Yes? That's not what he quoted and not even the point. He accused me of thinking I'm better because I'm less emotional which was just silly.… more Kenny is not "emotional", he's violently out of control. The fact that he was able to recognize that about himself doesn't mean that he will never go into one of those rages again or lose control of himself again. That is what I mean about him not being cured. It has nothing to do with me thinking less of him. I cant think less of him because of the way he treated my Lee and Clem when they needed him.
I am saying something ridiculous to illustrate that what Viva-La-Lee said is ridiculous, and didn´t even had anything to do with what we were talking about.
Okay, I am going to reprashe this. How his this:
Just because he had a few rational moments ****doesnt mean he's suddenly fixed.
Not the same as this:
"He's not cured because he still acts irrational".
I am not arguing with you. I just telling you that the two sentences have the same meaning, even if Mastahman did not quote you word for word. But believe whatever you want.
What you said was ridiculous. What I said wasn't. You just said that you weren't serious about his plan being successful (which the chances of his plan working are, of course, outrageously improbable) and yet you say my hypothetical scenario is outlandish? Rubbish my friend, rubbish. Also, it had everything to do with the conversation at hand.
Of course I am not serious.
I am saying something ridiculous to illustrate that what Viva-La-Lee said is ridiculous, and didn´t even had anything to do with what we were talking about.
Sorry, but it was ridiculous. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then you go and post a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous?
What you said was ridiculous. What I said wasn't. You just said that you weren't serious about his plan being successful (which the chances … moreof his plan working are, of course, outrageously improbable) and yet you say my hypothetical scenario is outlandish? Rubbish my friend, rubbish. Also, it had everything to do with the conversation at hand.
What you said was ridiculous. What I said wasn't.
Sorry, but it was ridiculous. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that … moreone time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then you go and post a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous?
I believe that Viva meant Kenny might indirectly hurt Clementine, because of his bad temper and reckless behaviour.
Yes. That´s the point. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then Viva-La-Lee goes and posts a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous? What does that have to do with the conversation?
I believe that Viva meant Kenny might indirectly hurt Clementine, because of his bad temper and reckless behaviour.
Yes. That´s the … morepoint. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then Viva-La-Lee goes and posts a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous? What does that have to do with the conversation?
I am not arguing with you. I just telling you that the two sentences have the same meaning, even if Mastahman did not quote you word for word. But believe whatever you want.
I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally.
No. You said, "Kenny hitting Clem accidentally=could totally hurt her.
Okay.
It seems like you are not even trying to seem logical."
Which has no indication you ever meant hurt with intention. Only that he could (your word) not hurt her. A statement obviously disproven. I posted the example of unintentionally hurting her as evidence of just such an event.
What you said was ridiculous. What I said wasn't.
Sorry, but it was ridiculous. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that … moreone time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then you go and post a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous?
Kenny would never hurt Clementine.
Kenny's wrath is directed solely at fuck-ups, shitbirds, communists, and other sinners.
Because he'… mores unstable from being concentrated Kenny, however, he's afraid he wouldn't be able to laserbeam focus his efforts on protecting her and AJ. This is understandable as it's like trying to focus the heat and light of the sun itself into a pinprick. That effort is possibly world-ending.
Well to be honest, Kenny would have murdered Ben also, if the group did stop him (and later he wants Lee to murder him). Its pretty much group effort that keeps Kenny from murdering everyone that does something wrong in his eyes.
Cant have sympathy for people like Kenny in zombie apocalypse. It gets you killed.
People trend to forget he's one of the (if not THE) character that has suffered the most in both seasons...
Lost Katjaa, Duck, tried to s… moreave the kid that provoked their deaths, met Clementine again after obtaining a safe place at the Lodge with Sarita, Walter and Matthew, those three die (Walter was his fault though, but Carver is quite unpredictable), loses his eye, and gets called crazy by everybody else in the group.
You really think you'd be happy-fancy-pants after all that shit? You'd really forgive Arvo for putting Clementine and the baby in danger when he could have told those to back off?
Really?
If you consider his attitude to be craziness, I think you have no idea of human nature.
I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally.
No. You said, "Kenny hitt… moreing Clem accidentally=could totally hurt her.
Okay.
It seems like you are not even trying to seem logical."
Which has no indication you ever meant hurt with intention. Only that he could (your word) not hurt her. A statement obviously disproven. I posted the example of unintentionally hurting her as evidence of just such an event.
