an apology is all that is needed? just saying something makes it true?
do not misunderstand me. i believe kenny believes it to be true. (at least mostly considering what he says in the wellington ending) but actions speak louder then words.
with every punch life has dealt him he got worse.
remember the kenny at the beginning of season 1? the man that was sometimes even the voice of reason?
you saw what he did when he just hear her say she is sorry and it was an accident? what if he actually sees the baby die, clementine is in some indirect way responsible for it, and he has no one he can blame it on beside her?
Kenny would never accuse Clementine when the baby would be dead.
did you actually believe that? after kenny made it more then clear he thinks she is a selfish mad coldblooded babykiller, and was in a state of pure rage? do you think he would actually have believed her and that it would have stopped him in the end?
he could not even stop himself from killing arvo.
yes, i can not be sure if he would have stopped after this eight punches. but you know, eight punches especially at the head, in a position where it slams against the floor can easily kill someone.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good.
Arvo has earned the beating. Why is Arvo back, although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So, Arvo has earned the beating, because he started with the whole shit and because of him all died! Stupid Arvo.
The fact is: Kenny was broken when his family died and then Sarita. This was too much for him. That was also the reason, Kenny was on Clemen… moretine short sour, but then Kenny apologized, because he then said to Clem: I always forget that you're a child. You tried to do the right thing, Clem. Kenny thought that Jane has killed the baby and then Kenny saw Jane a danger for Clementine.
an apology is all that is needed? just saying something makes it true?
do not misunderstand me. i believe kenny believes it to be true. (at least mostly considering what he says in the wellington ending) but actions speak louder then words.
with every punch life has dealt him he got worse.
remember the kenny at the beginning of season 1? the man that was sometimes even the voice of reason?
you saw what he did when he just hear her say she is sorry and it was an accident? what if he actually sees the baby die, clementine is in some indirect way res… [view original content]
No matter where I go, it seems that the canon choice of this game is always saving Carley in Episode 1. I picked Doug, and gee, you never ev… moreer see anyone talk about him if he died in E3. I don't know, it seems kind of weird to have people posting only about Carley. I guess that's how it's always going to be though.
Kenny would never accuse Clementine when the baby would be dead.
he accused her when serita died.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good.
do you belief everything people tell you?
Arvo has earned the beating. Why is Arvo back, although I gave him his medicine back?
well he is still a cripple that had to go all the way back to his group without any form of protection.
Arvo wanted to rob the whole group!
how the hell do you want to know that? if my little brother just came back, a cripple walking alone unarmed though a post apocalyptic world (probably telling people took our hideout), he could beg me not to rob this people and i would not care.
he did not shot and even tried to resolve the situation.
how could he possible deserve to be beaten to death?
an apology is all that is needed? just saying something makes it true?
do not misunderstand me. i believe kenny believes it to be tru… moree. (at least mostly considering what he says in the wellington ending) but actions speak louder then words.
with every punch life has dealt him he got worse.
remember the kenny at the beginning of season 1? the man that was sometimes even the voice of reason?
you saw what he did when he just hear her say she is sorry and it was an accident? what if he actually sees the baby die, clementine is in some indirect way responsible for it, and he has no one he can blame it on beside her?
Kenny would never accuse Clementine when the baby would be dead.
did you actually believe that? after kenny made it more then clear he thinks she is a selfish mad coldblooded babykiller, and was in a state of pure rage? do you think he would actually have believed her and that it would have sto… [view original content]
I like your theory on the dream's meaning, but I still think I couldn't pull Kenny any farther.
I expected if there was a dream for it to be something else, but the whole thing was a really cute little scene.
I like your theory on the dream's meaning, but I still think I couldn't pull Kenny any farther.
I expected if there was a dream for it to be something else, but the whole thing was a really cute little scene.
I thought that Lee says something important, perhaps a sign ... and then while talking to Lee, the camera will be shown on Kenny. I thought it has something to do with Kenny.
Because Lee says that people do things is not always correct. It's not like math. Sometimes there just isn't a right answer, but while Kenny had killed Jane, Kenny was sad because he thought that Jane would have killed the baby. And sad people, that can make people angry sometimes. Maybe, that why Kenny was angry.
But honestly, When Jane is died, that was Jane's fault.
I thought that Lee says something important, perhaps a sign ... and then while talking to Lee, the camera will be shown on Kenny. I thought … moreit has something to do with Kenny.
Because Lee says that people do things is not always correct. It's not like math. Sometimes there just isn't a right answer, but while Kenny had killed Jane, Kenny was sad because he thought that Jane would have killed the baby. And sad people, that can make people angry sometimes. Maybe, that why Kenny was angry.
But honestly, When Jane is died, that was Jane's fault.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
do you belief everything people tell you?
No, but Kenny would never lie like Jane.
well he is still a cripple that had to go all the way back to his group without any form of protection.
how the hell do you want to know that? if my little brother just came back, a cripple walking alone unarmed though a post apocalyptic world (probably telling people took our hideout), he could beg me not to rob this people and i would not care.
he did not shot and even tried to resolve the situation.
how could he possible deserve to be beaten to death?
