No loyalty? Did you not see Kenny throw Clem out of his way multiple times during the fight with Jane. Did you not remember that Jane was th… moree one that got Clem out of the river when Kenny was too busy beating up Arvo. And did you not notice how Jane was the one who made Clem a fire when she was freezing to death while Kenny continued to beat up Arvo. I liked Kenny, but his anger just caused him to lose focus on what's important.
So, we are just going to forget that, when we first met Mike, Kenny was about to beat him senseless, just because Mike was TRYING to help Kenny work their assigned task??? So, bias??? Not really and AGAIN, they SHOULDN'T take people whom they cannot take care of. Why would you take a baby, knowing darn well that you are struggling way too much to survive yourself? It'd be selfish of you to then take that child, knowing that it may die, because of you. It's a lose lose situation, but their choice was not selfish. In the zombie apocalypse, choices get like that.
As far as giving him credit, he gets none, because they would've survived just as well without Kenny. Kenny was the tension in the group.
They were pretty damn biased against him, he wasn't that much of a threat, he did what's right, and yeah beating up the kid was harsh but wh… moreat isn't?
If they are so afraid of him, they should be afraid that AJ and Clem would stay with him, if they think he can take care of them better, then they just think he has a personal agenda against them, pretty damn biased .-.
And give him credit, cuz he did save them both after all, he managed to keep his promise.
I remember a certain Kenneth who once said something similar.
Fuck Jane. She came back because she heard gunshots and felt responsible for Clementine because she reminded her of her sister. She just didn't want to feel responsible for Clem's death, nothing more. Jane might genuinely regret abandoning her sister, but that doesn't excuse her being a manipulative bitch who created the entire situation.
Jane was looking for a new "little sister" in order to feel better about herself. If Clem tells Jane she doesn't know what she wants to do, Jane responds by telling her she should start doing so...Then not long afterwards she hides the baby and pretends it's dead in order to get Clem to kill Kenny, thinking everything will be all better once Clem realizes how "bad" Kenny is.
Kenny was completely right about her. Jane kept trying to rip Clementine from the group starting at Episode 4 when they had their little "girl talk" alone in the woods.
He may not be crazy but he isn't fully sane either. The Man was abusive and his temper was uncontrollable. Arvo was a little crap but Kenny beating him up didn't help at all.
He redeemed himself in the end but Clementine shouldn't be around him because he was incredibly violent and overrided her decisions.
Oh he is crazy. Rick Grimes crazy. But leaving him outside Wellington is a satisfying conclusion to his story. He leaves knowing that for on… morece he protected the people he cared about without them dying on him. And its fitting that someone from Season 1 lead Clem to safety.
Haven't played the episode yet but was definitely going to choose Kenny over Jane since there's more history there than with Jane and I knew Kenny no matter how insane he got he would always choose Clem and AJ over his own life.
But at the time nobody knew that. You didn't know Kenny was gonna get Clem to Wellington safely and realize he was a danger to the group while making that decision at The rest stop. At that time Kenny was insane and you had no clue where that road would lead. I'm not saying that killing Jane was a bad decision, I'm just saying I personally felt safer with Jane.
Close to zero? That mans pushed through hoards of walkers, seen his friends and family die before him, get his eye smashed in by a fuckin' mad man, took a punch from Larry (yeah, fucking Larry), took on a woman with a knife and went through more mental pain and even up there with the physical pain that any other character has experienced. Keeping Clem and the baby safe? Child's play.
He's fine, he might be a little out of it but he isn't broken. He's still the same old Kenny that's looking out for those close to him and that's enough for me.
Babies need to be breastfed to properly grow I think, it's not the only problem though.
Look, as much as I love Kenny, he's a broken man,… more and he knows that too, he told that to Clem, and I just think their chances of keeping both Clem and AJ healthy and safe are close to zero, but I guess time will tell.
I ended up shooting Kenny, but not because I hated him. On the contrary. I believed Jane, Luke and everyone when they said they were worried about him, but I really liked him.
I knew it was impossible, but I tried to break up the fight. I put myself between them. But then Kenny held that knife over Jane's chest, and I saw a man who deserved to rest. I was broken up over shooting him, but I felt no remorse, as I reassured him he'd be with his family (even though I don't believe, I roleplay my clem as a believer).
