Or maybe it would have been more consistent and daring for the writers to actually let a "beloved" yet clearly damaged character like Kenny actually spend his last moments consumed by rage? We've already seen his overreaction to Clem trying to save Sarita in Amid The Ruins - how would he ever have the time to forgive Clem for siding with a 'baby-killer'?
You are just interpreting is death how you want, without paying attention to his character or his actions. Think about it, seriously. The ki… mored that he loved more that his own life just freaking shot him, after he went on a rampage because he loosed somebody who mattered to him just as much as Clem, in defense on the one that did it in the first place. Kenny has lose everything singlehandedly if you shoot him, but he still tries to absolve Clem of her guilt so she can go own and live her life, dying just like he lived-for those he cared about. You can´t just see that because everything he does and everything he saids is just another excuse to throw more shit at him.
To be honest, I wish Telltale had the bravery to commit to the idea of Kenny being irredeemable. Not because I dislike the character, but be… morecause it would have tied better to the season-wide theme of watching a friend eventually devolve into the maniac that Carver represented
Don't abandon that idea just yet. Remember, Lily's still out there somewhere.
People like Sarah, whose mental issues harm NO ONE and are generally pure in their innocence, are worth saving. But not angry men who can't control their violent impulses onto defenseless people, or sociopathic women who are willing to exploit children purely to provoke their guardians.
What a cruel title.
Kenny wasn't "diseased". He didn't need to be "put out of his misery". He was a man with trauma that she purposefully… more triggered, goaded, and exacerbated to prove a point. The fact that people who killed him excuse it by acting like if you're mentally ill you have to "die" is just... disgusting.
Look at how desperately Jane wanted Clementine. How desperately she wanted her Jaime replacement. She had her own trauma and saw herself in Kenny, but he wore his heart on his sleeve and she hid it and she hated him for that. She was projecting on to everyone around her--Sarah was the "bad" Jaime, Clem was the "good" Jaime. Kenny was the "bad" Jane. The "bad" ones had to go so she could play out her idealized sister/sister relationship.
She pretends she's otherwise, but in truth Telltale wrote her to be on the opposite side of the same spectrum as Kenny. That's why they're foils to each other. They coped with their trauma in their own toxic ways and Clementine got trampled in the process.
Is not about Kenny forgiving Clem for siding with a 'baby killer´, is about him depressed because he thinks AJ is dead and now Clementine as betrayed him, so he saids Clem ´did the rigth thing´ and all of that so she doesn´t have to live with the guilt. You didn´t even listen to what I said.
Or maybe it would have been more consistent and daring for the writers to actually let a "beloved" yet clearly damaged character like Kenny … moreactually spend his last moments consumed by rage? We've already seen his overreaction to Clem trying to save Sarita in Amid The Ruins - how would he ever have the time to forgive Clem for siding with a 'baby-killer'?
Clementine can shoot a nutjob like Stranger=Kenny while saving her mentor/guardian like Lee=Jane
Excuse me?
I don't remember Kenny kidnapping Clementine, and telling her he had her parents. I also don't remember Lee putting a baby, all alone, in a frozen car with no heat whatsoever and fully exposable to walkers.
That's just a really far-fetched 'similiarity'. Even though it's not a similarity at all.
Why did Jane want to kill Keny? Because she thought Keny will be a danger to Clem.... But when u got the Keny end u understand that Keny would never hurt Clem
personally i think kenny wasn't even over sarita and jane was a bitch for taking advantage of that.
Lets say that kenny was molested as a child and jane walked in and said "so, i've let then rape AJ...what why u mad whats the problem you get mad at everything"its similair to what happened in ep 5.
The only thing i thought off why she wanted kenny dead was because he stood up to her,what was her response when he was attacking arvo ? i thought she did nothing
I didn't end up staying with either, myself. But that's because I chose to go to Wellington, not have the official "Alone" ending. Kenny ended up alive because I didn't want any more blood on Clem's hands, so I just made her look away. I'm glad I left off on a good, ambiguous note with Kenny rather than slaughtered the poor man, but--as much as it hurts me to admit this--you are right in that he was a toxic presence in Clem's life. He acknowledges it himself by the end.
So yeah, though I technically had a "Kenny" ending, I more or less cut myself off from both of them as well. It feels like the more hopeful alternative to the actual "Alone" ending.
I agree, and it's why I reject both of them.
People like Sarah, whose mental issues harm NO ONE and are generally pure in their innocence… more, are worth saving. But not angry men who can't control their violent impulses onto defenseless people, or sociopathic women who are willing to exploit children purely to provoke their guardians.
Yes, because everyone knows using a hapless baby to trigger a psychotic breakdown in a man who's already been pushed to the edge, while endangering an eleven-year-old's life in the process, is entirely justified.
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Or maybe it would have been more consistent and daring for the writers to actually let a "beloved" yet clearly damaged character like Kenny actually spend his last moments consumed by rage? We've already seen his overreaction to Clem trying to save Sarita in Amid The Ruins - how would he ever have the time to forgive Clem for siding with a 'baby-killer'?
I hope so!
I agree, and it's why I reject both of them.
People like Sarah, whose mental issues harm NO ONE and are generally pure in their innocence, are worth saving. But not angry men who can't control their violent impulses onto defenseless people, or sociopathic women who are willing to exploit children purely to provoke their guardians.
Is not about Kenny forgiving Clem for siding with a 'baby killer´, is about him depressed because he thinks AJ is dead and now Clementine as betrayed him, so he saids Clem ´did the rigth thing´ and all of that so she doesn´t have to live with the guilt. You didn´t even listen to what I said.
Excuse me?
I don't remember Kenny kidnapping Clementine, and telling her he had her parents. I also don't remember Lee putting a baby, all alone, in a frozen car with no heat whatsoever and fully exposable to walkers.
That's just a really far-fetched 'similiarity'. Even though it's not a similarity at all.
Why did Jane want to kill Keny? Because she thought Keny will be a danger to Clem.... But when u got the Keny end u understand that Keny would never hurt Clem
personally i think kenny wasn't even over sarita and jane was a bitch for taking advantage of that.
Lets say that kenny was molested as a child and jane walked in and said "so, i've let then rape AJ...what why u mad whats the problem you get mad at everything"its similair to what happened in ep 5.
The only thing i thought off why she wanted kenny dead was because he stood up to her,what was her response when he was attacking arvo ? i thought she did nothing
It's pretty funny how people pretend not to know this. No guys, Kenny is not the only one who pushes Clementine.
I didn't end up staying with either, myself. But that's because I chose to go to Wellington, not have the official "Alone" ending. Kenny ended up alive because I didn't want any more blood on Clem's hands, so I just made her look away. I'm glad I left off on a good, ambiguous note with Kenny rather than slaughtered the poor man, but--as much as it hurts me to admit this--you are right in that he was a toxic presence in Clem's life. He acknowledges it himself by the end.
So yeah, though I technically had a "Kenny" ending, I more or less cut myself off from both of them as well. It feels like the more hopeful alternative to the actual "Alone" ending.
I gotta admit this ending was climatic,seeing as how unstable Kenny is.
Holy shit this got a lot of likes
I swear this has been like the tenth bumped dead thread today.
Please don't bump old threads.