Except for that time in the pharmacy... and that time I needed to look for Clem... and that time I had to put his kid down for him... and that time I killed the walker in the attic for him... and that time he got Walter shot... and that time he drove the group apart... You've got a strange definition of "always" that seems to match up to "only when you're on his good side."
...right. But I was pointing out that I'm not seeing things from a "pro-Jane" point of view. She sucks too. Just because I'm not on either Jane's side or Kenny's side doesn't mean that I shouldn't give my opinion on the matter.
But Jane did provoke him, several times, before and after the baby went missing. She irresponsibly set the fight up in order to prove a point. The only thing she proved was that she was too immature to survive in the apocalypse. Seriously, whether Kenny is a hothead or not, your first priority should not be to make him angry whenever you get the chance; your first priority should be to keep everyone in your group safe. Provoking an emotionally scarred person by making fun of his dead family and hiding one of the last things he has left to live for is what I'd call failure to keep the group safe.
I liked Jane's character up until that point, honestly. But during the last half of the episode she revealed herself to be a child who would risk the lives of Clem and AJ in order to humiliate Kenny. So if you still like Jane, and chose to side with her in Episode 5, that's fine. It's your decision. But I sure as hell don't want anything to do with her.
Yep Kenny started the fight and people keep saying " Omg Jane provoked him " Well if you watch the scene you'd realise that Jane accidently lost the baby and Kenny just assumed she killed the baby -_-
I'm not even taking sides in this thing, Jane could have stopped him at any point by saying that the baby was alive and well but she didn't, Kenny didn't have to go as far as wanting to kill her but with his mental state it would have happened, they are both at fault here.
But Jane did provoke him, several times, before and after the baby went missing. She irresponsibly set the fight up in order to prove a poin… moret. The only thing she proved was that she was too immature to survive in the apocalypse. Seriously, whether Kenny is a hothead or not, your first priority should not be to make him angry whenever you get the chance; your first priority should be to keep everyone in your group safe. Provoking an emotionally scarred person by making fun of his dead family and hiding one of the last things he has left to live for is what I'd call failure to keep the group safe.
I liked Jane's character up until that point, honestly. But during the last half of the episode she revealed herself to be a child who would risk the lives of Clem and AJ in order to humiliate Kenny. So if you still like Jane, and chose to side with her in Episode 5, that's fine. It's your decision. But I sure as hell don't want anything to do with her.
...right. But I was pointing out that I'm not seeing things from a "pro-Jane" point of view. She sucks too. Just because I'm not on either Jane's side or Kenny's side doesn't mean that I shouldn't give my opinion on the matter.
She did that only to protect Clem.
Cmon, all we know that if Clem would lose the baby Kenny would kill her.... unfortunately this is the truth, and Jane knew this!
So you're saying you didn't know, Clem didnt know how Kenny would react? Kenny was willing to kill Arvo because he put the group in danger, what do you think he would do to someone if he thought they killed the baby?
Also remember Carver? Bet you stayed and watched but then it was ok.
You're right, just a second before she was pinned she almost said something. Maybe she didn't think that Kenny would've gone so far to kill her, and at that point she might've just decided she had no choice but to kill him
He helped me at the pharamancy,came with me to look for Clem.I wanted to take care of duck because no parent should have to do things like that.Its simple,he will be there for you unless you are a unloyal towards him.He stays loyal with you as long as you stay loyal with him.
Except for that time in the pharmacy... and that time I needed to look for Clem... and that time I had to put his kid down for him... and th… moreat time I killed the walker in the attic for him... and that time he got Walter shot... and that time he drove the group apart... You've got a strange definition of "always" that seems to match up to "only when you're on his good side."
So you're saying you didn't know, Clem didnt know how Kenny would react? Kenny was willing to kill Arvo because he put the group in danger, … morewhat do you think he would do to someone if he thought they killed the baby?
Also remember Carver? Bet you stayed and watched but then it was ok.
But Jane never wanted to kill him lol.....
She just wanted to show Clem how he reacted, that's all! It's Kenny that started the fight and it's Kenny that continued it! XD
Except for that time in the pharmacy... and that time I needed to look for Clem... and that time I had to put his kid down for him... and th… moreat time I killed the walker in the attic for him... and that time he got Walter shot... and that time he drove the group apart... You've got a strange definition of "always" that seems to match up to "only when you're on his good side."
He helped me at the pharamancy,came with me to look for Clem.I wanted to take care of duck because no parent should have to do things like t… morehat.Its simple,he will be there for you unless you are a unloyal towards him.He stays loyal with you as long as you stay loyal with him.
