So I guess the Kenny haters condone what Jane did?

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  • edited August 2014

    She could have stopped the fucking fight by saying "Kenny, Kenny, the baby's alright", Kenny would have put his Floridian O-O face and went "Wha--?" and then she explains what the fuck was the trying to prove. She didn't, she wanted to kill him.

    Why the fuck did she start bashing Kenny while driving?!

    NOT EVEN in a non-apocalypse you can you around joking with a baby's death, what the fuck! She was looking for a fight to the death. She got it (in my game).

    prink34320 posted: »

    I easily knew what Jane was playing at, I could see it in her expression and I could hear it in her words, I guess it's not that easy for ev

  • Someone that uses the same example as I did! Brilliant high fives

    Oh, wait, I can't, Lilly killed me.

    MayorMilk posted: »

    Okay, hold on a second- replace Kenny with Lee, and replace the baby with Clementine. You think Lee wouldn't act the way Kenny did and murder Jane?

  • Jane was repeatedly encouraging Clem to let people die. She did it with Sarah, she did it with Luke, and had she been around for more deaths she would've probably kept saying "It's too late, give up." Oh yeah I want my Clem to be with her.

    Revec posted: »

    Jane has saved more then just a few lives in season 2, so your post is wrong. As for her sister, she's already explained that.

  • How did you let that happen?

    Uh my Kenny left me (Lee) to die would not help me find clem

  • Same here, those last moments after the Lee flashback made me hate her with a passion.

    Yeah, Clem telling her to run away and she pushed her away instead. No, she didn't want a fight. /sarcasm I didn't hate Jane either until this episode...

  • Pretty much, God, I'm starting to think TTG should have imposed the player to kill off Jane in that situation...

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    But thats ok because its Jane that did it....if it was Kenny he'd be a dangerous rage monster who should be executed immediately...

  • Dont remember all the things i did

    Iacoucci77 posted: »

    How did you let that happen?

  • Did we read the same, LITERAL quote?

    Sardorim posted: »

    Because she knew it was a Death Match and that Kenny wasn't backing down. She didn't want Clementine to get hurt.

  • Duuude, it was some flawless logic, don't you dare saying the opposite or they gonna say you're just as crazy as Kenny and shit like that.

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    Ok...Jane makes a mistake and doesnt deserve to die Kenny makes a mistake, and deserve to die... What now??

  • Is that some sort of homophobic insult?

    slattern posted: »

    Kenny wanted to have sex with Luke too

  • Just to redeem herself, he didn't want Clementine, he wanted His Sister 2.0, a more obedient version that even kills the people she pisses off for the sake of it.

    Sardorim posted: »

    Wrong, she was always putting Clementine first.

  • Cluckers killed Luke.

    After TELLTALE killed Luke I did everything possible to kill Kenny.

  • No.

    Franubis posted: »

    Is that some sort of homophobic insult?

  • We cool then, we cool. [TV series Hershel's stare]

    slattern posted: »

    No.

  • I see no one has posted any examples of how Kenny is dangerous yet...

    Revec posted: »

    Nope. She wanted Clem to see how dangerous Kenny had become. If you saved Jane she even says she was really sorry and she didn't think he wo

  • Have my thumbs up sir!

    Jane's followers( more mature than calling them Kenny's haters) will try to find ANY little thing to go against Kenny so it's no surprise th

  • Jane revealed Kenny's true nature, that he would kill any of them for disagreeing with him or making a mistake. To be honest I didn't need convincing, he was a mad dog out of control and needed to be put down.

  • And youre ok with manipulative? Im not...

    KCohere posted: »

    That's your interpretation of her character, not mine. I agree that she has been manipulative but all those other traits, no. She is extremely cool headed even to the point of coldness, as Clementine pointed out.

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  • Hahaha... ! I dont think theres much more they can call me ;-)

    Franubis posted: »

    Duuude, it was some flawless logic, don't you dare saying the opposite or they gonna say you're just as crazy as Kenny and shit like that.

  • No, he lets you have your opinion. He may express anger or disappointment that you dont agree with him. But he doesnt try to influence your decisions, or maniupulate you like Jane.

