You keep justifying your ep 5 choice? Don't. I'll tell you why.
For last few days I've read a lot of opinions on every possible ending of ep5 and really I don't want to start another thread about shooting Kenny or saving Jane.
All I want to tell you is that:
1) The concept of game since the very begining is about making tough choices, mostly very quicky and live with consequences.
2) EVERY ending is valid; EVERY ending has meaning and EVERY ending choice was made with your own emotions of the moment (love, compassion, anger, hatred, ...).
3) I also say, stick with your original choice. Telltale made something special here. Please respect everyone's choice cause it wasn't easy and that's what makes this game one of a kind.
TL:DR - We can keep arguing about ep5 final choices till season 3, but there's simply no need.
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Well, there's no need to be here period then. I mean, thats what discussion forums are for.
Well, one thing is to discuss, one thing is to telling ppl about having wrong ending and that they must rewind.
Jesus,finally someone that makes a thread about the pointless arguing.
THANK YOU
Well i feel a little less guilty now.
Actually, I made the right choice. If Kenny was still alive, he does the exact same thing I hate about him..
Fuck up, big way...
And apologize and saying he'll try to be better..
I'm like.. hmm no.
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this. Despite liking Kenny more I went with Jane. I probably would've hated myself making that choice except for that Kenny was so understanding as he died.
Nah those endings that aren't at Wellington are legit horrible lololololol
Well to be honest I feel guilty, but I had that feeling before with this game. That would never make me to rewind anyway.
no howe's hardware ending is the best ending lololol
Well,those endings that shooting a maniac like Kenny is the only rational one anyway,unlike going to snowy wasteland,poor folks choose to make Clem becoming like the rabid dog himself.
You see how that sounds?
Although I do realise half the forums are 16 years old wannabes.
I don't understand why the different choices are so heated, either. The response to it, and the flaming (I won't even call it arguing anymore) is toxic. There's no other word I can use except toxic. This ending has community members at each others' throats, and why? Because some people don't like the fact that others have picked an ending that they think isn't the best, or to their personal preference. If this is how the forums will be for the next several months, a cesspool of hatred, then what hope do we have that TTG can make a positive change to any season 3 ideas if all they have to draw on is the negativity of their fan base.
I agree.
I dislike threads that say Kenny is bad or Jane is bad, or one of them is better than the other. They're both equal and both psychopaths with good intentions.
What do you mean there's no need to argue about our choices? All due respect, but what the hell else are we supposed to do on a discussion board?
I mean yeah, it should be common sense to most people that opinions are just opinions, and are neither wrong or right. Some people might not get that, but that's their problem. I respect everyone's opinion, but I also enjoy arguing against the ones that I disagree with because it makes for a fun discussion.
This game means a lot to many of us, myself included. I, and many other people here, have some very strong opinions about it. Naturally, we're not all going to agree on everything.
But this is a discussion board, there is a need to argue about our choices: for the purpose of discussion. Yes, every ending is valid. Yes, we all made our choices for different reasons. But so what? That doesn't mean that it isn't fun to talk and argue about those choices.
It's simple discourse. If you've been on any discussion boards in the past, then you should understand that and have no problem with it.
Yup... Thats great logic. No point in being here because everyone is tired of the one argument taking over everything.
my god.... you guys cannot let it go! And you wonder why we're sick of this!
Oh look. People in this very thread missing the point and trying to bring the argument here.
I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to bring any specific game arguments in here. All I'm saying is that people have their own ways of expressing their opinions. Some people, like you and me, can talk calmly and logically about how we feel. Other people can't, and as a result have to resort to using terms like 'wrong ending' or 'right ending'.
So be it, I say. Their opinions are just as valid as that of any other person. No need to condescend them or call them wannabees, or call for the end of all Episode 5 discussions altogether. Just let them be. I enjoy the heated Season 2 debates. They make for good discussion, even if some of the arguments are poorly worded/constructed.
Its been a week... and people still cannot accept other people's opinions. Lost count of how many time's I've been called evil for saying I like Jane. You know other things happened in the game. It doesn't have to always be about Kenny vs Jane. No that one thing is so important to everyone.
Sometimes i wonder why I'm still here. Its not even worth it anymore. It feels like everyone's just repeating themselves at this point.
I think alot of people whilst debating kenny/jane or which ending is best are all missing the point. For example I've heard alot of people complain that kenny is irrational, and I've heard people complain that jane deserved to die because she lied about the baby... The fact or the matter is that when you are given a choice to shoot kenny or look away, you don't know about the baby being alive, and at the same time you cant be certain kenny will kill her. Like the OP said. It's about making tough choices quickly. I've watched videos of other endings throughout the games series, but never once have I rewinded and changed my outcome, that defeats the purpose of any choices youre forced into.