The way Kenny treated Arvo gave me a tremendous nervous. I wanted him to put a fucking bullet in the head.
Sorry, but Kenny was insane: M… moreike, Bonnie and Arvo knew it, Luke knew it, Clem knew it, Jane knew it! All knew it! Kenny was become like Carver,
For me Jane did good to prove that point, and My Clem did good for kill him.
After losing your family, your girlfriend, your two friends, and now you see this survivalist, lonely girl that left her own sister to die so she could live come back without a baby you'd sworn to protect... Oh, and right after she has been bashing your entire family and actions just for the sake of it, even if you could just had left her with Arvo, Mike and Bonnie.
I think that, if murder is justified in any case, this is one of the top ones.
i love kenny... but his mistake he jumped to the conclusion that jane killed?! the baby even tho she said it was an accident... like what if clementine was in that situation like that... and i end up going with jane anyway coz i like her to be clem's another mentor/sister, my clem give her a chance again... coz i know she might teach clem about survival things like she did on episode 4 so i hope that kenny forgives me i don't meant that i don't want to be with him anymore it's just i want to let him rest give him peace .....
Maybe it's irrational because Kenny is a nutcracker and has been for a while. The so-called "Kenny loyalists" believe they can justify any action Kenny does. Kenny could murder every single member of every group Clem has been a part of and the "Kenny Loyalists" will justify it.
Why are people so quick to say that anybody who disagrees with him hates him?
How dumb do you have to be to open fire on hostage takers when they outnumber you and outgun you? He nearly made the same "mistake" in the back of the truck. That's not a mistake, that's recklessness.
Clearly we don't think alike.
Pharmacy with the girl? We got more time and she was dead either way.
Kenny went with me but why would h… moree help you if you were a dick to him?
Killing Duck and the attic walker... Really? You helped Kenny, but he would have done it himself.
And Walter was a mistake (alvin to), everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are part of success.
It's amazing how hard people work to hate Kenny, just because he is emotional.
After losing your family, your girlfriend, your two friends, and now you see this survivalist, lonely girl that left her own sister to die s… moreo she could live come back without a baby you'd sworn to protect... Oh, and right after she has been bashing your entire family and actions just for the sake of it, even if you could just had left her with Arvo, Mike and Bonnie.
I think that, if murder is justified in any case, this is one of the top ones.
Why are people so quick to say that anybody who disagrees with him hates him?
How dumb do you have to be to open fire on hostage takers w… morehen they outnumber you and outgun you? He nearly made the same "mistake" in the back of the truck. That's not a mistake, that's recklessness.
Yep, I'm sure he did care about everyone but his raging temper and incompetence to cooperate made him the one thing consistently bringing the group down.
Maybe it's irrational because Kenny is a nutcracker and has been for a while. The so-called "Kenny loyalists" believe they can justify any a… morection Kenny does. Kenny could murder every single member of every group Clem has been a part of and the "Kenny Loyalists" will justify it.
I never hated Kenny. I spent the last two episodes trying to bring him back to his senses. I chose [HUG KENNY] when I first saw him in episode 2 and in episode 3 after he regained consciousness.
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Clem said that to Jane that "losed" the baby, not for Kenny XD
This. Like he always does.
Jane had it coming, she insulted my lord ken!
Only because we don't agree with you it's irrational?
PUT DAT COOKIE DOWN! NOW!
Except for that time in the pharmacy... and that time I needed to look for Clem... and that time I had to put his kid down for him... and that time I killed the walker in the attic for him... and that time he got Walter shot... and that time he drove the group apart... You've got a strange definition of "always" that seems to match up to "only when you're on his good side."
...right. But I was pointing out that I'm not seeing things from a "pro-Jane" point of view. She sucks too. Just because I'm not on either Jane's side or Kenny's side doesn't mean that I shouldn't give my opinion on the matter.
But Jane did provoke him, several times, before and after the baby went missing. She irresponsibly set the fight up in order to prove a point. The only thing she proved was that she was too immature to survive in the apocalypse. Seriously, whether Kenny is a hothead or not, your first priority should not be to make him angry whenever you get the chance; your first priority should be to keep everyone in your group safe. Provoking an emotionally scarred person by making fun of his dead family and hiding one of the last things he has left to live for is what I'd call failure to keep the group safe.
I liked Jane's character up until that point, honestly. But during the last half of the episode she revealed herself to be a child who would risk the lives of Clem and AJ in order to humiliate Kenny. So if you still like Jane, and chose to side with her in Episode 5, that's fine. It's your decision. But I sure as hell don't want anything to do with her.
