I guess i'm not the only one who doesn't agree with you.....
You are the troll here because a bite is a death sentnce ,and your responce "hoping for the best" doen't cut it here she was screwed either way. Then you should blame Jane for letting them go through the herd. But when i say that you will always disagree.. Are you zykelator? Because i don't recall you having a discussion with "you/him"?
Nope because if she doesn´t sarita dies anyway
Are you really being serious? No, really, are you? I am starting to think you are jus… moret trolling me.
Clem cutts Sarita´s arm off
Sarita screams.
The walkers drag her to the ground, bite her and nearly kill her.
Sarita is either axed by Clementine, left to bleed out (because Clem cut off her arm) or to die because of the multiple bites (and the majority of them are Clem´s fault).
Because she was already dead!
Nope.
Why are you finding this hard to understand?
I could say the same to you.
Bi… morepedalP's point still holds up firmly.
Ah, ah, ah, good one.
Oh, wait, you are serious.
It wasn't Clem's fault for her death. Not even remotely.
Well, if you cut off her arm, she either bleeds out, you axe Sarita, or the three more bites caused her to die. All of which are actions of Clementine and their consequences. How is that not her fault? Explain.
You are the troll here because a bite is a death sentnce ,and your responce "hoping for the best" doen't cut it here she was screwed either way.
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Then you should blame Jane for letting them go through the herd.
I need a drink.
I hope you are not being serious here.
If we have to follow your logic, then we should blame Mike, Bonnie, Sarah, Carlos, Luke, Jane, Kenny, Clem and Sarita for Sarita´s death, because everyone aggred to go trougth the herd.
. But when i say that you will always disagree..
Well, stop being so...
You know.
Are you zykelator? Because i don't recall you having a discussion with "you/him"?
I guess i'm not the only one who doesn't agree with you.....
You are the troll here because a bite is a death sentnce ,and your responce "h… moreoping for the best" doen't cut it here she was screwed either way. Then you should blame Jane for letting them go through the herd. But when i say that you will always disagree.. Are you zykelator? Because i don't recall you having a discussion with "you/him"?
The thing is, it shouldn't even be part her fault. It can't be her fault at all. You're telling me it was only part her fault if you don't cut Sarita's arm off? How? How is it even her fault? You're telling me the only reason is CAN'T be her fault is if she literally wasn't there.
Than what action COULD she have done to not make it her fault? Not have been there?
Look, I really don´t know how to make it more cl… moreear to you.
Sarita´s death is all Clem´s fault if you cutt off Sarita´s arm.
If you don´t cutt off Sarita´s arm, Clem has only part of the blame.
The thing is, it shouldn't even be part her fault. It can't be her fault at all. You're telling me it was only part her fault if you don't cut Sarita's arm off? How? How is it even her fault? You're telling me the only reason is CAN'T be her fault is if she literally wasn't there.
Look, when you do something, and something happens as a result, what happened was because of you.
You must be trolling at this point.
The thing is, it shouldn't even be part her fault. It can't be her fault at all. You're telling me it… more was only part her fault if you don't cut Sarita's arm off? How? How is it even her fault? You're telling me the only reason is CAN'T be her fault is if she literally wasn't there.
That's pretty dumb.
yes very serious because its the only way to mute her screaming a bit..
and if you disagree with this then i know you are just a troll bacuase your responces are just gettin sadder every minute.
I talk back to you just like you talk back to others.... in a very stubborn way
yes very serious because its the only way to mute her screaming a bit..
Just a little, if it even works, at all. You are not considering that the first response for having your arm cut off by a child is not: 'better bite my sleeve' is more like that 'Holy shit this hurts a fucking lot'. And, of course, you are not considering that, even if biting her sleeve or a gun muffled her screams a bit, it could not be enough to avoid being killed. Walkers are supersensitive to sound, a fact you can´t seem to grasp.
your responces are just gettin sadder every minute.
Oh, the irony! You can't even write well and you say things like this?
I talk back to you just like you talk back to others.... in a very stubborn way
yes very serious because its the only way to mute her screaming a bit..
and if you disagree with this then i know you are just a troll ba… morecuase your responces are just gettin sadder every minute.
I talk back to you just like you talk back to others.... in a very stubborn way
you care because you respond to everything....
And i'm not english its not even a common language over here.
You can read my posts , i may not write well but my responces don't go toward frustrations like your "i don't care" attitude
yes very serious because its the only way to mute her screaming a bit..
