody who feels no guilt and has no empathy is sociopath.
Kenny and Jane, though, are in the same boat. They're not sociopaths--I don't think anyone would accuse Kenny in particular of not feeling guilt! Both started out as OK people with a few problems. After everything that's happened to them, they're basically their very worst selves. Clem's choice is (1) somebody who may or may not abandon her, or choose someone else over her, and (2) an honest but broken guy who's a volcano about to erupt.
That's why I chose Kenny in the end, and let him leave Clem and AJ at Wellington. However Clem might … [view original content]
What he did was just so wrong, if the baby was dead then trying to slaughter Jane wasn't going to help anything. What Kenny did for AJ and Clem was sweet but I couldn't let him kill Jane.
I can see by your picture and name that you were affected by past events, it's time to drop everything and look at him plain simple:
He's a broken man who did and gave everything he had for 2 kids, he wanted to kill Jane only because she allegedly killed a fucking baby, he knew she is a danger to Clem (clearly not a very stable person if she had the balls to leave a baby for dead), and could sacrifice Clem to save her own sorry ass at any time, loyal people don't sacrifice eachother, they either sacrifice themselves or die together.
What he did was just so wrong, if the baby was dead then trying to slaughter Jane wasn't going to help anything. What Kenny did for AJ and Clem was sweet but I couldn't let him kill Jane.
I guess you can't, but what they did was also selfish and fucking dumb, not to forget rash, since Kenny actually wanted to convince them to come, at least in my playthrough.
For those who sided with Jane, know that Jane knew Kenny's situation and his past. She provoked him to an unstable point and she knew damn well he was going to unleash on her. Kenny didn't want to kill her and Jane could've told him AJ was alive, but she risked her life to prove a point to Clem. Kenny's ending to leave Wellington behind or kill both are the only reasonable endings to go with. I want to say that Kenny's ending is the "true ending" but I think to kill em both is the true ending. Don't know if she can decide for herself.
Either way, kudos Kenny. You try to follow Lee's path and that's as good to me as any.
Im teaming up with this smart citizen of telltale forums and saying we have known kenny for longer time and jane we havent known as long shes unpredictable kenny we know long time jane said the baby died and overall it was hard to trust jane so i think kenny is just more trusty sure he outbursts but jane isint as trustworthy kenny cares about his group he only gets mad because you know hes trying to think whats best for the groups safety and jane you know shes sketchy at times i liked kenny and clementines bond because its unbreakable undestroyable and forever lasting jane just dident have as much a bond with clem compared to kenny sure kenny was ahole alot but he had his reasons and by the way to finish my statement i will say cant wait for season 3 and season 2 dlc
I can see by your picture and name that you were affected by past events, it's time to drop everything and look at him plain simple:
He's… more a broken man who did and gave everything he had for 2 kids, he wanted to kill Jane only because she allegedly killed a fucking baby, he knew she is a danger to Clem (clearly not a very stable person if she had the balls to leave a baby for dead), and could sacrifice Clem to save her own sorry ass at any time, loyal people don't sacrifice eachother, they either sacrifice themselves or die together.
I believe that AJ and Clem will change him back. I mean, they specifically said that they should check back in a few months, it's pretty much foreshadowing. God, this episode was so stressful, the choices, Luke, Bike, (FUCK THEM.) But it was beautiful. I just couldn't bring myself to leave Kenny.
Yeah, only problem with going with Kenny is that he can still hurt Clem by mistake in one of his uncontrollable outbursts, and I still doubt… more (he is also) that he can keep them alive and safe, that's why I went into Wellington, for Kenny, because that's what he wants.
I think Kenny's ending could be as true as any, I don't see how Clem would find the strength to kill him anyway, he's a father figure.
And Jane could've at least confessed him AJ is alive when she had a fucking knife pointed at her, but she had to be a fucking martyr and die proving a (rather useless) point instead of preventing any bloodshed.
For those who sided with Jane, know that Jane knew Kenny's situation and his past. She provoked him to an unstable point and she knew damn w… moreell he was going to unleash on her. Kenny didn't want to kill her and Jane could've told him AJ was alive, but she risked her life to prove a point to Clem. Kenny's ending to leave Wellington behind or kill both are the only reasonable endings to go with. I want to say that Kenny's ending is the "true ending" but I think to kill em both is the true ending. Don't know if she can decide for herself.
Either way, kudos Kenny. You try to follow Lee's path and that's as good to me as any.
I believe that AJ and Clem will change him back. I mean, they specifically said that they should check back in a few months, it's pretty much foreshadowing. God, this episode was so stressful, the choices, Luke, Bike, (FUCK THEM.) But it was beautiful. I just couldn't bring myself to leave Kenny.