However, as soon as my suspicions were confirmed, I ditched Jane. I regretted not having the option to kill her right there, though.
I liked Jane and I liked Kenny. And THAT's the problem.
Jane came back and i was really glad she did, but there came a point
when I start… moreed to realize that she wouldn't help Clem in a dangerous situation.
When she came back she said something like: "I would never leave you "again" "
But she didn't keep her promise....
After the accident Jane walked away from Clem.
She didn't try to help her out of the car. She left her.
She broke her promise.
In this situation Kenny was the better survival choice.
* I wanted to go to Wellington. I didn't want to go back to Carvers place.
Gosh~ I mean: My whole group died to get me closer to Wellington and after everyone's dead I'm supposed to turn around?
No freaking way!
* Even though I couldn't trust Kenny blind, guessing what's on his mind is pretty easy.
Kenny loves his family and as long as you stay quiet about them, you won't have a problem.
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It's not something I think many people will like but I think after the leaving Kenny outside of Wellington ending he probably just went off, sat down and waited to die. Because really, he's protected the last two things in the world that mean something to him and then he probably felt at peace with dying and seeing his family again.... Then again I'm probably completely wrong and he'll be in season 3 or something
Oh he is crazy. Rick Grimes crazy. But leaving him outside Wellington is a satisfying conclusion to his story. He leaves knowing that for on… morece he protected the people he cared about without them dying on him. And its fitting that someone from Season 1 lead Clem to safety.
Well said my good sir kenny has done good for the group many times such as getting clem and aj to safety trying to start up a truck for us to have transportation he is a good person he says sorry if he ever outbursts at somebody kenny is a short fuse temper guy but still a kind 1 i hope we see kenny in season 3 and on a side note i chose kenny over jane because jane is unpredictable a mystery and sketchy overall kenny is the winner here since hes a nice group member to have he has kindness teamwork love in his heart hes a good character with tons of character devolpment i hope he appears in season 3 since i stayed at wellington since people died to get clem and aj there and overall thats the end of my opinion based post ;D
Haven't played the episode yet but was definitely going to choose Kenny over Jane since there's more history there than with Jane and I knew Kenny no matter how insane he got he would always choose Clem and AJ over his own life.
Kenny would never out and out commit suicide I think. He gets increasingly reckless and tries to throw himself into situations that would get him killed. But I don't think he's going to sit down and eat a bullet.
It's not something I think many people will like but I think after the leaving Kenny outside of Wellington ending he probably just went off,… more sat down and waited to die. Because really, he's protected the last two things in the world that mean something to him and then he probably felt at peace with dying and seeing his family again.... Then again I'm probably completely wrong and he'll be in season 3 or something
See your point. Can't imagine him latching on to another group though but he also doesn't seem the type of guy to want to try and make it alone... I don't know it's just, when I shot him during the fight with Jane and he died... He honestly looked the happiest I've seen him since Hershall's farm.
Kenny would never out and out commit suicide I think. He gets increasingly reckless and tries to throw himself into situations that would get him killed. But I don't think he's going to sit down and eat a bullet.
What do you mean that last step into true insanity? Jane shot a guy in the dick. IN THE DICK! You NEVER shoot a guy in the dick. THAT'S true insanity.
I thought you were cool, Rock.
I think Kenny's ending where he sacrifices himself so Clem and AJ can live safe in Wellington pretty much invalidates people saying he's beyond repair, really, or no longer himself deep down.
Kenny's quick to anger, but what he's been saying since EP4 turned out to be right. He distrusted Mike and Bonnie. He said Arvo would shoot Clementine the minute he had a gun on his hands. He was sure Wellington existed and was safe. What exactly didn't turn out to be true?
It's not the first time he was right about major things either,it's been happening since Season 1. He was the one to suggest Lee investigate the dairy . He prevented Larry from turning because it could happen really fast.He said Lilly was gonna lose it and turn on them eventually. He said leaving the motor inn was the best idea. He said they could find a boat in Savannah. He always distrusted Vernon. He advised against leaving the boat unattended.
