Maybe there's no Kenny fans because we know this is a thread aimed towards people who dislike him. Because you're asking Kenny fans or supporters to find things they didn't really want to say about Kenny or flat our didn't.
So yeah, that's why no Kenny fans don't post because we won't talking about the dialogue choices some of us didn't make.
All I can say, is it's TellTales game. They have every right to do what they want with it, and not everything they do is right or justified, but if they're producing it, and paying for it, then yes, they kinda get to choose how the story progresses. Yes, it kinda pisses me off that we couldn't choose Luke instead of Kenny. Yes, people have a right to dislike things about it. So yes, I will say more than likely TellTale was biased to Kenny. I won't act like they weren't.
Maybe there's no Kenny fans because we know this is a thread aimed towards people who dislike him. Because you're asking Kenny fans or suppo… morerters to find things they didn't really want to say about Kenny or flat our didn't.
So yeah, that's why no Kenny fans don't post because we won't talking about the dialogue choices some of us didn't make.
All I can say, is it's TellTales game. They have every right to do what they want with it, and not everything they do is right or justified, but if they're producing it, and paying for it, then yes, they kinda get to choose how the story progresses. Yes, it kinda pisses me off that we couldn't choose Luke instead of Kenny. Yes, people have a right to dislike things about it. So yes, I will say more than likely TellTale was biased to Kenny. I won't act like they weren't.
Yeah...I know. Mind if I ask why you don't sympathize with him though? I find it really hard not to feel bad for him, considering all he's l… moreost, and the situation of his death (Jane tricking him, him dying thinking that the baby is dead, and knowing Clem was the one who killed him).
And I think she was crying at the situation more than anything. She thought the baby was dead, and was forced to either shoot the man she's known longest in the apocalypse, or let him kill a woman who she had developed a very strong bond with. She also immediately stopped crying in both the situations when she found out the baby was alive, so there's no guarantee if she died at Jane's death or not.
But I DO agree that it was Kenny favored Episode 3 onward, you won't find me disagreeing with that.
At least a lack of options to dislike Clem in Saeason 1 was completely excusable, seeing as Clem was so much more likable. Meanwhile, players had tons of reasons not to sympathize with Kenny, making the games refusal to let you not sympathize with him incredibly baffling and unfair.
Just think of it this way. Say you were writing a book and you had a character you created that you really, really liked. You saw them as only a background character but after the support you get from your fans you decide to make them a bigger part of the story, so you do.
But when this happens, you end up failing to pay attention to other characters who fans also say they love and want to see more of. Everyone notices, and they begin to see that people are getting upset. But then you have made this character such a big deal, and they have become very important to you, but they begin to get too much of this character and popularity plummets. By the time you realize this, it's too late to actually change anything. So this side character who was good as a side character, ending up becoming a main character who was not as universally acclaimed by fans of your series as the other characters were. Uh oh.
I say TellTale did a good job either way. If Kenny had died earlier, it would've been fine. But I'm also fine with how things turned out. My biggest disappointment, it Luke died. Because tbh, I LOVED Luke so much better than Kenny or anyone else in the series. Luke would've been my ultimate choice, even if Luke had been in Jane's position at the end of EP. 5.
Just think of it this way. Say you were writing a book and you had a character you created that you really, really liked. You saw them as on… morely a background character but after the support you get from your fans you decide to make them a bigger part of the story, so you do.
But when this happens, you end up failing to pay attention to other characters who fans also say they love and want to see more of. Everyone notices, and they begin to see that people are getting upset. But then you have made this character such a big deal, and they have become very important to you, but they begin to get too much of this character and popularity plummets. By the time you realize this, it's too late to actually change anything. So this side character who was good as a side character, ending up becoming a main character who was not as universally acclaimed by fans of your series as the other characters were. Uh oh.