Yeah, only problem with going with Kenny is that he can still hurt Clem by mistake in one of his uncontrollable outbursts, and I still doubt… more (he is also) that he can keep them alive and safe, that's why I went into Wellington, for Kenny, because that's what he wants.
Im teaming up with this smart citizen of telltale forums and saying we have known kenny for longer time and jane we havent known as long s… morehes unpredictable kenny we know long time jane said the baby died and overall it was hard to trust jane so i think kenny is just more trusty sure he outbursts but jane isint as trustworthy kenny cares about his group he only gets mad because you know hes trying to think whats best for the groups safety and jane you know shes sketchy at times i liked kenny and clementines bond because its unbreakable undestroyable and forever lasting jane just dident have as much a bond with clem compared to kenny sure kenny was ahole alot but he had his reasons and by the way to finish my statement i will say cant wait for season 3 and season 2 dlc
Nope, he only said that in the heat of the moment, he wants AJ and Clem to be safe more than he wants to be a rest, "You don't just end it because it's hard, you stick it out and you help the folks you care about!" - he lived up to his sentence, he sacrificed his peace of mind for them to be safe.
Plus, I don't care if he disagrees, this is my point of view on him.
Nope, he only said that in the heat of the moment, he wants AJ and Clem to be safe more than he wants to be a rest, "You don't just end it b… moreecause it's hard, you stick it out and you help the folks you care about!" - he lived up to his sentence, he sacrificed his peace of mind for them to be safe.
Plus, I don't care if he disagrees, this is my point of view on him.
You guys never give do you?!?! Look its okay that not everyone likes Kenny. Don't pick on other people for making different choices then you. Please mock people that didn't get the Kenny ending. From now on everyone's gameplay will be different. Can't you agree that the different choices that people make their walkthrough are unique. Please stop telling off non-Kenny fans, you making people unhappy. Tell-tales forums have been unhappy place latterly and its because a lot of people are auguring about they fav character that they will fight to the death to protect the from other peoples dislike of them.
Who said everyone has to love Kenny? Certainly not me! I gave my honest opinion, no hard feelings for anyone who picked otherwise, and no, I've never been what you call a "Kenny fanboy", this episode made him my favorite character in the game.
You guys never give do you?!?! Look its okay that not everyone likes Kenny. Don't pick on other people for making different choices then you… more. Please mock people that didn't get the Kenny ending. From now on everyone's gameplay will be different. Can't you agree that the different choices that people make their walkthrough are unique. Please stop telling off non-Kenny fans, you making people unhappy. Tell-tales forums have been unhappy place latterly and its because a lot of people are auguring about they fav character that they will fight to the death to protect the from other peoples dislike of them.
That makes 2 of us i dont mind people liking jane but i just like kenny more in my point of view so as i said that makes 2 of us we perfer kenny over jane if people dont like kenny and like jane fine by me everyone has there opinions like you said well said speech
Jesus, are you fucking kidding me?
Who said everyone has to love Kenny? Certainly not me! I gave my honest opinion, no hard feelings for … moreanyone who picked otherwise, and no, I've never been what you call a "Kenny fanboy", this episode made him my favorite character in the game.
True, that. I might have been a bit offensive, but I am on edge right now, so my apologies. But I just want people to watch the Kenny endings and tell me they don't regret choosing Jane.
Jesus, are you fucking kidding me?
Who said everyone has to love Kenny? Certainly not me! I gave my honest opinion, no hard feelings for … moreanyone who picked otherwise, and no, I've never been what you call a "Kenny fanboy", this episode made him my favorite character in the game.
As noble as it was I just couldn't leave the man. Kenny to me is family and I don't leave family behind no matter what. Yes he wanted me and AJ to be safe, I get that, but I'd rather take my chances out there with Kenny than being in Wellington with complete strangers. Me and AJ is all Kenny has left, that goes both ways. The mans never walked out on me, had each others backs since season 1, I'm sure my Lee would approve of my choice and I have no regrets in doing it.
But think of what Kenny would've wanted, wouldn't he want to know they are protected and safe? We have to face the facts, they can only survive in Wellington, they can't breastfeed the damn baby.
I just couldn't break his heart, he was crying and begging me to go, it was his damn death wish and I had to do it, but I guess there is still something to sticking with him 'til the bitter end.
As noble as it was I just couldn't leave the man. Kenny to me is family and I don't leave family behind no matter what. Yes he wanted me and… more AJ to be safe, I get that, but I'd rather take my chances out there with Kenny than being in Wellington with complete strangers. Me and AJ is all Kenny has left, that goes both ways. The mans never walked out on me, had each others backs since season 1, I'm sure my Lee would approve of my choice and I have no regrets in doing it.
