He said "i wouldnt have gone that far if she didnt lie about Aj" So clearly he was going for the kill right from start because he truly beli… moreeved that she had killed AJ.
After they went outside and Jane slashed at Kenny and Kenny throws her at ground, he says "i'll fucking kill you"
Only reason she even had to use the knife was because Kenny was so aggressive.
He said "i wouldnt have gone that far if she didnt lie about Aj" So clearly he was going for the kill right from start because he truly beli… moreeved that she had killed AJ.
After they went outside and Jane slashed at Kenny and Kenny throws her at ground, he says "i'll fucking kill you"
Only reason she even had to use the knife was because Kenny was so aggressive.
So destroying another mans face and letting a 11 years old girl watch that isnt insane? trying to murder someone based on assumptions isnt insane? Beating up crippled kid over and over again after he lost his sister isnt insane?
Trying to fight against 10 people with guns while you are unarmed isnt insane?
So destroying another mans face and letting a 11 years old girl watch that isnt insane? trying to murder someone based on assumptions isnt i… morensane? Beating up crippled kid over and over again after he lost his sister isnt insane?
Trying to fight against 10 people with guns while you are unarmed isnt insane?
In fact it's quite the opposite, I loved Kenny. I made a very detailed thread about my feelings on the ending and congratulating Telltale for engineering their story in such a way that I had to make this bloody difficult choice.
However, if you're just simply going to throw out nonsense about Jane "killing Clem's family" then you obviously just hate Jane.
@Zykelator wow Jane can really do that? I'm glad I chose the ending I did then, those abilities could really come in handy in the ZA
Im fine with her killing Troy. Only thing she could have done to save herself and the group
Im fine with her leaving her sister behind. Jamie wanted to die for so long time and forcing her to stay alive was brutal.
Im fine with her leaving Sarah behind, because she wasnt going to survive with that mental state.
im fine with her leaving the baby in the car, since it was safe enough (didnt care much about the baby anyway).
Im fine with her tricking Kenny to show how unstable and dangerous he really is, so Clem would realize that its best to leave him behind
Is there something else she did which people think was wrong? Because pretty much everything she did sounds reasonable and logical thing to do for me (not maybe morally right).
I agree with a lot of things you said and I never really hated Jane, I just think she didn't have the right to do what she did. Like taking advantage of the situation and killed someone dear to Clem.
In fact it's quite the opposite, I loved Kenny. I made a very detailed thread about my feelings on the ending and congratulating Telltale fo… morer engineering their story in such a way that I had to make this bloody difficult choice.
However, if you're just simply going to throw out nonsense about Jane "killing Clem's family" then you obviously just hate Jane.
@Zykelator wow Jane can really do that? I'm glad I chose the ending I did then, those abilities could really come in handy in the ZA
So destroying another mans face and letting a 11 years old girl watch that isnt insane? trying to murder someone based on assumptions isnt i… morensane? Beating up crippled kid over and over again after he lost his sister isnt insane?
Trying to fight against 10 people with guns while you are unarmed isnt insane?
Note that I am both a Jane and Kenny fan.
I seriously doubt that. Your arguments so far (even those that I've seen in other "Kenny v… mores. Jane" threads) were quite biased in Jane's favour.
And, since we can't agree on that point, it's obvious that we can't convince one another, either.
That's after he pinned her against a glass wall and choked her. After she slashed him with the knife, both of them were going to kill eachother and there was no going back.
Oh, that's why Jane says (paraphrasing) "It's time to put him out of his misery" in case if you choose to say "Back off"?
Clearly she didn't want to kill him.
Not in equal measure, it seems. Kenny fans who shot him later backtracked their decision. Those who claim to be fans of both Kenny and Jane are usually just Jane fans, who don't hate/dislike/despise Kenny enough... yet.
Yes but her hidden agenda was to show Clementine Kenny's true colours due to Clementine being so blinded by her extended history to Kenny. Her hidden agenda was just as noble as Kenny wanting to get AJ and Clem to safety. The flaw in her plan was the execution.
Honestly though, if that car barricade wasn't there. I think Kenny would have started something then and there.