Jane? She said Kenny was a ticking bomb and would explode eventually if he was left alone with Clem and AJ, but I guess he kinda proved her wrong when he sacrificed himself for them, you know. He's done that in the past, with Ben.
Kenny didn't really win anything. Insanity is his way of life now and he's always been too stubborn to change his ways. Every other character in the group faced insanity and were stronger than Kenny to not become a raging lunatic who wants to bully or kill people. His antics made situations more worse then it was and inevitably led to the destruction of the group. All of which put Clem and the baby in more danger then he realized. That he says he's afraid of himself is very scary and shows how unpredictable he is. Kenny is only memorable for his good intentions. Not as any hero.
I stuck with Kenny to the end. The entire group end sup using Clem...no one really cared about the Baby once Luke died. Only Kenny cared. He was messed up...but Bonnie, Mike, Jane...they were all cowards. Kenny didn't destroy the group. Their lack of working with him and the constant prodding did it to them. They rattled the hornets nest, thinking they wouldn't get stung...no common sense at all.
The man JUST lost Sarita, no time to grieve. The woman who he was entrusted to passes from the cold/the child birth/lack of ability to check on her because a bunch of damn crooks are holding them at gun point (Not saying they could have saved Rebecca but...she spent her last moments cradling a baby while a bunch of Russians are jabbering on about robbing them).
Luke dies and Kenny is the maddest about it.
Mike and Bonnie take the thief and become thieves themselves, trying to leave Jane, Kenny, Aj and Clem behind.
and here's my main point: If Kenny really was that off, do you think he'd have taken Jane along with him? Or worse, tell Clem to get the kid, snag some supplies and run off himself? No.
All through the game he's been about the group. Everyone else sat around and judged and when the chips were down, in it for themselves. Even at his worst this episode Kenny didn't lash out for his own sake. He was just sick of this world kicking everyone ass. Killing people he wants to protect.
It all goes back to Ben. He hated Ben more than anything, and with good reason...but in the end, he went back to save him, even in salvation came as a bullet to the brain.
Larry...killed but the reasoning was there. If he was turning, if he wasn't coming back alive if you resuscitated him...he just saved you. all. We'll never know but...there is logic to that. More logic than some.
Carver...it was revenge, but for all the people Carver killed, and for what he did to Kenny, i think it was deserving. All the people dead because of him.
Jane...she lost it. She kept provoking him, she wanted him to explode to prove she was right. She wasn't. You force anyone's back to the wall and they'll snap. It's a survival instinct. I let her die after it became clear I couldn't stop it.
He got hit with too much...and all he did was try to help. The group had no sense. They were fools...and it sucks.
In the end, my choice was to be with Kenny. My state of mind was that if Ken can't stay at Wellington, then Clementine and Alvin, Jr. aren't staying there either; so we're either all going in or we're all staying out. Ken and Clem have been known to each other since day 2 of the zombie apocalypse, they've been able to build up a relationship that's been built up very strong since then to now, and I refuse to forsake it because Wellington isn't accepting new members currently. However, Wellington isn't a bad option by any means necessary, it's a place of apparent safety where you can rest in knowing that you're at peace. Fortunately, Ken, Clem, and AJ, will hopefully be nearby Wellington and can try to become members again in a few months.
Ken embodied the characteristics of the caring and loving caretaker, that I firmly believed that he possessed in his nature, to a high degree in the season finale. Ken has such an abundant amount of love for Clem and AJ, that he selflessly suggested the idea of them staying at Wellington to provide a safer environment for them, which in turn leaves him out and about; and alone on his own. The way that Ken has demonstrated his care and love all throughout Season Two for Clem, shows me that much more as to why he is a humanitarian, in it that he places the refuge of Clem and AJ ahead of himself. Additionally, Ken issued a formal apology to Clem for his rash communications exchanged with her in Episode 4: Amid The Ruins, which shows to me his recognition of his wrongdoings, therefore instilling in him the "sane" person (who of which I securely conclude was already there), who realizes when he's been out-of-line.
