You are nonstop proving you're obvious bias towards Kenny to the point of rewriting the entire game to paint him in this poor innocent victim stroke.... And you wonder why I call you delusional. You are so delusional that you don't even see what you're doing.
I have only ever brought up what actually happened in the game. Please don't try and criticize someone if you can't even bother to try and prove what you're saying. Its just so, so pointless. You can't go around demanding more respect and then just baselessly insult people like this.
I'm not assuming shit! what part of Obvious do you not understand?
Yes, you are assuming. There is nothing to show us that he would only have been satisfied by taking Jane's life. Its great if you somehow think its obvious, but the fact remains that there isn't anything provable to base it on. You're only speculating. Until you actually have something provable/solid to bring to the table, you're only assuming.
Furthermore. You are repeating yourself. Its just the same thing over and over with you.
That would be because I have no reason to change my argument. Can you please stop with the childish insults/ complaints please?
And if anyone calls you out act all hurt that someone would be mean to you thinking you won the internet.
That's ridiculous. You're just straight making things up now. I have never been like that.
The fact that you are so interested in personally attacking me instead of actually addressing anything I say kind of shows a lot..
Grow up
That's just rich. How can you honestly say that within a post like this, where all you're doing is personally attacking me when I was nothing but civil to you?
Again, you have nothing to base this on. Settle yourself down.
You cannot compare what Lee would have done because Clem is NOT Lee. I mean this in every sense of the word as Lee would have been able to fight Kenny and push him off Jane or would have been able to restrain Jane and kill her himself.
Also Lee is who you make him. My Lee would probably have talked Kenny out of it and left Jane for the walkers while they both walked off or something.
I have only ever brought up what actually happened in the game.
lol... sure you are.... In you're mind
Yes, you are assuming. There is nothing to show us that he would only have been satisfied by taking Jane's life. Its great if you somehow think its obvious, but the fact remains that there isn't anything provable to base it on. You're only speculating. Until you actually have something provable/solid to bring to the table, you're only assuming.
Every single fucking thing that happened during that entire fight proves it.... The only reason you think otherwise is because you refuse to acknowledge that Kenny can somehow be in the wrong about something... Because KENNY IS GOD!
That would be because I have no reason to change my argument.
Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results. Somehow we're supposed to magically refute your super Kenny is incapable of no wrong logic? Give me a break.
The fact that you are so interested in personally attacking me instead of actually addressing anything I say kind of shows a lot..
The fact that you keep complaining about these so called "personal attacks" that I have never actually done proves my point. You act like some social justice warrior on anyone who calls you on your bullcrap forgetting that its a damn video game. Maybe this argument isn't worth the hassle anymore? Most people are sick of it to the point of considering leaving. We have a thread asking people to let it go! Hell I made a joke thread making fun of it and people came in and took it seriously! There's a point where its time to let it go. But you cannot. It must physically hurt you to know there are Jane fans. And the irony of me not letting go isn't lost on me. I keep getting people like you in my inbox and its hard to just ignore it sometimes.
You are nonstop proving you're obvious bias towards Kenny to the point of rewriting the entire game to paint him in this poor innocent victi… morem stroke.... And you wonder why I call you delusional. You are so delusional that you don't even see what you're doing.
I have only ever brought up what actually happened in the game. Please don't try and criticize someone if you can't even bother to try and prove what you're saying. Its just so, so pointless. You can't go around demanding more respect and then just baselessly insult people like this.
I'm not assuming shit! what part of Obvious do you not understand?
Yes, you are assuming. There is nothing to show us that he would only have been satisfied by taking Jane's life. Its great if you somehow think its obvious, but the fact remains that there isn't anything provable to base it on. You're only speculating. Until you actually have something provable/solid to bring to the tabl… [view original content]
I would never go with Kenny after he murders Jane. I will never play through the game, without killing Kenny, because for me, its the right … morething to do. Its a check on both my rational/objectivity list and moral values list.
Just like im not on the Strangers, Carvers or Lillys side, i will never be on Kennys side. To me, all 4 are just the same. Broken and crazy people who arent safe to be around.
How do you figure? You go with Kenny and you make it to Wellington Safe. You go by yourself and you are walking into a herd of zombies. Which one do you think is "better off"?
Dude, I wasn't making that remark based on the context of the actual scene, I was just noting it was a genuinely cool picture of Clem. You're not jumping to conclusions, you're pole-vaulting at them.
