BONNIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT !! I EXPECTED MORE OF YOU YOU .... WERE THE BEST BUT YOU STEAL FROM US AND INTEND TO LEAVE MY WHILE IM SHOT WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU CRAZZZY ASSS BITCH
MIKE WHY JUST BECAUSE OF (ARVO) FUCK HIM HE MADE LUKE DROWN YOU FUCKTARD
AND JANE !!! YOU TRY AND MINPULATE ME TO KILL MA BEST FRIEND OH HELLL NO
Nah, I'm pretty chill about the whole thing... well, ya know, apart from.... FUCKING COMMIE SCUM ARVO YOU PIECE OF SHIT AGOAIDGNASDFK@AASD
… more GODAMNIT MIKE YOU WERE MY BOY! YOU ARE NOT A TRUE URBAN!
IT'S NOT MY FAULT LUKE DIED BONNIE YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO RUN ON FUCKING CRACKING ICE YOU FUCKIN' JUNKIE
FUCK YOU JANE, FAKING THE BABIES DEATH. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU, I'M ON KENNY'S BOAT NOW BITCH
Kenneth, I am with you until the end. You're my family now.
I think I got that out of my system. Ahem.
Oh, one more thing.
FUUUUU-UUUUUUUUUUCK YOU NICK BRECKON, GOD DAMN YOU'RE GOOD.
How about a third ending where Luke is still alive but Kenny still beats up Arvo for Luke and Clem almost dying? Luke comes to you later on and tells you that they all plan to leave with Arvo. You have the option to take everything, including AJ, and leave with them. No Kenny though and they can at least try to convince Jane to come cause of her relationship with Clem and Luke. But then later on there is still some sort of conflict with Arvo, like maybe he tries to get Clem killed again. Maybe Jane does something that causes the conflict with her craziness. Could be plenty of possibilities of what could happen. Things could turn violent or maybe the group decides they need to split up and based on your relationships with Mike and Bonnie, maybe they'd decide that Arvo was in the wrong and they trusted Clem instead. Either way, I think Luke and Jane sides with Clem and you split off and they head down south and then there's your ending.
No stupid forced in fight with Kenny needed. No shoehorned in death of Luke just for the sake of him dying. And no random betrayal of characters who had never shown any inkling of doing something like that.
I'm guessing we didn't get a Luke ending because that would've entailed (in TT's opinion at least) Luke having to get into dirty conflict wi… moreth Kenny and/or Jane as well. I realllly would've liked Clem to go with Luke, but I'm so glad that they didn't show Luke stooping to Kenny's/Jane's level either; instead we just got beautiful endearing moments with him.
But you're right; there's still a lot of missed potential with Luke!
For some reason I don't think Luke is dead and he will be back season 3.
A couple of people have already made this comment and I agree with it, how epic would it have been if that final fight was Kenny versus Luke, that would have been a gut wrencher!
I think maybe that's where the writers were heading with it but once they knew they had a 3rd season it changed. Luke can easily have a near drowing and the fact that he's in icey water improves his chances of this so the writers can bring him back if they want to.
It's kinda funny but unless I see a characters brain destroyed or their insides ripped out there's always a chance they survived.
I don't think he's alive. If he would somehow got out of this lake, then he would head straight towards the house where the whole group was resting, and the group was there till the end of the day, and even probably for the most of the night. Sorry to say it but... there's no way Luke is alive and even if telltale would somehow bring him back, that would be ridiciolous in my opinion.
For some reason I don't think Luke is dead and he will be back season 3.
A couple of people have already made this comment and I agree wi… moreth it, how epic would it have been if that final fight was Kenny versus Luke, that would have been a gut wrencher!
I think maybe that's where the writers were heading with it but once they knew they had a 3rd season it changed. Luke can easily have a near drowing and the fact that he's in icey water improves his chances of this so the writers can bring him back if they want to.
It's kinda funny but unless I see a characters brain destroyed or their insides ripped out there's always a chance they survived.
I'd want him to come back too! Though it's unlikely, it's possible that another group could've found Luke if he managed to get out of the ice. E.g. there could have been other Russians from Arvo's group around that house, or perhaps the people (some users have hypothesized) that could've been threatening Arvo and who were forcing the meds from him. Or some other group who knows....