Jane was morally wrong in her approach to try to cause Clem to see Ken's brokenness. Ken's brokenness was quite easy and clear to see, but it's all understandable when you observe things from a different perspective, so there's no need to go to drastic measures to get your point across to Clem, to where you lie to a little girl and a distraught man with the emotions of one who's been through more than you can imagine, losing his wife, son, and girlfriend, all in less than 2 years time. Irrespective of Jane's immoral behavior, I didn't want her to die in the fight with Ken, let alone to fight with him to begin with, but when you play around with the emotions of a father taking care of 2 children, who of which he looks at as his own, you're just asking for trouble due to the fatherly, protective instincts that a caring and loving parent possesses.
I soundly regard that Lee would've been very pleased with the course of actions of Ken. Sure, would he have been pleased with all of Ken's actions? Based on how I tailored my choices with Lee, no. But Lee would've been contended with knowing that Ken placed the safety of Clem and AJ above his, similar to that of Lee placing Clem's safety above his.
For my Ken in regards to my Clem, I quote Molly's words to Lee in saying, "And you be sure to take care of that little girl. You know she thinks the world of you.".
In the end, my choice was to be with Kenny. My state of mind was that if Ken can't stay at Wellington, then Clementine and Alvin, Jr. aren't… more staying there either; so we're either all going in or we're all staying out. Ken and Clem have been known to each other since day 2 of the zombie apocalypse, they've been able to build up a relationship that's been built up very strong since then to now, and I refuse to forsake it because Wellington isn't accepting new members currently. However, Wellington isn't a bad option by any means necessary, it's a place of apparent safety where you can rest in knowing that you're at peace. Fortunately, Ken, Clem, and AJ, will hopefully be nearby Wellington and can try to become members again in a few months.
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Kenny reminded me a lot of Joel from the Last of Us this episode, especially with the beard and green shirt. His unending desire to keep Clem and the baby safe no matter what was a large drive of his.
I shot Kenny, thinking that it is not him anymore, he went insane and this is best for him. He can finally rest, be with his family. And I wanted to kill Jane for what she did, but going with her was much safer for Clem. Now it turns out, that there are better endings (and worse endings) and I'm thinking about rewinding.
Can't believe i just cried like a baby...
I almost shot Kenny, i'm glad i didn't. Never thought i would like someone on this game as much as i liked Lee.
I'm glad i trusted him. Until the end.
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At the end (stay in Wellington ending), he even told her that he's afraid of himself, and that he might hurt her, would a person that is going insane be actually aware of him being a danger to society?
Nah, he just said he doesnt feel capable to take care of them and something bad may happen to them because of it, meaning he is getting too old to take care of an infant and a kid.
Not afraid of himself in a way of his insanity but in a way of his incapability to fulfill his tasks towards them in the future. Which is kind of logical. Wellington people are lot better equiped for this task then one lone survivor getting old.
I don't know if it had to do with him being "old" then just the situation. He doesn't have any food, water, or baby formula. His weaponry has to be low, and raiding/scavenging would only have gotten him so far.
At the end (stay in Wellington ending), he even told her that he's afraid of himself, and that he might hurt her, would a person that is goi… moreng insane be actually aware of him being a danger to society?
Nah, he just said he doesnt feel capable to take care of them and something bad may happen to them because of it, meaning he is getting too old to take care of an infant and a kid.
Not afraid of himself in a way of his insanity but in a way of his incapability to fulfill his tasks towards them in the future. Which is kind of logical. Wellington people are lot better equiped for this task then one lone survivor getting old.
At the end (stay in Wellington ending), he even told her that he's afraid of himself, and that he might hurt her, would a person that is goi… moreng insane be actually aware of him being a danger to society?
Nah, he just said he doesnt feel capable to take care of them and something bad may happen to them because of it, meaning he is getting too old to take care of an infant and a kid.
Not afraid of himself in a way of his insanity but in a way of his incapability to fulfill his tasks towards them in the future. Which is kind of logical. Wellington people are lot better equiped for this task then one lone survivor getting old.
I don't know I think if anything he got tougher with age. lol Season one Kenny got his as kicked left and right, older grey beard Kenny of Season 2 kicks the crap out of many people. Including a young survivalist woman who he outright beats and kills with his bare hands despite being cut by a knife. Season 1 Kenny got beat by a young survivalist woman pretty easily. lol
I wish I could of just told Kenny to go or walked away, but I went with Jane in the end. Kenny wasn't a bad person, but everything that had happened to him was causing him to become unhinged. Each time something happened it was making him worse to the point of murder.