How do you figure? You go with Kenny and you make it to Wellington Safe. You go by yourself and you are walking into a herd of zombies. Which one do you think is "better off"?
If Lee was still alive I'm sure that everything that Clem went through would be completely different, like the first episode with omid dying could be pervented or the camp attack with Christa, I also think if Lee was here he'd be the one to put Kenny back in his place every time, because Lee can be very convincing.. Like SE1 Ep 1 at the Pharmacy, when Kenny was upset about not helping Hershel's Son (forgot name) Lee was all in and told he told him to "try to let it go", if Lee was here he'd be the leader and likely at the end of the season, He'll take the alvo shot he did to Clem and end up dieing there, followed by Clem shooting or not shooting Kenny..that would be one sad fucking episode though.
Lee gets taken more seriously because he is an adult. Clem is not. The player has to find other ways of making choices, which was rewarding and frustrating at the same time. But how many leader adult characters are there in these types of games - how many times do you get to play the character with less power that has to earn respect?
Don't forget towards the end of Season 1 Episode 4 Lee can talk to Clementine on the train about splitting of from the group and continuing onward's by themselves. Therefore i think Lee foresore Kenny's mental instability and would of preferred to avoid him at that point onward's but the Stranger's interference on the radio obviously altered the plan. Lee was wise and he knew that Kenny's darkening mentality would be a major evil for Clementine to be continually exposed to.
The action of pumping on his chest is identical each time.
There is no reason why the first three would not cause his lungs to do that and the fourth one would.
Your Lee didn't 'know' that. No-one knows it because we don't know 100%. It is possible for someone to be revived by CPR. Unusual, but possible.
Your Lee just strongly suspected. He isn't the mystical Oracle of Delphi who received the events of the future in advance from the lord of priests Apollo.
Dude, Larrys heart stopped and he wasn't breathing. It is pretty much impossible to revive someone using only CPR if the heart has stopped. … moreThe whole point of CPR is to keep blood pumping until someone with a defibrillator comes along (which wasn't gonna happen in their situation). That "breath" you are insisting on most likely came from the fact that they were compressing his lungs.
My Lee knew there was no chance of him reviving. It was necessary.
Don't forget towards the end of Season 1 Episode 4 Lee can talk to Clementine on the train about splitting of from the group and continuing … moreonward's by themselves. Therefore i think Lee foresore Kenny's mental instability and would of preferred to avoid him at that point onward's but the Stranger's interference on the radio obviously altered the plan. Lee was wise and he knew that Kenny's darkening mentality would be a major evil for Clementine to be continually exposed to.
Wrong. Your arguments are wrong on every level. You are the one who's butthurt and you are trying to use my arguments against myself. Yeah there is a reason why I argue about Kenny since you Kenny fans can't seem to realize he deserves to die. Sure there is a choice and there isn't a wrong one but this thread is about what Lee would've done and I'm stating the facts that Lee would kill Kenny. I don't know whats you problem but you keep making up stuff that I didn't say and you seem to think I worship Jane. If you listened to my arguments you'd understand why. You are the one who's butthurt and please go get some new words from a dictionary instead of using mine, okay darling?
you may think that , but if anyone is butt-hurt because they chose Kenny its you...
evidence is all around this forum
I see you arguing an… mored only accepting Jane , THERE IS A CHOISE
YOU CAN PICK ANY ONE WHO IS THERE DURING THE FIGHT TO ACCOMPANY YOU
You may call me names, i don't care
I chose Kenny, accept that instead of acting butt-hurt the whole time because we chose him
My Lee wouldn't have shot Kenny, cuz while he may be doing his best to be a good person he isn't a saint, and he isn't a logic machine. There is no way he would have been able to shoot his best friend of 2 years and the closest thing he has to family aside from Clem. He would have tried to restrain Kenny and told Jane to run, but if that didn't work he would have looked away.
Lee knows Kenny is cracking and a bit crazy, but he is his friend, so he isn't just gonna abandon him or kill him.
