Kenny saved Luke's life and the rest of the group. He could've taken the guy, yeah Jane was a help but she didn't save the day- the damage had already been done before she arrived.
Kenny has saved someone's life so many times that there is no way to keep the count, the last thing you want is to do the same count for useless characters like Luke or Jane.
Kenny has saved someone's life so many times that there is no way to keep the count, the last thing you want is to do the same count for useless characters like Luke or Jane.
She did it for Clem , not for Kenny and besides she has harmed Clem the most by manipulating her the entire episode , that manipulation turned Clem into a murderer (know it's not what she intended to do but yet it's how it went) .
Kenny was right in the scenario where you choose him , Jane could have stopped it any time she wanted but she didn't give up on jumping on him with the knife .
"Murder", yes Kenny came at her first. Yet after he was slashed in the stomach with the knife, he was ready to stop and she came running at him trying to gouge his eyes out. So what is it called when Kenny's shot? Because that's obviously murder to and Jane manipulated the whole event, I'm sorry but Kenny's death can't be fully justified as "not murder either" because he's still being murdered too. Jane's just as guilty as Kenny.
She did it for Clem , not for Kenny and besides she has harmed Clem the most by manipulating her the entire episode , that manipulation tur… morened Clem into a murderer (know it's not what she intended to do but yet it's how it went) .
Kenny was right in the scenario where you choose him , Jane could have stopped it any time she wanted but she didn't give up on jumping on him with the knife .
WAT???? This is is not even REMOTELY what happened. Kenny went at her full force from the beginning. She used her knife once to keep him back THEN PUT IT IT AWAY! Kenny tackles her at which point it was VERY clear nothing but her death would stop him! Its not murder when you stop someone else from murdering. Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
You Kenny fanboys are rewriting what REALLY happened to make Jane look bad. She was defending herself from someone who wanted her dead over a baby without even giving her the fucking chance to explain herself.
"Murder", yes Kenny came at her first. Yet after he was slashed in the stomach with the knife, he was ready to stop and she came running at … morehim trying to gouge his eyes out. So what is it called when Kenny's shot? Because that's obviously murder to and Jane manipulated the whole event, I'm sorry but Kenny's death can't be fully justified as "not murder either" because he's still being murdered too. Jane's just as guilty as Kenny.
Kenny has saved someone's life so many times that there is no way to keep the count, the last thing you want is to do the same count for useless characters like Luke or Jane.
She's not a bad person. She's just a crazy one with a reason to get rid of Kenny. Despite what the dialogue says, Jane only cares about Clementine because she looks to her as her replacement sister. This and the fact that she wants to get rid of him for the sake of getting a one-way back to Howe's with her with no issues. Yeah you might be thinkin "What? That doesn't make any sense at all". Take another replay through the episode.
(instert Jackie Chan mind blown meme here)
WAT???? This is is not even REMOTELY what happened. Kenny went at her full force from the beg… moreinning. She used her knife once to keep him back THEN PUT IT IT AWAY! Kenny tackles her at which point it was VERY clear nothing but her death would stop him! Its not murder when you stop someone else from murdering. Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
You Kenny fanboys are rewriting what REALLY happened to make Jane look bad. She was defending herself from someone who wanted her dead over a baby without even giving her the fucking chance to explain herself.
YET SHE'S THE BAD GUY? WHAT?
Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
So, I've got enough of this shit.
Let's see what REALLY happened.
Clem arrives without the baby, making Kenny be worried sick about it because it's with Jane, which is justified as we later will see.
Then Jane arrives, also without the baby. Fine. What? Definitley NOT fine!
What could possibly have happened for the baby to die, other than her killing it? AJ was alive after the car crash and when they ran away. It would be very unlikely that a walker got it if Jane doesn't abandon it.
Then there's a blizzard in which the walkers literally freeze, they can't do shit. How would the baby die? It wouldn't freeze in the 10-15 minutes it probably took Jane to carry it through a blizzard, with her giving holding it warm with her body.
She literally arrives with no reason as to why the baby is gone. She just implies heavily that it died, which there is no real explanation for other than that she wanted it to die and left it for the walkers.