Just a little, if it even works, at all. You are not conside… morering that the first response for having your arm cut off by a child is not: 'better bite my sleeve' is more like that 'Holy shit this hurts a fucking lot'. And, of course, you are not considering that, even if biting her sleeve or a gun muffled her screams a bit, it could not be enough to avoid being killed. Walkers are supersensitive to sound, a fact you can´t seem to grasp.
your responces are just gettin sadder every minute.
Oh, the irony! You can't even write well and you say things like this?
I talk back to you just like you talk back to others.... in a very stubborn way
Why should I care?
People were pissed at Kenny when he blamed Clem for Sarita's death. It's not much different now where Bonnie blames Clem for Luke's death. I think the only reason why people hate Bonnie is cause if you tried to cover Luke and save Bonnie, she never expresses any gratitude, never apologizes for her behavior, and willingly leaves Clem to die. She even says to Mike to just leave her. Kenny would never do that. EVER. Despite Clem causing Sarita's death, Kenny actually apologizes to Clem after a little while and he explains his reasons as to why he lashed out at her. Just the heat of the moment. Bonnie on the other hand held a grudge on Clem all the way to the end.
you care because you respond to everything....
And i'm not english its not even a common language over here.
You can read my posts , i may… more not write well but my responces don't go toward frustrations like your "i don't care" attitude
"Why should i care" ,its a forum ???
all i want is a normal conversation and not the whole time "its not true"blabbering.
Second language is still english is it not?
W#hy you should care ? Because you respond back maybe? And I'm not the one who says that i don't care thats you
I'll tell you why i don't respond because if i say yes , you'll say no and the other way around...
you care because you respond to everything....
And you don´t?
And i'm not english its not even a common language over here.
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And?
I not English either, I am Spanish.
i may not write well but my responces don't go toward frustrations like your "i don't care" attitude
Oh really? Tell me why are you just complaining about my third response, instead of actually responding to me?
Spoiler Alert: You don´t respond because you can´t.
"Why should i care" ,its a forum ???
I am going to rephrase myself. Maybe you understand now.
Why should I care about what you think of me, or my responses?
all i want is a normal conversation and not the whole time "its not true"blabbering.
What? You really are fucking ridiculous. I am the only one who actually is trying to have a normal conversation with you. You are just complaining.
Second language is still english is it not?
And?
W#hy you should care ? Because you respond back maybe?
And you don´t?
And I'm not the one who says that i don't care thats you
I don´t care about what you think of me, of course, but I do care about what you have to say. But, of course, you are not going to say anything because you have nothing to say. Admit it already. You could have responded to this:
Just a little, if it even works, at all. You are not considering that the first response for having your arm cut off by a child is not: 'better bite my sleeve' is more like that 'Holy shit this hurts a fucking lot'. And, of course, you are not considering that, even if biting her sleeve or a gun muffled her screams a bit, it could not be enough to avoid being killed. Walkers are supersensitive to sound, a fact you can´t seem to grasp.
But no, you did not respond to this. You just complain and complain and nothing more.
I'll tell you why i don't respond because if i say yes , you'll say no and the other way around...
You don´t respond because you can´t respond. Stop fooling yourself. Your response was so stupid that you don´t have anything to back it up.
all i want is a normal conversation and not the whole time "its not true"blabbering.
Second language is still english is it not?
W#hy you … moreshould care ? Because you respond back maybe? And I'm not the one who says that i don't care thats you
I'll tell you why i don't respond because if i say yes , you'll say no and the other way around...
The thing is, it shouldn't even be part her fault. It can't be her fault at all. You're telling me it was only part her fault if you don't c… moreut Sarita's arm off? How? How is it even her fault? You're telling me the only reason is CAN'T be her fault is if she literally wasn't there.
Look, when you do something, and something happens as a result, what happened was because of you.
How is this that hard to understand?
Right well answer this, HOW can it NOT be HER fault? Get me? Did she literally not have to be there for it to not be her fault?
I am not saying his all her fault, smartass. You should read properly first. I am saying that cutting off her arm kill Sarita, so in that scenario is all Clem´s fault. If you don´t, she just shares part of the blame.
Stop quoting the posts, I know what I wrote.
Right well answer this, HOW can it NOT be HER fault? Get me? Did she literally not have to be there for it to not be her fault?