    PaulKenneth posted: »

    And to everything else I said? I know that you only get that if you say that maybe Lee shouldn't have gone to get you, but the thing is usua

  • But Kenny isnt mad....hes sad, and hes angry. But hes certainly not mad!

    Sardorim posted: »

    No, Kenny did. When the episode started she had hope that Clementine could reach Kenny and stop his madness. Kenny constantly prove that wrong.

  • No, I'm not. But its not the same as being violent to the point where you scare everyone in your group off.

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    And youre ok with manipulative? Im not...

  • That wasnt murder. Clem did it to stop him from committing a murder in my playthrough. Clem only kills when she absolutely has to. She's not a murderer.

    Iacoucci77 posted: »

    I really don't get how someone can murder Kenny after the 2 seasons that they have been with him. Kenny is like a father to Clementine how c

  • Right, I'll tell everyone where I am with it, if you could just hear me out. Its weird, I completed the episode hours ago now and the ending has still stuck with me and has left me with a very uncomfortable feeling. (Videogames eh)

    Jane really caught me off guard in episode 4. In ep 3, I thought she would be the silent type of character who dies in a badass way. Then episode 4 comes along and I think to myself "This woman would be really good for Clem." I said after finishing episode 4 that I was gutted that she left and that I think the perfect group for Clem would be her and Luke (R.I.P).

    To say the choice was easy to shoot Kenny and save Jane would be a MASSIVE lie though. I finished the game about 3 hours ago now and I still feel quite empty and man, the tears when Kenny told me I did the right thing. I asked him myself for Clem and felt it was so right to what I was thinking, "Why did you make me do this?!". Not in a selfish way but because I did everything to stay loyal to him and keep him alive. But I just couldn't see him and let him murder someone who my Clem made such a quick bond and connection with. After shooting him, I tussled with Jane about her manipulation (which I expected anyway) but felt it was right to stay with her and she is an asset to Clem and Clem is a moral asset to her. I then chose to let the people into the base as I really have been fighting with keeping Clem as Lee's Clem, a girl who shows bravery and is loyal to others while also seeing the humanity in people. That is why killing the character who I had kept loyal to not only as Lee but as Clementine, for two seasons, was so heartwrenching.

    I watched the other Kenny ending with his redemption and while it is an emotional scene, I don't think my Clem would forget Kenny murdering someone like that in anger any time soon. BUT I don't know, I do have regret and yet I think I made the right decision.

    Arghhhh I don't know what to think. Am I making any sense?

    Also BRAVO TELLTALE YOU EVIL GENIUSES!!!

  • He wouldn't follow her to the car, he'd be too busy trying to murder her.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again...Do you really think that if she said that the baby was fine Kenny would have believed her?

  • What are other some other examples in which Jane tries to manipulate us? Because from my perspective it only happened once, and every other time she was just saying that Kenny was losing it and was behaving irrationally, which isn't false. If that counts as manipulation, then Kenny said just as much and as bad about her, like "We may have another Lily situation on our hands" and, "She's a bad influence" and, "She doesn't know how to respect people" and unrelated to Jane but again referencing Lily, he says "Remember the last time we had a working vehicle and just sat around on our asses?", which is clearly him trying to influence her.
    Just for the sake of venting over his faulty logic, he acts like everyone who doesn't want to go to Wellington wants to abandon AJ, when the entire idea of instead going someplace warmer that they actually know exists is for AJ's sake; they're two separate points entirely

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    No, he lets you have your opinion. He may express anger or disappointment that you dont agree with him. But he doesnt try to influence your decisions, or maniupulate you like Jane.

  • NOP, shooting Kenny was the fastest decision I made in TWDG

    Are U fucking kidding me -.-

  • I agree.

    Ninnuendo posted: »

    Jane revealed Kenny's true nature, that he would kill any of them for disagreeing with him or making a mistake. To be honest I didn't need convincing, he was a mad dog out of control and needed to be put down.

