Nick and Kenny. I'm impulsive, easily angered, and prone to bouts of misery, regret and self-pity. At the same time, I'm sensitive to the point that violence and cruelty always disturb me, and I have a soft spot for children. I also like foreign ladies!
Some kind of TV show Rick. I used to be super nice, really trying to be down to earth as much as I could and respect the rules. I made bad mistakes. Life experiences made me evolve into someone cold and sometimes ruthless. I've become a totally different person than I used to be a few years ago, those who knew me back then wouldn't recognize me - personnality wise and physically.
I do like being a little on my own, I'd like to go hunting (impossible to do so without a car where I live, I live in an urban "jungle", I never see the end of it) and I like being in the woods and exploring stuff around on my own or with someone close. So I'm a little Daryl-ish sometimes.
I can also be a really straight forward / jerk but also very loyal and always trying to do my best to protect those I love, a little "excited" in my movements and sometimes a little brutal with stuff around me like Shane was in the TV show.
I have a lot of Lee in me aswell but then again he shares similarities with Rick from the TV show, except that he adapts faster than Rick but is more subbtle than Shane. I had a "Clementine" before and I know how far I'd go to protect her and of course I'd do my best to make sure my Clementine can also protect herself and I would definitely explain things to her.
I can be very complex but then again I'm myself so I can't exactly be like one single character.
Oh and I can also be like Kenny - I like foreign women. I used to live in another country with a foreign lady.
Well they say your favourite character is the person your most like so in that case my favourite character is Luke and he actually is the character I would say I'm the most like (not including the fact that I'm a girl haha) I would say I'm most like him because I found myself siding with and agreeing with him the most. I didn't realise I was more like him until episode 3 with Carver, I hated that guy but I didn't think we should kill him out of cold blood, I wouldn't want my Clementine to be someone that seeks revenge and if we stayed and watched we were being just as bad as Carver; wanting to see someone suffer for out own benefit, that's why Carver is happy if Clementine watches because he knew that just meant she was going against everything she said she would never be i'm not like you so yeah, Luke is who I am most like because we both are against murder and killing for revenge, and not to sound vain or anything but I would say I try to be nice to people just like he is nice to othersC:
Well they say your favourite character is the person your most like so in that case my favourite character is Luke and he actually is the ch… morearacter I would say I'm the most like (not including the fact that I'm a girl haha) I would say I'm most like him because I found myself siding with and agreeing with him the most. I didn't realise I was more like him until episode 3 with Carver, I hated that guy but I didn't think we should kill him out of cold blood, I wouldn't want my Clementine to be someone that seeks revenge and if we stayed and watched we were being just as bad as Carver; wanting to see someone suffer for out own benefit, that's why Carver is happy if Clementine watches because he knew that just meant she was going against everything she said she would never be i'm not like you so yeah, Luke is who I am most like because we both are against murder and killing for revenge, and not to sound vain or anything but I would say I try to be nice to people just like he is nice to othersC:
Yeah but watching Carver get killed just makes us as bad as him, we are watching him suffer for our own benefit because we want to see it happen because we hate him so much, and that's something Carver would do and did do to Alvin and Reggie. I know he's a bad man and I hate him too but watching him get brutally murdered would just mean we are like Carver in a way and that's why he was so happy we did it. Well in my opinion anyway...
No it doesn't.
We are getting revenge for what he did to them and potentially others we don't know about.
Eye for an eye , he started it. That makes him the bad one , not us.
Yeah but watching Carver get killed just makes us as bad as him, we are watching him suffer for our own benefit because we want to see it ha… moreppen because we hate him so much, and that's something Carver would do and did do to Alvin and Reggie. I know he's a bad man and I hate him too but watching him get brutally murdered would just mean we are like Carver in a way and that's why he was so happy we did it. Well in my opinion anyway...
Anyway hey it's you;o
Yes getting revenge, so we are killing him for revenge which is like killing someone in cold blood. I know Carver started it and I hate what he did I'm glad that Kenny shot him in the legs, but he could have just left him like that and he would have died either way, we didn't have to cave his face in to be safe and free of him he would have died either way:/
And I know we aren't the bad guys but we are kind of like him if we watch because we are watching someone get killed for out own pleasure which is something he would do, but I still don't think we are the bad guys...