That's after he pinned her against a glass wall and choked her. After she slashed him with the knife, both of them were going to kill eachother and there was no going back.
I agree with a lot of things you said and I never really hated Jane, I just think she didn't have the right to do what she did. Like taking advantage of the situation and killed someone dear to Clem.
But I am both a Kenny and Jane fan. I can be a fan of Kenny and not have to throw the list of bad things he's done out of the window. :P In the end I think Jane is better but that still doesn't change the fact that I'm a Kenny fan and a Jane fan.
Not in equal measure, it seems. Kenny fans who shot him later backtracked their decision. Those who claim to be fans of both Kenny and Jane are usually just Jane fans, who don't hate/dislike/despise Kenny enough... yet.
I don't understand why people hate Jane so much...
I was really, really disappointed that she manipulated me into killing Kenny. I wanted C… morelem and Jane to have a big sister/little sister relationship but she made that impossible when she proved how crazy she was. I don't hate Jane though.. I'm just really disappointed she turned out to be something other than what I expected.
Well, that's a obvious no. His girlfriends were a Belgian and Indian women. The people he has been the most able to trust were black people, Lee and Clementine.
I can be a fan of Kenny and not have to throw the list of bad things he's done out of the window.
I'm a Kenny fan and I'm more than aware of bad things he did and what flaws he exhibits. This, however, doesn't convince me that he is worse than Jane.
Well, people who are (or, at least, claim to be) simultaneously both Kenny and Jane fans don't argue with one side or the other, being biased towards just one.
But I am both a Kenny and Jane fan. I can be a fan of Kenny and not have to throw the list of bad things he's done out of the window. :P In the end I think Jane is better but that still doesn't change the fact that I'm a Kenny fan and a Jane fan.
Jane saved Clementine from the ice and when they got inside, Kenny only wanted to beat Arvo, even if Clementine asks for help. Kenny can get so angry that he just doesnt care about Clementines safety. Kennys judgment isnt that great and this is exactly what Jane proved to be right (even before fight escalated or even started).
Kenny tried to murder Jane. Because he was mentally deranged and he only lived for AJ and Clementine. With AJ gone, Jane knew he would get a… moreggressive and she wanted Clementine show that.
Kenny wanted to murder Jane not only for losing AJ but he knew she couldn't protect Clementine and was a danger to the group. In fact even when you shoot Kenny he tells Clementine that you made the right choice, and sees what a monster he became. So selfish? No.
Jane was in the wrong, end of.
So, they both try to convince Clementine that their actions were right and the actions of their opponent weren't? If that is your point, I can even agree with it.
She tried to convince Clementine to leave Kenny behind earlier, but she realized that Clem still thinks Kenny is a good guy.
And of course Kenny said everything about protecting Clementine and all that shit after he murdered Jane.
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Kenny was many things but never insane.
Exactly my point. He killed Jane since he believed she murdered AJ. Why did Jane do this? Just so she can have Clementine to herself.
Jane never wanted to kill Kenny. If anything I think she would have rather died to prove to Clem just how serious Kenny's condition was.
Zyke do you condone with the things JANE did? Let's talk about her.
So destroying another mans face and letting a 11 years old girl watch that isnt insane? trying to murder someone based on assumptions isnt insane? Beating up crippled kid over and over again after he lost his sister isnt insane?
Trying to fight against 10 people with guns while you are unarmed isnt insane?
She did it so she could get Clementine away from Kenny.
Let's just leave it at that... I know you don't give a shit about Kenny so murdering him must've been the right thing for you.
Oh, that's why Jane says (paraphrasing) "It's time to put him out of his misery" in case if you choose to say "Back off"?
Clearly she didn't want to kill him.
Therefore she is selfish.
Like Kenny said.. She was nuts and had her own hidden agenda.
I said he were many things but not insane.
In fact it's quite the opposite, I loved Kenny. I made a very detailed thread about my feelings on the ending and congratulating Telltale for engineering their story in such a way that I had to make this bloody difficult choice.
