Kenny didn't beat on him until luke died. He pushed him, knocking him down, when he said stop and Arvo kept walking and if you tell Kenny to stop he only hits him twice...once for each fuck you Arvo yelled!
I have been the one talking to you about facts and opinions yet still you keep posting YOUR OPINIONS LIKE THEY ARE FACTS.
Stop arguing ju… morest to argue because it's getting very sad.
You don't have to argue an opinion because it's yours.
A fact is something that CAN NOT be debated. Like I have a size 11 shoe on. <<<FACT
Size 11 shoes are the only ones that are comfortable<<<OPINION
I shot Kenny so no point in arguing going with him was wrong. He was trying to kill someone! But Jane lied and turned simple arguments earlier into a deadly fight to prove a point!
Do you really think that Jane is stable and non violent?!? She even implies she has killed before to Clem.
Jane: I've never done that to somebody that didn't deserve it!
^^^Directly implying she has killed before. Not to mention we saw her kill Troy brutally as well. Just as brutal as anything Kenny has done IMO
Oh and by the way it seems many of your post have disappeared. I wonder why??
Absolutely he probably was but here's the secret...I would have shot him on the observation deck. Jane should know IF you are going to rob someone who has friends close by you have to be willing to kill that person. People are more dangerous than the walking dead.
I don't agree with Kenny beating on him!! That being said was this new bandit just going to join their group??? If not why carry along a hostage?
I shot Kenny so no point in arguing going with him was wrong. He was trying to kill someone! But Jane lied and turned simple arguments earli… moreer into a deadly fight to prove a point!
Do you really think that Jane is stable and non violent?!? She even implies she has killed before to Clem.
Jane: I've never done that to somebody that didn't deserve it!
^^^Directly implying she has killed before. Not to mention we saw her kill Troy brutally as well. Just as brutal as anything Kenny has done IMO
Oh and by the way it seems many of your post have disappeared. I wonder why??
It's not your views/opinions people don't like! It's the fact that you won't accept any view but your own as the correct one. Like I said before if you open your mind to what people are saying it doesn't mean you have to agree with it or change your opinion. It's called respecting others so that you in turn can be respected.
I've said before I do like reading your thoughts but not the trolling/inability to see that others DON'T agree that only your view point is valid.
She said she "I've never killed someone that didnt wrong me in some way"
She does seem very calm and stable through most of the game. (no… moret when fighting for Clem of course. Emotions and stuff)
Oh well, i guess people/mods hate my attitude/worldview.
Aaaaaand somehow i managed to cut half of my comment facedesk I was saying: you seem quite the pleasant fellow to have around, I haven't see… moren many pacific people around and I hope to see more 'calm' fans from both sides. Also, I do apologize for my poor english but I have... few issues in using this language.
I have no problems with people talking about opinions. But when im talking about facts and people keep shitting on them, it just gets pretty annoying and fast. And most of the people i debate with havent even played the game as much as i and get their "facts" wrong and debating becomes completely useless when they dont even know that they are the ignorant one.
It's not your views/opinions people don't like! It's the fact that you won't accept any view but your own as the correct one. Like I said be… morefore if you open your mind to what people are saying it doesn't mean you have to agree with it or change your opinion. It's called respecting others so that you in turn can be respected.
I've said before I do like reading your thoughts but not the trolling/inability to see that others DON'T agree that only your view point is valid.
Saying people are ignorant is a flaggable offense. You have said it to me as well when what we were talking about had no facts just opinions (Talking about why strangers wife left!) This is the problem! Stop being so negative about others and their opinions.
I have no problems with people talking about opinions. But when im talking about facts and people keep shitting on them, it just gets pretty… more annoying and fast. And most of the people i debate with havent even played the game as much as i and get their "facts" wrong and debating becomes completely useless when they dont even know that they are the ignorant one.
Absolutely he probably was but here's the secret...I would have shot him on the observation deck. Jane should know IF you are going to rob s… moreomeone who has friends close by you have to be willing to kill that person. People are more dangerous than the walking dead.
I don't agree with Kenny beating on him!! That being said was this new bandit just going to join their group??? If not why carry along a hostage?