First of all, that whole scene is determinant. Second, Kenny was about to lose Duck. Three, Lee is the one that stars that determinant fight and the insults, not Kenny.
yeah, so what about the time that he calls Lee useless , and even if you sided with him all the way he blame you for not shooting the girl in EP 3, for me that's kenny's true colors , i dont know how people can love this guy , he was a cunt in S1 and he's a cunt in S2.
i respect the fact that you like him i hope that you respect me opinion too.
Seriously?
First of all, that whole scene is determinant. Second, Kenny was about to lose Duck. Three, Lee is the one that stars that determinant fight and the insults, not Kenny.
If you don´t side with him in killing Larry before he turns or if you just let the timer run out. That´s him being angry and guilty, not his true colors.
he blame you for not shooting the girl in EP 3
She was unsalvageable, and not shooting her could have benefited the group.
yeah, so what about the time that he calls Lee useless , and even if you sided with him all the way he blame you for not shooting the gi… morerl in EP 3, for me that's kenny's true colors , i dont know how people can love this guy , he was a cunt in S1 and he's a cunt in S2.
i respect the fact that you like him i hope that you respect me opinion too.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
I am not saying is not a valid reason-frankly, I dont care if other people like Kenny or not-, I am just explaining my side of the argument. Nothing more. Don´t make this something that is not.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
about the time that he calls Lee useless
If you don´t side with him in killing Larry before he turns or if you just let the timer ru… moren out. That´s him being angry and guilty, not his true colors.
he blame you for not shooting the girl in EP 3
She was unsalvageable, and not shooting her could have benefited the group.
Kenny, Clem, and AJ Spent Nine Days Together Which is most amount of time thats' past since the 18 (or 16 remember) month Time Skip in S2 E1. Were not sure what happened during that time but Those Days and Reflecting on Killing Jane could of been very therapeutic for Kenny. No doubt it help build upon the bonds between him Clem & the Baby AJ
He did hurt clementine, he violently shoves her to the ground if you try to get between him and Jane.
And? I not even going to tell you Kenny´s reason- if you don´t get that Kenny has right to get carried away when thinking somebody has killed AJ, then nothing I say will change this-, but Jane does that too.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
I never said it was not a valid reason. Hell, honestly I don´t give a fuck if people dislike Kenny. It was just explaining my side of the argument, nothing more. Don´t turn this into something it is not.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
He did hurt clementine, he violently shoves her to the ground if you try to get between him and Jane.
And? I not even going to tell … moreyou Kenny´s reason- if you don´t get that Kenny has right to get carried away when thinking somebody has killed AJ, then nothing I say will change this-, but Jane does that too.
He is therefore "cured", and happy and spending eternity with Duck and Kat like he really wanted, and not going on rage-fuelled rampages beating people to death.
There's little you can do for someone in Kenny's circumstances. No, he wasn't "cured". The worst of Kenny appears when he's met with any sort of confrontation. Regardless of the ending you picked, Kenny is left with none.
Kenny hitting Clem accidentally=could totally hurt her.
Is pretty clear to me that the bolded parts imply I meant that he couldn´t not hurt her intentionally, but whatever.
Calculation vs rage. I'll take the first. Though, I don't honestly believe she was "calculating" anything during that fight. She is as blood raged as Kenny.
Calculation vs rage. I'll take the first. Though, I don't honestly believe she was "calculating" anything during that fight. She is as blood raged as Kenny.
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Your... Your not serious right, If Kenny had even tried that he would be dead. Even Kenny fanboys cant claim thats a a good plan
Okay, I am going to reprashe this. How his this:
Not the same as this:
Of course I am not serious.
I am saying something ridiculous to illustrate that what Viva-La-Lee said is ridiculous, and didn´t even had anything to do with what we were talking about.
Rephrase it all you want. I dont even know why you are arguing with me when the discussion was pretty much over since Mahatman didn't respond.
I am not arguing with you. I just telling you that the two sentences have the same meaning, even if Mastahman did not quote you word for word. But believe whatever you want.
What you said was ridiculous. What I said wasn't. You just said that you weren't serious about his plan being successful (which the chances of his plan working are, of course, outrageously improbable) and yet you say my hypothetical scenario is outlandish? Rubbish my friend, rubbish. Also, it had everything to do with the conversation at hand.
Fuck Kenny & Jane
Sorry, but it was ridiculous. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then you go and post a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous?
I believe that Viva meant Kenny might indirectly hurt Clementine, because of his bad temper and reckless behaviour.
