To the people that likes Mike
Seriously, how you can like him after this?
He and Bonnie are traitors.
While i can understand some of you may like this junkie Bonnie, When Clementine got shot by Arvo he was just like "We have to go". He didn't even helped her, he didn't evem said that he's sorry to clem!
He just left her, stole all their supplies and ran off with his new lover Arvo.
How you can still like this POS?
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I liked Mike before that. When they were trying to go I just wanted to shoot them.
And I thought Bonnie was a bitch when she tried to save Luke event thought he told her that the ice was too thin and then blame Clem.
He was a complete and utter coward in the end, and a moron. Why the hell did he give Arvo a rifle? Surely he or Bonnie should have had it if anyone?
You have to look at it from their view. Kenny just beat arvo half to death, they just escaped from one madmen. They were scared
Mike tried to be the voice of reason, when that failed he left. Can't blame a man for that.
Dooming the remaining group by snagging all the junk however is another thing entirely, but as jane said I don't think they knew what they were doing, they just wanted to get away from Kenny, and Arvo had probably protested at the idea of brining Clem with them.
Stealing all the supplies, abandoning the baby and arming Arvo are all inexcusable acts in my book. The fact they decided to run after Clem was shot showed how much they really cared.
Oh I understand damn well why they did what they did. That doesn't make Mike and Bonnie NOT the worst people ever leaving Clem without any chances of survival AFTER she saved their asses from Carver's camp. spit fuck all three
I like Mike since i met him and Bonnie was an arse since 400 days for me. Now I hate both and next time I see them, telltale better make a shoot these fuckers option.
Bonnie and mike probably had their own love thing going on. This episode was extremely weak for a finale. Half the characters I hated and the only character I wanted to live except got AJ died.
Agreed, don't blame them for leaving but taking the supplies and the truck seemed out of character for them. Arvo especially, since even if he did get repeated beatings, it doesn't seem like he would shoot anyone for funzies and just has a really passive demeanor.
However, the thievery and fuck everyone else not in on the plot is unforgivable. I do think the writers did too big of jump of moral leap on the characters given their behavior in previous episodes.
Are we going to be mad at Clementine and the group for running away from Carver? Kenny made it pretty clear that he made the choices. They were just escaping the dictatorship of Kenny.
I didn't go rescue Luke just so Bonnie could die.
Best decision ever.
Now, if we could get to kill Mike and Arvo as well...
I just struggle to see their logic.
Apparently beating up Arvo is too far, but it's fine to leave a nine year old girl and AJ to starve/freeze to death?
But bonnie didn't die for me
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She dies if you [Cover Luke] and don't break the ice.
Oh, didn't know that. I didn't break the ice just in case I may have saved her.
Good, good.
Do anyone believe Mike knew Arvo before and that why he was being the nicest to him and try to run away together?
I liked the dudes.But now if I ever see them again,I will shoot then everywhere in their body.
Think about it from his perspective. This wasn't about Kenny hitting Arvo, it was about being trapped with a man on the brink, who could snap and was too stubborn to be talked down from anything. Wrong or not, Mike believed that Kenny and anyone who decided to stay with him were a lost cause. Also, I was less pissed at Mike than I was at Arvo or Bonnie, because Mike seemed genuinely distraught over what he was doing, whereas Arvo shot Clementine (after she surrendered the weapon no less!) and Bonnie coldly told him to leave her.
Seriously, fuck Arvo though...
I still like Bonnie, Mike and Arvo. They all had their reasons, whether or not you disagree with their viewpoint.
If they are traitors, couldn't you say the same for clementine,kenny and the cabin group? They all escaped carvers camp, so technically weren't they being traitors too?
They just left because they would've died if they didn't kenny is insane.
Yeah with all supplies.
Nice try, Arvo.
But Clem was the only person Kenny and Jane WOULDN'T intentionally hurt. (However they didnt see how emotionally abusive both Jane and Kenny were to Clem).
They had every justified reason to leave. And When I asked to be taken with them, Bonnie and Mike BOTH wanted me to go, Bonnie even said they shouldn't leave me.
But Arvo shot me, and it'd be unrealistic for them to try and carry me when Jane and Kenny would slit their throats regardless if both Bonnie and Mike would say it was an accident. (kenny for them stealing the Truck and Jane for letting Clementine get shot)
Curses, foiled again, and I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for the detective work of JohnyCl. Theme song starts to play
Johny, Johny Cl! hiehiehihie
credits rolls out
EDIT: This post has been posted twice. Goddamn echo.
No. Carver forced them into the "group". Kenny probably would've been more than happy to let Mike, Bonnie, Arvo leave of their on volition. Jane too for that matter. Kenny was still a risk to the group but I don't think he would've forced people along with him like Carver did.
Fuck the two of them. I hope they die out there.
Meh, if he was more than happy to leave pretty much EVERYONE in the group, he would of just asked clementine to leave with him.
It wasn't right. They help that much with Rebecca's pregnancy and abandon that baby with no supplies?
That's sad
and so that makes the episode ''weak'', it was the best TWDG episode ever, season 1 and 2 combined, for many reasons :
-the story was ACTUALLY tailored by how we played ! with 5 endings
-there were backstory in this episode, in episode 3, people bitched about the hugs not being involved, in episode 4, people said ''we want backstory, we don't even know season 2 characters'', now what ?
-the fight before the endings was original, it was a nice way to end the storyline, with a really really hard choice ! one thing i didn't like about amid the ruins was that it was too much like around every corner, but no going back was so original
-the choices were soooooooooooooo hard..
-the ending where you go to wellington and leave kenny made me fucking cry, more than season 1's ending, far more than that...
-why was it better than no time left ? well, the episode has so much feelings, not only sadness, that's how we felt in no time left, only sadness, in no going back, we felt happiness, when all the group were laughing and discussing,we felt anger, when bonne and mike became traitors, we felt deception, when luke died the way he did, we felt surprised, when we thought the baby died, and we felt sadness, if we go to wellington/kill kenny(determinant)
so what's your argument ? why was it weak ? because it was not long ? well, sadly for haters, it was !
Yeah letting a baby boy and little girl that saved their asses to die.
I had really liked Mike up to this point, and even Bonnie was doing OKish (I decided to try and save Luke so she was nice to me) but what they did really pissed me off to high hell. That truck belonged to kenny's imo, HE was the one who spent all his time trying to get it working while they sat around complaining about him, yet they were ready to steal the only form of transportation available and ALL the supplies, leaving a baby and an 11 yr old kid to the unknown. And helping Arvo? Okay, he may of not deserved the beatings he got from Kenny but come on, he had lied about his sick sister, ambushed the group and tried to run off, yet Bonnie and Mike helped his escape and even gave him a gun. Completely unacceptable, screw them.
Fuck them and the raccoon the rode in on. Ok, maybe not the raccoon...
I dislike Bonnie, but at least she stopped for 2 seconds to say sorry, still not enough but more than what Marvo did.
Marvo. I ship it.
I don't know, I think I still like Mike. He just really, really, really screwed up. He seems better than that to me.
I guess Bonnie ran because she didn't want to deal with Kenny
I can totally understand why they ran away. Kenny was unstable, teetering on the edge, and he was dangerous. The thing I have issue with is them stealing ALL of the supplies. They were killing AJ by doing that. They didn't even leave anything, they were taking it all.