I feel like Ive been beaten. Emotionally.
After every blow this episode was harder and harder to go through. The Russian shootout was like being thrown into a fire, I made uncalculated and risky moves. As soon as Luke got shot, he was a dead man walking. All the bonding time with everyone was just adorable and they really did it with Luke. He chose us to open up to about his guilt and we got a ton of backstory and episode two Luke buddy was back and then CRUELLY taken away.
The choices in this episode literally stumped me. I never knew what was the smart thing to do, and there was never a smart thing to do. I was either laughing or sobbing uncontrollably. No in between.
All in all, during this episode I loved my group more, and every single one of them either died in Lukes case or showed me a simple fact. Humans are monsters. Absolutely everyone. There's no difference between a walker and a person. This episode is my favorite. Hand on heart, even if I am dead inside. Even if every second hurt, even the moments of laughter. This episode, especially the last scenes, were nightmarish. My sweet Clementine 
Thank you, Telltale. If season three is as good, I am DAMN excited.
RIP my dear Luke. I will forever miss you, but you're up there with Lee, and I'm sure he's patting you on the back for being there for Clem. You meet that 'one hell of a guy'.
10/10. They said this season was about Trust. And hell YES did they achieve that.
Lets start with Jane. She was my homegirl after she came back but by the end I was like NOPE.
Kenny pissed me off after he yelled at me, but in the end I was clinging to him.
Mike was my boy, but no fuck him. And Arvo.
Bonnie? She had 100% redeemed herself in my eyes. Until Mike Arvo and her decided to rob us of our supplies and only way out! Oh, and thanks for the shoulder wound, always wanted one.
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Yeah I 100% agree, this episode was fucking amazing. I still feel sad....
This is a different kind of hurt. It's pain, stabbing at the inside, but it's stabbing at nothing. 105 was all tears nothing else, but this was laughter, sobbing, anger crying the whole lot. I need sleep. I feel exhausted
This was an incredible finale.
To be honest I feel the exact same way. I felt like... Everything during this episode. Sadness,anger...etc. I feel exhausted too, emotionally and physically but I gotta stay up and study for school lol.
I really freaked out when Kenny started beating Arvo just like how Carver did with Kenny.. And the last fight scene? Jesus..
I thought nothing could top Lee dying. This was just as good. I have no idea how they will top this.
One of my favourite episodes of the entire franchise, I'm surprised there's even mixed reviews of it.
Maaaan how can you study after this?! Best of luck with it, im out for a couple of hours!
I was so pissed at him during that period. Also how he picked to do that over caring for me. That's when I was like no fuck you Jane is my girl. But in the end I wanted nothing but Kenny. They put me on a damn journey to make that happen!
I've been sobbing all night. Now I'm looking around youtube for let's plkayes reactions on the ending i chose.
Seeya!
You summed it up perfectly, girl. Great to see you on forums again, btw. ;D
After thinking about the ending for a bit, I feel like Clem ending up alone might've been the best option for my Clem after all, because like you said, everyone is either dead or screwed us over, which is what made the finale amazing, since none of us expected that. I ended up with Jane and the family only because I told myself before this episode I didn't want my Clem to end up alone again, and I'm still going back and forth on it, but I played with my heart and gut, and got what I got.
And there, there about Luke, we shall grieve together.
I also chose him in the end, but it was so difficult. The last scene was touching though
There is a line you can say to Bonnie when Kenny is fixing the truck "No one ever listens to me". It made me think how much of an influence we were, on how much the others cared about what Clementine wanted and of all the people I think Lee was the only person. That dream sequence reminded me that Lee valued Clem's opinion regardless of the choices made more so than many in season 2, even though you influence people they never seem to truly value your input. Like it usually is in the real world when adults will listen to kids but you just know that it will not change the course of things. In the end all that advice is true: Carver-"Your more like me than you think", Walter-"All war is man's failing as a thinking animal" (yeah I know he was quoting Steinbeck), First cop ins season 1-"It goes to show, people will up and go mad when they believe their life is over", Jane-"You know that you can make it on your own right?", Kenny-"Family is the only thing that matters"(may have messed that last one up). The way season 2 ends made me feel uneasy and sick, no matter what choice you make each of them has a selfish reason for you being theirs, neither of them chose to listen to you in a way that mattered. It's not a bash on the writing just an observation of their characters.
Don't know about you people but I couldn't take it anymore, when Clem was walking in the snow with Kenny and Jane missing I wanted to die. I knew that they could never get along and were going to use me as some sort of leverage. What a sickening choice - Choose the man slowly becoming a monster like Carver or the Governor or pick the woman who was closest to what Clem was turning into but who would knowingly push a person past their breaking point because she needed Clem to be with her (Jane was smart and capable of surviving).
I absolutely loved this episode.
I really enjoyed that scene at the campfire - I was stupidly smiling all along. They finally gave Luke some backstory and since that moment I felt in my guts, that they will kill him off :´-( His death was well written - in my game he died while he was saving Clem - like a hero, which he was always trying to be and which he was.I cried while he was slowly disappearing into the darkness .
I absolutely didn´t expect Mike ( and Bonnie - if she live ) to betray Clem. (I never trusted Arvo ) They took all the food and the car, so they practically doomed Kenny, Jane, Clem and AJ to death....