He was always up for an argument even in season 1 and I had just had enough of it. He bought unneeded tension to the S1 group and it happened again in this group, only this time Mike, Bonnie and Jane weren't putting up with it.
I'm not happy with what Jane did and I kind of expected she hadn't really lost the baby, but I don't think she wanted it to end like that. After the first fight, she put her knife away, but Kenny went for her again and wasn't easing up. He wanted to kill her.
No, babies don't require breastfeeding to live, or even milk for that matter.
They, like all humans just need nutrients with enough protein and amino acids.
That means if those bags have any kind of food that isn't just (as in completely) spice, sugar or salt,
they can just smash it together with some snow into a paste that the baby can swallow and it's propably good enough.
Also, I hope you realize that the quote you attributed to Vaas is an Albert Einstein original...
Just seems very strange to name a game character as the source rather than the famous genius who actually came up with it....
Anyways, I chose to follow Kenny. He's family at at this point, and I'm sticking with him
for better or worse. At least I know who he is, and after Carver's crap, I'm not going to willingly put
Clem at the mercy of strangers again, even if it seems like a good idea at the time.
Babies need to be breastfed to properly grow I think, it's not the only problem though.
Look, as much as I love Kenny, he's a broken man,… more and he knows that too, he told that to Clem, and I just think their chances of keeping both Clem and AJ healthy and safe are close to zero, but I guess time will tell.
I'm saying killing Jane was a bad decision, nothing about how Kennys road ended up justifies it, and saying arriving at Wellington was the 'Right' ending or the 'Better' ending is incorrect because you're not excused for sitting and watching Jane die.
But at the time nobody knew that. You didn't know Kenny was gonna get Clem to Wellington safely and realize he was a danger to the group whi… morele making that decision at The rest stop. At that time Kenny was insane and you had no clue where that road would lead. I'm not saying that killing Jane was a bad decision, I'm just saying I personally felt safer with Jane.
"Did nothing wrong"? Are you kidding me? She pushed a mentally unstable man to his breaking point. That's more than doing something wrong. And thanks, we appreciate you telling us our choices are invalid, that's real mature.
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Yes and Kenny realized he was putting his loved ones in danger, thus he wanted them to be safe in Wellington WITHOUT him.
So, we are just going to forget that, when we first met Mike, Kenny was about to beat him senseless, just because Mike was TRYING to help Kenny work their assigned task??? So, bias??? Not really and AGAIN, they SHOULDN'T take people whom they cannot take care of. Why would you take a baby, knowing darn well that you are struggling way too much to survive yourself? It'd be selfish of you to then take that child, knowing that it may die, because of you. It's a lose lose situation, but their choice was not selfish. In the zombie apocalypse, choices get like that.
As far as giving him credit, he gets none, because they would've survived just as well without Kenny. Kenny was the tension in the group.
How do you know your ending was the best. Anything could happen to Clem in any of the endings.
I remember a certain Kenneth who once said something similar.
Fuck Jane. She came back because she heard gunshots and felt responsible for Clementine because she reminded her of her sister. She just didn't want to feel responsible for Clem's death, nothing more. Jane might genuinely regret abandoning her sister, but that doesn't excuse her being a manipulative bitch who created the entire situation.
Jane was looking for a new "little sister" in order to feel better about herself. If Clem tells Jane she doesn't know what she wants to do, Jane responds by telling her she should start doing so...Then not long afterwards she hides the baby and pretends it's dead in order to get Clem to kill Kenny, thinking everything will be all better once Clem realizes how "bad" Kenny is.
Kenny was completely right about her. Jane kept trying to rip Clementine from the group starting at Episode 4 when they had their little "girl talk" alone in the woods.
He may not be crazy but he isn't fully sane either. The Man was abusive and his temper was uncontrollable. Arvo was a little crap but Kenny beating him up didn't help at all.
He redeemed himself in the end but Clementine shouldn't be around him because he was incredibly violent and overrided her decisions.
Haven't played the episode yet but was definitely going to choose Kenny over Jane since there's more history there than with Jane and I knew Kenny no matter how insane he got he would always choose Clem and AJ over his own life.
