why would kenny say he'd never hurt clem, when he did?
first time kenny hurt her is at the st. john's farm when he killed larry. the second time was when he blamed her for sarita's death and hurt her feelings. the third time was when he was punching arvo and he shoved her out the way when you try to help. and the last time was when him and jane was fighting he shoved her back.
kenny contradicted himself by saying he never hurt her.
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a part of the story and purpose is to insinuate a personality with kenny. kenny is known to go off and is supposed to be that way. telltale wanted us to think of him a prone to anger. but think about it. he's lost more than anyone else. if lee too
did you seriously just say that? "facepalm"
but seriously that larry thing only scared her it didn't hurt her, with sarita's death he hurt her feelings which is not what he meant, with arvo he didn't purposefully hit her if anything its clem's fault that she got hurt there she ran into him and there are some people (myself included) who didn't get hit by him there so yea and third he was mad and didn't want clem to get involved in the fight and jane does that too so take that one out
when kenny says he would never hurt clem he means physically on purpose
Well technically it depends on the players choice so if clem gets hurt its the player to blame for the choice
You can reduce the harm done to clementine as Lee, and Kenny will actually treat Clem differently in Season 2 if you were his bestie in season 1. He says that Lee and Clementine are the only family he has left at the end of episode 4 in season 1.
Getting your feelings hurt and being hurt physically are two totally different things. We hurt each others feelings all the time, whether it's intentional or not. Kenny was referring to never physically harming her with intent.
Agreed.
Well i was his bestie most of the time not when killing larry though because i felt bad for lilly
fair enough but that still does not change the fact that kenny didn't do it on purpose
no true dat. nothing can replace him losing his family tho. Think about Katjaa for a minute. Kat was so full of enthusiasm and hope in episodes 1 and 2. kenny was well aware of that. however, in episode 3, when katjaa learns of what kenny did to larry in the locker room at the st. johns, her personality changes. She also becomes very depressed once she learns there is no hope for duck being cured.
yeah but helping kill larry is the biggest one. lilly treats u like crap but its not that bad cuz she leaves in episode 3 anyways. Adios! Kenny even refers to it later on. Kenny wants to share remorse with lee because he doesnt want to feel like he made the wrong choice even though he didnt. he saved clem in that scenario.
Well pretty much after i did that i tried to make kenny feel better so its all good
Kenny didn't hurt my Clem in season 2. He was angry at everyone, not just me, and he apologized afterward anyway. He didn't push me either because I didn't help arvo, that shitbird.
So it all depends on the player choices, some just decided to kill the zombie instead of cutting Saritas arm off, including me.
Clem knows Kenny enough to put aside his attitude for something else. He can say nothing that will ultimately affect her to put a scarred impact, and when he already said he never meant to hurt her, (she already knew) but it just gives away that completely knows now to not be affected by his inputs when SHTF
Also, if you killed ben in crawford, he is actually thankful towards lee and gets even closer to him. when this topic came up in the conversation between clem and kenny in season 2, kenny tries to convince clem that the choice lee made to drop ben was a good one.
again regarding the choices the player made, if lee didnt criticize ben for the crap he's done, clem agrees with kenny. lee was a big part of clems life, and losing him caused a level of maturity to rise in clem.
As it's been said by others, there is a monumental difference between hurting someone's feelings, and hurting someone physically. Just because Kenny has said a few thoughtless things to Clem, doesn't mean he's capable of hitting her. Kenny would never hit a child, and has never shown any indication of doing so. And when he does say something hurtful, it's always when he's losing/watching someone die, so it's pretty understandable why he'd lash out at his last closest loved one. He also apologizes later for scaring her, or hurting her feelings, so it's not as though he didn't know he was in the wrong.
When you tell somebody that you'd never hurt them it's not just a promise to not hurt them physically. A lot of the things he said weren't just "thoughtless" they were downright cruel. Him knowing he's in the wrong and apologizing for it doesn't exactly absolve him.
It's normal for people to take out their frustrations on their family, we always regret it afterwards, and say we'll never do it again, but we always do. That's just how humans are. The benefit that comes with venting on family members is that they almost always know you don't mean it genuinely and that you're just upset. That is how I saw it with Kenny, the things he said were very harsh and uncalled for, but I understood that he was in a very vulnerable/painful place. He was going through the process of watching someone he loved die, and not being able to prevent it once again. Him apologizing doesn't excuse nor erase the things he said. But I believe it brought solace to both of them, for Kenny to apologize, which lead them to discuss what happened/the people they've lost.
I honestly don't know if whether he acts worse when Lee is gone (if there were good buddies) or is satisfied when he is (if he hated his guts). But Clem is family to him and can be real close if Lee and Kenny were best friends.
I think despite his relationship with Lee, whether they were Bro's or strained friends, he cares a great deal for Clem, and would do anything to keep her safe.
Because as we have seen through just about the whole game series when Kenny gets angry hes like a madman and thats why I would not let my Clem go with Kenny! He lost control with almost everybody who he was with and he became dangerous. Couldn't trust him and I know that if anything would happen with AJ he would blame Clem and lose control!
None of those actions were intentional to hurt Clementine though.
But Kenny really compensated for his prior actions at Wellington (if you didn't shoot him). He throws himself out and requests that the kids be taken for safety and that they won't survive out in the world. He even states that he was aware of his insane actions, and in the end, proved to be a caring man for AJ and Clementine.
This point exactly! ^
I don't know about you but I don't vent my frustrations on children. I've never once berated my little brother or sister regardless of how much stress I've been under and my anger issues make Kenny seem cool headed.
Well, that's you then. Personally, I've been on the receiving end of anger plenty of times by my older family members due to extreme stress and/or loss, and I've never held it against them. I understand they just need to get it out, and then they'll feel somewhat better at least. Clem is the only family Kenny had left, I'm not saying it's ok or acceptable for him to say those things to her, but it's completely understandable, and I don't think it's a horrible, unforgivable, condemning act. It happens, and he apologized. For me, that's all I needed.
Kenny vented at the first person whom spoke to him, it wasn't like he intentionally sought out Clementine to yell at her and berate her. (And which I'll remind everyone, no one else in the group even had the balls to talk to him. No, they send the 11 year old girl to talk to man whom just lost his lover.) When something like that happens to you, which I pray it never does, you can't say for sure how you'll react. Especially if you're that emotionally drained and scarred. Am I excusing his anger? No. But I understand why he did what he did and I choose to forgive him for it.
Exactly, not everyone will choose to forgive someone for something like what Kenny did and what our own family members have put us through, but it's our choice to forgive and move on.