Don't forget towards the end of Season 1 Episode 4 Lee can talk to Clementine on the train about splitting of from the group and continuing … moreonward's by themselves. Therefore i think Lee foresore Kenny's mental instability and would of preferred to avoid him at that point onward's but the Stranger's interference on the radio obviously altered the plan. Lee was wise and he knew that Kenny's darkening mentality would be a major evil for Clementine to be continually exposed to.
the lee that i was in season 1 always protected the weak. he would NOT have tolerated a new group member or any group member,jane in that ca… morese,to just play around with a baby to reveal kenny's "real" face. what did jane actually try to achieve? of course kenny is pissed! and my lee would have been pissed too and if he would have been there,he (or i) would have done the same as kenny. besides that,jane was the one who grabbed the knife first to attack kenny! SHE was the one who attacked him with a weapon. she wanted to reveal kenny's real face but actually revealed hers.
it's the end of the world and she is playing some simple game to show clem what kenny really is. but i know kenny for a long time already. and i know what and who he really is. yes,he can be a jackass,especially when his temper is taking over but he is making the hard decisions. lee knew that. lee and kenny had their differences but in my playthrough they were best buddies. j… [view original content]
Day 1: They arrive at Carver's, see Jane in the background.
Day 2: Jane shows up in the evening and explains walker herd traveling.
Da… morey 3: The group escapes
Day 4: Rebecca has her baby, jane leaves.
Day 6, or 10: Jane shows up at the shootout and kills the last russian.
Day 7 or 11: The group arrive at the unfinished house
Day 8 or 12: Jane and Kenny fights
Oooookk??...Whatever...?? I'm not even sure what your point is. But, for what it's worth I'm not a "Jane fan" or a "Kenny fan" or anything like that. I never saw it like a competition between the two, you shouldn't assume that is the case for everyone who played this game.
Jane fans can't stop arguing why they are correct and just realize every opinion matters. Still tho knowing someone for maybe a week as oppo… moresed to someone you met the day (close to the day) That everything happened. 2 years after Clem thought Kenny died she still had the drawing of his family...and in the cabin if you look at the picture she thinks of Duck. They were her family so even that time gone was time missed or loved in Clem's eyes no matter what the player thinks of it Clem LOVES Kenny and even years later she still thinks of him and his family because they were her family!.
I'm not going to argue with you lol. This is so immature. Why you have to take debating about a video game character and twist it into some kind of personal attack is beyond me. I have been pretty civil with you, there is no call for this. Unless you want to actually talk about the game (and be civil about it), I'm not going to continue this conversation.
I have only ever brought up what actually happened in the game.
lol... sure you are.... In you're mind
Yes, you are assuming. … moreThere is nothing to show us that he would only have been satisfied by taking Jane's life. Its great if you somehow think its obvious, but the fact remains that there isn't anything provable to base it on. You're only speculating. Until you actually have something provable/solid to bring to the table, you're only assuming.
Every single fucking thing that happened during that entire fight proves it.... The only reason you think otherwise is because you refuse to acknowledge that Kenny can somehow be in the wrong about something... Because KENNY IS GOD!
That would be because I have no reason to change my argument.
Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results. Somehow we're supposed to magically refute your s… [view original content]
There are lots of reasons. For instance, while the action of pumping is the same the pressure probably wasn't.
And now you are just arguing semantics. Fine. My Lee knew there was only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance to revive Larry, and that even if we did get his heart beating again there is only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001chance he would regain consciousness and not crash 2 seconds after. Killing him before he turned, because there was no possibility of Larry surviving without proper medical attention, was necessary.
The action of pumping on his chest is identical each time.
There is no reason why the first three would not cause his lungs to do that an… mored the fourth one would.
Your Lee didn't 'know' that. No-one knows it because we don't know 100%. It is possible for someone to be revived by CPR. Unusual, but possible.
Your Lee just strongly suspected. He isn't the mystical Oracle of Delphi who received the events of the future in advance from the lord of priests Apollo.
Your argument is getting stupid at this point. Sure, it wasn't "necessary" to kill Larry because angels could have descended down from the heavens and magically cured him with their angel tears. Because that is just as likely to happen as a man with recurring heart problems, who just had a heart attack, having his heart restarted using only CPR, and then regaining consciousness and living through the ordeal with NO further medical treatment.
The action of pumping on his chest is identical each time.
There is no reason why the first three would not cause his lungs to do that an… mored the fourth one would.
Your Lee didn't 'know' that. No-one knows it because we don't know 100%. It is possible for someone to be revived by CPR. Unusual, but possible.
Your Lee just strongly suspected. He isn't the mystical Oracle of Delphi who received the events of the future in advance from the lord of priests Apollo.
Why you have to take debating about a video game character and twist it into some kind of personal attack is beyond me
I can see why you would be confused. This wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to pin their own bullshit back at me after i called them out on it. But I never once insulted or made personal attacks. I call it as I see it and it may come off harsh but I never mean to be rude.