Kenny already was in a bad mood, Jane mouthed off about his family, how he couldn't save them and everyone hates him and is afraid of him. He still asks her if she is ok after he steps on the brake, even though he clearly is pissed off. Also, Clementine has been shot and the only other people he seemed to have slightly liked, Luke and Mike, died or turned out to be douchebags.
AJ and Clem are the only things left that make him go on. He is a broken man, he has lost more than almost anyone we have met yet. He has lost Lee, Katjaa, Duck and Sarita, and for a long time he also thought Clem was dead. Of course that does stuff do you, do you seriously expect him to be all 'fuck it, who cares'?!
Kenny walks out to check the perimeter, if he really can't find AJ. Jane tells Clem to 'stay out of it', and doesn't explain what she meansa and what she is up to.
Kenny is back and is seriously pissed off. And I would be too if I was in his situation. I wouldn't go as far as he did, but he sure as hell is justified to be pissed off to hell and back.
He swings the first punch, but misses. Jane dodges and the first thing she does is to bring deadly weapons into it by pulling her machete.
'Don't kick a man when he's down and you already did kick him hard twice' - would be a fitting qoute.
Imagine: You are seriously pissed at someone, and you try to beat him up, then that of course isn't right. But then your opponent brings a knife with them? Jane provoked Kenny constantly after Clem was shot, and then threatens him with a machete. Would it have been that hard to just run away or just dodge him until either Clem calmed him down or he realized himself what he was doing? If you seriously think the man would kill you, wouldn't you just un away?
She puts her machete away and Kenny charges at her again. This might be the only thing he really fucked up. It was a mistake, but angry people make mistakes, and Kenny is known to be like this. In no way does that mean Kenny is now eager to kill her, it just shows that he can't let it rest that she killed a baby (it all indicated at this). Wow, how crazy.
She totally isn't crazy when she throws him to the ground and does the excact same thing Kenny did to Arvo. She doesn't listen when Clem calls her either, now does she? Then, when Clem tries to stop it by pulling her away, Kenny comes at her and she slashes his stomach with her machete, clearly trying to severly injure him. She might as well have kicked him in the nuts, it would have hurt like hell, but wouldn't have almost gutted him.
Now Kenny sees red, after she beat him several times even though she was one of the people who blamed him the most for what he did to Arvo and she has just tried to gut him. Only now Kenny is willing to go as far as to kill her. It is understandable and human that he is exploding at some point. There is a certain level of bullshit one can take, y'know?
Let's talk Lee. Lee was a great guy, no doubt, and I love him. But Lee killed a senator in a act of rage. Where is the difference between this situation and Lee murdering someone? Both saw red, both did something they later regretted. This is human, I've never seen anyone not having flaws, did you?
So it escalates, yes. After Jane is on Kenny again, trying to gouge out his eyeball with her bare hands. That isn't psychotic at all and wouldn't have led to his death by shock or bleeding out. Only now the choice pops up wether to kill Kenny or not.
He later even says he regrets it, that everything just went black and he realized to late what he was doing. Kenny has had enough, really. Punch after punch after punch. In this Episode alone, destiny bitchslapped him more than Jane in the entire series (she doesn't care about anyone but herself after Jamie's death, so it doesn't matter to her that they die).
And at any point, Jane could have stopped what was happening by just saying AJ was fine. Kenny says so himself, and I believe him. How sick must one be to
lock a baby in a car without knowing if it's safe to leave him, because things might head southways. If so, AJ would have died of hypothermia, thirst or his own shit infecting his ass! She would have left him there if he hadn't screamed, I bet you. He was in the way of her and Clem's 'sister relationship'.
let a 11 year old murder someone as close to her as Kenny to prove a point rather than just end it there and then by telling the truth
provoke someone she knows is dangerous to fight her
see Clem as a replacement for Jamie
Kenny redeems himself by sacrificing his life for Clem and AJ. We all know he won't make it on his own, he's too broken. But Jane? She was insane, but she was good at hiding it.
She was manipulative and wanted Clem all for herself, while Kenny only wants her to be safe.