Why is he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group.
Kenny would never accuse Clementine when the baby would be dead.
he accused her when serita died.
Kenny has said, if Jane had … morejust said the baby is fine, would be all good.
do you belief everything people tell you?
Arvo has earned the beating. Why is Arvo back, although I gave him his medicine back?
well he is still a cripple that had to go all the way back to his group without any form of protection.
Arvo wanted to rob the whole group!
how the hell do you want to know that? if my little brother just came back, a cripple walking alone unarmed though a post apocalyptic world (probably telling people took our hideout), he could beg me not to rob this people and i would not care.
he did not shot and even tried to resolve the situation.
how could he possible deserve to be beaten to death?
he accused her when serita died.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
do you belief everything people tell… more you?
No, but Kenny would never lie like Jane.
well he is still a cripple that had to go all the way back to his group without any form of protection.
how the hell do you want to know that? if my little brother just came back, a cripple walking alone unarmed though a post apocalyptic world (probably telling people took our hideout), he could beg me not to rob this people and i would not care.
he did not shot and even tried to resolve the situation.
how could he possible deserve to be beaten to death?
Why is he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group.
Who saved Kenny in the fight with the Russians? Jane
If she really wanted him death for her own damn reasons, it would have been easy to let him die before killing the russian, but she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver (to her, she also wasn't sure) before killing/leaving him.
It's Kenny's fault.
Who is lying? Jane.
Who plays behind his back? Jane.
Who has two faces? Jane.
Who has left the group al… moreready? Jane.
Who wanted a fight? Jane.
Who tries to approach by lying to Clementine? Jane.
Who is sneaky? Jane.
Who is a psychopath? Jane.
Who can't be trusted? Jane.
Who tried to steal medicine from Arvo and brought the entire group in danger, because Arvo thought would be threatened with his group? Jane.
Isn't Kenny's fault!
Everything was Jane's fault!
Maybe she wasn't sure. But she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver? No, Kenny isn't Carver. And Jane said after saved the group:
Jane: I didn't know this man... I've never killed someone that didn't wrong me in some way... that didn't deserve it. Tried to pretend he was a walker... but... it's different. I didn't think it would be...
Clem: You saved us.
Jane: Yeah... that's why I did it, but... it felt wrong.
So, what what what? It felt wrong, but you saved the group!?
Just because you didn't know him, because he hasn't threatened you, he doesn't deserve?
This sentence is nonsense of Jane. I don't think Jane wanted to save the group.
Who saved Kenny in the fight with the Russians? Jane
If she really wanted him death for her own damn reasons, it would have been easy to … morelet him die before killing the russian, but she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver (to her, she also wasn't sure) before killing/leaving him.
Who blames a kid for his "girlfriend's" death?" Kenny.
Who irrationally makes decisions mainly focusing on AJ and no one else? Kenny.
Who nearly beats an innocent kid to death? Kenny.
Who murders a woman, assuming she killed a baby even though she didn't confirm it? Kenny.
Who uses a kid to convince the group to follow him? Kenny.
It's Kenny's fault why Luke died, he just blames it on Arvo so he doesn't feel bad.
After all, Kenny wants everyone to follow him, like a sheep to a shepard. If you don't side with Kenny, he'll guilt-trip you and make you feel bad as you are not making the "right" decision.
Kenny manipulates Clementine to do thing for him, as he spends his time sitting around beating people up and then makes Clementine do the "Kenny-Is-Sorry-Please-Forgive-Him-He's-Just-Broken" to them.
The reason why Mike, Bonnie and Arvo left is valid. Kenny is a psychopath that'd kill everyone in the group sooner or later.
It's Kenny's fault.
Who is lying? Jane.
Who plays behind his back? Jane.
Who has two faces? Jane.
Who has left the group al… moreready? Jane.
Who wanted a fight? Jane.
Who tries to approach by lying to Clementine? Jane.
Who is sneaky? Jane.
Who is a psychopath? Jane.
Who can't be trusted? Jane.
Who tried to steal medicine from Arvo and brought the entire group in danger, because Arvo thought would be threatened with his group? Jane.
Isn't Kenny's fault!
Everything was Jane's fault!
So what did Jane want to do if she didn't want to save the group? And yeah, Kenny was becoming a new Carver. He destroyed Carver's head, he insulted Clementine for trying to save Sarita's life, he wanted everybody else to follow his orders and not say a word about it, without making any reasoning (turning on a truck while in a group doesn't let you decide for everybody else).
"He's been through a lot" And has Clementine been in a little girls party all this time? She saw her zombified parents and still managed to pull a grown man's body through a horde of zombies, she had to kill/let alone to die the person that took care of her since the ZA begun, she saw everybody from her first group die one by one, she saw Omid getting killed in front of her, she had to kill/let alone to die a dog she was getting attached to, she had to leave Christa with bandits knowing that if she died it would be kind of her fault for not being able to do anything, she saw everyone from her second group get killed one by one, she's been in a lot of situations where a zombie almost kills her thanks to lazy adults, she was kidnapped by a stranger...