But at the time nobody knew that. You didn't know Kenny was gonna get Clem to Wellington safely and realize he was a danger to the group while making that decision at The rest stop. At that time Kenny was insane and you had no clue where that road would lead. I'm not saying that killing Jane was a bad decision, I'm just saying I personally felt safer with Jane.
Close to zero? That mans pushed through hoards of walkers, seen his friends and family die before him, get his eye smashed in by a fuckin' mad man, took a punch from Larry (yeah, fucking Larry), took on a woman with a knife and went through more mental pain and even up there with the physical pain that any other character has experienced. Keeping Clem and the baby safe? Child's play.
He's fine, he might be a little out of it but he isn't broken. He's still the same old Kenny that's looking out for those close to him and that's enough for me.
I ended up shooting Kenny, but not because I hated him. On the contrary. I believed Jane, Luke and everyone when they said they were worried about him, but I really liked him.
I knew it was impossible, but I tried to break up the fight. I put myself between them. But then Kenny held that knife over Jane's chest, and I saw a man who deserved to rest. I was broken up over shooting him, but I felt no remorse, as I reassured him he'd be with his family (even though I don't believe, I roleplay my clem as a believer).
However, as soon as my suspicions were confirmed, I ditched Jane. I regretted not having the option to kill her right there, though.
It's not something I think many people will like but I think after the leaving Kenny outside of Wellington ending he probably just went off, sat down and waited to die. Because really, he's protected the last two things in the world that mean something to him and then he probably felt at peace with dying and seeing his family again.... Then again I'm probably completely wrong and he'll be in season 3 or something
Well said my good sir kenny has done good for the group many times such as getting clem and aj to safety trying to start up a truck for us to have transportation he is a good person he says sorry if he ever outbursts at somebody kenny is a short fuse temper guy but still a kind 1 i hope we see kenny in season 3 and on a side note i chose kenny over jane because jane is unpredictable a mystery and sketchy overall kenny is the winner here since hes a nice group member to have he has kindness teamwork love in his heart hes a good character with tons of character devolpment i hope he appears in season 3 since i stayed at wellington since people died to get clem and aj there and overall thats the end of my opinion based post ;D
Kenny would never out and out commit suicide I think. He gets increasingly reckless and tries to throw himself into situations that would get him killed. But I don't think he's going to sit down and eat a bullet.
See your point. Can't imagine him latching on to another group though but he also doesn't seem the type of guy to want to try and make it alone... I don't know it's just, when I shot him during the fight with Jane and he died... He honestly looked the happiest I've seen him since Hershall's farm.
Well, that same guy slapped Clementine. And knocked her out with a gun.. So yeah, Troy needed to die along with his master, Carver.
I can. To me, actions speak louder than words.
That's why I sided with Jane.
Oh I agree he needed to die. But you don't shoot a guy in the dick. That's just not cool, bro.
I think Kenny's ending where he sacrifices himself so Clem and AJ can live safe in Wellington pretty much invalidates people saying he's beyond repair, really, or no longer himself deep down.
Kenny's quick to anger, but what he's been saying since EP4 turned out to be right. He distrusted Mike and Bonnie. He said Arvo would shoot Clementine the minute he had a gun on his hands. He was sure Wellington existed and was safe. What exactly didn't turn out to be true?
It's not the first time he was right about major things either,it's been happening since Season 1. He was the one to suggest Lee investigate the dairy . He prevented Larry from turning because it could happen really fast.He said Lilly was gonna lose it and turn on them eventually. He said leaving the motor inn was the best idea. He said they could find a boat in Savannah. He always distrusted Vernon. He advised against leaving the boat unattended.
Jane? She said Kenny was a ticking bomb and would explode eventually if he was left alone with Clem and AJ, but I guess he kinda proved her wrong when he sacrificed himself for them, you know. He's done that in the past, with Ben.
The game heavily implied Troy was sexually harassing Jane.
That's not cool either.
And all the more reason he should die. But you just don't shoot a guy in the dick.
