Is that referring to the Playing Dead interview? If so, they didn't really say there'd be a 'new angle', just that there were ideas going forward as to what they were going to do with Season 3.
Is that referring to the Playing Dead interview? If so, they didn't really say there'd be a 'new angle', just that there were ideas going forward as to what they were going to do with Season 3.
I say they just need at least a season trilogy dedicated only to Clementine and her growing up in the apocalypse. After season 3 its open season to other characters and ideas. If folks want to play as barbarian grown football player looking men that mindlessly plow and mow through zombies then just go play Left 4 Dead or Resident Evil. Or the ton of other games that focus on action only. I never cared much that much for those types and these Tell-Tale Walking Dead games were what brought me to The Walking Dead franchise originally anyway, because of the story of survivors and not so much the meaningless button mashing action.
I want Clem and only Clem, just because I want to see what SHE has become with no more people guiding her along. I really want to see how sh… moree'll deal with AJ too. They've just built up far too much potential with her character to have it any other way. I honestly feel like next season is what the whole thing was leading up to in regards to her character. The first two seasons were all about teaching her how to adapt to the world, now we're putting her to the ultimate test and we have to be there every step of the way, because whatever is coming next is going to be huge. She's all on her own now. It will be the moment when all of our choices in shaping this girl come together into what she'll become when she's figuring things out all by herself for once.
I hope that's how it plays out anyways..
Don't know what interview this is referring to... but "new angle" could mean anything.. And at Comic Con and the latest playing dead I picked up that they may be continuing Clem's story..
I hope you're right. It'd be a damn shame if Kirkman tightly restricted Telltale's freedom to manufacture a decent story. So far he's allowed them to do quite a lot, though, so I'm sure he'll give the developers some leeway in terms of time-skips.
At this point, I don't think Kirkman will really mind anymore. TT's TWD has become something far bigger than a spin-off, it has it's own ent… moreity now that I feel like it deserves 100% create control from Telltale at this point.
Plus, it takes place in a different State, I doubt the ZA will be ending any time soon so I don't think there's really that much of a problem being a time-skip to be honest.
I completely agree. If Clementine is the only one left alive she's the only one we still know from the past two seasons. Getting rid of her would be like starting a new series. It would be completely pointless.
Yup, the story should be focused on Clementine until the moment she's dead or completely and utterly safe. If it ended at any other point I'd be disappointed.
As I stated before, if Clem's story ends, the series should end.
I don't honestly see another option here, if Telltale decides against it, that's completely fine, but I wouldn't support that decision.
I think Christa needs to make a return of some form in Season 3. I'd like some closure in terms of her story, and I'd like the fate of her baby to be properly explained.
I wanted Christa to show up in ep 5 so we could play as her in season 3 with Clem around as the person our choices made her. Since Christa d… moreidn't come back I think season 3 should go back in time and we play as Christa from the time they were separated. The timeskip required to make AJ someone I really want to deal with as just Clem is unappealing in terms of continuing the story.
Saying that Clementine should continue as the main character for season 3 gets me thinking that she will always have AJ with her no matter what ending. Even if Telltale does a time skip to the point where the comics would be, it will still only make AJ like 2 years old. I can't imagine Clementine spending an entire season taking care of a toddler while trying so desperately to survive and no matter what ending you get in season 2 you know bad stuff will happen so that Clem and AJ will have to move on from their new homes.
The premise of taking care of AJ, Clementine, and dealing with all the other crazy shit that happens in Clem's life would sound like too much. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that taking care of AJ in season 3 would be a huge burden and lame. With that being said I would still love to play as Clem and I know Telltale could make it work, I just worry is all.
I think Christa needs to make a return of some form in Season 3. I'd like some closure in terms of her story, and I'd like the fate of her baby to be properly explained.
That's one unique way of approaching season 3. But there's still a few hurdles to overcome.
Playing as Clem's uncle would mean the player possesses knowledge of other characters/plot developments that the PC lacks. This means, if the uncle were to run into Lily, he'd be ignorant about the whole "shooting Carly/Doug" thing, unless Lily told him - which is unlikely.
Also, we'd essentially be retracing all of our steps in season 1 and 2. I'd prefer to explore new environments and landscapes.
If I were penning Season 3, I'd switch to a different protagonist (i.e., playable character) than Clementine. Yet, I wouldn't abandon her st… moreory. Instead, much like Lee served as the protagonist in Season 1, but the story was still about Clementine, I'd set up Season 3 to do the same. That's why the protagonist I'd choose for Season 3 would be...her uncle. Another father-figure type. Someone who lived apart from Clementine's family when the zombie outbreak occurred. And, for him, his personal journey is an attempt to rejoin his brother's family (and hence, Clementine...because we already know her parents are dead).