And a lot of other shit, and you can also sum up to that that she's just a little girl that knew nothing of life before the ZA, whereas Kenny is a grown man from the country side, where it's easier for this kind of situations to happen, we could say he's a bit more used to "hard stuff".
Yet, Clementine didn't feel the need to crush Jane's head when she (also) thought AJ was killed, yet Kenny did feel the need to kill Jane without even reasoning with her yet.
Maybe she wasn't sure. But she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver? No, Kenny isn't Carver. And Jane said after saved the g… moreroup:
Jane: I didn't know this man... I've never killed someone that didn't wrong me in some way... that didn't deserve it. Tried to pretend he was a walker... but... it's different. I didn't think it would be...
Clem: You saved us.
Jane: Yeah... that's why I did it, but... it felt wrong.
So, what what what? It felt wrong, but you saved the group!?
Just because you didn't know him, because he hasn't threatened you, he doesn't deserve?
This sentence is nonsense of Jane. I don't think Jane wanted to save the group.
And yeah, Kenny was becoming a new Carver. He destroyed Carver's head
You know, that Kenny has lost one eye, because Carver has beaten him. That's obvious, that Kenny kills Carver.
he insulted Clementine for trying to save Sarita's life
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
he wanted everybody else to follow his orders and not say a word about it, without making any reasoning (turning on a truck while in a group doesn't let you decide for everybody else)
Kenny wanted to Wellington, where it is safer. It is best for the group.
Yet, Clementine didn't feel the need to crush Jane's head when she (also) thought AJ was killed, yet Kenny did feel the need to kill Jane without even reasoning with her yet
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
So what did Jane want to do if she didn't want to save the group? And yeah, Kenny was becoming a new Carver. He destroyed Carver's head, he … moreinsulted Clementine for trying to save Sarita's life, he wanted everybody else to follow his orders and not say a word about it, without making any reasoning (turning on a truck while in a group doesn't let you decide for everybody else).
"He's been through a lot" And has Clementine been in a little girls party all this time? She saw her zombified parents and still managed to pull a grown man's body through a horde of zombies, she had to kill/let alone to die the person that took care of her since the ZA begun, she saw everybody from her first group die one by one, she saw Omid getting killed in front of her, she had to kill/let alone to die a dog she was getting attached to, she had to leave Christa with bandits knowing that if she died it would be kind of her fault for not being able to do anything, … [view original content]
Who blames a kid for his "girlfriend's" death?" Kenny.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Who irrationally makes decisions mainly focusing on AJ and no one else? Kenny.
Kenny knows what a baby needs. He had a son.
Who murders a woman, assuming she killed a baby even though she didn't confirm it? Kenny.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Who uses a kid to convince the group to follow him? Kenny.
Clementine is one of the person, that Kenny knows her better. Kenny familiar more Clementine.
It's Kenny's fault why Luke died, he just blames it on Arvo so he doesn't feel bad.
Why is Arvo back, he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So, Arvo has earned the beating, because he started with the whole shit and because of him all died! Stupid Arvo.
The reason why Mike, Bonnie and Arvo left is valid. Kenny is a psychopath that'd kill everyone in the group sooner or later.
No, Kenny isn't a psychopath. Jane is a psychopath, because Jane wanted to steal medicine from Arvo, and then he came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked! Arvo started with the whole shit and because of him all died!
Who got Walter killed? Kenny.
Who got Alvin killed (determinant)? Kenny.
Who blames a kid for his "girlfriend's" death?" Kenny.
Who… more irrationally makes decisions mainly focusing on AJ and no one else? Kenny.
Who nearly beats an innocent kid to death? Kenny.
Who murders a woman, assuming she killed a baby even though she didn't confirm it? Kenny.
Who uses a kid to convince the group to follow him? Kenny.
It's Kenny's fault why Luke died, he just blames it on Arvo so he doesn't feel bad.
After all, Kenny wants everyone to follow him, like a sheep to a shepard. If you don't side with Kenny, he'll guilt-trip you and make you feel bad as you are not making the "right" decision.
Kenny manipulates Clementine to do thing for him, as he spends his time sitting around beating people up and then makes Clementine do the "Kenny-Is-Sorry-Please-Forgive-Him-He's-Just-Broken" to them.
The reason why Mike, Bonnie and Arvo left is valid. Kenny is a psychopath that'd kill everyone in the group sooner or later.
You know, that Kenny has lost one eye, because Carver has beaten him. That's obvious, that Kenny kills Carver.
Yeah, I agree carver had to die, but it's just sick to beat the shit out of him so much that he destroys his head. Just a psycho would do that.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Everybody's been sad sometimes. Clementine lost a lot of people too, that's no excuse to stop helping your group and telling all of them to fuck off.
Kenny wanted to Wellington, where it is safer. It is best for the group.