  • Jesus Christ SO MUCH THIS

    Franubis posted: »

    She could have stopped the fucking fight by saying "Kenny, Kenny, the baby's alright", Kenny would have put his Floridian O-O face and went

  • edited August 2014

    I wouldn't feel threatened if it was in obvious fear or defense of me. That'd be a realization that I shouldn't be freaking people out like, more so in front of Clem. You're just nitpicking with the knife pulling to provoke part. i don't condone what she did with the baby or Kenny, but he was the physical aggressor in that. She saved them so unsure what you mean by following them

    RavenTDA posted: »

    I dunno about you but if someone pulls a knife on me, there's no way in hell I'm going to trust them and am going to feel threatened no matt

  • My thoughts exactly. Take a like friend!:)

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    Lee and Kenny essentially had the same morals. The same ideas, Lee would often want to hold up and think it through. But he'd go with what K

  • edited September 2014

    I don't understand it either. I've gone back and played the episodes since Jane's debut, and it's disturbing to see just how wrong I was about her. She truly doesn't seem to care about anyone's feelings but her own. And I'm not sorry for this, but when she has that creepy smile on her face before she shoots Troy in the dick, that just screams "sick in the head" to me. Also, Jane's and Troy's interactions suggest she was extremely manipulative with him prior to escaping, and yes Troy was an asshole, but I can't be the only one who is weirded out by how easily she threw him to the walkers.(she didn't even kill him, she shot him in the frickin dick!) Or how nonchalant she acts about getting rid of Rebecca's baby, I understand that the baby is a liability, but to talk about such a touchy subject that is already weighing heavily on Rebecca's mind so casually is not ok. The only times when she seems to show true emotion, as in actually caring about someone, is when she talks about Jaime. But even then it's hard to get a clear reading on what she's feeling, because if she regretted leaving Jaime as much as she implies, why did she do the same exact thing with Sarah? And then she just up and leaves the group when "it gets too tense", even though she's partly at fault as to why it got too tense in the first place, because she slept with Luke. When things get too tough, Jane runs away to save herself. She did that with Jaime, she did that with Sarah, She's already done it to Clem once, so it's likely to happen again. What I've gathered from her character is that she doesn't want redemption for her mistakes, she just doesn't like feeling bad about them, and she wants to take the easy way out. She didn't like that Clem wouldn't just cut ties with Kenny and the group, so she attempts to force her to. I can't believe I ever liked Jane tbh.

    I agree, I'd rather be friends with a complete asshole who is always honest with me, than a person who lies to my face and manipulates me to get her way, because it's supposedly for my benefit, and she knows best in her head. Forgive me if I sound like a teenager, but I don't put up with that fake shit.

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    That's the one thing j don't understand about all the people who don't have a problem with what Jane did. They're excusing it saying Kenny w

  • Everyone has a different understanding of characters, sorry if I always look for the good intentions within a character's motives or actions.

    Franubis posted: »

    She could have stopped the fucking fight by saying "Kenny, Kenny, the baby's alright", Kenny would have put his Floridian O-O face and went

  • She put her knife away... if she wanted to kill Kenny she would've kept her knife out...

    RavenTDA posted: »

    No she didn't. If she really wanted to end the fight she could have either told him what happened to AJ and stopped lying to him as well as

  • Well it goes to show how each of our Clementines are different.

    ALIENANGIE posted: »

    Not my Clementine she didnt...she questioned every opinion I had!

  • yeah #MyClementine

    prink34320 posted: »

    Well it goes to show how each of our Clementines are different.

  • That wasn't Kenny's "true nature" it was his breaking point! After which he returns to his normal self and shows how much he really cares about Clementine and AJ when he begs and cries for Wellington to take them in while he leaves on his own.

    Ninnuendo posted: »

    Jane revealed Kenny's true nature, that he would kill any of them for disagreeing with him or making a mistake. To be honest I didn't need convincing, he was a mad dog out of control and needed to be put down.

  • Absolutely! He has always had his friends best interests at heart. Hes a good guy!

    Iacoucci77 posted: »

    That wasn't Kenny's "true nature" it was his breaking point! After which he returns to his normal self and shows how much he really cares about Clementine and AJ when he begs and cries for Wellington to take them in while he leaves on his own.

  • Thank you :-)

    Tinni posted: »

    My thoughts exactly. Take a like friend!:)

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