For the record, I shot kenny. At that point my thought process was that jane had to chose between the baby and herself, and I'm sorry but the baby wouldn't be worth dieing over since it would likely die without you. Kenny was going to kill her unjustifiably it a fit of rage over a situation that whilst tragic, was most likely unavoidable for jane. Now that being said, I felt terrible about having to shoot kenny, he was always someone I loved throughout the game and to have to kill him was gut wrenching, but in the moment felt necessary. When Jane revealed that she had lied though I wanted nothing more then to go back in time and grab the knife from kenny to kill her myself. If the option was given to shoot her at that point I wouldnt have thought twice, and needless to say I walked off alone and was satisfied when she begged for me to forgive her, knowing that her lack of trust and her constant unreasonable behavior because of it forced her to truly be alone. It seemed clear to me early on that Jane viewed clem as a little sister figure, and after jane cause the death of the person i most cared about and at my own hands none the less it was poetic to me that instead of jane abandoning her little sister, her "new sister" abandons her and in many ways proves to be stronger mentally, strong enough to still hold that trust that not all people are bad and strong enough to know right from wrong, and at the end of the day when all was said and done, Jane was not a good person. Up until that point even though she acting untrusting I really liked jane, but what she did at the end proved who she really was and she did it ironically whilst trying to prove that kenny was a bad person.
I was sad to have killed kenny, but I had to make a painful choice in a quick time frame. That's what the game is about.
There is no right or wrong ending, and none are 'better' then others, you live with the outcome of you decisions.
I completely agree with what OP is saying: stick with the first choice you made, don't rewind and change it. That's what makes your choices feel so real, because that's how it would be if you were actually there (no changing your mind, what's done is done). Of course once you've finished your playthrough though, you should start a fresh game with a new save. I used the save from my first playthrough of Season 1 to start Season 2 and stuck will all of my decisions right through until the end whether I liked them or not and I'm glad I did.
Okay, leaving aside that I dont agree with your bullshit, which part even suggest that Clem becomes like Kenny?
The forum is now arguing about arguing!
It doesn't even matter. If Clem's story is continued, then Kenny and Jane are toast, and Clem is on her own. Same situation either way!
Stop being a kid.
You're response is exactly what the problem is
One thing is discussing it rationally and another is just saying plain untrue things because of mindless hate for a character.
I had the same thing going through my mind, I really didn't like shooting Kenny, I'm just glad he was so understanding when I actually did so. Like you, I wanted to go back and kill Jane instead. Unlike you, I actually went with Jane (although I didn't "forgive" her per se) but that was mostly because I don't think clem could watch after the baby by herself.
While that's extremely likely, based on how these games have gone so far, we can't be sure that's actually true.
I hope for playing as Clem, I hope.
I couldn't bring myself to go with her. If she's capable of doing something like that, I can't even imagine what even worse choices she might make later on. I thought about how it would be difficult to raise the baby, but 9 days later and it seemed like clem was handling things like a boss.
She's still. Not. Bitten.
Killing jane and kill Kenny are both correct...People need to realize that the real truth is what you pick...There is no need to debate at ALL...because everything is correct. For example: asking jane if she wants her cookie...that's a correct answer...why? because you picked it. I came to realize and accept that this episode/season2 ...there are no wrong answers....everything is right....there shouldn't be any CONTRADICTION at all.
This. Most people have mental scarring in TWD comics, TV series and game. That doesn't make them horrible people
I think i'll take a nap...
yeah guys... let's all stop this jane vs kenny thread... can we? how about we make "we hate arvo,bonnie and mike" for a change
Thank you, I think this thread is much needed. There seem to be far too many 'Why did you choose X, you MONSTER?!' threads at the moment.
It's a good idea for people to take a moment and remember that the whole point of choice games is shaping your own story, and no choice is right. It wouldn't even be so bad if people discussed it sensibly, but no it's just name-calling and bickering.
I think it's basically a rorschach test
and if you don't end up alone with the baby
you're not Rorschach.
People are not having a discussion. People are hating each other and acting like kids.
I agree completely. In my situation, the timer was about to run dry and I saw that Kenny had lost it by now, so shot him. I almost immediately regretted my decision and was even tempted to go back and redo it so Kenny doesn't die. However I couldn't do it, I knew that the decision I made was the decision I wanted at the time and that's justified enough for me. Whatever decision you made is the one you wanted to do in that split moment when you had the choice, therefore whatever decision you make is justified and there is no use arguing over which is better because until Season 3 we won't know if there even is a better choice to make.
Thank God!
It's nice to see someone who's being reasonable.
I have to admit, all that bickering over a videogame?
It doesn't make any sense.
It is just a videogame!
Now I would play along with some of these "discussions."
But inside, I was thinking: "This is so ridiculous."