I have been pretty civil with you, there is no call for this
Yes but I've encountered people like you before. Your tactics are just keep going with the same thing over and over and over. Either cause people to just give up and leave or get frustrated with you so you can keep playing the victim. Either way you come off as the winner.
Unless you want to actually talk about the game (and be civil about it)
I have been very civil. Just because i'm not bowing to your precieved idea of how this conversation should go doesn't mean I haven't been civil. Unlike you I'm not demanding this argument to go any further.
I'm not going to continue this conversation.
Now if I were using your logic I can take that you admit I'm right. But I know it doesn't work like that.
I'm not going to argue with you lol. This is so immature. Why you have to take debating about a video game character and twist it into some … morekind of personal attack is beyond me. I have been pretty civil with you, there is no call for this. Unless you want to actually talk about the game (and be civil about it), I'm not going to continue this conversation.
The chance of survival with CPR alone is 3%. Sucky odds? Yes. Worth trying? Yep.
Kenny could have carried the salt lick over and put it down near his head. Since, even if zombies turn fast, in the game they always still LOOK like zombies (as Katjaa's patient demonstrates), he would have had enough time to drop the thing on its head.
This would have affected Lilly less, mentally.
Arguing semantics is kind of the point when you use words like 'necessary' which are absolute. Discussing the use of language you use to express your argument is perfectly valid.
And why would pressure be building him up while Lilly isn't blowing into him? We're just pushing on the bag which expends all the air then sucks it back in. You'd need to be performing CPR much more quickly than Lee was for Pressure alone to move the head that much.
There are lots of reasons. For instance, while the action of pumping is the same the pressure probably wasn't.
And now you are just argui… moreng semantics. Fine. My Lee knew there was only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance to revive Larry, and that even if we did get his heart beating again there is only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001chance he would regain consciousness and not crash 2 seconds after. Killing him before he turned, because there was no possibility of Larry surviving without proper medical attention, was necessary.
She says that she's going to "Put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery," as well as this little exchange:
Kenny: "I'll fuckin' kill you!"
Jane: "I... knew you would..."
I bring up that little exchange between the two of them quite a bit. I do that because that's the line that convinces me that Jane staged the entire incident just to have a chance to kill Kenny without looking like the bad guy. Again, I'm not saying that Kenny wasn't trying to kill her. He flipped out and tried to kill her for what was, as far as he actually knew, an accident. He's unstable and dangerous. But in my mind that doesn't make Jane right.
I'm not saying he'd survive after being revived. He'd probably die in another ten minutes or so.
But he would have got to say goodbye to his daughter, and his daughter would be more convinced it was necessary, which would traumatise her far less than dropping an object on his head while trying to save him.
Your argument is getting stupid at this point. Sure, it wasn't "necessary" to kill Larry because angels could have descended down from the h… moreeavens and magically cured him with their angel tears. Because that is just as likely to happen as a man with recurring heart problems, who just had a heart attack, having his heart restarted using only CPR, and then regaining consciousness and living through the ordeal with NO further medical treatment.
If you weren't/aren't being insulting, then I would be giving you a response. I don't think anyone would accuse me of not speaking my mind. However, if I were to offer you a response here, I would be arguing with you on a personal level. I'm not going to do that, so give it a rest. This post is meaningless in terms of discussing the game. Not sure how many times you need to be asked nicely to let it go. The fact that you're still pushing it is disrespectful in of itself. The forums aren't here for this kind of nonsense. At least have the decency to PM this kind of thing instead of openly spamming the thread with pointless accusations and insults.
I'm not going to argue with you
I can only wish
This is so immature
I agree
Why you have to take debating about … morea video game character and twist it into some kind of personal attack is beyond me
I can see why you would be confused. This wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to pin their own bullshit back at me after i called them out on it. But I never once insulted or made personal attacks. I call it as I see it and it may come off harsh but I never mean to be rude.
I have been pretty civil with you, there is no call for this
Yes but I've encountered people like you before. Your tactics are just keep going with the same thing over and over and over. Either cause people to just give up and leave or get frustrated with you so you can keep playing the victim. Either way you come off as the winner.