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At least a lack of options to dislike Clem in Saeason 1 was completely excusable, seeing as Clem was so much more likable. Meanwhile, player… mores had tons of reasons not to sympathize with Kenny, making the games refusal to let you not sympathize with him incredibly baffling and unfair.
You got to shoot the guy. Barring a dream sequence, you'll never see him again in your playthrough. What more do you want? To be able to shot him in the eye he lost for Clem? Maybe be able to cut off the hand he used to pick Lee up after Larry KOed him and left him to die at the drug store?
Seriously tho have fun with hanging with the psycho ho who lies to you by leaving a baby by itself with walkers all around just so she can manipulate you into killing a guy who would give his life for you.
Because when you say you care about someone, but don't show it.. after multiple chances, I'm just done with you. I'll go with woman who put aside her fear of groups to come help me. Someone who saved me out of the ice, and started a fire for me.
Because when you say you care about someone, but don't show it.. after multiple chances, I'm just done with you. I'll go with woman who put aside her fear of groups to come help me. Someone who saved me out of the ice, and started a fire for me.
We all have our complaints, so maybe Kenny fans are happier than most of the other fans. But I won't apologize for liking Kenny and enjoying his ending. All I wanted was Luke to live, and he didn't. Yeah I'm pissed he died. But I'm just happy we got to keep someone. Be it Kenny or Jane.
You got to shoot the guy. Barring a dream sequence, you'll never see him again in your playthrough. What more do you want? To be able to sho… moret him in the eye he lost for Clem? Maybe be able to cut off the hand he used to pick Lee up after Larry KOed him and left him to die at the drug store?
Seriously tho have fun with hanging with the psycho ho who lies to you by leaving a baby by itself with walkers all around just so she can manipulate you into killing a guy who would give his life for you.
That season 2 heavily favors Kenny. My challenge is that to find one instance, where Clementine completely agrees with someone trying to tel… morel her that Kenny's too unhinged, too out of touch..
No halfway agreement. Like you might be right
A COMPLETE agreement
Na. I got it man. You are mad because you couldn't just tell Kenny to F off completel. You even mad you had to listen to him babble after you shot him.
The exact quote from the Kill Kenny, Leave with Jane ending is
"You were right about Kenny". That is 100% agreement from Clementine, so I don't get why you say that you never get that with Jane. You can go watch Jane's ending, Clementine does 100% side with her like she does with Kenny.
If you shoot and kill Kenny, you never have a chance to completely tell Jane she was right about Kenny.
Like with Kenny...
You were ri… moreght about her ... she was unstable.. always looking out for herself.
Now, if you side with Jane. You don't get to do that.
I don't get it, really. If it's supposed to be subjective and about your Clementine, then there should be an option like that with Jane. Not being heavily sympathetic with Kenny all the way through.
That's because they had a common enemy.
When you have a common enemy, you put your differences aside to work together. So, no. Kenny only liked her because she agreed with her.
The way the game paints his death is still annoyingly sympathetic. It wasn't portrayed like, "Kenny was a lunatic and I had to put him down", it was "I feel so sad that I wasn't able to save Kenny, I wish things could've been different".
The exact quote from the Kill Kenny, Leave with Jane ending is
"You were right about Kenny". That is 100% agreement from Clementine, so I … moredon't get why you say that you never get that with Jane. You can go watch Jane's ending, Clementine does 100% side with her like she does with Kenny.
The exact quote from the Kill Kenny, Leave with Jane ending is
"You were right about Kenny". That is 100% agreement from Clementine, so I … moredon't get why you say that you never get that with Jane. You can go watch Jane's ending, Clementine does 100% side with her like she does with Kenny.
In order from greatest to least ...
1) A House Divided
2) All That Remains/No Going Back
3) In Harm's Way
4) Amid The Ruins .. (by a hair)
So yeah I agree!
I found it incredibly stupid that nothing short of attempted murder could convince Clem to 100% agree about Kenny's insanity. Good job on winning the challenge though, I guess :P
Na. I got it man. You are mad because you couldn't just tell Kenny to F off completel. You even mad you had to listen to him babble after you shot him.