Best for the group? According to fucking who? The rest of the group members where giving excelent reasons as why to go back and not keep going to Wellington. Kenny refused to even try to convince them, he just kept shouting and getting mad because they didn't agree with him.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
That doesn't explain why Clementine didn't want to kill her too, and that isn't an excuse so Kenny could kill Jane.
And yeah, Kenny was becoming a new Carver. He destroyed Carver's head
You know, that Kenny has lost one eye, because Carver has beat… moreen him. That's obvious, that Kenny kills Carver.
he insulted Clementine for trying to save Sarita's life
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
he wanted everybody else to follow his orders and not say a word about it, without making any reasoning (turning on a truck while in a group doesn't let you decide for everybody else)
Kenny wanted to Wellington, where it is safer. It is best for the group.
Yet, Clementine didn't feel the need to crush Jane's head when she (also) thought AJ was killed, yet Kenny did feel the need to kill Jane without even reasoning with her yet
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Yeah, I agree carver had to die, but it's just sick to beat the shit out of him so much that he destroys his head. Just a psycho would do that.
Kenny isn't a psycho. Not only Kenny liked to beating Carver. Rebecca liked it too! Clementine could determine whether they want to see or not. That was awesome of Kenny to beating Carver. Carver deserves it!
Everybody's been sad sometimes. Clementine lost a lot of people too, that's no excuse to stop helping your group and telling all of them to fuck off.
Kenny has lost his family. Then also Sarita. That was hard for Kenny, but later Kenny came back in its proper setting. Clementine has not seen her parents died and she has only seen when they were already zombie. Kenny has seen how his family died. Clementine had time to say goodbye to Lee, but Kenny couldn't say goodbye properly to Duck and Katjaa, because Katjaa had been dead immediately and Duck was almost a zombie.
Best for the group? According to fucking who? The rest of the group members where giving excelent reasons as why to go back and not keep going to Wellington. Kenny refused to even try to convince them, he just kept shouting and getting mad because they didn't agree with him.
You couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for everyone's dead. That's why Kenny was angry to Arvo. Arvo said there was a house with food (well ok), but because of Arvo has been dead Rebecca and Luke. Maybe Rebecca would have survived. Kenny couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for the dead. Bonnie and Mike have more Arvo familiar, because it is for Bonnie and Mike no matter what happens with the baby and who cares about the baby. Bonnie and Mike are not interested in Rebecca's death and Bonnie was interested in Luke. Whatever, Kenny and Clementine take good care of AJ in my game.
That doesn't explain why Clementine didn't want to kill her too, and that isn't an excuse so Kenny could kill Jane.
That is a explain why Clementine did want to kill Jane and that is a excuse so Kenny could kill Jane. If Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
You know, that Kenny has lost one eye, because Carver has beaten him. That's obvious, that Kenny kills Carver.
Yeah, I agree carver … morehad to die, but it's just sick to beat the shit out of him so much that he destroys his head. Just a psycho would do that.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Everybody's been sad sometimes. Clementine lost a lot of people too, that's no excuse to stop helping your group and telling all of them to fuck off.
Kenny wanted to Wellington, where it is safer. It is best for the group.
Best for the group? According to fucking who? The rest of the group members where giving excelent reasons as why to go back and not keep going to Wellington. Kenny refused to even try to convince them, he just kept shouting and getting mad because they didn't agree with him.
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The dream was deliberately ambiguously worded so that the player can put his/her own interpretation on it. You can use it to justify either siding with Kenny or with Jane, and to feel better about your choice. Basically, all it says is that you'll face a (possibly) hard choice, and that sometimes choices aren't black or white with an easy right or wrong answer. You just have to do what you think is right, and then live with the consequences.
The dream was deliberately ambiguously worded so that the player can put his/her own interpretation on it. You can use it to justify either … moresiding with Kenny or with Jane, and to feel better about your choice. Basically, all it says is that you'll face a (possibly) hard choice, and that sometimes choices aren't black or white with an easy right or wrong answer. You just have to do what you think is right, and then live with the consequences.
Why is Arvo back, he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So, Arvo has earned the beating, because he started with the whole shit and because of him all died! Stupid Arvo.
Arvo never wanted it to resort to shootings, with the english translated subtitles, He yells at Buricko and the others to put down the guns and not shoot. After the shooting occurred, Arvo was defensless yet Kenny punched him in the back of the head and points a gun at him, later, Kenny will Push Arvo, yell at him, determinantly beat him with a gun, beat him in the face and so on. Let's not forget that Clem shoots his sister.
Kenny knows what a baby needs. He had a son.
I'm not saying that Kenny shouldn't care about the baby, but AJ is ALL he thinks about, he also doesn't act civil and thinks that everyone's ideas are bad.
No, Kenny isn't a psychopath. Jane is a psychopath, because Jane wanted to steal medicine from Arvo, and then he came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked! Arvo started with the whole shit and because of him all died!