Kenny didn't really win anything. Insanity is his way of life now and he's always been too stubborn to change his ways. Every other character in the group faced insanity and were stronger than Kenny to not become a raging lunatic who wants to bully or kill people. His antics made situations more worse then it was and inevitably led to the destruction of the group. All of which put Clem and the baby in more danger then he realized. That he says he's afraid of himself is very scary and shows how unpredictable he is. Kenny is only memorable for his good intentions. Not as any hero.
I stuck with Kenny to the end. The entire group end sup using Clem...no one really cared about the Baby once Luke died. Only Kenny cared. He was messed up...but Bonnie, Mike, Jane...they were all cowards. Kenny didn't destroy the group. Their lack of working with him and the constant prodding did it to them. They rattled the hornets nest, thinking they wouldn't get stung...no common sense at all.
The man JUST lost Sarita, no time to grieve. The woman who he was entrusted to passes from the cold/the child birth/lack of ability to check on her because a bunch of damn crooks are holding them at gun point (Not saying they could have saved Rebecca but...she spent her last moments cradling a baby while a bunch of Russians are jabbering on about robbing them).
Luke dies and Kenny is the maddest about it.
Mike and Bonnie take the thief and become thieves themselves, trying to leave Jane, Kenny, Aj and Clem behind.
and here's my main point: If Kenny really was that off, do you think he'd have taken Jane along with him? Or worse, tell Clem to get the kid, snag some supplies and run off himself? No.
All through the game he's been about the group. Everyone else sat around and judged and when the chips were down, in it for themselves. Even at his worst this episode Kenny didn't lash out for his own sake. He was just sick of this world kicking everyone ass. Killing people he wants to protect.
It all goes back to Ben. He hated Ben more than anything, and with good reason...but in the end, he went back to save him, even in salvation came as a bullet to the brain.
Larry...killed but the reasoning was there. If he was turning, if he wasn't coming back alive if you resuscitated him...he just saved you. all. We'll never know but...there is logic to that. More logic than some.
Carver...it was revenge, but for all the people Carver killed, and for what he did to Kenny, i think it was deserving. All the people dead because of him.
Jane...she lost it. She kept provoking him, she wanted him to explode to prove she was right. She wasn't. You force anyone's back to the wall and they'll snap. It's a survival instinct. I let her die after it became clear I couldn't stop it.
He got hit with too much...and all he did was try to help. The group had no sense. They were fools...and it sucks.
In the end, family is all that really matters to a person.
Kenny's ending is much better and Emotional i cant belive that he wanted to sacrfice him self for us to to stay in wellington that shows he cares
I couldn't leave Kenny. Kenny and Alvin JR is the only family Clem have left, and family stick together!
Fuck jane Kenny is the best
In the end, my choice was to be with Kenny. My state of mind was that if Ken can't stay at Wellington, then Clementine and Alvin, Jr. aren't staying there either; so we're either all going in or we're all staying out. Ken and Clem have been known to each other since day 2 of the zombie apocalypse, they've been able to build up a relationship that's been built up very strong since then to now, and I refuse to forsake it because Wellington isn't accepting new members currently. However, Wellington isn't a bad option by any means necessary, it's a place of apparent safety where you can rest in knowing that you're at peace. Fortunately, Ken, Clem, and AJ, will hopefully be nearby Wellington and can try to become members again in a few months.
Ken embodied the characteristics of the caring and loving caretaker, that I firmly believed that he possessed in his nature, to a high degree in the season finale. Ken has such an abundant amount of love for Clem and AJ, that he selflessly suggested the idea of them staying at Wellington to provide a safer environment for them, which in turn leaves him out and about; and alone on his own. The way that Ken has demonstrated his care and love all throughout Season Two for Clem, shows me that much more as to why he is a humanitarian, in it that he places the refuge of Clem and AJ ahead of himself. Additionally, Ken issued a formal apology to Clem for his rash communications exchanged with her in Episode 4: Amid The Ruins, which shows to me his recognition of his wrongdoings, therefore instilling in him the "sane" person (who of which I securely conclude was already there), who realizes when he's been out-of-line.
