If Kenny was introduced in season two, would you like hin?

Okay this is just something i've been thinking about for a while due to some hardcore Kenny fans. First of all i would like to say people can like Kenny, i'm not trying to to say you're wrong or dumb for liking him, i just feel that some people disregard some things he does BECAUSE he is Kenny.

But what if Kenny wasn't in season 1? Then all he would be is just some overly aggressive guy to uses violence before conversation all the time, would you still like him?

I know overall i kinda like Kenny, he redeemed himself if you save him at the end, i think. But overall i have to say that in this season he was not a nice person, he beat up arvo WAY too much, he just used him as a stress ball.

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  • People would like him way less. As they only saw unstable Kenny

  • Yes,because that person would remind me of Kenny.

  • Honestly, I might have actually liked him slightly better... I mean, I hated him in season 1 because he kept screwing my Lee over so maybe if it hadn't been for that, I would've had less of a problem with him?

  • My best friend in real life is named John. He is Kenny incarnate, they have the same personalities to a key. sometimes i laugh, when he does his Kennyisms, Of course i would be friends with Kenny.

  • I would not like him, the only reason i was not against him was because of season 1.

  • It would be very easy to like him a lot less because you didn't get to see what he went through. Kenny is how he is largely because of his experiences in Season 1. We saw from the beginning he was an emotional guy. And he watched his wife and son die because he wasn't good enough to stop it. He treated Ben wrong for the wrong reasons and his death haunted him even when he tried to save him(in my playthrough). His best friend in the world and the only guy who could calm him down(Lee) is dead and Clementine was the closest thing he had to family left. He finally gets to start over with Sarita and she gets killed. This is after he gets beaten nearly to death, etc, etc, etc... It's just one bad thing after another which makes him sympathetic. If you meet him how he is in Season 2 and you know nothing of why he's that way, he just looks like a dick.

  • No because this is not the Kenny we knew before. In season one we saw how Kenny could get when he lost someone, but then he almost sacrifices himself to save someone else. I /always knew Kenny is a good guy only because of season 1. If we had just met him in s2, I would have hated him most likely.

  • He has PTSD dude, he says in episode 5 how he didn't mean to kill jane, all he saw was black, he is talking about the rage people have sometimes with PTSD.

    No because this is not the Kenny we knew before. In season one we saw how Kenny could get when he lost someone, but then he almost sacrifice

  • After seeing and going through everything that happened. I think PTSD is likely in a guy like Kenny. My paternal grandfather had it after coming back from the war. And it takes all different forms. For my grandpa whenever he heard a siren(thinking it was an attack or an air raid), he'd freak out. Once he flipped over the dinner table and pulled us behind it to use as cover.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    He has PTSD dude, he says in episode 5 how he didn't mean to kill jane, all he saw was black, he is talking about the rage people have sometimes with PTSD.

  • "No granddad! It's just an ice-cream truck! D:"
    Just kidding, i shouldn't have joked about that.

    Juggtacular posted: »

    After seeing and going through everything that happened. I think PTSD is likely in a guy like Kenny. My paternal grandfather had it after co

  • This is like the best question I've come across since I joined this community. Anyway, in that case you wouldn't hate him but you wouldn't be his BFF either.

  • There actually were a few moments like that. Usually when police cars and ambulances were close by.

    Sakisaka posted: »

    "No granddad! It's just an ice-cream truck! " Just kidding, i shouldn't have joked about that.

  • CrazyGeorgeCrazyGeorge Banned
    edited August 2014

    PTSD is a serious disease, that affects 60% of all veterans. I have PTSD, like every other Vet that comes back. I wrote a song about it.

    Going through trauma is not rare. About 6 of every 10 (or 60%) of men and 5 of every 10 (or 50%) of women experience at least one trauma in their lives. Women are more likely to experience sexual assault and child sexual abuse. Men are more likely to experience accidents, physical assault, combat, disaster, or to witness death or injury.

    Sauce

    Sakisaka posted: »

    "No granddad! It's just an ice-cream truck! " Just kidding, i shouldn't have joked about that.

  • edited August 2014

    I actually liked him better in season 2.

    Season 1? He was some hillbilly angry man, barely keeping his shit together despite Lee calming him down every chance he got.

    Season 2? Despite being through even more shit, he actually manned up a bit and took on a Leadership role, despite his flaws (and admitting to them). In the end, he was the only one you could truly trust. Both ways. You could trust him to get angry when people poked in his wounds, but you could also trust him to risk his life for the group no questions asked.

    Everyone else? Pretty much out for themselves.

  • I would like him but not as much as I do now.Kenny reminds me of the old times when Clem was with Lee.

  • He would be liked much less yes.
    The man wasn't great in S1, But that history is what caused Clem to stay with him as long as she could and that really prevented us from making any big decisions.

  • yeah if you hate someone with PTSD you are ableist, people who shot Kenny are just sick, because everybody knows if someone has a disability you have to like them else you are ableist scum that should check their privilege and stop oppressing minorities

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    He has PTSD dude, he says in episode 5 how he didn't mean to kill jane, all he saw was black, he is talking about the rage people have sometimes with PTSD.