Luke did die offscreen after all if he was being pulled down by that walker. I'm just going to assume he's alive in that version....
For some reason I don't think Luke is dead and he will be back season 3.
A couple of people have already made this comment and I agree wi… moreth it, how epic would it have been if that final fight was Kenny versus Luke, that would have been a gut wrencher!
I think maybe that's where the writers were heading with it but once they knew they had a 3rd season it changed. Luke can easily have a near drowing and the fact that he's in icey water improves his chances of this so the writers can bring him back if they want to.
It's kinda funny but unless I see a characters brain destroyed or their insides ripped out there's always a chance they survived.
He did die onscreen though when you shoot the walkers, he simply drowns... Its sad, i truly wished his death was a mystery like Kenny's. And who knows, maybe they find a way around, but those odds are slim at best.
I'd want him to come back too! Though it's unlikely, it's possible that another group could've found Luke if he managed to get out of the ic… moree. E.g. there could have been other Russians from Arvo's group around that house, or perhaps the people (some users have hypothesized) that could've been threatening Arvo and who were forcing the meds from him. Or some other group who knows....
Luke did die offscreen after all if he was being pulled down by that walker. I'm just going to assume he's alive in that version....
No I know he died onscreen when you shoot the walkers. But in the other version he doesn't. I mean, Jane and Kenny are determinant too, so it would be nice if Luke was and he somehow came back later. But I know it's highly unlikely. ;_;
He did die onscreen though when you shoot the walkers, he simply drowns... Its sad, i truly wished his death was a mystery like Kenny's. And who knows, maybe they find a way around, but those odds are slim at best.
I really don't blame Arvo for wanting to leave, all things considered (though I do blame him for shooting Clem). But Mike and Bonnie wanting to sneak off in the middle of the night, stealing the truck and the supplies....unforgivable!
Mike and Bonnie's heel turn was such bullshit, and after Mike was the nicest and most thoughtful character of the damn episode.
Arvo shooting Clementine was also bullshit, and just felt like weak writing to cause everything to go nuts, at least in my choice where I couldn't bring myself to shoot Mike and dropped my gun.
I admit Breckon surprised me by not having the Kenny and Luke deal take over the story, but honestly, it just once again feels like a failure of the writing. I may not have liked that whole dynamic, but it was way too late to try and change it now. The "Kenny vs. Luke" hole was already dug, so find a way to climb out, don't just press the reset button. Logically, that final battle should have been between Kenny and Luke, not Kenny and Jane, but hey, I guess shock is more important than consistency now. Meh, I don't know anymore.
The Russians were that goddamn bad at shooting? Wow...
HOW DID THE BABY SURVIVE NINE DAYS? WE DON'T HAVE FORMULA!
Kenny dropped way the hell down for me as a character. He was a fucking chore the entire time, and I don't regret putting him down. That said, I still felt angry at Jane for what she did, hence leaving on my own with the baby.
I'll probably have more the more I think about it. But I'm done for now.
God, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone. I actually love Luke and when he died, I was devastated, but the way I deal with sadness is making stupid jokes so agh this is just my dumb way with dealing with his death. Again, I'm sorry and if you really want me to remove it I will.
I don't FUCKING know why most of the critics except IGN are giving this episode a 6/10 or a 3/5. This episode is actually WAAAYYYYY better than episode 3 or 4. I guess it's because Nick Breckon wrote it. Sure it wasn't as good than the season one ending but they should at least give Nick the credit for preventing Season 2 from falling into mediocrity like the overrated TV Show.
Yup, can't see people defending her actions. I understand Jane's reasons ofcourse... But the plan was so incomprehesibly stupid... On so many fking levels... I dont even....
Leave baby in a car in the cold with an open window surrounded by walkers - Check
Insult Kenny's dead family and girlfriend - Check
Pretend the baby died around the (in his mind) adoptive dad - Check
Not saying the baby is fine when you have a knife to your chest, piercing your skin - Check
Dying to prove a stupid fking point - Check
Then theres the constant badgering of Kenny and why being alone is allways better. Its not. She doesnt care about Sarah, would leave her to die, im sure however its speculation she would leave the baby if it cried too much and attracted walkers. She is a survivor, she doesnt care. And people claim it was the best way to go . I rather keep my Kenny around. And after the choice was made, its obvious it was the right choice to make.
