Whats with these double standards?

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  • Isnt this Kenny/Jane thing over by now?

    You like Jane, good for you.
    You like Kenny, good for you.

  • From what I've seen, Kenny fans can't post about supporting Kenny, either. I've seen posts like "KENNEH IZ INSAIN, HAD TO POOT HIM DOWN", "WANTED TO KILL KENNEH FOR A LONG TIEM", "JAEN IS SELFLEZZ, KENNEH IS INSANE AND WOULD KILL CLEM, DONT U SEE THAT JAEN IS BETTAH?", etc. Or, another example. There is a user around here, @Belan, he made a pretty harmless remark about Jane, and, gee, what happens? He gets attacked by a group of Jane fans. Granted, he had the upper hand in his argument by being a rational side, but that doesn't deny the fact that he was attacked by a group of Jane fans. You did say that some of them are like that, but, from my experiences, most of them are like that.

    Saying that most Kenny fans act like that is generalisation. And it would've been fine on its own, because, yeah, sometimes you are right in that assumption, but it is worse because you don't want to admit that most of Jane fans act pretty much the same.

    Unless we agree that most of Kenny and Jane fans are acting like this, it will be a biased, one-sided argument.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Maybe because it is, I can't make a post about supporting Jane without getting attacked by multiple pro-Kenny fans "OMGURD JANE IS SELFISH"

  • It's easy to put most Kenny fans into one group. Way to generelise and then pretend to not do it.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Maybe because it is, I can't make a post about supporting Jane without getting attacked by multiple pro-Kenny fans "OMGURD JANE IS SELFISH"

  • He murders Jane because he beleives she killed a baby, no telling what else she couldn've done.

    And no, I do not say that, that's okay, but nothing ever suggested it was "just" for revenge. Besides, revenge for killing a little baby is hardly unreasonable, I'd have flipped the same way.

    zykelator posted: »

    Fist of all, everyone is selfish, so thats a bad argument. Kenny tries to murder Jane for his own selfish needs (revenge). That is selfish and insane.

  • But she said she didn't kill it, she told him she lost it accidentally. He just chose to believe that Jane killed the baby.

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    He murders Jane because he beleives she killed a baby, no telling what else she couldn've done. And no, I do not say that, that's okay, b

  • Preposterous. :P

    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • Kenny tried to murder Jane. Because he was mentally deranged and he only lived for AJ and Clementine. With AJ gone, Jane knew he would get aggressive and she wanted Clementine show that.

    Kenny wanted to murder Jane not only for losing AJ but he knew she couldn't protect Clementine and was a danger to the group. In fact even when you shoot Kenny he tells Clementine that you made the right choice, and sees what a monster he became. So selfish? No.

    Jane was in the wrong, end of.

    zykelator posted: »

    Fist of all, everyone is selfish, so thats a bad argument. Kenny tries to murder Jane for his own selfish needs (revenge). That is selfish and insane.

  • Preposterous. :P

    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • Even better.

    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • He is ready to murder jane as revenge, before even knowing what really happened. Its just Lilly & carley/doug situation all over again. Kenny has bad temper and bad judgement and this is why Jane wanted Clem away from him. He started beating Arvo before they even had time to find the supplies...

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    He murders Jane because he beleives she killed a baby, no telling what else she couldn've done. And no, I do not say that, that's okay, b

  • Preposterous. :P

    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • and if you like both ?

    Jere85 posted: »

    Isnt this Kenny/Jane thing over by now? You like Jane, good for you. You like Kenny, good for you.

  • She never said she lost him, only that it was an accident, which can be interpreted in a number of ways, and "lost" isn't always the first one.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    But she said she didn't kill it, she told him she lost it accidentally. He just chose to believe that Jane killed the baby.

  • Preposterous. :P

    (Had to reply to myself, message wouldnt get through :P)

    Jere85 posted: »

    Isnt this Kenny/Jane thing over by now? You like Jane, good for you. You like Kenny, good for you.

  • Hah... Belan and Rational in one sentence :D

    Lingvort posted: »

    From what I've seen, Kenny fans can't post about supporting Kenny, either. I've seen posts like "KENNEH IZ INSAIN, HAD TO POOT HIM DOWN", "W

  • edited September 2014

    What you don't seem to realise is that you have to choose between 2 lesser evils. Jane is smart and knows she can't force someone to like you, that's why she tries to set Kenny up by tricking him into believeing she killed the baby. Try to make Clem dislike Kenny by manipulation.

    Kenny knows he can lose it and hurt people, but he would never hurt Clem but he knows Clem can't know for sure.
    So he wants her to feel safe and maybe trust new people, live a good life.

    And my siblings don't have the same story as Kenny/Clem so it's hard to compare.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Again, Kenny says that after the fight. Would you let your sister/brother leave if she said she wanted to leave you? Jane didn't force Clem to go with her, she chose to let Clem go where she wants to go.

  • She only said "he's..." next thing Kenny does is goes outside and walks back in and tries to punch her.

    Lingvort posted: »

    She never said she lost him, only that it was an accident, which can be interpreted in a number of ways, and "lost" isn't always the first one.

  • edited September 2014

    Exactly this, it doesn't make Jane selfish for expressing her thoughts of wanting to be with Clem. If anything it makes her selfless as well because despite her obvious need for Clem, she still lets Clem go.