Unless you want to actually talk about the game (and be civil about it)
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I was speaking in general so it was not directed towards just one person. I didnt see a competition either but a lot of hate has been thrown my way and I'm somebody that shot kenny. So long story...still kinda long, I'm not hating. Was just trying to point out what I've been seeing to help others avoid pointless arguments when it never help. Sorry if you thought I was talking shit about you but I swear I wasn't.
Oooookk??...Whatever...?? I'm not even sure what your point is. But, for what it's worth I'm not a "Jane fan" or a "Kenny fan" or anything l… moreike that. I never saw it like a competition between the two, you shouldn't assume that is the case for everyone who played this game.
Lee didn't killed Lilly even when she just killed a valuable member of the group. Why do you expect him to kill Kenny, then, when he was fig… morehting for legit reasons? Jane wanted to kill Kenny, remember that.
Anyways, like I said in my other comment, with Lee that situation between Kenny and Jane would never happened.
She says that she's going to "Put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery," as well as this little exchange:
Kenny: "I'll fuckin' kil… morel you!"
Jane: "I... knew you would..."
I bring up that little exchange between the two of them quite a bit. I do that because that's the line that convinces me that Jane staged the entire incident just to have a chance to kill Kenny without looking like the bad guy. Again, I'm not saying that Kenny wasn't trying to kill her. He flipped out and tried to kill her for what was, as far as he actually knew, an accident. He's unstable and dangerous. But in my mind that doesn't make Jane right.
Well Jane wasnt unstable, just acting stupid because of emotions
So its totally okay for Jane to act stupid because of emotions, but… more not Kenny? You're not being fair at all, especially since you're talking about a far stronger emotion with Kenny.
And like i've said, She was sure that Kenny would become like Carver, and she didnt want to take the risk of leaving Clementine with him when that would happen.
So that means she should try her best to completely break a grieving man? And then proceed to try and kill him when she doesn't get her way? There were so many other things she could have done. What she did was cruel and unfair to Kenny.
So would you be ready to let your "sister" go with mentally unstable violent man?
Just as Kenny saw AJ as his baby, Clementine was like a sister to Jane.
Dude, I wasn't making that remark based on the context of the actual scene, I was just noting it was a genuinely cool picture of Clem. You're not jumping to conclusions, you're pole-vaulting at them.
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I have only ever brought up what actually happened in the game. Please don't try and criticize someone if you can't even bother to try and prove what you're saying. Its just so, so pointless. You can't go around demanding more respect and then just baselessly insult people like this.
Yes, you are assuming. There is nothing to show us that he would only have been satisfied by taking Jane's life. Its great if you somehow think its obvious, but the fact remains that there isn't anything provable to base it on. You're only speculating. Until you actually have something provable/solid to bring to the table, you're only assuming.
That would be because I have no reason to change my argument. Can you please stop with the childish insults/ complaints please?
That's ridiculous. You're just straight making things up now. I have never been like that.
The fact that you are so interested in personally attacking me instead of actually addressing anything I say kind of shows a lot..
That's just rich. How can you honestly say that within a post like this, where all you're doing is personally attacking me when I was nothing but civil to you?
Again, you have nothing to base this on. Settle yourself down.
You cannot compare what Lee would have done because Clem is NOT Lee. I mean this in every sense of the word as Lee would have been able to fight Kenny and push him off Jane or would have been able to restrain Jane and kill her himself.
Also Lee is who you make him. My Lee would probably have talked Kenny out of it and left Jane for the walkers while they both walked off or something.
lol... sure you are.... In you're mind
Every single fucking thing that happened during that entire fight proves it.... The only reason you think otherwise is because you refuse to acknowledge that Kenny can somehow be in the wrong about something... Because KENNY IS GOD!
Know what the definition of insanity is? Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results. Somehow we're supposed to magically refute your super Kenny is incapable of no wrong logic? Give me a break.
The fact that you keep complaining about these so called "personal attacks" that I have never actually done proves my point. You act like some social justice warrior on anyone who calls you on your bullcrap forgetting that its a damn video game. Maybe this argument isn't worth the hassle anymore? Most people are sick of it to the point of considering leaving. We have a thread asking people to let it go! Hell I made a joke thread making fun of it and people came in and took it seriously! There's a point where its time to let it go. But you cannot. It must physically hurt you to know there are Jane fans. And the irony of me not letting go isn't lost on me. I keep getting people like you in my inbox and its hard to just ignore it sometimes.
But if you cared about Clementines safety then you should have gone with Kenny because he is the one who would protect her the most!