I think out of all the betrayals, Jane's one felt 'forced' and slightly bizarre. Scratch that. Very bizarre! It just goes to show, people can complain about Kenny's mood swings all they want, but he's the only one who stuck with you through the end (if you chosen that path). Jane was, at the end of the day, selfish and disturbed to even do something like that!
Fuck you Arvo for not telling your guys that Clem didn't rob you, then shooting one of the only people who stuck up for you whenever Kenny kicked your ass. Fuck Bonnie for being irrational and blaming everyone but herself for Luke pulling a Titanic. Fuck you Mike! You seemed like a cool guy, then you decided to rob a baby and leave a shot little girl to die! Fuck Jane for everything. Just...everything. Just...fuck Jane's entire existence. And fuck you Gavin for being a fantastic actor and making me cry in two different endings!
God, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone. I actually love Luke and when he died, I was devastated, but the way I deal with sadness is … moremaking stupid jokes so agh this is just my dumb way with dealing with his death. Again, I'm sorry and if you really want me to remove it I will.
God, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone. I actually love Luke and when he died, I was devastated, but the way I deal with sadness is … moremaking stupid jokes so agh this is just my dumb way with dealing with his death. Again, I'm sorry and if you really want me to remove it I will.
God, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone. I actually love Luke and when he died, I was devastated, but the way I deal with sadness is … moremaking stupid jokes so agh this is just my dumb way with dealing with his death. Again, I'm sorry and if you really want me to remove it I will.
I cried like a little girl when Kenny told me to go to Wellington, it showed me how much he cared, how much he ALWAYS cared. That's why I refused to leave him. Saddest. Ending. Ever.
I tried being nice with you! I chose EVERY SINGLE friendly option! I even offered yon Rum, RUM! And you do what to thank me?! You shoot me when I am not a threat, when I'm unarmed?! You arr just a freaking coward, waiting for me to not be a threat anymore and THEN shooting me! I hope this shitbird crosses Nate's path.
Bonnie, Mike... I thought you were cool, I thought we were friends... But, no, you are just TRAITORS! You tried to steal all the supplies, OUR freaking car (Kenny got it working, therefore, in my book it's his) and tried to leave us like that... Without even talking about it... We could have just share the supplies and go on separated ways... We were like a dysfunctional family ;-; but you ruined it...
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WHY IS LUKE DEAD WHAT THE FUCK HE WAS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
AND WHAT THE FUCK MIKE AND BONNIE TRIED STEALING OUR SHIT AND HITTING THE ROAD WITH THE PRISONER
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS LUKE DEAD LIFE HAS NO MEANING ANYMORE
Nah, I'm pretty chill about the whole thing... well, ya know, apart from.... FUCKING COMMIE SCUM ARVO YOU PIECE OF SHIT AGOAIDGNASDFK@AASD
GODAMNIT MIKE YOU WERE MY BOY! YOU ARE NOT A TRUE URBAN!
IT'S NOT MY FAULT LUKE DIED BONNIE YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO RUN ON FUCKING CRACKING ICE YOU FUCKIN' JUNKIE
FUCK YOU JANE, FAKING THE BABIES DEATH. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU, I'M ON KENNY'S BOAT NOW BITCH
Kenneth, I am with you until the end. You're my family now.
I think I got that out of my system. Ahem.
Oh, one more thing.
FUUUUU-UUUUUUUUUUCK YOU NICK BRECKON, GOD DAMN YOU'RE GOOD.
BONNIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT !! I EXPECTED MORE OF YOU YOU .... WERE THE BEST BUT YOU STEAL FROM US AND INTEND TO LEAVE MY WHILE IM SHOT WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU YOU CRAZZZY ASSS BITCH
MIKE WHY JUST BECAUSE OF (ARVO) FUCK HIM HE MADE LUKE DROWN YOU FUCKTARD
AND JANE !!! YOU TRY AND MINPULATE ME TO KILL MA BEST FRIEND OH HELLL NO
Kenny I LUV YOU
LMAO Your picture remind me of Gavin thread
Aye, I've been converted to Gavinism.