  • He had my back in Season 2.

    Skurkanas posted: »

    I actually liked him better in season 2. Season 1? He was some hillbilly angry man, barely keeping his shit together despite Lee calming

  • He would be liked much less yes.
    The man wasn't great in S1, But that history is what caused Clem to stay with him as long as she could and that really prevented us from making any big decisions.

  • Umm Kenny haters usually hate him because he's an abusive asshole. And Not everyone with disabilities will actively hurt others. Kenny may have PTSD, but his hypocritical and self-absorbed personality does not help.

    yeah if you hate someone with PTSD you are ableist, people who shot Kenny are just sick, because everybody knows if someone has a disability

  • edited August 2014

    Oops, internet did a thing. Kenny was a well developed character but Not all that likeable. He definitely added much unneccesary drama with his temper.

  • so typically privileged of you to not understand that his behaviour is part of his disability and to call him an abusive asshole is just sooo ableist i just can't even

    Krazehcakes posted: »

    Umm Kenny haters usually hate him because he's an abusive asshole. And Not everyone with disabilities will actively hurt others. Kenny may have PTSD, but his hypocritical and self-absorbed personality does not help.

  • A vet kills himself every 65 minutes. Would you like to make that into a joke as well?

    so typically privileged of you to not understand that his behaviour is part of his disability and to call him an abusive asshole is just sooo ableist i just can't even

  • i can't think of a punch line

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    A vet kills himself every 65 minutes. Would you like to make that into a joke as well?

  • I have a disability and if I was in the wrong I would let you kill me. So... yeah. And you don't have to like us.

    yeah if you hate someone with PTSD you are ableist, people who shot Kenny are just sick, because everybody knows if someone has a disability

  • I'd be like: "Fuck this asshole"

    And then we'd be in the truck, he'd say his hilarious lines and i'd be like: "You cool man, you cool"

  • Yes and this is corny but him cooing over the baby would win me over. I know, setting a cliche for my gender here. X.x

  • look, i don't know how long you have been on the forums, but i was making fun of the people from tumblr defence of sarah, i don't actually think that you have to like someone with a disability, i was basically saying the opposite of what i actually think, i was saying people should separate peoples disability from their personality during the whole sarah thing, it was a jokey reference to the whole death of sarah and telltale and ign being ableist saga, it was a joke, but i get how it might not seem that way if you didn't see the reference, and didn't actually mean to insult anybody with any disability, so i apologise if you or anybody else was offended by that

    CodPatrol posted: »

    I have a disability and if I was in the wrong I would let you kill me. So... yeah. And you don't have to like us.

  • Yes. I favor his "do what has to be done" mentality and how he is always so eager to protect those he cares about.

  • well, thanks for the understanding

    CodPatrol posted: »

    Okay...

  • Okay...

    look, i don't know how long you have been on the forums, but i was making fun of the people from tumblr defence of sarah, i don't actually t

  • well, thanks for the understanding

    (this may be a double post because it isn't showing up)

    CodPatrol posted: »

    Okay...

  • Uhh Not all people who suffer from PTSD abuse others? Also What part of PTSD caused Kenny to call Arvo a Commie, scream at him to Speak English/American and Kick him around and shove him around? Where was his PTSD there?

    so typically privileged of you to not understand that his behaviour is part of his disability and to call him an abusive asshole is just sooo ableist i just can't even

  • Umm when did Sarah's disability cause her to INTENTIONALLY harm others?
    You're joke against Sarah vs. Kenny really doesn't hold water since Sarah didn't deserve to die since she never wanted to hurt anyone whereas Kenny has 2 season's worth of abusive temper and violence to back them up.

    look, i don't know how long you have been on the forums, but i was making fun of the people from tumblr defence of sarah, i don't actually t

  • He'd be the villain in the group with a change of heart later in the game if that happened.

  • the joke was the defence tactics used

    Krazehcakes posted: »

    Umm when did Sarah's disability cause her to INTENTIONALLY harm others? You're joke against Sarah vs. Kenny really doesn't hold water since

  • Uhh Not all people who suffer from PTSD abuse others?

    Yeah most of us learn pretty quick to internalize our abuse.

    Krazehcakes posted: »

    Uhh Not all people who suffer from PTSD abuse others? Also What part of PTSD caused Kenny to call Arvo a Commie, scream at him to Speak English/American and Kick him around and shove him around? Where was his PTSD there?

  • Problem is that Kenny only cared about Clem and AJ. That's commendable and all, but he didn't give a damn about any of Clem's friends, which I have a problem with.

    Skurkanas posted: »

    I actually liked him better in season 2. Season 1? He was some hillbilly angry man, barely keeping his shit together despite Lee calming

  • This is a really interesting question. Everyone defends Kenny no matter what horrible thing he does because we know him from Season 1. We saw first hand what horrors and losses he suffered, so we sympathize with him. However, we didn't see, say, Jane's sister being devoured, or Luke's parents being killed, so most players don't sympathize with them nearly as much. It makes me wonder how differently people would view the Kenny/Jane fight at the end if Jane was the one from Season 1.

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