I'd open the first episode of Season 3 with her uncle having finally made his way to Clementine's home, only to discover the dead babysitter...the same message on the answering machine from her mom...and I'd even let him discover a camcorder with the home movie the babysitter took of Clem discovering those baby raccoons in her tr… [view original content]
Hm, I'm not so sure about playing as her in the season. She's already a fairly established character and I think Telltale could take a more interesting route with Clem or another protagonist. I do think there should be DLC released that shows us what happened between Season 1 and Season 2, however.
I completely agree. Because of AJ being so young and underdeveloped, it'd be very hard for players to develop a true connection with him... I'm not sure of how Telltale are going to go about this.
Saying that Clementine should continue as the main character for season 3 gets me thinking that she will always have AJ with her no matter w… morehat ending. Even if Telltale does a time skip to the point where the comics would be, it will still only make AJ like 2 years old. I can't imagine Clementine spending an entire season taking care of a toddler while trying so desperately to survive and no matter what ending you get in season 2 you know bad stuff will happen so that Clem and AJ will have to move on from their new homes.
The premise of taking care of AJ, Clementine, and dealing with all the other crazy shit that happens in Clem's life would sound like too much. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that taking care of AJ in season 3 would be a huge burden and lame. With that being said I would still love to play as Clem and I know Telltale could make it work, I just worry is all.
Unless Kirkman allows a time-skip of at least seven years in the video game, I don't see how AJ is going to be allowed to grow into anything besides a toddler.
I guess the next protagonist in s3 will be AJ (teenage or adult) and Clem will die because it would be very difficult to continue the story of Clem from 5 different endings. And that's why I think a story with multiple endings is stupid.
I guess the next protagonist in s3 will be AJ (teenage or adult) and Clem will die because it would be very difficult to continue the story of Clem from 5 different endings. And that's why I think a story with multiple endings is stupid.
Agreed. If they scratch Clementine then our next slice of The Walking Dead needs to have a different name, because it'd have no ties to previous seasons.
This was my idea too, would make more sense from a writer's perspective in my opinion too. We'd come across full circle with a trilogy showi… moreng Clementine's beginnings to her becoming a hardened heroic survivor, like Lee was.
Plus, I simply don't think it's such a good idea to change the protagonist every season. It worked from Lee to Clem since you trained her to be able to take care of herself. But Season Three I just don't see it working unless they just want to reboot the series. And if they do that, I think they should just restart the number and not call it Season Three.
If they don't keep us playing as Clem I don't know what I'll do. I'm more invested in her character now then ever before, she's my favorite character by a long shot and one of the reasons I love this game so much (season 2 especially) is because we are playing as her. So so so excited for season 3, don't know how I'm going to stand the wait....
I've started to watch the TV series in order to satiate my hunger for Season 3. X_X I'm already desperate and have pretty much developed a sort of faux separation disorder even though it's only been a week or so since Season 2's finale. Maybe I'll pick up The Walking Dead comics as well seeing as I hear they're good.
If they don't keep us playing as Clem I don't know what I'll do. I'm more invested in her character now then ever before, she's my favorite … morecharacter by a long shot and one of the reasons I love this game so much (season 2 especially) is because we are playing as her. So so so excited for season 3, don't know how I'm going to stand the wait....
I hope you're right. It'd be a damn shame if Kirkman tightly restricted Telltale's freedom to manufacture a decent story. So far he's allowed them to do quite a lot, though, so I'm sure he'll give the developers some leeway in terms of time-skips.
A well written thoughtful thread. I agree totally!
I also want Clem because I can think of no game with a child protagonist, much less a female one. It is different. Seeing Clem grow and to see what kind of adult she will be will be fulfilling. I'd like to see her become Lee, for it all to come full circle. Having someone different will just ruin it.
i think season3 is going to bring the series full circle, Lee looked after Clem and taught her how to survive. now were going to experience Clem taking AJ under her wing and teaching him how to survive, this in it of itself insinuates that Clem will most likely die, i just dont want to play a child version of AJ like we did Clem in season2.
That'd be great. Seeing Clem passing off Lee's old teachings as well as the ones she'd learnt on her own would be both terrific to see as well as extremely fulfilling. Both Season 1 and Season 2 would feel meaningful if Telltale steered the franchise in this direction; I just hope Kirkman allows them all the freedom they require.
