It's a fair theory to make. If they are in fact strained with supplies, the fact that they are still willing to help others helps their case even more.
'Consistently cared for clem'. Well not in my season 1 game where he refused to help rescue her, that's for sure.
And with Jane, you already have ALL the tools necessary to rebuilf it. Fences fell down, they can be put up. It wasn't hit by a bomb strike.
And why should Edith be a representation of every single person in wellington? It could easily be an overcrowded hellhole.
You're going on your headcanon rather than solid fact. All endings are valid, and Clem is confident in Jane's ending that they can rebuild it.
Stop trying to ruin other people's fun by saying their choice is wrong.
The way you said that about Kenny says to me that you're just angry most people shot him and the biggest group of people are with Jane, and as a result you're over-proportioning your arguments with statements of false certainties.
Except there is.
My Clem is with AJ in the fortress called Wellington. If Edith is an indication of the people in Wellington, then it's pro… morebably a great place.
If you stuck with Jane you're in the huge penetrable hardware store with a suspicious man. Not to mention that Jane might just up and leave one day and it really doesn't help that she sees the baby as dead weight. Food is also low.
If you went solo you're literally alone in a zombie apocalypse with no one watching your back and no one to talk to. The baby is also a zombie attracter with it's cries.
All the endings other than Wellington are punishment for not siding with the one person who consistently cared for Clem.
If you were Clem and had a baby to look after, which of the 5 scenarios would you think would be the most preferable? Wellington is by far objectively the most ideal for 2 children.
Take a like for sheer nerve of implying I wasn't already empathising with Clem's situation.
I would like one where we build a new community just as much as where we enter a preexisting one. At least if we build one, we can have some control over the rules.
Reasonable assumptions based on what was shown, unlike yours, which is just hyperbolic bullshit.
If they are strained on supplies why are they giving them away to every stranger? They could easily say "fuck off" and point a gun and it would still do the trick in getting people to leave. Lets say their supplies are running short, they are still giving away supplies. People like Carver would never do that.
We definitely don't know that they "have an entire community of people most likely filled with a variety of professions."
I can't believe I actually have to argue this point. Most adults in Wellington probably worked in a certain trade or studied a certain trade before the apocalypse, the probability that their professions aren't all the same is pretty god damn high. This point is literally common fucking sense.
No, we definitely do not know any of those things, they are assumptions. We don't know for sure that they are well off on supplies, hell, Ke… morenny didn't even open the fucking bag, could be human body parts in there. We definitely don't know that they "have an entire community of people most likely filled with a variety of professions." Edith could literally be the only fucking person there. She could be psychotic, the whole place could be psychotic, we don't know anything about it.
Well i could have just pointed out how crazy it is that you think a decision being right or wrong can be boiled down to what arguably results in the best future for yourself, but where's the fun in that.
Okay, fences go up again. Who keeps watch? At the same time who scavenges for food? At the same time as that, who protects? 1 man, 2 women, 2 children and a baby. Howes will get attacked by bandits.
Just the fact that they are willing to give supplies when they can easily say "fuck off" paints a good picture of the community. Wellington is the best place for Clem whether you deny it or not.
Hahaha
dat bias.
'Consistently cared for clem'. Well not in my season 1 game where he refused to help rescue her, that's for sure.
… moreAnd with Jane, you already have ALL the tools necessary to rebuilf it. Fences fell down, they can be put up. It wasn't hit by a bomb strike.
And why should Edith be a representation of every single person in wellington? It could easily be an overcrowded hellhole.
You're going on your headcanon rather than solid fact. All endings are valid, and Clem is confident in Jane's ending that they can rebuild it.
Stop trying to ruin other people's fun by saying their choice is wrong.
The way you said that about Kenny says to me that you're just angry most people shot him and the biggest group of people are with Jane, and as a result you're over-proportioning your arguments with statements of false certainties.
Take a like for sheer nerve of implying I wasn't already empathising with Clem's situation.
I would like one where we build a new communi… morety just as much as where we enter a preexisting one. At least if we build one, we can have some control over the rules.
In wellington she's with loads of strangers. I would hardly call that 'ideal', there could be real assholes in there, we just don't know.
Your're headcanoning and using it as an argument. Which is just silly.
Well i could have just pointed out how crazy it is that you think a decision being right or wrong can be boiled down to what arguably results in the best future for yourself, but where's the fun in that.