True, that. I might have been a bit offensive, but I am on edge right now, so my apologies. But I just want people to watch the Kenny endings and tell me they don't regret choosing Jane.
I believe that AJ and Clem will change him back. I mean, they specifically said that they should check back in a few months, it's pretty muc… moreh foreshadowing. God, this episode was so stressful, the choices, Luke, Bike, (FUCK THEM.) But it was beautiful. I just couldn't bring myself to leave Kenny.
He was happy enough I decided to tag along with him.
Kenny- "You're stubborn as a mule"
Clementine- "I wonder where I get that from" Both smile
I mean, we got another bag of supplies and got invited back to try again in a couple of months so there is still hope. Still, we've been through so much, can't walk out now. We stick together.
But think of what Kenny would've wanted, wouldn't he want to know they are protected and safe? We have to face the facts, they can only surv… moreive in Wellington, they can't breastfeed the damn baby.
I just couldn't break his heart, he was crying and begging me to go, it was his damn death wish and I had to do it, but I guess there is still something to sticking with him 'til the bitter end.
I'm pretty sure AJ would die, he can't grow up with no milk and only a blanket to keep him warm in the worst part of the winter, but I hope for you he does, it's a risk.
He was happy enough I decided to tag along with him.
Kenny- "You're stubborn as a mule"
Clementine- "I wonder where I get that from" B… moreoth smile
I mean, we got another bag of supplies and got invited back to try again in a couple of months so there is still hope. Still, we've been through so much, can't walk out now. We stick together.
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Thank you for the compliments ^_^
I agree, you picked that ending for the same reason I did, good points, I'll try my best to comment more if that's what you want I guess, lol.
Agreed.
He didn't look back, that's how sure he was of his actions.
I agree with everything you said, Kenny definitely looked insanity in the eyes, and he didn't back down. I cried like a baby, and I left with Kenny, and I regret close to nothing. I am glad I did not choose Jane. Kenny will become Rick 2.0, calling it. I love how they are building Clem plus Kenny father and daughter relationship sorta thing. I love the endings, in my opinion they were both sadder and better than 105. Bring the hate. #VivaLaMoustache
yeah, all things considered, I'm pretty sure the "Clem stays at Wellington" ending is the one that feels the best to me. It's sweet when she refuses to leave him, but not practical with a baby in tow... And the Jane endings just feel too much like Clem has given in to a combination of Jane's distrust of others and Carver's "survival of the fittest" mentality. The alone with the herd ending is the least satisfying to me as I see no way the baby will survive (without Clem finding outside help) and I personally believe social bonds in a world like this is what makes the difference between life and death.
Great analyzation, I can tell you're a wise guy.
I killed Kenny. But god damn it did I hate that bitch Jane for making me do it. Fuck. I left her sorry arse.
Yeah, only problem with going with Kenny is that he can still hurt Clem by mistake in one of his uncontrollable outbursts, and I still doubt (he is also) that he can keep them alive and safe, that's why I went into Wellington, for Kenny, because that's what he wants.
Hell yeah!
TeamKenny
Self-centered asshole that only thinks for her own survival, I bet she would leave Clem for dead if she had to.
And boy did he do it.
What he did was just so wrong, if the baby was dead then trying to slaughter Jane wasn't going to help anything. What Kenny did for AJ and Clem was sweet but I couldn't let him kill Jane.
I can see by your picture and name that you were affected by past events, it's time to drop everything and look at him plain simple:
He's a broken man who did and gave everything he had for 2 kids, he wanted to kill Jane only because she allegedly killed a fucking baby, he knew she is a danger to Clem (clearly not a very stable person if she had the balls to leave a baby for dead), and could sacrifice Clem to save her own sorry ass at any time, loyal people don't sacrifice eachother, they either sacrifice themselves or die together.
I guess you can't, but what they did was also selfish and fucking dumb, not to forget rash, since Kenny actually wanted to convince them to come, at least in my playthrough.
For those who sided with Jane, know that Jane knew Kenny's situation and his past. She provoked him to an unstable point and she knew damn well he was going to unleash on her. Kenny didn't want to kill her and Jane could've told him AJ was alive, but she risked her life to prove a point to Clem. Kenny's ending to leave Wellington behind or kill both are the only reasonable endings to go with. I want to say that Kenny's ending is the "true ending" but I think to kill em both is the true ending. Don't know if she can decide for herself.
Either way, kudos Kenny. You try to follow Lee's path and that's as good to me as any.