After Kenny's dead though. I can find multiple instances when Clementine completely agreed with Kenny.
Killing Arvo
Not trusting Luke
Going in the morning with Rebecca.
Saying Reggie has drunk too much of the kool aid.
What, so you wanted to say how you wanted Clementine to feel about his death or something? Like instead of having a cutscene sympathizing with him you wish you could have chosen a dialogue option that says "He was insane" or "I wish I could've helped him"? I personally liked Jane more than Kenny, but sympathized with him. He has been through some shit, and it was finally over for him.
The way the game paints his death is still annoyingly sympathetic. It wasn't portrayed like, "Kenny was a lunatic and I had to put him down", it was "I feel so sad that I wasn't able to save Kenny, I wish things could've been different".
After Kenny's dead though. I can find multiple instances when Clementine completely agreed with Kenny.
Killing Arvo
Not trusting Luke
Going in the morning with Rebecca.
Saying Reggie has drunk too much of the kool aid.
I'm sorry. I thought you were asking Kenny fans to post in your thread. Don't worry about the arguing tho. I ain't got time for haters like that. I'll see my way out of your thread.
I'm simply ticked off that the game never gives anyone an option to not sympathize with Kenny at any point. I personally did sympathize with him, but I hated how obvious it was that Telltale was forcing that sympathy.
What, so you wanted to say how you wanted Clementine to feel about his death or something? Like instead of having a cutscene sympathizing wi… moreth him you wish you could have chosen a dialogue option that says "He was insane" or "I wish I could've helped him"? I personally liked Jane more than Kenny, but sympathized with him. He has been through some shit, and it was finally over for him.
I found it incredibly stupid that nothing short of attempted murder could convince Clem to 100% agree about Kenny's insanity. Good job on winning the challenge though, I guess :P
Yay, I win xD. I agree though, Season 2 is just like "Kenny was in Season 1, you liked him right? Of course you did, he was in Season 1. Wait, you didn't like him? Too fucking bad he's your new best friend now. Did I mention you met him before?" I thought Kenny was insane and shot him without hesitation when he was about to stab Jane. I'll miss him a lot, but I realize Jane was doing what she had to do to get Clementine to see what Kenny was. Not to mention, AJ wasn't Kenny's baby, he had no right to try to kill Jane for a BABY THAT WASN'T HIS.
Nah, I asked Kenny fans to find an instance where Clementine has completely agreed with someone about Kenny being insane. Not for why you chose Kenny over Jane.
I'm sorry. I thought you were asking Kenny fans to post in your thread. Don't worry about the arguing tho. I ain't got time for haters like that. I'll see my way out of your thread.
I'm not saying that Kenny cares about Clem like Lee did, that's easily untrue. That quote doesn't mean he didn't care though. He's said in the past that she's more than capable of taking care of herself.
Also, he doesn't beg Clem to kill him or anything if you don't shoot him, I think he realized that she'd made up her mind in that situation, so he welcomed death.
Easy. let him kill Jane and then shoot him ..
he says "do it, just do it"
We ALL know LEE would NEVER say such a thing like that. Unless he was bitten and was about to turn.
I realize Jane was doing what she had to do to get Clementine to see what Kenny was.
It's a shame because if the game had simply given Clem the option to acknowledge what Kenny was beforehand, Jane wouldn't have had to resort to something so drastic. Seriously Clem, you won't agree that Kenny's unstable unless you see him try to murder someone? Nothing else he did in the game tipped you off that he wasn't all there?
Yay, I win xD. I agree though, Season 2 is just like "Kenny was in Season 1, you liked him right? Of course you did, he was in Season 1. Wai… moret, you didn't like him? Too fucking bad he's your new best friend now. Did I mention you met him before?" I thought Kenny was insane and shot him without hesitation when he was about to stab Jane. I'll miss him a lot, but I realize Jane was doing what she had to do to get Clementine to see what Kenny was. Not to mention, AJ wasn't Kenny's baby, he had no right to try to kill Jane for a BABY THAT WASN'T HIS.