Yes. That´s the point. I said that Kenny hitting Clem unintentionally that one time doesn't mean he could hurt her intentionally. And then Viva-La-Lee goes and posts a example in which Kenny could have hurt Clem unintentionally. How is that not ridiculous? What does that have to do with the conversation?
Yeah... There is no point trying to reason with you.
I know this is true. Does it mean that Kenny could intentionally hurt Clem? Nope. That all it was saying.
I think you accidentally replied to someone else :P
EDIT: Nevermind,I just misunderstood the first line
Mahatman lol'd
The fine thing about a forum is I can start the argument and someone who agrees can continue if I'm unavailable.
And I disagree with pretty much all you say KCohere, not just here.
Just a hater
So I'm not crazy, right? Thought maybe I was missing something here haha.
No. You said, "Kenny hitting Clem accidentally=could totally hurt her.
Okay.
It seems like you are not even trying to seem logical."
Which has no indication you ever meant hurt with intention. Only that he could (your word) not hurt her. A statement obviously disproven. I posted the example of unintentionally hurting her as evidence of just such an event.
He did hurt clementine, he violently shoves her to the ground if you try to get between him and Jane.
Well to be honest, Kenny would have murdered Ben also, if the group did stop him (and later he wants Lee to murder him). Its pretty much group effort that keeps Kenny from murdering everyone that does something wrong in his eyes.
Cant have sympathy for people like Kenny in zombie apocalypse. It gets you killed.
Is pretty clear to me that the bolded parts imply I meant that he couldn´t not hurt her intentionally, but whatever.
"There is no cure for being a cunt"
Seriously?
First of all, that whole scene is determinant. Second, Kenny was about to lose Duck. Three, Lee is the one that stars that determinant fight and the insults, not Kenny.
yeah, so what about the time that he calls Lee useless , and even if you sided with him all the way he blame you for not shooting the girl in EP 3, for me that's kenny's true colors , i dont know how people can love this guy , he was a cunt in S1 and he's a cunt in S2.
i respect the fact that you like him i hope that you respect me opinion too.
If you don´t side with him in killing Larry before he turns or if you just let the timer run out. That´s him being angry and guilty, not his true colors.
She was unsalvageable, and not shooting her could have benefited the group.
I am not saying is not a valid reason-frankly, I dont care if other people like Kenny or not-, I am just explaining my side of the argument. Nothing more. Don´t make this something that is not.
AlanSpencer, people don't agree with Kenny's ideas or with what he says, that's reason enough to dislike him. Leaving the women in street can be considered cruel and some people don't agree with, that can be valid reason to dislike him.
Kenny, Clem, and AJ Spent Nine Days Together Which is most amount of time thats' past since the 18 (or 16 remember) month Time Skip in S2 E1. Were not sure what happened during that time but Those Days and Reflecting on Killing Jane could of been very therapeutic for Kenny. No doubt it help build upon the bonds between him Clem & the Baby AJ
And? I not even going to tell you Kenny´s reason- if you don´t get that Kenny has right to get carried away when thinking somebody has killed AJ, then nothing I say will change this-, but Jane does that too.
I never said it was not a valid reason. Hell, honestly I don´t give a fuck if people dislike Kenny. It was just explaining my side of the argument, nothing more. Don´t turn this into something it is not.
hey buddy.
That jane doesnt too makes not one lick of difference, and no theres no excuse for harming an innocent for no reason other than to commit murder
Actually, it does. Jane is not acting in rage, but with cold calculation.
Yes. I shot him.
He is therefore "cured", and happy and spending eternity with Duck and Kat like he really wanted, and not going on rage-fuelled rampages beating people to death.
There's little you can do for someone in Kenny's circumstances. No, he wasn't "cured". The worst of Kenny appears when he's met with any sort of confrontation. Regardless of the ending you picked, Kenny is left with none.
Haha ok. Have a good one!
Calculation vs rage. I'll take the first. Though, I don't honestly believe she was "calculating" anything during that fight. She is as blood raged as Kenny.
Kenny: I fucking kill you!
Jane: I knew you would.
Blood rage. I've called out some crazy one liners during fights.
Really?
Are you forgetting that she intended for the figth to happen, that she knew how Kenny could react?
And?
I PREFER THIS ENDING:
Stay with Kenny and Leave Wellington in The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 5 - No Going Back
BECAUSE,
I honestly don't see Kenny getting out of this alive. He's just one of those characters who will be with you, almost to the end.
HE'S JUST ONE OF THOSE CHARACTERS WHO WILL BE WITH YOU, ALMOST TO THE END!
FOREVER KENNY AND CLEMENTINE.
I LOVE KENNY.