Both of them are psycopaths. Anyway, Jane regrets stealing from Arvo in Episode 4.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
But that doesn't give him the right to yell at a 11-year old. Kenny is just using the 'wounded warrior' tactic just to get Clem;s pity.
Take note that Kenny isn't the only one who lost people.
Who blames a kid for his "girlfriend's" death?" Kenny.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Who irrational… morely makes decisions mainly focusing on AJ and no one else? Kenny.
Kenny knows what a baby needs. He had a son.
Who murders a woman, assuming she killed a baby even though she didn't confirm it? Kenny.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Who uses a kid to convince the group to follow him? Kenny.
Clementine is one of the person, that Kenny knows her better. Kenny familiar more Clementine.
It's Kenny's fault why Luke died, he just blames it on Arvo so he doesn't feel bad.
Why is Arvo back, he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So,… [view original content]
Your english is pretty bad so I'm just gonna reply to what I understand.
That was awesome of Kenny to beating Carver
Why is it awesome of Kenny doing it to Carver, but not of Carver doing it to Reggie? Both situations were "justified".
You couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for everyone's dead. That's why Kenny was angry to Arvo. Arvo said there was a house with food (well ok), but because of Arvo has been dead Rebecca and Luke. Maybe Rebecca would have survived. Kenny couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for the dead. Bonnie and Mike have more Arvo familiar, because it is for Bonnie and Mike no matter what happens with the baby and who cares about the baby. Bonnie and Mike are not interested in Rebecca's death and Bonnie was interested in Luke.
I wasn't talking about Arvo, anyways he obviously couldn't be trusted but there wasn't any need of beating the shit out of him when he wanted to help (Yeah, he wanted to help, he lead the group to the house with supplies).
Also, Rebecca died thanks to Kenny, because of his idea of heading to north, where it is colder and more dangerous for a sick pregnant woman. And yeah, Kenny had no idea of what was there, but he refused to listen to the others and made them follow him.
Mike and Bonnie wanting to leave was another clue of Kenny becoming a psycho. Why do you think they wanted to leave when just a few days ago they were all having a good time together?
Kenny and Clementine take good care of AJ in my game.
Your game, nothing to said.
That is a explain why Clementine did want to kill Jane and that is a excuse so Kenny could kill Jane. If Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Try to improve your english, this sentece is pretty hard to understand. And no, it is no excuse, you don't kill somebody just because you think they killed your baby. Just like Hershel didn't try to kill Kenny for (practically) killing his son. Clementine didn't want to kill Jane, and she was in the same situation as Kennny, yet she didn't jump on Jane and started beating her.
Yeah, I agree carver had to die, but it's just sick to beat the shit out of him so much that he destroys his head. Just a psycho would do th… moreat.
Kenny isn't a psycho. Not only Kenny liked to beating Carver. Rebecca liked it too! Clementine could determine whether they want to see or not. That was awesome of Kenny to beating Carver. Carver deserves it!
Everybody's been sad sometimes. Clementine lost a lot of people too, that's no excuse to stop helping your group and telling all of them to fuck off.
Kenny has lost his family. Then also Sarita. That was hard for Kenny, but later Kenny came back in its proper setting. Clementine has not seen her parents died and she has only seen when they were already zombie. Kenny has seen how his family died. Clementine had time to say goodbye to Lee, but Kenny couldn't say goodbye properly to Duck and Katjaa, because Katjaa had been dead immediately and Duck was almost a zombie.
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Try to improve your english..Your english is pretty bad so I'm just gonna reply to what I understand.
My english is very good. Maybe you will not understand it.
Why is it awesome of Kenny doing it to Carver, but not of Carver doing it to Reggie? Both situations were "justified".
Reggie was happy with his one arm and that he was allowed to work for Carver. Oh, thanks Kenny has Reggie got his revenge on Carver.
I wasn't talking about Arvo, anyways he obviously couldn't be trusted but there wasn't any need of beating the shit out of him when he wanted to help (Yeah, he wanted to help, he lead the group to the house with supplies).
Arvo was responsible for dying Luke.
Also, Rebecca died thanks to Kenny, because of his idea of heading to north, where it is colder and more dangerous for a sick pregnant woman.
Rebecca wasn't more pregnant. They were no longer safe to stay there, because Arvo would come so already with his group.
Just like Hershel didn't try to kill Kenny for (practically) killing his son. Clementine didn't want to kill Jane, and she was in the same situation as Kennny, yet she didn't jump on Jane and started beating her.
There was no prove that Jane has killed AJ, but when she couldn't protect only a baby it's ridiculous, because she was otherwise so well to survive.
Your english is pretty bad so I'm just gonna reply to what I understand.
That was awesome of Kenny to beating Carver
Why is it… more awesome of Kenny doing it to Carver, but not of Carver doing it to Reggie? Both situations were "justified".
You couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for everyone's dead. That's why Kenny was angry to Arvo. Arvo said there was a house with food (well ok), but because of Arvo has been dead Rebecca and Luke. Maybe Rebecca would have survived. Kenny couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for the dead. Bonnie and Mike have more Arvo familiar, because it is for Bonnie and Mike no matter what happens with the baby and who cares about the baby. Bonnie and Mike are not interested in Rebecca's death and Bonnie was interested in Luke.