A well written thoughtful thread. I agree totally!
I also want Clem because I can think of no game with a child protagonist, much less a … morefemale one. It is different. Seeing Clem grow and to see what kind of adult she will be will be fulfilling. I'd like to see her become Lee, for it all to come full circle. Having someone different will just ruin it.
Telltale: Damn, someone already guessed our plot, we'll have to rewrite season 3 all over again!
At least that's what I find risky posting about these kind of things. Sure it's a cool idea for season 3, but that's the thing, Telltale could have already had one of these ideas, but since you posted this before season 3 going up, Telltale might have to change a few things in order to avoid ripping you off.
If I were penning Season 3, I'd switch to a different protagonist (i.e., playable character) than Clementine. Yet, I wouldn't abandon her st… moreory. Instead, much like Lee served as the protagonist in Season 1, but the story was still about Clementine, I'd set up Season 3 to do the same. That's why the protagonist I'd choose for Season 3 would be...her uncle. Another father-figure type. Someone who lived apart from Clementine's family when the zombie outbreak occurred. And, for him, his personal journey is an attempt to rejoin his brother's family (and hence, Clementine...because we already know her parents are dead).
I'd open the first episode of Season 3 with her uncle having finally made his way to Clementine's home, only to discover the dead babysitter...the same message on the answering machine from her mom...and I'd even let him discover a camcorder with the home movie the babysitter took of Clem discovering those baby raccoons in her tr… [view original content]
True that. I doubt Telltale would ever directly take someone's idea and use it as their plotline for a game... Doesn't mean they can't gain inspiration from it though.
Telltale: Damn, someone already guessed our plot, we'll have to rewrite season 3 all over again!
At least that's what I find risky posti… moreng about these kind of things. Sure it's a cool idea for season 3, but that's the thing, Telltale could have already had one of these ideas, but since you posted this before season 3 going up, Telltale might have to change a few things in order to avoid ripping you off.
Still a pretty neat idea for season 3 though.
This'd be an interesting route for Telltale to delve down but almost impossible considering the time-skip that Kirkman would have to approve in order to make it possible. Even then, I'm not so sure playing as an adult Clementine would be all that great. I'd be alright with 16 or 17 years old max.
i think season3 is going to bring the series full circle, Lee looked after Clem and taught her how to survive. now were going to experience … moreClem taking AJ under her wing and teaching him how to survive, this in it of itself insinuates that Clem will most likely die, i just dont want to play a child version of AJ like we did Clem in season2.
I'm also open to playing as another character, as long as they're likable and well done. I'd still want Clem involved to some degree no matter what though. c:
Could definitely work though as I've said before I'm not so sure Telltale would do that seeing as that's old ground and they've specifically said Season 3 will have a 'new angle'.
Game can't go past comics so the oldest she can be in season 3 is 14 which is a great teen age in my opinion. Or they could just pick it up … morewhere they left off.
I agree with you I don't think Clem's story has been told 110% yet and I feel she should get one more season at least... If we played as someone else all our previous choices will have little relevance to the story...
True, there have indeed been too many father figures around as far as I'm concerned. I'd like a unique protagonist if they're turning away from Clem... Someone who's nothing like Lee or Clementine.
Enough father figures. Besides, if Clem had any family left she would have mentioned them at some point. This is a real ass-pull.
Chris… moreta was pretty much third-place in terms of the bond she left with Clem, even though the writers never really seemed to acknowledge that the woman literally kept Clem alive far longer than anyone else so far.
TWD has yet to fully explore what it's like to grow from a child to an adult in the ZA. I mean, there's plenty of kids in these stories but not enough time has passed for us to see what type of person a kid would grow into.
I suspect if we do get to follow Clem into adulthood, I imagine she won't be much like her young self.
Could definitely work though as I've said before I'm not so sure Telltale would do that seeing as that's old ground and they've specifically said Season 3 will have a 'new angle'.
Yeah, Clementine growing into an adult would definitely be cool to see and a new approach for sure. What I mean however is that if the whole theme was Clem looking after AJ then it would be thematically identical to Season 1 which I don't think is acceptable storytelling.
Clem being an adult is a "new angle".
TWD has yet to fully explore what it's like to grow from a child to an adult in the ZA. I mean, the… morere's plenty of kids in these stories but not enough time has passed for us to see what type of person a kid would grow into.
I suspect if we do get to follow Clem into adulthood, I imagine she won't be much like her young self.