How saying to other that "you dont know all the facts" is a fucking insult??? You were wrong about Strangers wife and i provided evidence from inside game which should be more than enough to prove that i was right and you were ignorant on that subject.
Saying people are ignorant is a flaggable offense. You have said it to me as well when what we were talking about had no facts just opinions… more (Talking about why strangers wife left!) This is the problem! Stop being so negative about others and their opinions.
How can you provide evidence. All you gave is what the stranger thought and said it was a fact. and saying you don't know all the facts isn't what you said. IGNORANT has been used multiple times by you!! You aren't correct nor do you know everything you just like acting like you do.
How saying to other that "you dont know all the facts" is a fucking insult??? You were wrong about Strangers wife and i provided evidence fr… moreom inside game which should be more than enough to prove that i was right and you were ignorant on that subject.
"At one point, Adam came up missing, and upon her husband's return to their camp, Tess was distraught, calling him a "monster". After driving their station wagon to a different point to search, they departed it and search the area. Upon arriving back without Adam, they discovered that their supplies had all been looted, by Lee Everett, or, if you play it a certain way it is taken by the group of the ending of Episode 2, although it was unknown to them at the time. This was the last straw for Tess, and she and Elizabeth abandoned Stranger, traveling on foot by themselves."
How can you provide evidence. All you gave is what the stranger thought and said it was a fact. and saying you don't know all the facts isn'… moret what you said. IGNORANT has been used multiple times by you!! You aren't correct nor do you know everything you just like acting like you do.
Again did you ask the wife? Oh you didn't??? Cuz she's the only one who knows why she left! everything else is an assumtion. and yes i know what ignorant means. It means someone assuming they are using facts from an in game story told by a crazy guy that keeps his wife's head in a bag! That alone should tell you that it isn't a fact but only the strangers view on the situation since again he is not her so can only assume!
"At one point, Adam came up missing, and upon her husband's return to their camp, Tess was distraught, calling him a "monster". After drivin… moreg their station wagon to a different point to search, they departed it and search the area. Upon arriving back without Adam, they discovered that their supplies had all been looted, by Lee Everett, or, if you play it a certain way it is taken by the group of the ending of Episode 2, although it was unknown to them at the time. This was the last straw for Tess, and she and Elizabeth abandoned Stranger, traveling on foot by themselves."
Is that now clear enough for you?
And are you sure you know what "ignorant" means?
Yeah, I get that he went through a lot and lost everyone...but I didn't exactly feel bad for him. I didn't want to kill or intentionally hurt him but I wasn't trying to befriend the little jerk either. I just can't see how AFTER he SHOT you, you would still feel bad for him. Granted, this scene took place before that, but in hindsight I wish my Kenny did do this. (It didn't because I convinced him to rejoin the group)
Btw, I shot Kenny....so if that HAD happened in my version than I definitely would have shot him but most likely without hesitation.
I didn't choose for Lee to steal the supplies, so therefore it wasnt his fault. You can't blame him for the actions of his other group members. Also, Arvo would still blame you whether or not you stole from him, and would put clems group in danger even though they didn't know nor have anything to do with the robbery. So fuck Arvo.
Well i assume you think stealing is wrong, but Lee was part of a group which stole from the Stranger and caused him to lose his wife and dau… moreghter (who he found the next day dead on side of a road). This broke the Stranger and after he had been talking with Clementine through walkie talkie, he decided that its best if she comes with him, instead of Lee. While Lee is going for Clems walkie talkie, he gets bit.
Well, the decision from Kenny to steal the supplies cost the Stranger his family and his sanity and for Lee his life. But Lee deserved to suffer right? Because of his group, Stranger lost everything.
However, if you think that Kenny/Lee stealing the supplies was ok, then why would you be angry at Arvo stealing supplies?
So much hypocrisy in these forums.
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MIKE offered Arvo the drink.
No it's when you don't convince Kenny to join the group by the fire!
I fixed my comment before, but seems like i forgot to save the changes. My bad.
Don't defend this behavior. IMO, Kenny was beating on him just because he could.
Its more safe to be with stable person than violent and unstable person <---- FACT... not opinion.
And Kenny being unstable and violent is a FACT.