How about a third ending where Luke is still alive but Kenny still beats up Arvo for Luke and Clem almost dying? Luke comes to you later on and tells you that they all plan to leave with Arvo. You have the option to take everything, including AJ, and leave with them. No Kenny though and they can at least try to convince Jane to come cause of her relationship with Clem and Luke. But then later on there is still some sort of conflict with Arvo, like maybe he tries to get Clem killed again. Maybe Jane does something that causes the conflict with her craziness. Could be plenty of possibilities of what could happen. Things could turn violent or maybe the group decides they need to split up and based on your relationships with Mike and Bonnie, maybe they'd decide that Arvo was in the wrong and they trusted Clem instead. Either way, I think Luke and Jane sides with Clem and you split off and they head down south and then there's your ending.
No stupid forced in fight with Kenny needed. No shoehorned in death of Luke just for the sake of him dying. And no random betrayal of characters who had never shown any inkling of doing something like that.
For some reason I don't think Luke is dead and he will be back season 3.
A couple of people have already made this comment and I agree with it, how epic would it have been if that final fight was Kenny versus Luke, that would have been a gut wrencher!
I think maybe that's where the writers were heading with it but once they knew they had a 3rd season it changed. Luke can easily have a near drowing and the fact that he's in icey water improves his chances of this so the writers can bring him back if they want to.
It's kinda funny but unless I see a characters brain destroyed or their insides ripped out there's always a chance they survived.
I don't think I have to balls to witness Luke drowning in front of me again...
I don't think he's alive. If he would somehow got out of this lake, then he would head straight towards the house where the whole group was resting, and the group was there till the end of the day, and even probably for the most of the night. Sorry to say it but... there's no way Luke is alive and even if telltale would somehow bring him back, that would be ridiciolous in my opinion.
ARVO, YOUR *** IS FUCKNIG ME B****
I'd want him to come back too! Though it's unlikely, it's possible that another group could've found Luke if he managed to get out of the ice. E.g. there could have been other Russians from Arvo's group around that house, or perhaps the people (some users have hypothesized) that could've been threatening Arvo and who were forcing the meds from him. Or some other group who knows....
Luke did die offscreen after all if he was being pulled down by that walker. I'm just going to assume he's alive in that version....
FU*K KENNY, why did you ruin everything and make me decide between you and Jane? ç_ç (I still love you though)
FU*K LEE, you reminded me how much I miss you
He did die onscreen though when you shoot the walkers, he simply drowns... Its sad, i truly wished his death was a mystery like Kenny's. And who knows, maybe they find a way around, but those odds are slim at best.
Bonnie, Mike and Arvo: I want a DLC that shows your deaths.
No I know he died onscreen when you shoot the walkers. But in the other version he doesn't. I mean, Jane and Kenny are determinant too, so it would be nice if Luke was and he somehow came back later. But I know it's highly unlikely. ;_;
I really don't blame Arvo for wanting to leave, all things considered (though I do blame him for shooting Clem). But Mike and Bonnie wanting to sneak off in the middle of the night, stealing the truck and the supplies....unforgivable!
Mike and Bonnie's heel turn was such bullshit, and after Mike was the nicest and most thoughtful character of the damn episode.
Arvo shooting Clementine was also bullshit, and just felt like weak writing to cause everything to go nuts, at least in my choice where I couldn't bring myself to shoot Mike and dropped my gun.
I admit Breckon surprised me by not having the Kenny and Luke deal take over the story, but honestly, it just once again feels like a failure of the writing. I may not have liked that whole dynamic, but it was way too late to try and change it now. The "Kenny vs. Luke" hole was already dug, so find a way to climb out, don't just press the reset button. Logically, that final battle should have been between Kenny and Luke, not Kenny and Jane, but hey, I guess shock is more important than consistency now. Meh, I don't know anymore.
The Russians were that goddamn bad at shooting? Wow...
HOW DID THE BABY SURVIVE NINE DAYS? WE DON'T HAVE FORMULA!
Kenny dropped way the hell down for me as a character. He was a fucking chore the entire time, and I don't regret putting him down. That said, I still felt angry at Jane for what she did, hence leaving on my own with the baby.
I'll probably have more the more I think about it. But I'm done for now.
FUCK YOU CLEM!!! YOU ARE NOT DOWN WITH KENNY....geez.
Kind of annoyed all that Luke and Kenny build-up was for nothing.