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Maybe there's no Kenny fans because we know this is a thread aimed towards people who dislike him. Because you're asking Kenny fans or supporters to find things they didn't really want to say about Kenny or flat our didn't.
So yeah, that's why no Kenny fans don't post because we won't talking about the dialogue choices some of us didn't make.
All I can say, is it's TellTales game. They have every right to do what they want with it, and not everything they do is right or justified, but if they're producing it, and paying for it, then yes, they kinda get to choose how the story progresses. Yes, it kinda pisses me off that we couldn't choose Luke instead of Kenny. Yes, people have a right to dislike things about it. So yes, I will say more than likely TellTale was biased to Kenny. I won't act like they weren't.
Indeed it is their game. I was just pointing out their failures in making the game subjective.
I value actions more than words. He was all talk and no game.
At least a lack of options to dislike Clem in Saeason 1 was completely excusable, seeing as Clem was so much more likable. Meanwhile, players had tons of reasons not to sympathize with Kenny, making the games refusal to let you not sympathize with him incredibly baffling and unfair.
Just think of it this way. Say you were writing a book and you had a character you created that you really, really liked. You saw them as only a background character but after the support you get from your fans you decide to make them a bigger part of the story, so you do.
But when this happens, you end up failing to pay attention to other characters who fans also say they love and want to see more of. Everyone notices, and they begin to see that people are getting upset. But then you have made this character such a big deal, and they have become very important to you, but they begin to get too much of this character and popularity plummets. By the time you realize this, it's too late to actually change anything. So this side character who was good as a side character, ending up becoming a main character who was not as universally acclaimed by fans of your series as the other characters were. Uh oh.
I say TellTale did a good job either way. If Kenny had died earlier, it would've been fine. But I'm also fine with how things turned out. My biggest disappointment, it Luke died. Because tbh, I LOVED Luke so much better than Kenny or anyone else in the series. Luke would've been my ultimate choice, even if Luke had been in Jane's position at the end of EP. 5.
if you own up to your mistakes and fix them, that does not make you a bad person.
I'm completely content with episodes 2, 3, and 4. Just not five.
And they pushed for a subjective ending...
MyClementine ..
Didn't feel like it Telltale, sorry.
I don't get what that has to do with whether or not you sympathize with someone...
You got to shoot the guy. Barring a dream sequence, you'll never see him again in your playthrough. What more do you want? To be able to shot him in the eye he lost for Clem? Maybe be able to cut off the hand he used to pick Lee up after Larry KOed him and left him to die at the drug store?
Seriously tho have fun with hanging with the psycho ho who lies to you by leaving a baby by itself with walkers all around just so she can manipulate you into killing a guy who would give his life for you.
Because when you say you care about someone, but don't show it.. after multiple chances, I'm just done with you. I'll go with woman who put aside her fear of groups to come help me. Someone who saved me out of the ice, and started a fire for me.
Kenny sacrificing himself to Carver for Clem didn't mean he cared about her then?
We all have our complaints, so maybe Kenny fans are happier than most of the other fans. But I won't apologize for liking Kenny and enjoying his ending. All I wanted was Luke to live, and he didn't. Yeah I'm pissed he died. But I'm just happy we got to keep someone. Be it Kenny or Jane.
You missed the complete point of this thread
Season 2 EP. 4 was the worst. Overall. Because everyone was just acting weird.
OP ask your question again in English pls
The only 100% complete agreement Clementine says at any point in Season 2 about Kenny's insanity is when you forgive Jane after killing Kenny.
In order from greatest to least ...
1) A House Divided
2) All That Remains/No Going Back
3) In Harm's Way
4) Amid The Ruins .. (by a hair)
So yeah I agree!