I'm not even taking sides in this thing, Jane could have stopped him at any point by saying that the baby was alive and well but she didn't, Kenny didn't have to go as far as wanting to kill her but with his mental state it would have happened, they are both at fault here.
If you honestly thought you weren't going to set off a giant argument over this you need to claim your helmet and bib and hop in your highchair.
She did that only to protect Clem.
Cmon, all we know that if Clem would lose the baby Kenny would kill her.... unfortunately this is the truth, and Jane knew this!
First person to turn down ma cookies
Fair enough.
I honestly can't see him ever doing that, but I respect your feelings nonetheless.
So you're saying you didn't know, Clem didnt know how Kenny would react? Kenny was willing to kill Arvo because he put the group in danger, what do you think he would do to someone if he thought they killed the baby?
Also remember Carver? Bet you stayed and watched but then it was ok.
You're right, just a second before she was pinned she almost said something. Maybe she didn't think that Kenny would've gone so far to kill her, and at that point she might've just decided she had no choice but to kill him
He helped me at the pharamancy,came with me to look for Clem.I wanted to take care of duck because no parent should have to do things like that.Its simple,he will be there for you unless you are a unloyal towards him.He stays loyal with you as long as you stay loyal with him.
The way Kenny treated Arvo gave me a tremendous nervous. I wanted him to put a fucking bullet in the head.
Sorry, but Kenny was insane: Mike, Bonnie and Arvo knew it, Luke knew it, Clem knew it, Jane knew it! All knew it! Kenny was become like Carver,
For me Jane did good to prove that point, and My Clem did good for kill him.
If you say "Back off, Jane!" she responds "It is time I put this old dog down", I think we all can agree she wanted to kill Kenny.
Yeah, i respet yours too...
This is the game! We have different opinions... and this is good, cause this shows that Telltale did a really good job with this game!
Oh, sure, of course... Kenny is now a master manipulator, right?
They are BOTH at fault.
Clearly we don't think alike.
Pharmacy with the girl? We got more time and she was dead either way.
Kenny went with me but why would he help you if you were a dick to him?
Killing Duck and the attic walker... Really? You helped Kenny, but he would have done it himself.
And Walter was a mistake (alvin to), everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are part of success.
It's amazing how hard people work to hate Kenny, just because he is emotional.
I was loyal, I just didn't kiss his ass. If I thought he was wrong I told him. He was petty in my playthrough.
Arvo deserved it.
After losing your family, your girlfriend, your two friends, and now you see this survivalist, lonely girl that left her own sister to die so she could live come back without a baby you'd sworn to protect... Oh, and right after she has been bashing your entire family and actions just for the sake of it, even if you could just had left her with Arvo, Mike and Bonnie.
I think that, if murder is justified in any case, this is one of the top ones.
Arvo deserved it only when he shot My Clemmy...
Before he didn't deserve that treatment, yet Kenny did it.
i love kenny... but his mistake he jumped to the conclusion that jane killed?! the baby even tho she said it was an accident... like what if clementine was in that situation like that... and i end up going with jane anyway coz i like her to be clem's another mentor/sister,
my clem give her a chance again... coz i know she might teach clem about survival things like she did on episode 4 so i hope that kenny forgives me i don't meant that i don't want to be with him anymore it's just i want to let him rest give him peace .....
This is after 2:17?
If yes, well she did good to wanted to kill him.... Just look at 2:17 and you will se why XD
Maybe it's irrational because Kenny is a nutcracker and has been for a while. The so-called "Kenny loyalists" believe they can justify any action Kenny does. Kenny could murder every single member of every group Clem has been a part of and the "Kenny Loyalists" will justify it.
2:17 is pathetic excuse of trying to stop the fight, and you believe it.
Why are people so quick to say that anybody who disagrees with him hates him?
How dumb do you have to be to open fire on hostage takers when they outnumber you and outgun you? He nearly made the same "mistake" in the back of the truck. That's not a mistake, that's recklessness.
No he is not.
Oh, and killing Kenny isn't murder now?!
Murder is always the wrong choice morally.
When was the last time Kenny asked if somebody was right to get other person to agree with him?
Kenny isn't half as manipulative as Jane, he's just a Floridian hothead.
Sorry I assumed you did.
Idk man, a lot of things seems dumb.
Of course He'll rage after loosing all his beloved ones; Katjaa, Duck, Sarita and now AJ.
I disagree on this.
I'm a Kenny loyalist and I think killing Jane was very wrong.
I never hated Kenny. I spent the last two episodes trying to bring him back to his senses. I chose [HUG KENNY] when I first saw him in episode 2 and in episode 3 after he regained consciousness.