How do you figure? You go with Kenny and you make it to Wellington Safe. You go by yourself and you are walking into a herd of zombies. Which one do you think is "better off"?
I didn't get that quote in my game so I think I did a better job at making decisions than you did!
Dude, I wasn't making that remark based on the context of the actual scene, I was just noting it was a genuinely cool picture of Clem. You're not jumping to conclusions, you're pole-vaulting at them.
If Lee was still alive I'm sure that everything that Clem went through would be completely different, like the first episode with omid dying could be pervented or the camp attack with Christa, I also think if Lee was here he'd be the one to put Kenny back in his place every time, because Lee can be very convincing.. Like SE1 Ep 1 at the Pharmacy, when Kenny was upset about not helping Hershel's Son (forgot name) Lee was all in and told he told him to "try to let it go", if Lee was here he'd be the leader and likely at the end of the season, He'll take the alvo shot he did to Clem and end up dieing there, followed by Clem shooting or not shooting Kenny..that would be one sad fucking episode though.
Wait I take that back, both Lee and Kenny would end up dying together, not sure how exactly but they would die..Be epic if Lee Met Luke
Lee gets taken more seriously because he is an adult. Clem is not. The player has to find other ways of making choices, which was rewarding and frustrating at the same time. But how many leader adult characters are there in these types of games - how many times do you get to play the character with less power that has to earn respect?
Don't forget towards the end of Season 1 Episode 4 Lee can talk to Clementine on the train about splitting of from the group and continuing onward's by themselves. Therefore i think Lee foresore Kenny's mental instability and would of preferred to avoid him at that point onward's but the Stranger's interference on the radio obviously altered the plan. Lee was wise and he knew that Kenny's darkening mentality would be a major evil for Clementine to be continually exposed to.
The action of pumping on his chest is identical each time.
There is no reason why the first three would not cause his lungs to do that and the fourth one would.
Your Lee didn't 'know' that. No-one knows it because we don't know 100%. It is possible for someone to be revived by CPR. Unusual, but possible.
Your Lee just strongly suspected. He isn't the mystical Oracle of Delphi who received the events of the future in advance from the lord of priests Apollo.
Nice one xSweetpea! Didn't think about that, but yeah, Lee was Smart and strong, but wasn't opened to his surroundings and got bitten.
Wrong. Your arguments are wrong on every level. You are the one who's butthurt and you are trying to use my arguments against myself. Yeah there is a reason why I argue about Kenny since you Kenny fans can't seem to realize he deserves to die. Sure there is a choice and there isn't a wrong one but this thread is about what Lee would've done and I'm stating the facts that Lee would kill Kenny. I don't know whats you problem but you keep making up stuff that I didn't say and you seem to think I worship Jane. If you listened to my arguments you'd understand why. You are the one who's butthurt and please go get some new words from a dictionary instead of using mine, okay darling?
My Lee wouldn't have shot Kenny, cuz while he may be doing his best to be a good person he isn't a saint, and he isn't a logic machine. There is no way he would have been able to shoot his best friend of 2 years and the closest thing he has to family aside from Clem. He would have tried to restrain Kenny and told Jane to run, but if that didn't work he would have looked away.
Lee knows Kenny is cracking and a bit crazy, but he is his friend, so he isn't just gonna abandon him or kill him.
Obviously since that is a optional thought, it is only some Lee's who would feel that way, still.
I'm sorry, but I just can't believe Lee would have let Kenny kill Jane. I just can't see it at all.
Because season 1 never happened...ok.
Oooookk??...Whatever...?? I'm not even sure what your point is. But, for what it's worth I'm not a "Jane fan" or a "Kenny fan" or anything like that. I never saw it like a competition between the two, you shouldn't assume that is the case for everyone who played this game.
I'm not going to argue with you lol. This is so immature. Why you have to take debating about a video game character and twist it into some kind of personal attack is beyond me. I have been pretty civil with you, there is no call for this. Unless you want to actually talk about the game (and be civil about it), I'm not going to continue this conversation.
There are lots of reasons. For instance, while the action of pumping is the same the pressure probably wasn't.
And now you are just arguing semantics. Fine. My Lee knew there was only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 chance to revive Larry, and that even if we did get his heart beating again there is only a 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001chance he would regain consciousness and not crash 2 seconds after. Killing him before he turned, because there was no possibility of Larry surviving without proper medical attention, was necessary.