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Stop the fucking "Jane/Kenny" things. Calm people can get angry. Smart people can get dull. No answer to who's right who's wrong. No answer to what we should do with those who get angry or dull.
Lilly used to be the leader. The calm and good one. She can come back to fight in a few minutes after her dad's death. She did a good job, did whatever she could to keep the group safe, to keep the group from the dangerous one. But finally she become the dangerous one.
What to do with Lilly also gets no answer. Should we give her a chance? Should we trust her? Should we punish her by leaving her behind, which nearly means leave her to die? If Lee left her behind, he will say that maybe we should take her. If Lee took her with the group, he will say that maybe we should leave her. And he always makes an opposite response to Clem's answer to his "maybes".
And this : part of growing up is doing what's best for the people you care about... even if sometimes... that means hurting someone else. Lee doesn't say who Clem should care about and who she should hurt. NEVER. He just says that it's complicated. It's not like math.
SO! I think if Lee can come to this forum it's probable for him to say "stop the ridiculous fighting and stop using my Clem's dream for it!"
PS. I know you don't mean to raise "Kenny/Jane" . But whenever we get something which has a fucking little relationship with any of them, it just started.
PSS. I left some words... I think that Lilly did a stupid thing out of anger. And soon, Kenny will be angry like hell and Jane will be stupid as hell. What should you do when you find them so mad/stupid?
that is complete nonsense. when kenny saw i did not had the baby. i had reasonable fear i had to kill him to save myself. considering my cho… moreices left the impression on him i was "corrupted" by jane.
You know after Kenny has killed Jane. Then Kenny says:
Kenny: It was me or her, Clem. She was tryin' to kill me too. If she hadn't lied about Alvin here it wouldn't have went that far.
Clementine: I just... why would she...
Kenny: She was nuts, Clem. A disturbed person that had her own agenda, and was lookin' out for herself.
Kenny: Hey, listen. I didn't want that to happen, either. I tought she'd killed Alvie, Clem. And at any point she could've stopped what was happening by saying he was fine. She wanted a fight.
Kenny: I'd never, ever hurt you. You understand? I was protecting you.
You believe me, right?
Kenny: Just imagining what she did to Alvie... Everything just went black. By the time I got my head straight... it… [view original content]
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Kenny would never accuse Clementine when the baby would be dead.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good.
Arvo has earned the beating. Why is Arvo back, although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So, Arvo has earned the beating, because he started with the whole shit and because of him all died! Stupid Arvo.
LEE CONFIRMED FOR S3!!!!!!
I miss you, Lee!
He went out in a heroic way, saving my favorite character.
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he accused her when serita died.
do you belief everything people tell you?
well he is still a cripple that had to go all the way back to his group without any form of protection.
how the hell do you want to know that? if my little brother just came back, a cripple walking alone unarmed though a post apocalyptic world (probably telling people took our hideout), he could beg me not to rob this people and i would not care.
he did not shot and even tried to resolve the situation.
how could he possible deserve to be beaten to death?
I like your theory on the dream's meaning, but I still think I couldn't pull Kenny any farther.
I expected if there was a dream for it to be something else, but the whole thing was a really cute little scene.
Thank you for your opinion! (:
That's right, it was a really cute little scene.
I thought that Lee says something important, perhaps a sign ... and then while talking to Lee, the camera will be shown on Kenny. I thought it has something to do with Kenny.
Because Lee says that people do things is not always correct. It's not like math. Sometimes there just isn't a right answer, but while Kenny had killed Jane, Kenny was sad because he thought that Jane would have killed the baby. And sad people, that can make people angry sometimes. Maybe, that why Kenny was angry.
But honestly, When Jane is died, that was Jane's fault.
It's Kenny's fault.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
No, but Kenny would never lie like Jane.
Why is he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group.
and what when he gets sad again?
he does not want to know the truth all the time.
for a good reason if it is so...
but how do your want to know that?
all he was doing was translate, since his friend did not seem to know any english except for "i kill you."
"KennySlayHer" That's not English, sorry m8. BTW, I made a vid up cheering kenny on hehe
Who is lying? Jane.
Who plays behind his back? Jane.
Who has two faces? Jane.
Who has left the group already? Jane.
Who wanted a fight? Jane.
Who tries to approach by lying to Clementine? Jane.
Who is sneaky? Jane.
Who is a psychopath? Jane.
Who can't be trusted? Jane.
Who tried to steal medicine from Arvo and brought the entire group in danger, because Arvo thought would be threatened with his group? Jane.
Isn't Kenny's fault!
Everything was Jane's fault!
Who saved Kenny in the fight with the Russians? Jane
If she really wanted him death for her own damn reasons, it would have been easy to let him die before killing the russian, but she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver (to her, she also wasn't sure) before killing/leaving him.