However, if you're just simply going to throw out nonsense about Jane "killing Clem's family" then you obviously just hate Jane.
@Zykelator wow Jane can really do that? I'm glad I chose the ending I did then, those abilities could really come in handy in the ZA
That glorious mane has nothing to do with my bias for Kenny.
Im fine with her killing Troy. Only thing she could have done to save herself and the group
Im fine with her leaving her sister behind. Jamie wanted to die for so long time and forcing her to stay alive was brutal.
Im fine with her leaving Sarah behind, because she wasnt going to survive with that mental state.
im fine with her leaving the baby in the car, since it was safe enough (didnt care much about the baby anyway).
Im fine with her tricking Kenny to show how unstable and dangerous he really is, so Clem would realize that its best to leave him behind
Is there something else she did which people think was wrong? Because pretty much everything she did sounds reasonable and logical thing to do for me (not maybe morally right).
I agree with a lot of things you said and I never really hated Jane, I just think she didn't have the right to do what she did. Like taking advantage of the situation and killed someone dear to Clem.
tbh, I started thinking Kenny was just racist after all that Arvo shit. Wasn't cool coz I love Kenny.
But I am both a Kenny and Jane fan, it's just that I chose to shoot Kenny.
I love both characters. I just think in the end, Kenny lost it too bad and therefore he was in the wrong.
Jane brought it on herself but even she didn't think that Kenny would try to actually murder her.
If it was up to me, i would have left him behind earlier and that fight would have been avoided. I left Lilly behind also.
That's after he pinned her against a glass wall and choked her. After she slashed him with the knife, both of them were going to kill eachother and there was no going back.
And Kenny was better then? All he wanted was revenge something Jane didnt even do.
Not in equal measure, it seems. Kenny fans who shot him later backtracked their decision. Those who claim to be fans of both Kenny and Jane are usually just Jane fans, who don't hate/dislike/despise Kenny enough... yet.
Yes but her hidden agenda was to show Clementine Kenny's true colours due to Clementine being so blinded by her extended history to Kenny. Her hidden agenda was just as noble as Kenny wanting to get AJ and Clem to safety. The flaw in her plan was the execution.
Honestly though, if that car barricade wasn't there. I think Kenny would have started something then and there.
Does this mean she never wanted to kill him, or that she didn't want to do that initially, and in the end did try to do that, anyway?
Who did Jane kill that was dear to Clem?
her plan was to leave him behind. Not kill.
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But I am both a Kenny and Jane fan. I can be a fan of Kenny and not have to throw the list of bad things he's done out of the window. :P In the end I think Jane is better but that still doesn't change the fact that I'm a Kenny fan and a Jane fan.
And how do you know that, I wonder? Did Jane ever say she wanted to "leave him behind"? I don't think so.
After Kenny dies and they talk she does say "I just thought if you saw Kenny like that, you'd know we'd have to leave him behind"
Because she went against Kenny. Same reason people hated Luke.
Well, that's a obvious no. His girlfriends were a Belgian and Indian women. The people he has been the most able to trust were black people, Lee and Clementine.
I'm a Kenny fan and I'm more than aware of bad things he did and what flaws he exhibits. This, however, doesn't convince me that he is worse than Jane.
Well, people who are (or, at least, claim to be) simultaneously both Kenny and Jane fans don't argue with one side or the other, being biased towards just one.
And, of course, she said that only after she incited a fight that would only end up with one of them dying. A genius plan.
She tried to convince Clementine to leave Kenny behind earlier, but she realized that Clem still thinks Kenny is a good guy.
And of course Kenny said everything about protecting Clementine and all that shit after he murdered Jane.
Jane saved Clementine from the ice and when they got inside, Kenny only wanted to beat Arvo, even if Clementine asks for help. Kenny can get so angry that he just doesnt care about Clementines safety. Kennys judgment isnt that great and this is exactly what Jane proved to be right (even before fight escalated or even started).
So, they both try to convince Clementine that their actions were right and the actions of their opponent weren't? If that is your point, I can even agree with it.
I respect Kenny but this line made me shiver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFT5-2Nmx80
one of the best gifs, ever made