Hey , it's you too :P
Carver get killed just makes us as bad as him
No it doesn't.
We are getting revenge for what he did to … morethem and potentially others we don't know about.
Eye for an eye , he started it. That makes him the bad one , not us.
I know but there is one flaw in your argument , revenge is nothing like killing someone in cold blood.
For example.
If a man's wife gets murdered and the man goes and kills the guy who murdered her , the man is getting revenge but does that make it like if he was killing the murderer in cold blood?
Yes getting revenge, so we are killing him for revenge which is like killing someone in cold blood. I know Carver started it and I hate what… more he did I'm glad that Kenny shot him in the legs, but he could have just left him like that and he would have died either way, we didn't have to cave his face in to be safe and free of him he would have died either way:/
And I know we aren't the bad guys but we are kind of like him if we watch because we are watching someone get killed for out own pleasure which is something he would do, but I still don't think we are the bad guys...
I have no clue. Having a look at some alignment charts however, I can safely place myself somewhere in the "Neutral" section with most of everybody else agreeing, so maybe a character that falls into that category as well?
I would say I'm a mix of Luke and Jane. Luke because I'm quite kind but I bottle things up, and Jane because I had similar views as her and I make plans that normally fail . (That last part was a joke :P)
What I mean is that it is purely for revenge purposes, so you are lacking emotion because you are detirmined on killing the person because you want revenge. I would classify it as cold blood, not in the way that it's 'cruel' but in the way he lacked emotion for doing it, and did it purely for revenge. Everyone has different opinions so I know that I may think that watching carver makes us like him, not that we are worse than him or 'bad guys' like him but we are like him in the sence we do things that could be seen as 'in humane' like murdering someone (even if they are bad) and take pleasure in it because we know they are suffering.
I know but there is one flaw in your argument , revenge is nothing like killing someone in cold blood.
For example.
If a man's wife gets m… moreurdered and the man goes and kills the guy who murdered her , the man is getting revenge but does that make it like if he was killing the murderer in cold blood?
I have no clue. Having a look at some alignment charts however, I can safely place myself somewhere in the "Neutral" section with most of everybody else agreeing, so maybe a character that falls into that category as well?
Not all acts of killing are equal. There is a difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder, between a quick execution and a drawn-out torturous demise.
And in the case of someone as irredeemable, dangerous and powerful as Carver? It's pragmatic and necessary to kill him. Hell, I don't even mind if his demise is painful so long as he no longer exists. Castrate him just as Jane did to Troy and turn him into zombie bait! The reason why I had Clementine endorse his death, despite Kenny's impracticality (he wasted time wailing on a corpse rather than actually making Carver's death painful enough - Sarah's demise was FAR more humiliating than his), was because it was the closest the game would allow me to killing him personally.
Wow. I sound nasty there. But there is a reason why killing Carver was necessary and torturing Arvo wasn't.
I know but there is one flaw in your argument , revenge is nothing like killing someone in cold blood.
For example.
If a man's wife gets m… moreurdered and the man goes and kills the guy who murdered her , the man is getting revenge but does that make it like if he was killing the murderer in cold blood?
Because reasons.
Lol seriously though
I haven't seen you much around the forums but when you have been you weren't really taking a side 'nor were you at someones throught. Idk
What I mean is that it is purely for revenge purposes, so you are lacking emotion because you are detirmined on killing the person because y… moreou want revenge. I would classify it as cold blood, not in the way that it's 'cruel' but in the way he lacked emotion for doing it, and did it purely for revenge. Everyone has different opinions so I know that I may think that watching carver makes us like him, not that we are worse than him or 'bad guys' like him but we are like him in the sence we do things that could be seen as 'in humane' like murdering someone (even if they are bad) and take pleasure in it because we know they are suffering.
I agree it was necessary to kill Carver because it was dangerous to keep him alive, I agree with Kennys method on shooting Carver in the legs because that would end up killing him as walkers were comming in and he wouldn't be able to move also he would loose a lot of blood, I just don't agree with watching Kenny bash his face in, I know the majority of people did it and that's fine everyone has their own views on things but in my opinion I didn't want to watch because I thought it would make us like him, to watch someone get their face bashed in. I never said he wasn't a bad guy because I know he is and I don't have sympathy for him whatsoever I just don't want my Clementine to watch him get his face bashed in.