The last scene was touching! I cried. That broke me.
I avoided the forums for the entire wait. That stopped every bit of criticism in my body. I think we here overanalyse and hype and expect tooo much so when it's not what we want we are dissatisfied. This was all around perfect.
It reminded me so much of Season 1. Every choice I made felt wrong, every time something happened shit just got worse. And Telltale did to my emotions what Carver did to Kenny's eye. I shed so many tears in this Episode that I thought I would run out. I cried just as much, if not more than, I did during No Time Left.
I feel the pain of waiting for season 3...
I'm checking out all the lets plays, and so far, the fire scene can get 100 more timed cuter than it already is!
i laughed out hard when i first saw the Russian gang they where so stereotypical.
Had to come back for this babe of a finale!
See, we all have incredibly strong opinions of how Clem should end up. That is magic.As soon as the Kenny/Jane choice became apparent, I mentally decided Jane. As you know I'm not the biggest Kenny fan, but after believing Jane abandoned a baby to survive, I wanted her dead, but as Clem said in the dream sequence, I didn't want her to kill. Of course, as we find out later, Jane staged it. After that, I couldn't leave Kenny. After all we suffered through, I couldn't do it. I can't bear the thought of her alone again. Kenny is better than no one.
Fuck them all, Luke was the best. Not a single bad cell in the man's body. RIP my angel.
I agree with near everything you said except for the clinging to Kenny thing. But GODDAMMIT WHY DID THEY KILL LUKE LIKE THAT
Yeah, so far Clem has only been used by adults to guilt the other adult into making a choice. No one does value and respect her opinion like Lee did, maybe Luke did, but no one else did. But it was realistic. Zombie apocalypse or not, no one listens to kids. So no one listens to Clem. But that's what's amazing about the ending, we truly control where our Clementine goes.
Accurate observation on your part. They were using Clem and AJ to prove the other wring and had I Luke I would just take him. Jane pulled off something sadistic and Kenny already has anger management issues. I want Kenny because I know he won't abandon me to prove a point to someone.
Yeah, the episode was gut wrenching. Still feeling queasy about it.
But Kenny is so dangerous. Those two ideas of the road to evil being paved with good intentions and that we don't start off evil but get there one step at a time spring to mind. And yet I loved him, I just couldn't let him come after me like Carver did to Rebecca if I just left him. It wasn't easy killing him even though I saw right through what Jane was doing. I just hated them both at that moment so god damn much
How did Luke die for you? I tried to save him so fell in, when that walker grabbed Clem and Luke pulled it off...and then it gets his leg. It looked like he accepted his fate, he really gave his life saving Clem.
I chose Jane for that same reason too, and I didn't know for sure if she abandoned the baby, so I decided to trust she wouldn't stoop low enough to let a baby die. I was pretty mad when I found out she lied though, but I decided to forgive her because I didn't want my Clem to become a vengeful person. I still would've rather had an ending with Luke or Christa though, but seeing as I can't have either... being alone seems like the next best thing to me. But I like the idea of Clem building her own community, so I'm sticking to my choice with Jane.
I just wish Luke could've lived... he was obviously the best option in the end, since he was the only genuinely nice person left, but that's why they had to kill him.
Actually, she didn't lie. Kenny never gave her the chance to say anything, before proceeding to ham a female. XD
I'm just gonna pretend that Episode 5 didn't happen and that Luke is alive.
Luke is alive, guys.
Luke is alive.
I didn't even cry this episode, I just feel numb inside...
I was more upset by the fact that he had died at all! As was said above, he was the only good and not mean-spirited character left. Even Clem can be darker than Luke was! And TellTale decided he still had to die!!!!!!!
Not to mention I was SUPER pissed that the group didn't think to cross the river one at a time, with the exception of covering Arvo. What were they thinking going over all at once?!
I don't agree it looked like he accepted his fate though. But yes, in the version you mentioned, he does die a hero for Clem at least.
You are right, sad thing is in a world like that with the people that were around him I think he would have died anyhow, for all we know to Arvo just like Omid died to that restroom chick.
That may be true. * sigh * I still wish it wasn't though. Although looking back I can find Luke's death at least better than other characters' deaths, I think I would've been happier if Luke had had a death where he had died because he was too good (though not naively good) rather than because of some bad luck of falling through the ice.
I'm literally SOBBING right now from watching the Lee sequence. I need a hug.....
The shittiest thing I will ever make in my life
I hate saying it because Clem would never, but I expected her to. I believed she'd abandon the baby because she was always so uncomfortable of it. But I had one string principle during the episode, which was strengthened by the dream sequence. Clem will not kill unless her life is at stake. So I didnt pull the trigger and let things happen, so Kenny and I found the baby, and I felt like I did the right thing.
Luke would have been an ideal ZA partner. He'd never let her down, and they'd trust each other.
She had plenty of chances to tell him. He called her a baby killer, and all she said was dammit in return. And that was after the three/four minutes of Kenny trying to figure out where it was. All she had to say was AJ IS IN THE CAR.
Yeah, both of them sucked. Like little kids. But after his selfless sacrfice to let us live a better life in Wellington, I COULD not abandon him. NO WAY. It was too much sacrifice on his part and the old man wasn't going to live after losing the last thing clinging him to life.