Jane is the real bad guy for pushing Kenny over the edge of what any human can take, but you just can't accept it.
PS: Another thing: Where do you live that killing someone in selfdefense isn't seen as murder? It is murder, no matter the circumstances. You might get fewer years in prison, but you are a murderer if you shoot someone. There is always an alternative. Clem could have ran over there and kicked Kenny in the face or shot him in the arm even. But she killed him, and while I don't blame her for it, she clearly is a murderer.
(instert Jackie Chan mind blown meme here)
WAT???? This is is not even REMOTELY what happened. Kenny went at her full force from the beg… moreinning. She used her knife once to keep him back THEN PUT IT IT AWAY! Kenny tackles her at which point it was VERY clear nothing but her death would stop him! Its not murder when you stop someone else from murdering. Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
You Kenny fanboys are rewriting what REALLY happened to make Jane look bad. She was defending herself from someone who wanted her dead over a baby without even giving her the fucking chance to explain herself.
YET SHE'S THE BAD GUY? WHAT?
Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
So, I've got enough of this shit.
Let's see what R… moreEALLY happened.
Clem arrives without the baby, making Kenny be worried sick about it because it's with Jane, which is justified as we later will see.
Then Jane arrives, also without the baby. Fine. What? Definitley NOT fine!
What could possibly have happened for the baby to die, other than her killing it? AJ was alive after the car crash and when they ran away. It would be very unlikely that a walker got it if Jane doesn't abandon it.
Then there's a blizzard in which the walkers literally freeze, they can't do shit. How would the baby die? It wouldn't freeze in the 10-15 minutes it probably took Jane to carry it through a blizzard, with her giving holding it warm with her body.
She literally arrives with no reason as to why the baby is gone. She just implies heavily that it died, which ther… [view original content]
Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
So, I've got enough of this shit.
Let's see what R… moreEALLY happened.
Clem arrives without the baby, making Kenny be worried sick about it because it's with Jane, which is justified as we later will see.
Then Jane arrives, also without the baby. Fine. What? Definitley NOT fine!
What could possibly have happened for the baby to die, other than her killing it? AJ was alive after the car crash and when they ran away. It would be very unlikely that a walker got it if Jane doesn't abandon it.
Then there's a blizzard in which the walkers literally freeze, they can't do shit. How would the baby die? It wouldn't freeze in the 10-15 minutes it probably took Jane to carry it through a blizzard, with her giving holding it warm with her body.
She literally arrives with no reason as to why the baby is gone. She just implies heavily that it died, which ther… [view original content]
Hahahahahahaha, how pathetic is this one comment
Like seriously, you think people are jealous of you because on one forum more people agree with you?
Clearly most players of the game DON'T agree with you.
Kenny has saved someone's life so many times that there is no way to keep the count, the last thing you want is to do the same count for useless characters like Luke or Jane.
Comments
Well Kenny killed natasha and buricko so kenny saved the group ass
Just make Kenny and Jane the longest living determinant characters. I'll be happy with having Jane die in season 3 episode 5.
My goodness!
You're right, but that doesn't matter for the OP.
WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THAT JANE IS A PSHYCO BITCH AND WANTS TO GET RID OF KENNY AT THE END OF THE EPISODE.
And Kenny saved Luke's life. I don't see the point of this thread. Or at least add more to it.
Kenny saved Luke's life and the rest of the group. He could've taken the guy, yeah Jane was a help but she didn't save the day- the damage had already been done before she arrived.
Well, He saved Luke's life.. for all we know, Buricko could've shot Natasha. Dude can't aim for shit.
Buricko had the strenght to shoot with 1 arm and not fall down so i wouldnt say that, he was just taking pot shots because he was already shot
Cause that didnt happen in my playthrough.
Kenny has saved someone's life so many times that there is no way to keep the count, the last thing you want is to do the same count for useless characters like Luke or Jane.
"Useless characters like Jane and Luke"
U wot m8
Why do people think using all caps makes them right?
Selective memory.
Thats how Kenny apologists justify murder.
You jealous of my upvotes?