Guys really, people considered Janes ending "the bad one" as one its not as fulfilling for some people, Clem becomes either Screw what you think Jane or Nope, never trusting anyone ever again. Lee would definitely NOT want that. And two being Jane Tricked Kenny into trying to kill her.... ANYONE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT!If any other character was taking care of that baby and Jane walked in with no baby in her arms... They would kick her ass. And Kennys ending seems more fulfilling as they get to the place they wanted to go for the whole season and Kenny shows how he actually gives a fuck about you. All Jane wanted was for you to do what she wanted, aka get Kenny killed all because he didn't give a fuck about her. And please no flame wars/insults towards my opinion, I am simply not going to reply if that happens.
Except there is.
My Clem is with AJ in the fortress called Wellington. If Edith is an indication of the people in Wellington, then it's pro… morebably a great place.
If you stuck with Jane you're in the huge penetrable hardware store with a suspicious man. Not to mention that Jane might just up and leave one day and it really doesn't help that she sees the baby as dead weight. Food is also low.
If you went solo you're literally alone in a zombie apocalypse with no one watching your back and no one to talk to. The baby is also a zombie attracter with it's cries.
All the endings other than Wellington are punishment for not siding with the one person who consistently cared for Clem.
Okay, fences go up again. Who keeps watch? At the same time who scavenges for food? At the same time as that, who protects? 1 man, 2 women, … more2 children and a baby. Howes will get attacked by bandits.
Just the fact that they are willing to give supplies when they can easily say "fuck off" paints a good picture of the community. Wellington is the best place for Clem whether you deny it or not.
It's a fair theory to make. If they are in fact strained with supplies, the fact that they are still willing to help others helps their case even more.
Objectively Wellington is better.
If they are able to hand out essentials to outside travellers and waste a bullet then they are probably doing well on supplies. By the looks of things they have a good system going.
Whilst I do applaud your tireless efforts at consoling and reaching out with the Truth to the poor wretches now suffering the ironic vicissitudes of a lamentably piss-poor ending owing to their most incorrigible ways and a mindset so incurably depraved as to have lead them to attempt the monstrous act of deicide against the one-eyed Ancient, I find your Sabellianism rather suspicious and slightly discomforting nonetheless.
As marvellously overflowing as batty Uncle Kenny's beard may be, and as gloriously menacing as his Cyclopean visage is to behold, he remains distinct in his personhood from his ineffable source the Alfaðir Óðinn.
Please emend that last statement swiftly. We cannot countenance such preposterous heresies and allow dissension to be sown within the ranks so soon before we've had the chance to lay all our enemies low, abased and wallowing in their abject humiliation.
Whilst I do applaud your tireless efforts at consoling and reaching out with the Truth to the poor wretches now suffering the ironic vicissi… moretudes of a lamentably piss-poor ending owing to their most incorrigible ways and a mindset so incurably depraved as to have lead them to attempt the monstrous act of deicide against the one-eyed Ancient, I find your Sabellianism rather suspicious and slightly discomforting nonetheless.
As marvellously overflowing as batty Uncle Kenny's beard may be, and as gloriously menacing as his Cyclopean visage is to behold, he remains distinct in his personhood from his ineffable source the Alfaðir Óðinn.
Please emend that last statement swiftly. We cannot countenance such preposterous heresies and allow dissension to be sown within the ranks so soon before we've had the chance to lay all our enemies low, abased and wallowing in their abject humiliation.
i knew she was just testing kenny and that is why i let kenny kill her, i think if more people figured that out more people would have sided with kenny
i knew she was just testing kenny and that is why i let kenny kill her, i think if more people figured that out more people would have sided with kenny
Solo is definitely the worst position to be in. Noone to talk to and noone watching your back. Not to mention the crying baby which could alert zombies and people at any time, even when Clem is sleeping.
Howes is inbetween. You have food although not much and you have a small group, half of which you're not sure you can trust. Defence can be rebuilt but lack of people might make it useless. In this scenario Clem must still remain alert at all times. If you turn the people away you have an extra threat to worry about, but since the game purposely made the man come across as suspicious he might be a threat anyways.
We do know enough about each scenario and how it will turn out in each but Wellington has the best impression of all 5.
but it's also a good way to make people feel cheated out of the ending they wanted, i think a lot of people who got the alone ending (not all) did so because they were cheated out of the kenny ending
but it's also a good way to make people feel cheated out of the ending they wanted, i think a lot of people who got the alone ending (not all) did so because they were cheated out of the kenny ending
there is just not enough to go around if we keep bringing people in
Emphasis on the "if". They have enough to go around between the people in Wellington but if they keep adding more people they won't. AJ and Clem will hardly tip the scale and if hypothetically they do, it won't be significant.