Lol that doesn't matter. No offense or anything, but regardless of our speculations they won't change the entire season just because we guessed a small, or even a large part of it. It really doesn't matter, it's just talk.
Telltale: Damn, someone already guessed our plot, we'll have to rewrite season 3 all over again!
At least that's what I find risky posti… moreng about these kind of things. Sure it's a cool idea for season 3, but that's the thing, Telltale could have already had one of these ideas, but since you posted this before season 3 going up, Telltale might have to change a few things in order to avoid ripping you off.
Still a pretty neat idea for season 3 though.
Greg Miller mentioned in his '5 Things You Don't Know About The Walking Dead Season 2' video that Clem's story is far from over. I know he isn't associated with Telltale but he's certainly close to some of the developers, so perhaps he's not wrong?
Don't know what interview this is referring to... but "new angle" could mean anything.. And at Comic Con and the latest playing dead I picked up that they may be continuing Clem's story..
i think season3 is going to bring the series full circle, Lee looked after Clem and taught her how to survive. now were going to experience … moreClem taking AJ under her wing and teaching him how to survive, this in it of itself insinuates that Clem will most likely die, i just dont want to play a child version of AJ like we did Clem in season2.
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Is that referring to the Playing Dead interview? If so, they didn't really say there'd be a 'new angle', just that there were ideas going forward as to what they were going to do with Season 3.
.. i don't know too i haven't watch their latest playing dead, but i hope you're right..
If anything it sounded like they were definitely considering directly resuming Clementine's story, so I don't think we need to worry just yet. :P
I say they just need at least a season trilogy dedicated only to Clementine and her growing up in the apocalypse. After season 3 its open season to other characters and ideas. If folks want to play as barbarian grown football player looking men that mindlessly plow and mow through zombies then just go play Left 4 Dead or Resident Evil. Or the ton of other games that focus on action only. I never cared much that much for those types and these Tell-Tale Walking Dead games were what brought me to The Walking Dead franchise originally anyway, because of the story of survivors and not so much the meaningless button mashing action.
Don't know what interview this is referring to... but "new angle" could mean anything.. And at Comic Con and the latest playing dead I picked up that they may be continuing Clem's story..
I hope you're right. It'd be a damn shame if Kirkman tightly restricted Telltale's freedom to manufacture a decent story. So far he's allowed them to do quite a lot, though, so I'm sure he'll give the developers some leeway in terms of time-skips.
I completely agree. If Clementine is the only one left alive she's the only one we still know from the past two seasons. Getting rid of her would be like starting a new series. It would be completely pointless.
Yup, the story should be focused on Clementine until the moment she's dead or completely and utterly safe. If it ended at any other point I'd be disappointed.
I think Christa needs to make a return of some form in Season 3. I'd like some closure in terms of her story, and I'd like the fate of her baby to be properly explained.
Saying that Clementine should continue as the main character for season 3 gets me thinking that she will always have AJ with her no matter what ending. Even if Telltale does a time skip to the point where the comics would be, it will still only make AJ like 2 years old. I can't imagine Clementine spending an entire season taking care of a toddler while trying so desperately to survive and no matter what ending you get in season 2 you know bad stuff will happen so that Clem and AJ will have to move on from their new homes.
The premise of taking care of AJ, Clementine, and dealing with all the other crazy shit that happens in Clem's life would sound like too much. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that taking care of AJ in season 3 would be a huge burden and lame. With that being said I would still love to play as Clem and I know Telltale could make it work, I just worry is all.
Her baby seems to get a direct reference in ep5 so I'm hoping for dlc to explain that and get us ready to play as Christa in season 3.
That's one unique way of approaching season 3. But there's still a few hurdles to overcome.
Playing as Clem's uncle would mean the player possesses knowledge of other characters/plot developments that the PC lacks. This means, if the uncle were to run into Lily, he'd be ignorant about the whole "shooting Carly/Doug" thing, unless Lily told him - which is unlikely.
Also, we'd essentially be retracing all of our steps in season 1 and 2. I'd prefer to explore new environments and landscapes.
Hm, I'm not so sure about playing as her in the season. She's already a fairly established character and I think Telltale could take a more interesting route with Clem or another protagonist. I do think there should be DLC released that shows us what happened between Season 1 and Season 2, however.
I completely agree. Because of AJ being so young and underdeveloped, it'd be very hard for players to develop a true connection with him... I'm not sure of how Telltale are going to go about this.