    Kenny on the other hand isn't so much about selfishness or selflessness, just about how much he cares about AJ and Clem, which is arguably the only two people he did care about in the first place. He finally realized how often he put Clem in danger through his direct and indirect actions, therefore had no choice but to let them go.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Again, Kenny says that after the fight. Would you let your sister/brother leave if she said she wanted to leave you? Jane didn't force Clem to go with her, she chose to let Clem go where she wants to go.

  • That's because he is. Just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he isn't.

    zykelator posted: »

    Hah... Belan and Rational in one sentence

  • Am i really the only one who like both ? ... :(

    Jere85 posted: »

    Preposterous. :P (Had to reply to myself, message wouldnt get through :P)

  • No, that's simply an assumption on your part. He doesn't mention killing her after she does it first herself, at which point I view it as self defense just as much as Jane fighting back.

    It's not until he has the knife on top of her he says he's going to kill her, before that point for all we know he was just intending to beat her up. Besides beating up Arvo was hardly unreasonable, he endangers the group several times, I wouldn't have done it, but I don't blame Kenny.

    Kenny has always had bad temper, I wouldn't say that he has bad judgement just that he's quick to pass it, but so is Jane.

    zykelator posted: »

    He is ready to murder jane as revenge, before even knowing what really happened. Its just Lilly & carley/doug situation all over again.

  • But what if that person feels mutual but needs to know that you won't try to let them go in order for them to truly know your intentions and feelings towards them.

    Mastahman posted: »

    The point is you are being greedy and selfish if you want something for yourself when it/the person needs space away from you to grow and love life.

  • Mess with the bull and you get the horns. She made the situation way worse intentionally to kill Kenny.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    Belan said that Jane put her knife away so Kenny would feel comfortable to have fist fight.

  • I like both.

    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • I like both. I just like Kenny more.

    Slither29 posted: »

    Am i really the only one who like both ? ...

  • You can want something as much as you like, but unless it's forced upon you or the other person is too weak to stop giving in. It wont change anything.

    Clem is stronger and didn't give in.
    Jane did not force her to stay.

    It's not selfish to express your emotions.

    Mastahman posted: »

    The point is you are being greedy and selfish if you want something for yourself when it/the person needs space away from you to grow and love life.

  • So Kenny is supposed to listen to her poisonous words?

    zykelator posted: »

    She only said "he's..." next thing Kenny does is goes outside and walks back in and tries to punch her.

  • She said "He's..." and then what? "He's dead", "He's missing", "He's been pushing up the daisies!"?

    She said "It was an accident!" a moment before. How does one interpret this phrase? "Oh, I put him inside an abandoned car!"? No, I seriously doubt that.

    zykelator posted: »

    She only said "he's..." next thing Kenny does is goes outside and walks back in and tries to punch her.

  • according to the game like 60% of people shot Kenny. So I dunno where you're getting your stats from lel

    Slither29 posted: »

    in this forum, there are 3 beliefs With Kenny 50 % Against Kenny 49 % People who knows that both sides are reasonable 1% (that's my opinion ^^) so it was in season 1 and now it's in season 2

  • But I barely see any Jane fans like this. However I do see Kenny fans like this on every thread. Now there is some Kenny fans who are not like that but I've never denied their existence. Neither did I deny the existence of Pro-Jane fans, just that I barely see them.

    I'd love to agree with you but I'm sorry, I just don't find most Jane fans acting like that. Maybe some but not most. Note that I am both a Jane and Kenny fan.

    Lingvort posted: »

    From what I've seen, Kenny fans can't post about supporting Kenny, either. I've seen posts like "KENNEH IZ INSAIN, HAD TO POOT HIM DOWN", "W

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    Slither29 posted: »

    and if you like both ?

  • Yeah Jane just killed Clem's family so she could have Clem for herself.. How is that not selfish?

    AsariTears posted: »

    Exactly this, it doesn't make Jane selfish for expressing her thoughts of wanting to be with Clem. If anything it makes her selfless as well

  • And only insane lunatic murderers ever throw a punch based on assumptions!

    zykelator posted: »

    She only said "he's..." next thing Kenny does is goes outside and walks back in and tries to punch her.

  • finally someone

    prink34320 posted: »

    I like both.

  • He said "i wouldnt have gone that far if she didnt lie about Aj" So clearly he was going for the kill right from start because he truly believed that she had killed AJ.

    After they went outside and Jane slashed at Kenny and Kenny throws her at ground, he says "i'll fucking kill you"

    Only reason she even had to use the knife was because Kenny was so aggressive.

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    No, that's simply an assumption on your part. He doesn't mention killing her after she does it first herself, at which point I view it as se

  • Jane killed Clem's family? I didn't realize Jane went to Savannah...

    Mastahman posted: »

    Yeah Jane just killed Clem's family so she could have Clem for herself.. How is that not selfish?

  • Note that I am both a Jane and Kenny fan.

    I seriously doubt that. Your arguments so far (even those that I've seen in other "Kenny vs. Jane" threads) were quite biased in Jane's favour.

    And, since we can't agree on that point, it's obvious that we can't convince one another, either.

    ErenCoral posted: »

    But I barely see any Jane fans like this. However I do see Kenny fans like this on every thread. Now there is some Kenny fans who are not li

  • Oh don't worry about him, he's a Batarian... he'd say anything to stir the pot...

    Nikolaj-11 posted: »

    "I can't do this alone. Is that what you want to hear?"

  • it's beacause of the beard, isn't it ?

    I like both. I just like Kenny more.

  • Jane can teleport and time travel. Did you not know?

    AsariTears posted: »

    Jane killed Clem's family? I didn't realize Jane went to Savannah...

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