Jane was morally wrong in her approach to try to cause Clem to see Ken's brokenness. Ken's brokenness was quite easy and clear to see, but it's all understandable when you observe things from a different perspective, so there's no need to go to drastic measures to get your point across to Clem, to where you lie to a little girl and a distraught man with the emotions of one who's been through more than you can imagine, losing his wife, son, and girlfriend, all in less than 2 years time. Irrespective of Jane's immoral behavior, I didn't want her to die in the fight with Ken, let alone to fight with him to begin with, but when you play around with the emotions of a father taking care of 2 children, who of which he looks at as his own, you're just asking for trouble due to the fatherly, protective instincts that a caring and loving parent possesses.
I soundly regard that Lee would've been very pleased with the course of actions of Ken. Sure, would he have been pleased with all of Ken's actions? Based on how I tailored my choices with Lee, no. But Lee would've been contended with knowing that Ken placed the safety of Clem and AJ above his, similar to that of Lee placing Clem's safety above his.
For my Ken in regards to my Clem, I quote Molly's words to Lee in saying, "And you be sure to take care of that little girl. You know she thinks the world of you.".
I just had to follow his damn death wish, they all died for them to grow and be kids! Be safe!
I had to make them stay, it's what Kenny wanted and honestly, I also wanted him to rest in peace.
And that's why I did what he wanted me to do, to stay happy.
Kenny reminded me a lot of Joel from the Last of Us this episode, especially with the beard and green shirt. His unending desire to keep Clem and the baby safe no matter what was a large drive of his.
I shot Kenny, thinking that it is not him anymore, he went insane and this is best for him. He can finally rest, be with his family. And I wanted to kill Jane for what she did, but going with her was much safer for Clem. Now it turns out, that there are better endings (and worse endings) and I'm thinking about rewinding.
Nah, he just said he doesnt feel capable to take care of them and something bad may happen to them because of it, meaning he is getting too old to take care of an infant and a kid.
Not afraid of himself in a way of his insanity but in a way of his incapability to fulfill his tasks towards them in the future. Which is kind of logical. Wellington people are lot better equiped for this task then one lone survivor getting old.
I don't know if it had to do with him being "old" then just the situation. He doesn't have any food, water, or baby formula. His weaponry has to be low, and raiding/scavenging would only have gotten him so far.
I think he's afraid of both, good point though.
I don't know I think if anything he got tougher with age. lol Season one Kenny got his as kicked left and right, older grey beard Kenny of Season 2 kicks the crap out of many people. Including a young survivalist woman who he outright beats and kills with his bare hands despite being cut by a knife. Season 1 Kenny got beat by a young survivalist woman pretty easily. lol
I wish I could of just told Kenny to go or walked away, but I went with Jane in the end. Kenny wasn't a bad person, but everything that had happened to him was causing him to become unhinged. Each time something happened it was making him worse to the point of murder.
He was always up for an argument even in season 1 and I had just had enough of it. He bought unneeded tension to the S1 group and it happened again in this group, only this time Mike, Bonnie and Jane weren't putting up with it.
I'm not happy with what Jane did and I kind of expected she hadn't really lost the baby, but I don't think she wanted it to end like that. After the first fight, she put her knife away, but Kenny went for her again and wasn't easing up. He wanted to kill her.
PS
Screw you Arvo.
No, babies don't require breastfeeding to live, or even milk for that matter.
They, like all humans just need nutrients with enough protein and amino acids.
That means if those bags have any kind of food that isn't just (as in completely) spice, sugar or salt,
they can just smash it together with some snow into a paste that the baby can swallow and it's propably good enough.
Also, I hope you realize that the quote you attributed to Vaas is an Albert Einstein original...
Just seems very strange to name a game character as the source rather than the famous genius who actually came up with it....
Anyways, I chose to follow Kenny. He's family at at this point, and I'm sticking with him
for better or worse. At least I know who he is, and after Carver's crap, I'm not going to willingly put
Clem at the mercy of strangers again, even if it seems like a good idea at the time.
I'm saying killing Jane was a bad decision, nothing about how Kennys road ended up justifies it, and saying arriving at Wellington was the 'Right' ending or the 'Better' ending is incorrect because you're not excused for sitting and watching Jane die.
IMO you made the right decision.
Lilly wasn't in the wrong then for killing Carly? the entire point is that Kenny is an exact replica of Lily this season.
He DID hurt her, in the Jane/Kenny fight he'll knock her around if you try to intervene.