Unless Kirkman allows a time-skip of at least seven years in the video game, I don't see how AJ is going to be allowed to grow into anything besides a toddler.
I guess the next protagonist in s3 will be AJ (teenage or adult) and Clem will die because it would be very difficult to continue the story of Clem from 5 different endings. And that's why I think a story with multiple endings is stupid.
There's always multiple beginnings.
Agreed. If they scratch Clementine then our next slice of The Walking Dead needs to have a different name, because it'd have no ties to previous seasons.
If they don't keep us playing as Clem I don't know what I'll do. I'm more invested in her character now then ever before, she's my favorite character by a long shot and one of the reasons I love this game so much (season 2 especially) is because we are playing as her. So so so excited for season 3, don't know how I'm going to stand the wait....
I've started to watch the TV series in order to satiate my hunger for Season 3. X_X I'm already desperate and have pretty much developed a sort of faux separation disorder even though it's only been a week or so since Season 2's finale. Maybe I'll pick up The Walking Dead comics as well seeing as I hear they're good.
Yeah, he's let them have quite a bit more control this season. As he was even less involved with Season Two.
So I do think it's very much possible he'll let them.
Im not against the idea of playing with another character, but I would miss my Clem Clemmy.
A well written thoughtful thread. I agree totally!
I also want Clem because I can think of no game with a child protagonist, much less a female one. It is different. Seeing Clem grow and to see what kind of adult she will be will be fulfilling. I'd like to see her become Lee, for it all to come full circle. Having someone different will just ruin it.
i think season3 is going to bring the series full circle, Lee looked after Clem and taught her how to survive. now were going to experience Clem taking AJ under her wing and teaching him how to survive, this in it of itself insinuates that Clem will most likely die, i just dont want to play a child version of AJ like we did Clem in season2.
That'd be great. Seeing Clem passing off Lee's old teachings as well as the ones she'd learnt on her own would be both terrific to see as well as extremely fulfilling. Both Season 1 and Season 2 would feel meaningful if Telltale steered the franchise in this direction; I just hope Kirkman allows them all the freedom they require.
Telltale: Damn, someone already guessed our plot, we'll have to rewrite season 3 all over again!
At least that's what I find risky posting about these kind of things. Sure it's a cool idea for season 3, but that's the thing, Telltale could have already had one of these ideas, but since you posted this before season 3 going up, Telltale might have to change a few things in order to avoid ripping you off.
Still a pretty neat idea for season 3 though.
True that. I doubt Telltale would ever directly take someone's idea and use it as their plotline for a game... Doesn't mean they can't gain inspiration from it though.
This'd be an interesting route for Telltale to delve down but almost impossible considering the time-skip that Kirkman would have to approve in order to make it possible. Even then, I'm not so sure playing as an adult Clementine would be all that great. I'd be alright with 16 or 17 years old max.
I'm also open to playing as another character, as long as they're likable and well done. I'd still want Clem involved to some degree no matter what though. c:
I think the next season should timeskip and be about the baby, so Clementine is sort of the new Lee Everett for the baby.
Could definitely work though as I've said before I'm not so sure Telltale would do that seeing as that's old ground and they've specifically said Season 3 will have a 'new angle'.
Hey, and we'd be able to compare her with Ellie from TLoU properly by then, since they have the same age.
True, there have indeed been too many father figures around as far as I'm concerned. I'd like a unique protagonist if they're turning away from Clem... Someone who's nothing like Lee or Clementine.
Clem being an adult is a "new angle".
TWD has yet to fully explore what it's like to grow from a child to an adult in the ZA. I mean, there's plenty of kids in these stories but not enough time has passed for us to see what type of person a kid would grow into.
I suspect if we do get to follow Clem into adulthood, I imagine she won't be much like her young self.
Yeah, Clementine growing into an adult would definitely be cool to see and a new approach for sure. What I mean however is that if the whole theme was Clem looking after AJ then it would be thematically identical to Season 1 which I don't think is acceptable storytelling.
Lol that doesn't matter. No offense or anything, but regardless of our speculations they won't change the entire season just because we guessed a small, or even a large part of it. It really doesn't matter, it's just talk.
Greg Miller mentioned in his '5 Things You Don't Know About The Walking Dead Season 2' video that Clem's story is far from over. I know he isn't associated with Telltale but he's certainly close to some of the developers, so perhaps he's not wrong?
Really? SO THE POINT OF THE FUCKING GAME WAS TO RAISE A TODDLER?
Nah, I'd want AJ out of the picture. We've already explored the theme of looking after a child in an apocalypse.