Im teaming up with this smart citizen of telltale forums and saying we have known kenny for longer time and jane we havent known as long shes unpredictable kenny we know long time jane said the baby died and overall it was hard to trust jane so i think kenny is just more trusty sure he outbursts but jane isint as trustworthy kenny cares about his group he only gets mad because you know hes trying to think whats best for the groups safety and jane you know shes sketchy at times i liked kenny and clementines bond because its unbreakable undestroyable and forever lasting jane just dident have as much a bond with clem compared to kenny sure kenny was ahole alot but he had his reasons and by the way to finish my statement i will say cant wait for season 3 and season 2 dlc
I believe that AJ and Clem will change him back. I mean, they specifically said that they should check back in a few months, it's pretty much foreshadowing. God, this episode was so stressful, the choices, Luke, Bike, (FUCK THEM.) But it was beautiful. I just couldn't bring myself to leave Kenny.
I think Kenny's ending could be as true as any, I don't see how Clem would find the strength to kill him anyway, he's a father figure.
And Jane could've at least confessed him AJ is alive when she had a fucking knife pointed at her, but she had to be a fucking martyr and die proving a (rather useless) point instead of preventing any bloodshed.
Kenny said himself you made the right choice when you shoot him. Clearly he disagrees with you OP.
I believe that AJ and Clem will change him back. I mean, they specifically said that they should check back in a few months, it's pretty much foreshadowing. God, this episode was so stressful, the choices, Luke, Bike, (FUCK THEM.) But it was beautiful. I just couldn't bring myself to leave Kenny.
Let's hope it has a damn DLC :l
Nope, he only said that in the heat of the moment, he wants AJ and Clem to be safe more than he wants to be a rest, "You don't just end it because it's hard, you stick it out and you help the folks you care about!" - he lived up to his sentence, he sacrificed his peace of mind for them to be safe.
Plus, I don't care if he disagrees, this is my point of view on him.
" you made the right choice, I let you both down" - Kenny
Truer words have never been spoken. RIH old boy.
You're just teasing me now ._.
Bullshit, she came back for Clem and saved the group.
You guys never give do you?!?! Look its okay that not everyone likes Kenny. Don't pick on other people for making different choices then you. Please mock people that didn't get the Kenny ending. From now on everyone's gameplay will be different. Can't you agree that the different choices that people make their walkthrough are unique. Please stop telling off non-Kenny fans, you making people unhappy. Tell-tales forums have been unhappy place latterly and its because a lot of people are auguring about they fav character that they will fight to the death to protect the from other peoples dislike of them.
Jesus, are you fucking kidding me?
Who said everyone has to love Kenny? Certainly not me! I gave my honest opinion, no hard feelings for anyone who picked otherwise, and no, I've never been what you call a "Kenny fanboy", this episode made him my favorite character in the game.
Oh lord, she actually wasn't going to leave a group of people and a baby for dead?!?!?!
Give me a fucking break, that doesn't mean she wouldn't abandon Clem, she abandoned her own sister for god's sake.
That makes 2 of us i dont mind people liking jane but i just like kenny more in my point of view so as i said that makes 2 of us we perfer kenny over jane if people dont like kenny and like jane fine by me everyone has there opinions like you said well said speech
She would leave them again if she was in danger, Kenny is 100 percent better to take care of Clem, he proved he would NEVER hurt her.
True, that. I might have been a bit offensive, but I am on edge right now, so my apologies. But I just want people to watch the Kenny endings and tell me they don't regret choosing Jane.
As noble as it was I just couldn't leave the man. Kenny to me is family and I don't leave family behind no matter what. Yes he wanted me and AJ to be safe, I get that, but I'd rather take my chances out there with Kenny than being in Wellington with complete strangers. Me and AJ is all Kenny has left, that goes both ways. The mans never walked out on me, had each others backs since season 1, I'm sure my Lee would approve of my choice and I have no regrets in doing it.
But think of what Kenny would've wanted, wouldn't he want to know they are protected and safe? We have to face the facts, they can only survive in Wellington, they can't breastfeed the damn baby.
I just couldn't break his heart, he was crying and begging me to go, it was his damn death wish and I had to do it, but I guess there is still something to sticking with him 'til the bitter end.
Yeah.
It's a risk, I wanted to play it safe, but it could work out for the best, who knows.
LOL so that's what it looked like
That over-capacity thing was bullshit imo, they can't just leave people for dead.
Well he did say "I oughtta slap you", which freaked me out a little at the time, but it was just to make a point.
He was happy enough I decided to tag along with him.
Kenny- "You're stubborn as a mule"
Clementine- "I wonder where I get that from" Both smile
I mean, we got another bag of supplies and got invited back to try again in a couple of months so there is still hope. Still, we've been through so much, can't walk out now. We stick together.
I'm pretty sure AJ would die, he can't grow up with no milk and only a blanket to keep him warm in the worst part of the winter, but I hope for you he does, it's a risk.