If I was responsible for that baby, and I had to leave it behind for just a second to get fuel for the truck, only to have Jane convince Clem to "floor it", then find out that, not only did Jane have the child, but in the short few minutes of having him, she accidentally got him dead, I would lose it too. As much of a weakling I believe myself to be, and much of a pacifist I imagine I am, I would still probably try to at least beat her to a bloody pulp.
Guys really, people considered Janes ending "the bad one" as one its not as fulfilling for some people, Clem becomes either Screw what you t… morehink Jane or Nope, never trusting anyone ever again. Lee would definitely NOT want that. And two being Jane Tricked Kenny into trying to kill her.... ANYONE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT!If any other character was taking care of that baby and Jane walked in with no baby in her arms... They would kick her ass. And Kennys ending seems more fulfilling as they get to the place they wanted to go for the whole season and Kenny shows how he actually gives a fuck about you. All Jane wanted was for you to do what she wanted, aka get Kenny killed all because he didn't give a fuck about her. And please no flame wars/insults towards my opinion, I am simply not going to reply if that happens.
He's hardly going to make Clem feel guilty by saying it was the wrong thing to do. If he knew AJ was alive he'd probably feel like he failed him, afterall, everything Kenny did in episode 5 was to get AJ to safety.
You can tell when someone lacks intelligence when they claim one ending is right, When you are offered multiple. All I see you post about how everyone got the wrong endings if they didn't pick Kenny's Wellington ending.
I'm so pleased he got the Kenny ending. So far all the Youtubers I got either ended up with Jane or alone. It's great to know there's actually some variety out there!
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It's a fair theory to make. If they are in fact strained with supplies, the fact that they are still willing to help others helps their case even more.
Objectively Wellington is better.
If the best that you could come up with is a cheap straw man's argument, why'd you even bother replying?
Hahaha
dat bias.
'Consistently cared for clem'. Well not in my season 1 game where he refused to help rescue her, that's for sure.
And with Jane, you already have ALL the tools necessary to rebuilf it. Fences fell down, they can be put up. It wasn't hit by a bomb strike.
And why should Edith be a representation of every single person in wellington? It could easily be an overcrowded hellhole.
You're going on your headcanon rather than solid fact. All endings are valid, and Clem is confident in Jane's ending that they can rebuild it.
Stop trying to ruin other people's fun by saying their choice is wrong.
The way you said that about Kenny says to me that you're just angry most people shot him and the biggest group of people are with Jane, and as a result you're over-proportioning your arguments with statements of false certainties.
In wellington she's with loads of strangers. I would hardly call that 'ideal', there could be real assholes in there, we just don't know.
Your're headcanoning and using it as an argument. Which is just silly.
Take a like for sheer nerve of implying I wasn't already empathising with Clem's situation.
I would like one where we build a new community just as much as where we enter a preexisting one. At least if we build one, we can have some control over the rules.
Reasonable assumptions based on what was shown, unlike yours, which is just hyperbolic bullshit.
If they are strained on supplies why are they giving them away to every stranger? They could easily say "fuck off" and point a gun and it would still do the trick in getting people to leave. Lets say their supplies are running short, they are still giving away supplies. People like Carver would never do that.
I can't believe I actually have to argue this point. Most adults in Wellington probably worked in a certain trade or studied a certain trade before the apocalypse, the probability that their professions aren't all the same is pretty god damn high. This point is literally common fucking sense.
Well i could have just pointed out how crazy it is that you think a decision being right or wrong can be boiled down to what arguably results in the best future for yourself, but where's the fun in that.
Okay, fences go up again. Who keeps watch? At the same time who scavenges for food? At the same time as that, who protects? 1 man, 2 women, 2 children and a baby. Howes will get attacked by bandits.
Just the fact that they are willing to give supplies when they can easily say "fuck off" paints a good picture of the community. Wellington is the best place for Clem whether you deny it or not.
This of course implies Clem would even be given a leadership role, which she 100% will not be, so either way it's out of her control.
Or they could be real nice, we just don't know. Only difference between my claim and your claim is that there's evidence of the community being good.
Surely if one decision leads to a better future than the other decisions, that choice is the right one.
Guys really, people considered Janes ending "the bad one" as one its not as fulfilling for some people, Clem becomes either Screw what you think Jane or Nope, never trusting anyone ever again. Lee would definitely NOT want that. And two being Jane Tricked Kenny into trying to kill her.... ANYONE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT!If any other character was taking care of that baby and Jane walked in with no baby in her arms... They would kick her ass. And Kennys ending seems more fulfilling as they get to the place they wanted to go for the whole season and Kenny shows how he actually gives a fuck about you. All Jane wanted was for you to do what she wanted, aka get Kenny killed all because he didn't give a fuck about her. And please no flame wars/insults towards my opinion, I am simply not going to reply if that happens.