Maybe she wasn't sure. But she wanted to prove that Kenny was becoming a new Carver? No, Kenny isn't Carver. And Jane said after saved the group:
Jane: I didn't know this man... I've never killed someone that didn't wrong me in some way... that didn't deserve it. Tried to pretend he was a walker... but... it's different. I didn't think it would be...
Clem: You saved us.
Jane: Yeah... that's why I did it, but... it felt wrong.
So, what what what? It felt wrong, but you saved the group!?
Just because you didn't know him, because he hasn't threatened you, he doesn't deserve?
This sentence is nonsense of Jane. I don't think Jane wanted to save the group.
Who got Walter killed? Kenny.
Who got Alvin killed (determinant)? Kenny.
Who blames a kid for his "girlfriend's" death?" Kenny.
Who irrationally makes decisions mainly focusing on AJ and no one else? Kenny.
Who nearly beats an innocent kid to death? Kenny.
Who murders a woman, assuming she killed a baby even though she didn't confirm it? Kenny.
Who uses a kid to convince the group to follow him? Kenny.
It's Kenny's fault why Luke died, he just blames it on Arvo so he doesn't feel bad.
After all, Kenny wants everyone to follow him, like a sheep to a shepard. If you don't side with Kenny, he'll guilt-trip you and make you feel bad as you are not making the "right" decision.
Kenny manipulates Clementine to do thing for him, as he spends his time sitting around beating people up and then makes Clementine do the "Kenny-Is-Sorry-Please-Forgive-Him-He's-Just-Broken" to them.
The reason why Mike, Bonnie and Arvo left is valid. Kenny is a psychopath that'd kill everyone in the group sooner or later.
So what did Jane want to do if she didn't want to save the group? And yeah, Kenny was becoming a new Carver. He destroyed Carver's head, he insulted Clementine for trying to save Sarita's life, he wanted everybody else to follow his orders and not say a word about it, without making any reasoning (turning on a truck while in a group doesn't let you decide for everybody else).
"He's been through a lot" And has Clementine been in a little girls party all this time? She saw her zombified parents and still managed to pull a grown man's body through a horde of zombies, she had to kill/let alone to die the person that took care of her since the ZA begun, she saw everybody from her first group die one by one, she saw Omid getting killed in front of her, she had to kill/let alone to die a dog she was getting attached to, she had to leave Christa with bandits knowing that if she died it would be kind of her fault for not being able to do anything, she saw everyone from her second group get killed one by one, she's been in a lot of situations where a zombie almost kills her thanks to lazy adults, she was kidnapped by a stranger...
And a lot of other shit, and you can also sum up to that that she's just a little girl that knew nothing of life before the ZA, whereas Kenny is a grown man from the country side, where it's easier for this kind of situations to happen, we could say he's a bit more used to "hard stuff".
Yet, Clementine didn't feel the need to crush Jane's head when she (also) thought AJ was killed, yet Kenny did feel the need to kill Jane without even reasoning with her yet.
You know, that Kenny has lost one eye, because Carver has beaten him. That's obvious, that Kenny kills Carver.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Kenny wanted to Wellington, where it is safer. It is best for the group.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Kenny was sad, later he came back in its proper setting.
Kenny knows what a baby needs. He had a son.
Kenny has said, if Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't say the baby is fine, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
Clementine is one of the person, that Kenny knows her better. Kenny familiar more Clementine.
Why is Arvo back, he then came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked? Although I gave him his medicine back? Arvo wanted to rob the whole group! So, Arvo has earned the beating, because he started with the whole shit and because of him all died! Stupid Arvo.
No, Kenny isn't a psychopath. Jane is a psychopath, because Jane wanted to steal medicine from Arvo, and then he came with his whole group and then also clementine and the others attacked! Arvo started with the whole shit and because of him all died!
Yeah, I agree carver had to die, but it's just sick to beat the shit out of him so much that he destroys his head. Just a psycho would do that.
Everybody's been sad sometimes. Clementine lost a lot of people too, that's no excuse to stop helping your group and telling all of them to fuck off.
Best for the group? According to fucking who? The rest of the group members where giving excelent reasons as why to go back and not keep going to Wellington. Kenny refused to even try to convince them, he just kept shouting and getting mad because they didn't agree with him.
That doesn't explain why Clementine didn't want to kill her too, and that isn't an excuse so Kenny could kill Jane.
Kenny isn't a psycho. Not only Kenny liked to beating Carver. Rebecca liked it too! Clementine could determine whether they want to see or not. That was awesome of Kenny to beating Carver. Carver deserves it!
Kenny has lost his family. Then also Sarita. That was hard for Kenny, but later Kenny came back in its proper setting. Clementine has not seen her parents died and she has only seen when they were already zombie. Kenny has seen how his family died. Clementine had time to say goodbye to Lee, but Kenny couldn't say goodbye properly to Duck and Katjaa, because Katjaa had been dead immediately and Duck was almost a zombie.
You couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for everyone's dead. That's why Kenny was angry to Arvo. Arvo said there was a house with food (well ok), but because of Arvo has been dead Rebecca and Luke. Maybe Rebecca would have survived. Kenny couldn't trust Arvo, because Arvo was responsible for the dead. Bonnie and Mike have more Arvo familiar, because it is for Bonnie and Mike no matter what happens with the baby and who cares about the baby. Bonnie and Mike are not interested in Rebecca's death and Bonnie was interested in Luke. Whatever, Kenny and Clementine take good care of AJ in my game.
That is a explain why Clementine did want to kill Jane and that is a excuse so Kenny could kill Jane. If Jane had just said the baby is fine, would be all good. But Jane didn't, so Jane is fault, when she is died.
The dream was deliberately ambiguously worded so that the player can put his/her own interpretation on it. You can use it to justify either siding with Kenny or with Jane, and to feel better about your choice. Basically, all it says is that you'll face a (possibly) hard choice, and that sometimes choices aren't black or white with an easy right or wrong answer. You just have to do what you think is right, and then live with the consequences.
Thank you for your opinion! (:
Arvo never wanted it to resort to shootings, with the english translated subtitles, He yells at Buricko and the others to put down the guns and not shoot. After the shooting occurred, Arvo was defensless yet Kenny punched him in the back of the head and points a gun at him, later, Kenny will Push Arvo, yell at him, determinantly beat him with a gun, beat him in the face and so on. Let's not forget that Clem shoots his sister.
I'm not saying that Kenny shouldn't care about the baby, but AJ is ALL he thinks about, he also doesn't act civil and thinks that everyone's ideas are bad.
Both of them are psycopaths. Anyway, Jane regrets stealing from Arvo in Episode 4.
But that doesn't give him the right to yell at a 11-year old. Kenny is just using the 'wounded warrior' tactic just to get Clem;s pity.
Take note that Kenny isn't the only one who lost people.
Your english is pretty bad so I'm just gonna reply to what I understand.
Why is it awesome of Kenny doing it to Carver, but not of Carver doing it to Reggie? Both situations were "justified".
I wasn't talking about Arvo, anyways he obviously couldn't be trusted but there wasn't any need of beating the shit out of him when he wanted to help (Yeah, he wanted to help, he lead the group to the house with supplies).
Also, Rebecca died thanks to Kenny, because of his idea of heading to north, where it is colder and more dangerous for a sick pregnant woman. And yeah, Kenny had no idea of what was there, but he refused to listen to the others and made them follow him.
Mike and Bonnie wanting to leave was another clue of Kenny becoming a psycho. Why do you think they wanted to leave when just a few days ago they were all having a good time together?
Your game, nothing to said.
Try to improve your english, this sentece is pretty hard to understand. And no, it is no excuse, you don't kill somebody just because you think they killed your baby. Just like Hershel didn't try to kill Kenny for (practically) killing his son. Clementine didn't want to kill Jane, and she was in the same situation as Kennny, yet she didn't jump on Jane and started beating her.
My english is very good. Maybe you will not understand it.
Why is it awesome of Kenny doing it to Carver, but not of Carver doing it to Reggie? Both situations were "justified".
Reggie was happy with his one arm and that he was allowed to work for Carver. Oh, thanks Kenny has Reggie got his revenge on Carver.
Arvo was responsible for dying Luke.
Rebecca wasn't more pregnant. They were no longer safe to stay there, because Arvo would come so already with his group.
There was no prove that Jane has killed AJ, but when she couldn't protect only a baby it's ridiculous, because she was otherwise so well to survive.
I think the meaning of the dream now is :
Stop the fucking "Jane/Kenny" things. Calm people can get angry. Smart people can get dull. No answer to who's right who's wrong. No answer to what we should do with those who get angry or dull.
Lilly used to be the leader. The calm and good one. She can come back to fight in a few minutes after her dad's death. She did a good job, did whatever she could to keep the group safe, to keep the group from the dangerous one. But finally she become the dangerous one.
What to do with Lilly also gets no answer. Should we give her a chance? Should we trust her? Should we punish her by leaving her behind, which nearly means leave her to die? If Lee left her behind, he will say that maybe we should take her. If Lee took her with the group, he will say that maybe we should leave her. And he always makes an opposite response to Clem's answer to his "maybes".
And this : part of growing up is doing what's best for the people you care about... even if sometimes... that means hurting someone else. Lee doesn't say who Clem should care about and who she should hurt. NEVER. He just says that it's complicated. It's not like math.
SO! I think if Lee can come to this forum it's probable for him to say "stop the ridiculous fighting and stop using my Clem's dream for it!"
PS. I know you don't mean to raise "Kenny/Jane" . But whenever we get something which has a fucking little relationship with any of them, it just started.
PSS. I left some words... I think that Lilly did a stupid thing out of anger. And soon, Kenny will be angry like hell and Jane will be stupid as hell. What should you do when you find them so mad/stupid?
Just trying to fix a small detail. Natasha wasn't bitten,
Whatever. After all, she was a zombie.