Not all acts of killing are equal. There is a difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder, between a quick execution and a draw… moren-out torturous demise.
And in the case of someone as irredeemable, dangerous and powerful as Carver? It's pragmatic and necessary to kill him. Hell, I don't even mind if his demise is painful so long as he no longer exists. Castrate him just as Jane did to Troy and turn him into zombie bait! The reason why I had Clementine endorse his death, despite Kenny's impracticality (he wasted time wailing on a corpse rather than actually making Carver's death painful enough - Sarah's demise was FAR more humiliating than his), was because it was the closest the game would allow me to killing him personally.
Wow. I sound nasty there. But there is a reason why killing Carver was necessary and torturing Arvo wasn't.
Not all acts of killing are equal. There is a difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder, between a quick execution and a draw… moren-out torturous demise.
And in the case of someone as irredeemable, dangerous and powerful as Carver? It's pragmatic and necessary to kill him. Hell, I don't even mind if his demise is painful so long as he no longer exists. Castrate him just as Jane did to Troy and turn him into zombie bait! The reason why I had Clementine endorse his death, despite Kenny's impracticality (he wasted time wailing on a corpse rather than actually making Carver's death painful enough - Sarah's demise was FAR more humiliating than his), was because it was the closest the game would allow me to killing him personally.
Wow. I sound nasty there. But there is a reason why killing Carver was necessary and torturing Arvo wasn't.
I agree it was necessary to kill Carver because it was dangerous to keep him alive, I agree with Kennys method on shooting Carver in the leg… mores because that would end up killing him as walkers were comming in and he wouldn't be able to move also he would loose a lot of blood, I just don't agree with watching Kenny bash his face in, I know the majority of people did it and that's fine everyone has their own views on things but in my opinion I didn't want to watch because I thought it would make us like him, to watch someone get their face bashed in. I never said he wasn't a bad guy because I know he is and I don't have sympathy for him whatsoever I just don't want my Clementine to watch him get his face bashed in.
Haha yeah true:p this is my first debate on here and I'm not very argumentative or stubborn I kept on thinking you know what I'll jut say 'fine your right can we stop arguing' just to stop but my sisters are always saying I have to be stubborn or else people will walk all over me, I did okay an I didn't back down yay! Well except now we have come to an agreement I would like some cookies too and milkC:
Sure. That's why the game allows us to have different interpretations of characters.
I simply think it's perfectly possible to be morally dissonant, because in some way we are all guilty of this. It makes perfect sense in my mind for Clementine to have sympathy with vulnerable people like Sarah and Arvo, and to lack such sympathy for people like Carver, Victor and Troy.
I agree it was necessary to kill Carver because it was dangerous to keep him alive, I agree with Kennys method on shooting Carver in the leg… mores because that would end up killing him as walkers were comming in and he wouldn't be able to move also he would loose a lot of blood, I just don't agree with watching Kenny bash his face in, I know the majority of people did it and that's fine everyone has their own views on things but in my opinion I didn't want to watch because I thought it would make us like him, to watch someone get their face bashed in. I never said he wasn't a bad guy because I know he is and I don't have sympathy for him whatsoever I just don't want my Clementine to watch him get his face bashed in.
Because reasons.
Lol seriously though
I haven't seen you much around the forums but when you have been you weren't really taking a side 'nor were you at someones throught. Idk
Haha yeah true:p this is my first debate on here and I'm not very argumentative or stubborn I kept on thinking you know what I'll jut say 'f… moreine your right can we stop arguing' just to stop but my sisters are always saying I have to be stubborn or else people will walk all over me, I did okay an I didn't back down yay! Well except now we have come to an agreement I would like some cookies too and milkC:
Haha yeah true:p this is my first debate on here and I'm not very argumentative or stubborn I kept on thinking you know what I'll jut say 'f… moreine your right can we stop arguing' just to stop but my sisters are always saying I have to be stubborn or else people will walk all over me, I did okay an I didn't back down yay! Well except now we have come to an agreement I would like some cookies too and milkC:
Yeah, they do, I never had sympathy for Carver or Troy I had sympathy for Sarah and Arvo to start with but not after shooting Clementine so much. I mean it's sad and I have sympathy for him loosing his group and being 'tortured' by Kenny and when he got beaten up but after shooting Clementine even when she didn't do anything wrong and stuck up for him, I just felt most of that sympathy fly out the window!
Sure. That's why the game allows us to have different interpretations of characters.
I simply think it's perfectly possible to be morall… morey dissonant, because in some way we are all guilty of this. It makes perfect sense in my mind for Clementine to have sympathy with vulnerable people like Sarah and Arvo, and to lack such sympathy for people like Carver, Victor and Troy.
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Kenny with a little bit of Nick.
Nick and Kenny. I'm impulsive, easily angered, and prone to bouts of misery, regret and self-pity. At the same time, I'm sensitive to the point that violence and cruelty always disturb me, and I have a soft spot for children. I also like foreign ladies!
Christa. I'm pretty serious and introvertic person, but I'm also caring.
Some kind of TV show Rick. I used to be super nice, really trying to be down to earth as much as I could and respect the rules. I made bad mistakes. Life experiences made me evolve into someone cold and sometimes ruthless. I've become a totally different person than I used to be a few years ago, those who knew me back then wouldn't recognize me - personnality wise and physically.
I do like being a little on my own, I'd like to go hunting (impossible to do so without a car where I live, I live in an urban "jungle", I never see the end of it) and I like being in the woods and exploring stuff around on my own or with someone close. So I'm a little Daryl-ish sometimes.
I can also be a really straight forward / jerk but also very loyal and always trying to do my best to protect those I love, a little "excited" in my movements and sometimes a little brutal with stuff around me like Shane was in the TV show.
I have a lot of Lee in me aswell but then again he shares similarities with Rick from the TV show, except that he adapts faster than Rick but is more subbtle than Shane. I had a "Clementine" before and I know how far I'd go to protect her and of course I'd do my best to make sure my Clementine can also protect herself and I would definitely explain things to her.
I can be very complex but then again I'm myself so I can't exactly be like one single character.
Oh and I can also be like Kenny - I like foreign women. I used to live in another country with a foreign lady.
Same here, I love Christa and can relate to her personality quite a lot.
maybe a mix of Wyatt and Luke, but Ben when i was younger (his age)
Omid, because I could still make jokes in every bad situation XD
Well they say your favourite character is the person your most like so in that case my favourite character is Luke and he actually is the character I would say I'm the most like (not including the fact that I'm a girl haha) I would say I'm most like him because I found myself siding with and agreeing with him the most. I didn't realise I was more like him until episode 3 with Carver, I hated that guy but I didn't think we should kill him out of cold blood, I wouldn't want my Clementine to be someone that seeks revenge and if we stayed and watched we were being just as bad as Carver; wanting to see someone suffer for out own benefit, that's why Carver is happy if Clementine watches because he knew that just meant she was going against everything she said she would never be i'm not like you so yeah, Luke is who I am most like because we both are against murder and killing for revenge, and not to sound vain or anything but I would say I try to be nice to people just like he is nice to othersC:
You forget what reggie and determinant alvin went through?
Ben and doug , but more ben
Yeah but watching Carver get killed just makes us as bad as him, we are watching him suffer for our own benefit because we want to see it happen because we hate him so much, and that's something Carver would do and did do to Alvin and Reggie. I know he's a bad man and I hate him too but watching him get brutally murdered would just mean we are like Carver in a way and that's why he was so happy we did it. Well in my opinion anyway...
Anyway hey it's you;o
Hey , it's you too :P
No it doesn't.
We are getting revenge for what he did to them and potentially others we don't know about.
Eye for an eye , he started it. That makes him the bad one , not us.
Yes getting revenge, so we are killing him for revenge which is like killing someone in cold blood. I know Carver started it and I hate what he did I'm glad that Kenny shot him in the legs, but he could have just left him like that and he would have died either way, we didn't have to cave his face in to be safe and free of him he would have died either way:/
And I know we aren't the bad guys but we are kind of like him if we watch because we are watching someone get killed for out own pleasure which is something he would do, but I still don't think we are the bad guys...
I don't know, I don't think my personality matches with anyone from the game.
I know but there is one flaw in your argument , revenge is nothing like killing someone in cold blood.
For example.
If a man's wife gets murdered and the man goes and kills the guy who murdered her , the man is getting revenge but does that make it like if he was killing the murderer in cold blood?
I have no clue. Having a look at some alignment charts however, I can safely place myself somewhere in the "Neutral" section with most of everybody else agreeing, so maybe a character that falls into that category as well?
I would say I'm a mix of Luke and Jane. Luke because I'm quite kind but I bottle things up, and Jane because I had similar views as her and I make plans that normally fail
. (That last part was a joke :P)
I think I'm Jane nd Kenny, a loner with anger issues.
How about mark?
What I mean is that it is purely for revenge purposes, so you are lacking emotion because you are detirmined on killing the person because you want revenge. I would classify it as cold blood, not in the way that it's 'cruel' but in the way he lacked emotion for doing it, and did it purely for revenge. Everyone has different opinions so I know that I may think that watching carver makes us like him, not that we are worse than him or 'bad guys' like him but we are like him in the sence we do things that could be seen as 'in humane' like murdering someone (even if they are bad) and take pleasure in it because we know they are suffering.
I'm confused, why mark?
mark?
Not all acts of killing are equal. There is a difference between manslaughter and premeditated murder, between a quick execution and a drawn-out torturous demise.
And in the case of someone as irredeemable, dangerous and powerful as Carver? It's pragmatic and necessary to kill him. Hell, I don't even mind if his demise is painful so long as he no longer exists. Castrate him just as Jane did to Troy and turn him into zombie bait! The reason why I had Clementine endorse his death, despite Kenny's impracticality (he wasted time wailing on a corpse rather than actually making Carver's death painful enough - Sarah's demise was FAR more humiliating than his), was because it was the closest the game would allow me to killing him personally.
Wow. I sound nasty there. But there is a reason why killing Carver was necessary and torturing Arvo wasn't.
Because reasons.
Lol seriously though
I haven't seen you much around the forums but when you have been you weren't really taking a side 'nor were you at someones throught. Idk
Now we have boiled down to opinion I guess.
Technically we're both right.
Now to reward myself
@fallandir I request internet cookies
I agree it was necessary to kill Carver because it was dangerous to keep him alive, I agree with Kennys method on shooting Carver in the legs because that would end up killing him as walkers were comming in and he wouldn't be able to move also he would loose a lot of blood, I just don't agree with watching Kenny bash his face in, I know the majority of people did it and that's fine everyone has their own views on things but in my opinion I didn't want to watch because I thought it would make us like him, to watch someone get their face bashed in. I never said he wasn't a bad guy because I know he is and I don't have sympathy for him whatsoever I just don't want my Clementine to watch him get his face bashed in.
To be honest , to me it seemed like carver was dead after the first crowbar hit.
That's fair enough I guess.
Haha yeah true:p this is my first debate on here and I'm not very argumentative or stubborn I kept on thinking you know what I'll jut say 'fine your right can we stop arguing' just to stop but my sisters are always saying I have to be stubborn or else people will walk all over me, I did okay an I didn't back down yay! Well except now we have come to an agreement
I would like some cookies too and milkC:
Sure. That's why the game allows us to have different interpretations of characters.
I simply think it's perfectly possible to be morally dissonant, because in some way we are all guilty of this. It makes perfect sense in my mind for Clementine to have sympathy with vulnerable people like Sarah and Arvo, and to lack such sympathy for people like Carver, Victor and Troy.
Yup, and I you think watching Carver get killed was fine then so be it, I have no problem with that because everyone has different views:)
xD
but no, my personality has almost nothing to do with his.
Don't let @lee4life eat them all!
I don't know how you do it , but you do. You do.
Good man!
You must request your fully deserved cookies and milk from fallandir
Hmmmmmmmmm
You win this time.
backs off into corner with cookies and milk
Gimme the cookies ;-;
OM NOM NOM
Wait? You guys wanted some?
/burp/
I... err...
sorry...
Yeah, they do, I never had sympathy for Carver or Troy I had sympathy for Sarah and Arvo to start with but not after shooting Clementine so much. I mean it's sad and I have sympathy for him loosing his group and being 'tortured' by Kenny and when he got beaten up but after shooting Clementine even when she didn't do anything wrong and stuck up for him, I just felt most of that sympathy fly out the window!