I'm going to say this in three special words that I mean with all my heart.
Luke's death sucked!
You hecked up Telltale! You hecked up.
Oh wait, that was 10 words...dang it T.T I'm making jokes but really I'm sad. Don't get me started on Kenny...
I WANT LUKE BACK. PLEASE. FUCK JANE/KENNY. LUKE.
That fucking scene though, with Kenny and Clem at Wellington. That was my fucking highlight of gaming history.
God, sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone. I actually love Luke and when he died, I was devastated, but the way I deal with sadness is making stupid jokes so agh this is just my dumb way with dealing with his death. Again, I'm sorry and if you really want me to remove it I will.
Pizza or Ice-cream was Jane or Kenny?
...seriously?
Luke got more character development this one episode than he had from Episode 1-4.
Here's hoping Kenny beat that little shitbird Arvo again after he shot Clem, then left him to freeze to death.
Clem:Jane, you're fucking crazy!
I don't FUCKING know why most of the critics except IGN are giving this episode a 6/10 or a 3/5. This episode is actually WAAAYYYYY better than episode 3 or 4. I guess it's because Nick Breckon wrote it. Sure it wasn't as good than the season one ending but they should at least give Nick the credit for preventing Season 2 from falling into mediocrity like the overrated TV Show.
FUCK Metacritic
Yup, can't see people defending her actions. I understand Jane's reasons ofcourse... But the plan was so incomprehesibly stupid... On so many fking levels... I dont even....
Leave baby in a car in the cold with an open window surrounded by walkers - Check
Insult Kenny's dead family and girlfriend - Check
Pretend the baby died around the (in his mind) adoptive dad - Check
Not saying the baby is fine when you have a knife to your chest, piercing your skin - Check
Dying to prove a stupid fking point - Check
Then theres the constant badgering of Kenny and why being alone is allways better. Its not. She doesnt care about Sarah, would leave her to die, im sure however its speculation she would leave the baby if it cried too much and attracted walkers. She is a survivor, she doesnt care. And people claim it was the best way to go
. I rather keep my Kenny around. And after the choice was made, its obvious it was the right choice to make.
Edit: Double post.
Nope, he says they got away on foot. Somehow. Seriously, how does a guy with a leg brace escape just like that?
They only said Bonnie escaped not Mike and Arvo.
I think out of all the betrayals, Jane's one felt 'forced' and slightly bizarre. Scratch that. Very bizarre! It just goes to show, people can complain about Kenny's mood swings all they want, but he's the only one who stuck with you through the end (if you chosen that path). Jane was, at the end of the day, selfish and disturbed to even do something like that!
Like a Boss
Fuck you Arvo for not telling your guys that Clem didn't rob you, then shooting one of the only people who stuck up for you whenever Kenny kicked your ass. Fuck Bonnie for being irrational and blaming everyone but herself for Luke pulling a Titanic. Fuck you Mike! You seemed like a cool guy, then you decided to rob a baby and leave a shot little girl to die! Fuck Jane for everything. Just...everything. Just...fuck Jane's entire existence. And fuck you Gavin for being a fantastic actor and making me cry in two different endings!
People on this board are too damn sensitive. It was just a joke.
Don't worry, joke all you like, dealing with grief with anger or humor is all fine
If people dont get that, thats their problem.
Don't worry about Cope49. He's just an asshole to anyone he doesn't agree with.
I cried like a little girl when Kenny told me to go to Wellington, it showed me how much he cared, how much he ALWAYS cared. That's why I refused to leave him. Saddest. Ending. Ever.
Arvo you... you... YOU SHITBIRD!
I tried being nice with you! I chose EVERY SINGLE friendly option! I even offered yon Rum, RUM! And you do what to thank me?! You shoot me when I am not a threat, when I'm unarmed?! You arr just a freaking coward, waiting for me to not be a threat anymore and THEN shooting me! I hope this shitbird crosses Nate's path.
Bonnie, Mike... I thought you were cool, I thought we were friends... But, no, you are just TRAITORS! You tried to steal all the supplies, OUR freaking car (Kenny got it working, therefore, in my book it's his) and tried to leave us like that... Without even talking about it... We could have just share the supplies and go on separated ways... We were like a dysfunctional family ;-; but you ruined it...