She did it for Clem , not for Kenny and besides she has harmed Clem the most by manipulating her the entire episode , that manipulation turned Clem into a murderer (know it's not what she intended to do but yet it's how it went) .
Kenny was right in the scenario where you choose him , Jane could have stopped it any time she wanted but she didn't give up on jumping on him with the knife .
"Murder", yes Kenny came at her first. Yet after he was slashed in the stomach with the knife, he was ready to stop and she came running at him trying to gouge his eyes out. So what is it called when Kenny's shot? Because that's obviously murder to and Jane manipulated the whole event, I'm sorry but Kenny's death can't be fully justified as "not murder either" because he's still being murdered too. Jane's just as guilty as Kenny.
Except when she put the knife away. And tried to tell him she didn't kill the baby.
(instert Jackie Chan mind blown meme here)
WAT???? This is is not even REMOTELY what happened. Kenny went at her full force from the beginning. She used her knife once to keep him back THEN PUT IT IT AWAY! Kenny tackles her at which point it was VERY clear nothing but her death would stop him! Its not murder when you stop someone else from murdering. Thats why self defense isn't considered murder by most of the civilized world.
You Kenny fanboys are rewriting what REALLY happened to make Jane look bad. She was defending herself from someone who wanted her dead over a baby without even giving her the fucking chance to explain herself.
YET SHE'S THE BAD GUY? WHAT?
It happens on every playthrough. It's before you even choose between them.
Neither of those characters were useless. Did you forget them both saving Clem's life?
Jealous of Kenny fanboyism. Nay.
"So what, you want a cookie? You want a cookie for doing a right thing?"
She's not a bad person. She's just a crazy one with a reason to get rid of Kenny. Despite what the dialogue says, Jane only cares about Clementine because she looks to her as her replacement sister. This and the fact that she wants to get rid of him for the sake of getting a one-way back to Howe's with her with no issues. Yeah you might be thinkin "What? That doesn't make any sense at all". Take another replay through the episode.
So, I've got enough of this shit.
Let's see what REALLY happened.
Clem arrives without the baby, making Kenny be worried sick about it because it's with Jane, which is justified as we later will see.
Then Jane arrives, also without the baby. Fine. What? Definitley NOT fine!
What could possibly have happened for the baby to die, other than her killing it? AJ was alive after the car crash and when they ran away. It would be very unlikely that a walker got it if Jane doesn't abandon it.
Then there's a blizzard in which the walkers literally freeze, they can't do shit. How would the baby die? It wouldn't freeze in the 10-15 minutes it probably took Jane to carry it through a blizzard, with her giving holding it warm with her body.
She literally arrives with no reason as to why the baby is gone. She just implies heavily that it died, which there is no real explanation for other than that she wanted it to die and left it for the walkers.
Kenny already was in a bad mood, Jane mouthed off about his family, how he couldn't save them and everyone hates him and is afraid of him. He still asks her if she is ok after he steps on the brake, even though he clearly is pissed off. Also, Clementine has been shot and the only other people he seemed to have slightly liked, Luke and Mike, died or turned out to be douchebags.
AJ and Clem are the only things left that make him go on. He is a broken man, he has lost more than almost anyone we have met yet. He has lost Lee, Katjaa, Duck and Sarita, and for a long time he also thought Clem was dead. Of course that does stuff do you, do you seriously expect him to be all 'fuck it, who cares'?!
Kenny walks out to check the perimeter, if he really can't find AJ. Jane tells Clem to 'stay out of it', and doesn't explain what she meansa and what she is up to.
Kenny is back and is seriously pissed off. And I would be too if I was in his situation. I wouldn't go as far as he did, but he sure as hell is justified to be pissed off to hell and back.
He swings the first punch, but misses. Jane dodges and the first thing she does is to bring deadly weapons into it by pulling her machete.
'Don't kick a man when he's down and you already did kick him hard twice' - would be a fitting qoute.