They didn't say on purpose. They said anyone.
To kill Kenny? Been there done that.
I shot Kenny so no point in arguing going with him was wrong. He was trying to kill someone! But Jane lied and turned simple arguments earlier into a deadly fight to prove a point!
Do you really think that Jane is stable and non violent?!? She even implies she has killed before to Clem.
Jane: I've never done that to somebody that didn't deserve it!
^^^Directly implying she has killed before. Not to mention we saw her kill Troy brutally as well. Just as brutal as anything Kenny has done IMO
Oh and by the way it seems many of your post have disappeared. I wonder why??
Absolutely he probably was but here's the secret...I would have shot him on the observation deck. Jane should know IF you are going to rob someone who has friends close by you have to be willing to kill that person. People are more dangerous than the walking dead.
I don't agree with Kenny beating on him!! That being said was this new bandit just going to join their group??? If not why carry along a hostage?
She said she "I've never killed someone that didnt wrong me in some way"
She does seem very calm and stable through most of the game. (not when fighting for Clem of course. Emotions and stuff)
Oh well, i guess people/mods hate my attitude/worldview.
No i said the Punch wasnt on purpose but you said acciedently so that clears it up xD
It's not your views/opinions people don't like! It's the fact that you won't accept any view but your own as the correct one. Like I said before if you open your mind to what people are saying it doesn't mean you have to agree with it or change your opinion. It's called respecting others so that you in turn can be respected.
I've said before I do like reading your thoughts but not the trolling/inability to see that others DON'T agree that only your view point is valid.
Nice find! Didn't even knew that was posible.
thank you so much
and your english is perfectly understandable
I have no problems with people talking about opinions. But when im talking about facts and people keep shitting on them, it just gets pretty annoying and fast. And most of the people i debate with havent even played the game as much as i and get their "facts" wrong and debating becomes completely useless when they dont even know that they are the ignorant one.
Saying people are ignorant is a flaggable offense. You have said it to me as well when what we were talking about had no facts just opinions (Talking about why strangers wife left!) This is the problem! Stop being so negative about others and their opinions.
I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you saying they should have killed him?
How saying to other that "you dont know all the facts" is a fucking insult??? You were wrong about Strangers wife and i provided evidence from inside game which should be more than enough to prove that i was right and you were ignorant on that subject.
How can you provide evidence. All you gave is what the stranger thought and said it was a fact. and saying you don't know all the facts isn't what you said. IGNORANT has been used multiple times by you!! You aren't correct nor do you know everything you just like acting like you do.
"At one point, Adam came up missing, and upon her husband's return to their camp, Tess was distraught, calling him a "monster". After driving their station wagon to a different point to search, they departed it and search the area. Upon arriving back without Adam, they discovered that their supplies had all been looted, by Lee Everett, or, if you play it a certain way it is taken by the group of the ending of Episode 2, although it was unknown to them at the time. This was the last straw for Tess, and she and Elizabeth abandoned Stranger, traveling on foot by themselves."
Is that now clear enough for you?
And are you sure you know what "ignorant" means?
Again did you ask the wife? Oh you didn't??? Cuz she's the only one who knows why she left! everything else is an assumtion. and yes i know what ignorant means. It means someone assuming they are using facts from an in game story told by a crazy guy that keeps his wife's head in a bag! That alone should tell you that it isn't a fact but only the strangers view on the situation since again he is not her so can only assume!
Yeah, I get that he went through a lot and lost everyone...but I didn't exactly feel bad for him. I didn't want to kill or intentionally hurt him but I wasn't trying to befriend the little jerk either. I just can't see how AFTER he SHOT you, you would still feel bad for him. Granted, this scene took place before that, but in hindsight I wish my Kenny did do this. (It didn't because I convinced him to rejoin the group)
Btw, I shot Kenny....so if that HAD happened in my version than I definitely would have shot him but most likely without hesitation.
I didn't choose for Lee to steal the supplies, so therefore it wasnt his fault. You can't blame him for the actions of his other group members. Also, Arvo would still blame you whether or not you stole from him, and would put clems group in danger even though they didn't know nor have anything to do with the robbery. So fuck Arvo.