After Terminus, I noped on this opportunity.
Again though, We are only assuming it's a nice place.
Objectively, we don't know if it is, we can only speculate and give our interpretation, Wellington is only objectively better to YOU.
Except you're claiming your claim is a fact and is true, which it isn't.
After I shot him Kenny said I did the right thing.
Kenny's always right.
/thread
Then i don't know what problem you had with my original post, its clearly a fair representation of the opinion you state?
This play through (particularly near the end) shows just how much Kenny cares for Clem and AJ, as if they were his real family. So emotional.
alot of us were right, zack is just one in the majority anyways and somebody who clearly thinks straight.
We are all part of Kenny's family.
He is the Father, the Son, and the Uncle that's kind of nuts.
Amen, brother. Amen.
They said that they couldn't let Kenny, Clem, and AJ in because they didn't have enough supplies. They can't farm either, as it is too cold.
Really nice to see this. TheRadBrad also got the Wellington ending, but stayed with Kenny.
Whilst I do applaud your tireless efforts at consoling and reaching out with the Truth to the poor wretches now suffering the ironic vicissitudes of a lamentably piss-poor ending owing to their most incorrigible ways and a mindset so incurably depraved as to have lead them to attempt the monstrous act of deicide against the one-eyed Ancient, I find your Sabellianism rather suspicious and slightly discomforting nonetheless.
As marvellously overflowing as batty Uncle Kenny's beard may be, and as gloriously menacing as his Cyclopean visage is to behold, he remains distinct in his personhood from his ineffable source the Alfaðir Óðinn.
Please emend that last statement swiftly. We cannot countenance such preposterous heresies and allow dissension to be sown within the ranks so soon before we've had the chance to lay all our enemies low, abased and wallowing in their abject humiliation.
No offense but I can't stand this guy. His god damn giggle! It drives me insane. xD
Oh don't be so dramatic, I'm still clearly operating in a cosubstantial framework and never suggested otherwise. It's perfectly doctrinal.
Geez you make it sound like I'm packing my bags for Hindustan.
Ugh yeah it never stops. You should see him watching Carver's face get pulped, he thinks it's a laugh riot.
i knew she was just testing kenny and that is why i let kenny kill her, i think if more people figured that out more people would have sided with kenny
Your original post is nothing but a scarecrow argument.
Amen to that, but it was the perfect way to split the decision close to 50:50 or the ending to 33:33:33.
Solo is definitely the worst position to be in. Noone to talk to and noone watching your back. Not to mention the crying baby which could alert zombies and people at any time, even when Clem is sleeping.
Howes is inbetween. You have food although not much and you have a small group, half of which you're not sure you can trust. Defence can be rebuilt but lack of people might make it useless. In this scenario Clem must still remain alert at all times. If you turn the people away you have an extra threat to worry about, but since the game purposely made the man come across as suspicious he might be a threat anyways.
We do know enough about each scenario and how it will turn out in each but Wellington has the best impression of all 5.
It is objectively better.
but it's also a good way to make people feel cheated out of the ending they wanted, i think a lot of people who got the alone ending (not all) did so because they were cheated out of the kenny ending
You're twisting my words, never once did I claim it as fact.
Well this is The Walking Dead, you don't always get what you want.
Plus it's a game that even offers you a choice to rewind. I wouldn't sweat it too much, either take your ending, or rewind it, I don't honestly care.
Emphasis on the "if". They have enough to go around between the people in Wellington but if they keep adding more people they won't. AJ and Clem will hardly tip the scale and if hypothetically they do, it won't be significant.
If I was responsible for that baby, and I had to leave it behind for just a second to get fuel for the truck, only to have Jane convince Clem to "floor it", then find out that, not only did Jane have the child, but in the short few minutes of having him, she accidentally got him dead, I would lose it too. As much of a weakling I believe myself to be, and much of a pacifist I imagine I am, I would still probably try to at least beat her to a bloody pulp.
He's hardly going to make Clem feel guilty by saying it was the wrong thing to do. If he knew AJ was alive he'd probably feel like he failed him, afterall, everything Kenny did in episode 5 was to get AJ to safety.
You can tell when someone lacks intelligence when they claim one ending is right, When you are offered multiple. All I see you post about how everyone got the wrong endings if they didn't pick Kenny's Wellington ending.
If you know the youtuber Uberhaxornova he might also save Kenny im guessing but I don't know he hasnt uploaded his final parts yet..