Imagine: You are seriously pissed at someone, and you try to beat him up, then that of course isn't right. But then your opponent brings a knife with them? Jane provoked Kenny constantly after Clem was shot, and then threatens him with a machete. Would it have been that hard to just run away or just dodge him until either Clem calmed him down or he realized himself what he was doing? If you seriously think the man would kill you, wouldn't you just un away?
She puts her machete away and Kenny charges at her again. This might be the only thing he really fucked up. It was a mistake, but angry people make mistakes, and Kenny is known to be like this. In no way does that mean Kenny is now eager to kill her, it just shows that he can't let it rest that she killed a baby (it all indicated at this). Wow, how crazy.
She totally isn't crazy when she throws him to the ground and does the excact same thing Kenny did to Arvo. She doesn't listen when Clem calls her either, now does she? Then, when Clem tries to stop it by pulling her away, Kenny comes at her and she slashes his stomach with her machete, clearly trying to severly injure him. She might as well have kicked him in the nuts, it would have hurt like hell, but wouldn't have almost gutted him.
Now Kenny sees red, after she beat him several times even though she was one of the people who blamed him the most for what he did to Arvo and she has just tried to gut him. Only now Kenny is willing to go as far as to kill her. It is understandable and human that he is exploding at some point. There is a certain level of bullshit one can take, y'know?
Let's talk Lee. Lee was a great guy, no doubt, and I love him. But Lee killed a senator in a act of rage. Where is the difference between this situation and Lee murdering someone? Both saw red, both did something they later regretted. This is human, I've never seen anyone not having flaws, did you?
So it escalates, yes. After Jane is on Kenny again, trying to gouge out his eyeball with her bare hands. That isn't psychotic at all and wouldn't have led to his death by shock or bleeding out. Only now the choice pops up wether to kill Kenny or not.
He later even says he regrets it, that everything just went black and he realized to late what he was doing. Kenny has had enough, really. Punch after punch after punch. In this Episode alone, destiny bitchslapped him more than Jane in the entire series (she doesn't care about anyone but herself after Jamie's death, so it doesn't matter to her that they die).
And at any point, Jane could have stopped what was happening by just saying AJ was fine. Kenny says so himself, and I believe him. How sick must one be to
lock a baby in a car without knowing if it's safe to leave him, because things might head southways. If so, AJ would have died of hypothermia, thirst or his own shit infecting his ass! She would have left him there if he hadn't screamed, I bet you. He was in the way of her and Clem's 'sister relationship'.
let a 11 year old murder someone as close to her as Kenny to prove a point rather than just end it there and then by telling the truth
provoke someone she knows is dangerous to fight her
see Clem as a replacement for Jamie
Kenny redeems himself by sacrificing his life for Clem and AJ. We all know he won't make it on his own, he's too broken. But Jane? She was insane, but she was good at hiding it.
She was manipulative and wanted Clem all for herself, while Kenny only wants her to be safe.
Jane is the real bad guy for pushing Kenny over the edge of what any human can take, but you just can't accept it.
PS: Another thing: Where do you live that killing someone in selfdefense isn't seen as murder? It is murder, no matter the circumstances. You might get fewer years in prison, but you are a murderer if you shoot someone. There is always an alternative. Clem could have ran over there and kicked Kenny in the face or shot him in the arm even. But she killed him, and while I don't blame her for it, she clearly is a murderer.
Stop saying that already. She never ever says something remotely close to that.
The person who killed Natasha hasn't been confirmedd
If saying "It was an accident" (which pretty clear means yeah he's dead, but I didn't want it, it was an accident) count as a try then I just can't
Comment of the year 10/10 would read again
In the Russian translation vitaly says to Kenny: Fuck yuo! You killied Natasha!
she the reason why they come here in the first place!
Hahahahahahaha, how pathetic is this one comment
Like seriously, you think people are jealous of you because on one forum more people agree with you?
Clearly most players of the game DON'T agree with you.
You mean saved Kenny from the gunfight she started after robbing Arvo and threatening to shoot him in the head?
Because...that happened.
Well, Calm your tits bro it was just a joke.
Exactly, she steals Arvo's gun even if you don't take his bag..
My tits are too sexual to be calm.
Also they're not tits they're other round things.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA