I didn't say from the start but at the end of ep 5 she announced to clem to stay out of it (killing AJ, a lie)
How can you play games a lot… more if you are here all the time?
Its not false info just like you ranting on about the endings while you only have seen 1 ending....
My sister when pregnant called the cops on me telling them that i stole 6,000 dollars from her safe that she leaves open because she doesn't want to put in new Batteries every time she wants to use it. Turns out after giving them my statement i get a call from my sister that she found it days later in a sock drawer.
Luke did not know what to do with Clementine when he found the bite, Pete was the one who convinced him to help.
I refuse to let someone else get me killed. Sure Lee and Luke helped others but where are they now? Dead!
I did not say Lee was great.
He should not have helped find Clementine who was just another mouth to feed anyway. His "search" for Clementine got him killed.
It will take years for AJ to be at all useful, and he will just be another mouth to feed while he is giving away your position and attracting every zombie for a mile with his whining.
(He has a name, you know)
What Luke made the same excuse with Clem? "I'm not going to risk dying for a kid!" Maybe you all should start… more taking lessons from Luke, because obviously none of you have the moral sense to put someone's life above your own, which is exactly what people like Lee and Luke did, which is what made them great, and what makes them stand out from everyone else. You all talk about how great of a person Lee was, yet don't even try to strive to walk in his footsteps!
What if Lee said, "Well, I'm not going out there and risking my life for a little kid!"
So, according to people here: they don't want to leave Clem behind, but they are willing to leave AJ behind... it makes no sense. AJ isn't some kid, he is your family now.
So tell me: if Lee and Luke can risk their life for Clementine, what makes it justified to leave AJ to the dogs?
Doesn't change the fact that Luke risked his life for her. Everybody knows that a walker bite is dead meat. AJ isn't bit by a walker, so that point literally has nothing to do with anything.
Lee was the only one who risked his life for someone else and died in the series so far (not including Doug, who is determent). Luke drowned, had nothing to do with him saving Clem.
So you're saying Lee isn't great? I was generalizing tbh.
Okay so according to you: being another mouth to feed is a bad thing? You're just another mouth to feed. Stop acting like you're some special person who doesn't need the EXACT SAME SUBSTANCE as everyone else. You aren't justified in leaving AJ behind: its a selfish ambition and monstrous. In fact, you claim Lee should have left Clementine when you are in fact Clementine... so you're saying he should have left you? Someone who pulled her weight just as much, if not more, than an adult?
A baby cry isn't a Goddamn gunshot. Name one time AJ gave away your position? It was always the ADULTS who attracted the walkers with gunshots and crap. Unless you're close to walkers, a baby cry shouldn't do anything. So, you should spend more time worrying about your gun noises than a baby cry. Plus, usefulness has nothing to do with anything. It's an excuse, not a reason. It's an excuse to skip out on responsibility.
* Luke did not know what to do with Clementine when he found the bite, Pete was the one who convinced him to help.
* I refuse to let some… moreone else get me killed. Sure Lee and Luke helped others but where are they now? Dead!
* I did not say Lee was great.
* He should not have helped find Clementine who was just another mouth to feed anyway. His "search" for Clementine got him killed.
* It will take years for AJ to be at all useful, and he will just be another mouth to feed while he is giving away your position and attracting every zombie for a mile with his whining.
Luke didn't even look at the bite to see if it was a "walker", and I did not mention AJ
People who help die: Carley, Doug, Lee, Kenny, Luke, Pete, etc... And Luke helped AJ when I left it in the battlefield ending up getting him killed.
irrelevant
Yes, I know what it takes to survive, its not about right and wrong its about survival, Yes he should have left Clementine, and I would not have got captured looking for my parents who I knew were dead, Clementine in season 1 was worthless she always wanted to eat, whining about a damn hat, running away, asking so many stupid questions.
Referring to Rebecca's statement in episode 1 when Nick shot at Clementine "walkers for 5 miles heard that" so yeah 1 mile will do especially with the lack of wildlife now. AJ can cry at any time giving away your position like at the power plant. That is why you keep moving. If Sarah was useful Carlos would have survived, had AJ been useful Luke would be alive, had Clementine been useful Lee would be alive thus, usefulness is everything.
Doesn't change the fact that Luke risked his life for her. Everybody knows that a walker bite is dead meat. AJ isn't bit by a walker, so t… morehat point literally has nothing to do with anything.
Lee was the only one who risked his life for someone else and died in the series so far (not including Doug, who is determent). Luke drowned, had nothing to do with him saving Clem.
So you're saying Lee isn't great? I was generalizing tbh.
Okay so according to you: being another mouth to feed is a bad thing? You're just another mouth to feed. Stop acting like you're some special person who doesn't need the EXACT SAME SUBSTANCE as everyone else. You aren't justified in leaving AJ behind: its a selfish ambition and monstrous. In fact, you claim Lee should have left Clementine when you are in fact Clementine... so you're saying he should have left you? Someone who pulled her weight just as much, if not more, than an adult?
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It doesn't look good when you see a girl surrounded by walkers and see a bite. It's a safe assumption to make. This point is irrelevant.
Wrong: people die. The end. Helping others has nothing to do with it. Can you link me to someone's death that helping someone else directly caused? A majority of the game you would say no, because a majority of the characters don't die because they helped someone.
It is about right and wrong. It determines whether or not you are an evil person
Clem is useless?
Who was the one who crawled through the air vent and unlocked the door for you so you guys wouldn't be cannibalized? Who was the one who gave you a cane to block a door with so you could help someone in need (Carly/Doug) while the other adults were preoccupied? Who was the one who shot a walker that was on Molly? Who was the one who crawled through a doggie hole and unlocked a door so none of you would get trapped by walkers? Who was the one who killed a walker while protecting defenseless Omid, who was sick?
* Luke didn't even look at the bite to see if it was a "walker", and I did not mention AJ
* People who help die: Carley, Doug, Lee, Kenny… more, Luke, Pete, etc... And Luke helped AJ when I left it in the battlefield ending up getting him killed.
* irrelevant
* Yes, I know what it takes to survive, its not about right and wrong its about survival, Yes he should have left Clementine, and I would not have got captured looking for my parents who I knew were dead, Clementine in season 1 was worthless she always wanted to eat, whining about a damn hat, running away, asking so many stupid questions.
* Referring to Rebecca's statement in episode 1 when Nick shot at Clementine "walkers for 5 miles heard that" so yeah 1 mile will do especially with the lack of wildlife now. AJ can cry at any time giving away your position like at the power plant. That is why you keep moving. If Sarah was useful Carlos would have survived, had AJ been useful Luk… [view original content]
Everyone is evil in the apocalypse they kill to survive, Lee killed st johns, stranger, Duck/Shawn, Doug/Carley etc... If you do not accept the world you live in you end up just like them.
It was a pretty big vent Lilly could have fit, Lee ordered her to, I saved Molly (left the baggage back at the house), Ben could have reached in, congrats 1 "walker" kill, they're all sick buddy.
(excuse me if I seem rude, I'm just passionate)
It doesn't look good when you see a girl surrounded by walkers and see a bite. It's a sa… morefe assumption to make. This point is irrelevant.
Wrong: people die. The end. Helping others has nothing to do with it. Can you link me to someone's death that helping someone else directly caused? A majority of the game you would say no, because a majority of the characters don't die because they helped someone.
It is about right and wrong. It determines whether or not you are an evil person
Clem is useless?
Who was the one who crawled through the air vent and unlocked the door for you so you guys wouldn't be cannibalized? Who was the one who gave you a cane to block a door with so you could help someone in need (Carly/Doug) while the other adults were preoccupied? Who was the one who shot a walker that was on Molly? Who was the one who crawled through a doggie hole and unlocked a… [view original content]
No, self defense does not equate to immorality. That is illogical to say that it is evil to kill someone who tried to take your life or your loved ones life. Lee didn't kill Duck, he was bitten. Shawn was tried to be saved, Lee simply didn't make it to him in time, he is not responsible for his death; the walkers still killed him. Carly/Doug couldn't have been saved in time, the walkers still killed him/her.
Saying what could have happened doesn't change the fact that it happened, plus you had no way of measuring the vent. Ben may or may not have, he only suggested it (and it doesn't change the fact that it happened), and it was one walker that would have eaten a defenseless Omid, so she just saved a life. Not everybody had an infection in their leg to the point where they couldn't function.
* They didn't even look at the bite.
* Lee died helping Clementine
* Everyone is evil in the apocalypse they kill to survive, Lee kill… moreed st johns, stranger, Duck/Shawn, Doug/Carley etc... If you do not accept the world you live in you end up just like them.
* It was a pretty big vent Lilly could have fit, Lee ordered her to, I saved Molly (left the baggage back at the house), Ben could have reached in, congrats 1 "walker" kill, they're all sick buddy.
Clementine was useless in season 1.
Lee left the St john's to die - murder, Lee could have killed the "walkers" but he didn't so he killed Shawn, Lee shot Duck (In some), you still pick one over the other meaning you chose to let one of them die.
Exactly you could not have measured the vent so you don't know if Lilly could fit or not from my standpoint she could, Ben had long ass arms, would have taken forever for 1 "walker" to get through a door, so she killed a "stationary" "walker", everyone has the virus meaning they all are "sick".
Um... yeah they did?
One person versus a whole cast.
No, self defense does not equate to immorality. That is illogical to say that it… more is evil to kill someone who tried to take your life or your loved ones life. Lee didn't kill Duck, he was bitten. Shawn was tried to be saved, Lee simply didn't make it to him in time, he is not responsible for his death; the walkers still killed him. Carly/Doug couldn't have been saved in time, the walkers still killed him/her.
Saying what could have happened doesn't change the fact that it happened, plus you had no way of measuring the vent. Ben may or may not have, he only suggested it (and it doesn't change the fact that it happened), and it was one walker that would have eaten a defenseless Omid, so she just saved a life. Not everybody had an infection in their leg to the point where they couldn't function.
There's nothing that pisses me off more than selfish jerks who doesn't even try to help others and only thinks for themselves.
I nev… moreer stated i wouldnt look after people i care about, just not babies.
You said you have no faith in humanity. The truth is you also have no faith in yourself.
Well i dont really care about life so yeah.
You hate the cruelty of the world right? Then what are you doing?
Unnecessary cruelty is what i hate.
You say it's survival, but what are you surviving for? Yourself? All you do is just kill others and abandon folks just so you yourself can live just live longer.
Well obviously i would want to keep around 1 or 2 people i care about. Life is meaningless so there is no point to live if you cant enjoy it with friends.
All you're doing is prolonging the inevitable.
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Umm they didn't at first?
Luke died helping AJ to name another
Lee left the St john's to die - murder, Lee could have killed the "wal… morekers" but he didn't so he killed Shawn, Lee shot Duck (In some), you still pick one over the other meaning you chose to let one of them die.
Exactly you could not have measured the vent so you don't know if Lilly could fit or not from my standpoint she could, Ben had long ass arms, would have taken forever for 1 "walker" to get through a door, so she killed a "stationary" "walker", everyone has the virus meaning they all are "sick".
He helped AJ winded up getting shot in the leg which ended up in him going through the ice so yes he did.
Lee beat the shit out of him he is in no shape to "run" away and he left him = murder.
And in my assumption when it showed Clementine in the vent it showed lots of space (or at least enough for Lilly to climb in). equates Clementine IS still useless.
No he didn't... he walked across ice.
Lee let Andy St. John live, and he chose to just sit there.
It goes along with assumptions. Clem made the situation easier, if it wasn't impossible to begin with. That equates to NOT useless.
He helped AJ winded up getting shot in the leg which ended up in him going through the ice so yes he did.
Lee beat the shit out of him he… more is in no shape to "run" away and he left him = murder.
And in my assumption when it showed Clementine in the vent it showed lots of space (or at least enough for Lilly to climb in). equates Clementine IS still useless.
How can you play games a lot if you are here all the time?
I stay up for +18 hours a day and sometimes stay awake for 2 days?
… moreIts not false info just like you ranting on about the endings while you only have seen 1 ending....
I've seen them, i just never have chosen them in my own game because i would never choose to go with Kenny or search for Wellington.
And didn't he take the full blame for it ? Yes he did he may even have lost his sight on 1 side Clem didn't hazve to get hurt but then Sarit… morea took the hit
The point was the he put Clementine in danger. If the situation didnt allow Kenny to take the walkie talkie, Clementine would have been fucked up.
And i think jane only wanted the easy way , and i don't care what your stepdad did that doesn't make kenny like him
The point was, Kenny wont be closest person to Clementine, if you choose to do so. In my game, Clementine didnt consider Kenny as "dad", he was Carver 2.0 to my Clem.
If you wont stop with your childish troll comments, i will just ignore you.
well then , you go live with a dictator who deserved to get his head smashed in and kills even quicker than Jane does...
The more you say the more you look like carver
Carver's group was doing just fine until Clementine's group fucked things up. Crawford was doing just fine until irrational survivor fucked things up. Do you see the pattern here?
Lee taking Clem is an adult taking a child. Clem taking AJ is a child taking care of another child. If your Clem follow Lee's line of thought, then she probably wouldn't leave AJ... If It was me? I don't feel sad if someone I don't know dies. I hardly know this baby, it's not mine, you belong to a bitch that I wanted dead since day 1, and you're gonna fuck me up sooner or later. If I had the chance I would give it to Kenny/Jane and leave both behind.
I'm tired of this political correctness people are throwing at Zykelator. I agree babies are important since if we don't have them in a za, we will all die eventually and it will be useless to survive. But you should leave this kind of stuff to people who have the safety to grow a baby. I mean, you have no fucking place to stay, you're not sure if you'll have food for the baby, and it can fuck you up in case you met walkers 'round there. If I die, it dies too. If it dies, I don't die. I'd do the same as Kenny (Does not mean I'm like him, I hate him lol), leave the kids to Wellington and just leave, if I had one and knew there was a place where I can leave them.
If I have no idea somewhere as Wellington exists and I find a baby? Sorry pal, loner wolf or not, I can't risk my and other people's life for yours. It's gonna take at least one decade for you to be useful and I hope by then the za is over, and I plan on being there. Taking the baby will reduce my chance of seeing this happen.
Morals? They vary from person to person. Humanity? Too. Even more in a ZA. In episode one I had parental feelings for Clementine and so I tried acted as a decent and protecting Lee (I didn't took the food from Stranger, for example). As Clementine, well, I try not to lose my humanity, I slapped Sarah (Who's not much different from a baby), but I didn't felt bad when she died just after. I mean, people who are a liabilty will eventually die in za, and a baby IS a liability for everyone around it (If not in Wellington)
(He has a name, you know)
What Luke made the same excuse with Clem? "I'm not going to risk dying for a kid!" Maybe you all should start… more taking lessons from Luke, because obviously none of you have the moral sense to put someone's life above your own, which is exactly what people like Lee and Luke did, which is what made them great, and what makes them stand out from everyone else. You all talk about how great of a person Lee was, yet don't even try to strive to walk in his footsteps!
What if Lee said, "Well, I'm not going out there and risking my life for a little kid!"
So, according to people here: they don't want to leave Clem behind, but they are willing to leave AJ behind... it makes no sense. AJ isn't some kid, he is your family now.
So tell me: if Lee and Luke can risk their life for Clementine, what makes it justified to leave AJ to the dogs?
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I stay up for +18 hours a day and sometimes stay awake for 2 days?
I've seen them, i just never have chosen them in my own game because i would never choose to go with Kenny or search for Wellington.
My sister when pregnant called the cops on me telling them that i stole 6,000 dollars from her safe that she leaves open because she doesn't want to put in new Batteries every time she wants to use it. Turns out after giving them my statement i get a call from my sister that she found it days later in a sock drawer.
Never got a apology, never will.
Luke did not know what to do with Clementine when he found the bite, Pete was the one who convinced him to help.
I refuse to let someone else get me killed. Sure Lee and Luke helped others but where are they now? Dead!
I did not say Lee was great.
He should not have helped find Clementine who was just another mouth to feed anyway. His "search" for Clementine got him killed.
It will take years for AJ to be at all useful, and he will just be another mouth to feed while he is giving away your position and attracting every zombie for a mile with his whining.
Doesn't change the fact that Luke risked his life for her. Everybody knows that a walker bite is dead meat. AJ isn't bit by a walker, so that point literally has nothing to do with anything.
Lee was the only one who risked his life for someone else and died in the series so far (not including Doug, who is determent). Luke drowned, had nothing to do with him saving Clem.
So you're saying Lee isn't great? I was generalizing tbh.
Okay so according to you: being another mouth to feed is a bad thing? You're just another mouth to feed. Stop acting like you're some special person who doesn't need the EXACT SAME SUBSTANCE as everyone else. You aren't justified in leaving AJ behind: its a selfish ambition and monstrous. In fact, you claim Lee should have left Clementine when you are in fact Clementine... so you're saying he should have left you? Someone who pulled her weight just as much, if not more, than an adult?
A baby cry isn't a Goddamn gunshot. Name one time AJ gave away your position? It was always the ADULTS who attracted the walkers with gunshots and crap. Unless you're close to walkers, a baby cry shouldn't do anything. So, you should spend more time worrying about your gun noises than a baby cry. Plus, usefulness has nothing to do with anything. It's an excuse, not a reason. It's an excuse to skip out on responsibility.
Luke didn't even look at the bite to see if it was a "walker", and I did not mention AJ
People who help die: Carley, Doug, Lee, Kenny, Luke, Pete, etc... And Luke helped AJ when I left it in the battlefield ending up getting him killed.
irrelevant
Yes, I know what it takes to survive, its not about right and wrong its about survival, Yes he should have left Clementine, and I would not have got captured looking for my parents who I knew were dead, Clementine in season 1 was worthless she always wanted to eat, whining about a damn hat, running away, asking so many stupid questions.
Referring to Rebecca's statement in episode 1 when Nick shot at Clementine "walkers for 5 miles heard that" so yeah 1 mile will do especially with the lack of wildlife now. AJ can cry at any time giving away your position like at the power plant. That is why you keep moving. If Sarah was useful Carlos would have survived, had AJ been useful Luke would be alive, had Clementine been useful Lee would be alive thus, usefulness is everything.
(excuse me if I seem rude, I'm just passionate)
It doesn't look good when you see a girl surrounded by walkers and see a bite. It's a safe assumption to make. This point is irrelevant.
Wrong: people die. The end. Helping others has nothing to do with it. Can you link me to someone's death that helping someone else directly caused? A majority of the game you would say no, because a majority of the characters don't die because they helped someone.
It is about right and wrong. It determines whether or not you are an evil person
Clem is useless?
Who was the one who crawled through the air vent and unlocked the door for you so you guys wouldn't be cannibalized? Who was the one who gave you a cane to block a door with so you could help someone in need (Carly/Doug) while the other adults were preoccupied? Who was the one who shot a walker that was on Molly? Who was the one who crawled through a doggie hole and unlocked a door so none of you would get trapped by walkers? Who was the one who killed a walker while protecting defenseless Omid, who was sick?
Clem is far from useless, even in season one.
They didn't even look at the bite.
Lee died helping Clementine
Everyone is evil in the apocalypse they kill to survive, Lee killed st johns, stranger, Duck/Shawn, Doug/Carley etc... If you do not accept the world you live in you end up just like them.
It was a pretty big vent Lilly could have fit, Lee ordered her to, I saved Molly (left the baggage back at the house), Ben could have reached in, congrats 1 "walker" kill, they're all sick buddy.
Clementine was useless in season 1.
Um... yeah they did?
One person versus a whole cast.
No, self defense does not equate to immorality. That is illogical to say that it is evil to kill someone who tried to take your life or your loved ones life. Lee didn't kill Duck, he was bitten. Shawn was tried to be saved, Lee simply didn't make it to him in time, he is not responsible for his death; the walkers still killed him. Carly/Doug couldn't have been saved in time, the walkers still killed him/her.
Saying what could have happened doesn't change the fact that it happened, plus you had no way of measuring the vent. Ben may or may not have, he only suggested it (and it doesn't change the fact that it happened), and it was one walker that would have eaten a defenseless Omid, so she just saved a life. Not everybody had an infection in their leg to the point where they couldn't function.
Umm they didn't at first?
Luke died helping AJ to name another
Lee left the St john's to die - murder, Lee could have killed the "walkers" but he didn't so he killed Shawn, Lee shot Duck (In some), you still pick one over the other meaning you chose to let one of them die.
Exactly you could not have measured the vent so you don't know if Lilly could fit or not from my standpoint she could, Ben had long ass arms, would have taken forever for 1 "walker" to get through a door, so she killed a "stationary" "walker", everyone has the virus meaning they all are "sick".
the reason to survive is not for survival but to keep your hummanity
Luckily I ain't a Jane fan. @_@
what's with you people?
No he didn't... he walked across ice.
Lee let Andy St. John live, and he chose to just sit there.
It goes along with assumptions. Clem made the situation easier, if it wasn't impossible to begin with. That equates to NOT useless.
He helped AJ winded up getting shot in the leg which ended up in him going through the ice so yes he did.
Lee beat the shit out of him he is in no shape to "run" away and he left him = murder.
And in my assumption when it showed Clementine in the vent it showed lots of space (or at least enough for Lilly to climb in). equates Clementine IS still useless.
Well thats your opinion.
Luke also gets shot if he doesn't safe AJ
Lee can Kill St John
And lily is just as tall as lee maybe her butt wil get stuck
So... still hatin' A VIDEOGAME CHARACTER huh
Kinda sad don't you think ?
living with carver was always dangerous
well then , you go live with a dictator who deserved to get his head smashed in and kills even quicker than Jane does...
The more you say the more you look like carver
Living with carver and being a liability was dangerous.
Lee taking Clem is an adult taking a child. Clem taking AJ is a child taking care of another child. If your Clem follow Lee's line of thought, then she probably wouldn't leave AJ... If It was me? I don't feel sad if someone I don't know dies. I hardly know this baby, it's not mine, you belong to a bitch that I wanted dead since day 1, and you're gonna fuck me up sooner or later. If I had the chance I would give it to Kenny/Jane and leave both behind.
I'm tired of this political correctness people are throwing at Zykelator. I agree babies are important since if we don't have them in a za, we will all die eventually and it will be useless to survive. But you should leave this kind of stuff to people who have the safety to grow a baby. I mean, you have no fucking place to stay, you're not sure if you'll have food for the baby, and it can fuck you up in case you met walkers 'round there. If I die, it dies too. If it dies, I don't die. I'd do the same as Kenny (Does not mean I'm like him, I hate him lol), leave the kids to Wellington and just leave, if I had one and knew there was a place where I can leave them.
If I have no idea somewhere as Wellington exists and I find a baby? Sorry pal, loner wolf or not, I can't risk my and other people's life for yours. It's gonna take at least one decade for you to be useful and I hope by then the za is over, and I plan on being there. Taking the baby will reduce my chance of seeing this happen.
Morals? They vary from person to person. Humanity? Too. Even more in a ZA. In episode one I had parental feelings for Clementine and so I tried acted as a decent and protecting Lee (I didn't took the food from Stranger, for example). As Clementine, well, I try not to lose my humanity, I slapped Sarah (Who's not much different from a baby), but I didn't felt bad when she died just after. I mean, people who are a liabilty will eventually die in za, and a baby IS a liability for everyone around it (If not in Wellington)
You're not, I shot Lee.
It's what made them dead, too.
Better a live coward than a dead hero. Real life az isn't as poetical as in a game.
What do you mean "you people?"
No you get kenny or jane and if you didn't shoot him he is an extra and you get andy st john