Na. I got it man. You are mad because you couldn't just tell Kenny to F off completel. You even mad you had to listen to him babble after you shot him.
The exact quote from the Kill Kenny, Leave with Jane ending is
"You were right about Kenny". That is 100% agreement from Clementine, so I don't get why you say that you never get that with Jane. You can go watch Jane's ending, Clementine does 100% side with her like she does with Kenny.
That's because they had a common enemy.
When you have a common enemy, you put your differences aside to work together. So, no. Kenny only liked her because she agreed with her.
You know exactly what I asked.
There's no way to prove that Kenny only cared about Clem because she agreed with him. That's your opinion.
The way the game paints his death is still annoyingly sympathetic. It wasn't portrayed like, "Kenny was a lunatic and I had to put him down", it was "I feel so sad that I wasn't able to save Kenny, I wish things could've been different".
After Kenny's dead though. I can find multiple instances when Clementine completely agreed with Kenny.
Killing Arvo
Not trusting Luke
Going in the morning with Rebecca.
Saying Reggie has drunk too much of the kool aid.
I think it was just awkward writing most of Season 2.
I found it incredibly stupid that nothing short of attempted murder could convince Clem to 100% agree about Kenny's insanity. Good job on winning the challenge though, I guess :P
I'm not sure if I should even argue with someone named
Kenny's beard..
You do realize you can disagree with him in all of those instances, right?
What, so you wanted to say how you wanted Clementine to feel about his death or something? Like instead of having a cutscene sympathizing with him you wish you could have chosen a dialogue option that says "He was insane" or "I wish I could've helped him"? I personally liked Jane more than Kenny, but sympathized with him. He has been through some shit, and it was finally over for him.
But she could've also completely agreed with Luke or another character in those situations, that's what I had my Clem do.
Easy. let him kill Jane and then shoot him ..
he says "do it, just do it"
We ALL know LEE would NEVER say such a thing like that. Unless he was bitten and was about to turn.
I'm sorry. I thought you were asking Kenny fans to post in your thread. Don't worry about the arguing tho. I ain't got time for haters like that. I'll see my way out of your thread.
I'm simply ticked off that the game never gives anyone an option to not sympathize with Kenny at any point. I personally did sympathize with him, but I hated how obvious it was that Telltale was forcing that sympathy.
Yes. But the challenge is find Clementine completely agreeing that Kenny's a psycho with someone else. Not heavily sympathize and say maybe...
So far, ONLY ONCE ... so I guess the challenge was won. But AFTER Kenny's death. lol-
Should I change it? XD
Yay, I win xD. I agree though, Season 2 is just like "Kenny was in Season 1, you liked him right? Of course you did, he was in Season 1. Wait, you didn't like him? Too fucking bad he's your new best friend now. Did I mention you met him before?" I thought Kenny was insane and shot him without hesitation when he was about to stab Jane. I'll miss him a lot, but I realize Jane was doing what she had to do to get Clementine to see what Kenny was. Not to mention, AJ wasn't Kenny's baby, he had no right to try to kill Jane for a BABY THAT WASN'T HIS.
Nah, I asked Kenny fans to find an instance where Clementine has completely agreed with someone about Kenny being insane. Not for why you chose Kenny over Jane.
I'm not saying that Kenny cares about Clem like Lee did, that's easily untrue. That quote doesn't mean he didn't care though. He's said in the past that she's more than capable of taking care of herself.
Also, he doesn't beg Clem to kill him or anything if you don't shoot him, I think he realized that she'd made up her mind in that situation, so he welcomed death.
It's a shame because if the game had simply given Clem the option to acknowledge what Kenny was beforehand, Jane wouldn't have had to resort to something so drastic. Seriously Clem, you won't agree that Kenny's unstable unless you see him try to murder someone? Nothing else he did in the game tipped you off that he wasn't all there?