Your argument is getting stupid at this point. Sure, it wasn't "necessary" to kill Larry because angels could have descended down from the heavens and magically cured him with their angel tears. Because that is just as likely to happen as a man with recurring heart problems, who just had a heart attack, having his heart restarted using only CPR, and then regaining consciousness and living through the ordeal with NO further medical treatment.
I can only wish
I agree
I can see why you would be confused. This wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to pin their own bullshit back at me after i called them out on it. But I never once insulted or made personal attacks. I call it as I see it and it may come off harsh but I never mean to be rude.
Yes but I've encountered people like you before. Your tactics are just keep going with the same thing over and over and over. Either cause people to just give up and leave or get frustrated with you so you can keep playing the victim. Either way you come off as the winner.
I have been very civil. Just because i'm not bowing to your precieved idea of how this conversation should go doesn't mean I haven't been civil. Unlike you I'm not demanding this argument to go any further.
Now if I were using your logic I can take that you admit I'm right. But I know it doesn't work like that.
0.000000000000000000000000000000000001%?
The chance of survival with CPR alone is 3%. Sucky odds? Yes. Worth trying? Yep.
Kenny could have carried the salt lick over and put it down near his head. Since, even if zombies turn fast, in the game they always still LOOK like zombies (as Katjaa's patient demonstrates), he would have had enough time to drop the thing on its head.
This would have affected Lilly less, mentally.
Arguing semantics is kind of the point when you use words like 'necessary' which are absolute. Discussing the use of language you use to express your argument is perfectly valid.
And why would pressure be building him up while Lilly isn't blowing into him? We're just pushing on the bag which expends all the air then sucks it back in. You'd need to be performing CPR much more quickly than Lee was for Pressure alone to move the head that much.
She says that she's going to "Put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery," as well as this little exchange:
Kenny: "I'll fuckin' kill you!"
Jane: "I... knew you would..."
I bring up that little exchange between the two of them quite a bit. I do that because that's the line that convinces me that Jane staged the entire incident just to have a chance to kill Kenny without looking like the bad guy. Again, I'm not saying that Kenny wasn't trying to kill her. He flipped out and tried to kill her for what was, as far as he actually knew, an accident. He's unstable and dangerous. But in my mind that doesn't make Jane right.
I'm not saying he'd survive after being revived. He'd probably die in another ten minutes or so.
But he would have got to say goodbye to his daughter, and his daughter would be more convinced it was necessary, which would traumatise her far less than dropping an object on his head while trying to save him.
If you weren't/aren't being insulting, then I would be giving you a response. I don't think anyone would accuse me of not speaking my mind. However, if I were to offer you a response here, I would be arguing with you on a personal level. I'm not going to do that, so give it a rest. This post is meaningless in terms of discussing the game. Not sure how many times you need to be asked nicely to let it go. The fact that you're still pushing it is disrespectful in of itself. The forums aren't here for this kind of nonsense. At least have the decency to PM this kind of thing instead of openly spamming the thread with pointless accusations and insults.
Want to explain to me what I'm missing in my response to you? I'm seriously confused.
I was speaking in general so it was not directed towards just one person. I didnt see a competition either but a lot of hate has been thrown my way and I'm somebody that shot kenny. So long story...still kinda long, I'm not hating. Was just trying to point out what I've been seeing to help others avoid pointless arguments when it never help. Sorry if you thought I was talking shit about you but I swear I wasn't.
"We've been through more together than you can imagine. Anyone who tries to get between me and her - ANYONE! - is gonna wind up dead! You hear me?"
Clementine was more valuable.
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Staged or not, it was real for Kenny, and he shows that he is ready to kill someone without knowing if he/she deserves it.
So would you be ready to let your "sister" go with mentally unstable violent man?
Just as Kenny saw AJ as his baby, Clementine was like a sister to Jane.
Making a stupid plan and trying to murder someone is a bit different thing...
Even luke thought Kenny is broken and reckless... And I think we can all trust on Lukes judgement.
Lee would have punched Kenny out, then they'd go find some booze and make up. No shooting would have been necessary.
well if not kenny,the lee that i was would have beat the shit out of jane. or at least abandonded her.
Kenny saw AJ as his baby and Clem as his daughter. Clem is just part of Janes point that she wants to prove and is no "sister to Clem!
Kenny went after Jane, not the other way around. So I guess the Lee you were would have jumped Jane then. Ok.
Sorry man I wasn't talking to you I was talking to the guy who posted it and what he said!
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