The walker bit, she did her best based on what she knew,
And? What Clem did caused Sarita to die, regardless of her intentions.
… more by the time they got out of the herd it'd be too late to amputate it in safety
I don´t think so. Lee survived for a whle before he (determinantly) gets his arm cut off. And if you do cut off his arm, then his clear he only dies for blood loss. So, yes, Sarita could have survived that.
Stop quoting the posts, I know what I wrote.
And?
Right well answer this, HOW can it NOT be HER fault? Get me? Did she literal… morely not have to be there for it to not be her fault?
I am not saying his all her fault, smartass. You should read properly first. I am saying that cutting off her arm kill Sarita, so in that scenario is all Clem´s fault. If you don´t, she just shares part of the blame.
I just read through this whole thing and I'm just...wow okay. Before I say anything, AlanSpencer, I just want you to know I'm not arguing or anything just questions and points toward why its not Clem's fault.
1) Sarita died because the walker bit her so it's the walkers fault. Clem had no power over the walker deciding the chomp on some Sarita meat.
2) If you go by the logic that it is Clem's fault because she acted on a bad situation and it was a bad outcome. then you can also say that Lee killed Mark because they brought him in to their group and brought him to the barn and got him shot, would you agree with that? Because how I see Lee had no idea that Mark would have been shot with an arrow, how could he have known? Same goes with Clem, she didn't know going with Kenny's group would get Sarita killed because a walker bit her, how could she have known?
3) Clem tried to save Sarita, I mean Kenny, her fricken boyfriend, wasn't even with her to help protect her in the horde, so how I see it Clem tried even harder than Kenny to protect Sarita.
4) Amputating the body part (depending on which of course, like the neck wouldn't obviously) is a 50/50 depending on how soon and some luck. It obviously helped Lee, even though he died, it helped Reggie (I don't think he would lie, because he has a soft nature, it wouldn't be in him. Even if he did he would probably admit to have lying when you are alone with him), it saved Pete's cousin as stated, I mean, hell, Pete was even willing to try it, so if you chose to slice that sucker off then you obviously have the intent of saving the person.
5) What if Clem wouldn't have run into Sarita? You think it's her fault for trying, so by logic not to be at blame would be to not help like you never saw it, that's worse than not trying. Clem did her best in a bad situation, at least she tried to do some good.
willingly leaves Clem to die. She even says to Mike to just leave her. Kenny would never do that. EVER
Tell me about what Kenny did when he left Clem alone in the middle of the herd after Sarita´s death / bite.
And to be fair, Bonnie didn´t have enough time as Kenny to get her head straight and realize what she has done. Kenny apologized at S2E5 for something he did at S2E4.
People were pissed at Kenny when he blamed Clem for Sarita's death. It's not much different now where Bonnie blames Clem for Luke's death. I… more think the only reason why people hate Bonnie is cause if you tried to cover Luke and save Bonnie, she never expresses any gratitude, never apologizes for her behavior, and willingly leaves Clem to die. She even says to Mike to just leave her. Kenny would never do that. EVER. Despite Clem causing Sarita's death, Kenny actually apologizes to Clem after a little while and he explains his reasons as to why he lashed out at her. Just the heat of the moment. Bonnie on the other hand held a grudge on Clem all the way to the end.
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I guess i'm not the only one who doesn't agree with you.....
You are the troll here because a bite is a death sentnce ,and your responce "hoping for the best" doen't cut it here she was screwed either way. Then you should blame Jane for letting them go through the herd. But when i say that you will always disagree.. Are you zykelator? Because i don't recall you having a discussion with "you/him"?
Nope.
Than what action COULD she have done to not make it her fault? Not have been there?
It's times like this I really miss the downvotes.
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I need a drink.
I hope you are not being serious here.
If we have to follow your logic, then we should blame Mike, Bonnie, Sarah, Carlos, Luke, Jane, Kenny, Clem and Sarita for Sarita´s death, because everyone aggred to go trougth the herd.
Well, stop being so...
You know.
You are stupid.
No, really, you are.
http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/comment/1626900#Comment_1626900
Do you need more examples?
Look, I really don´t know how to make it more clear to you.
Sarita´s death is all Clem´s fault if you cutt off Sarita´s arm.
If you don´t cutt off Sarita´s arm, Clem has only part of the blame.
You must be trolling at this point.
The thing is, it shouldn't even be part her fault. It can't be her fault at all. You're telling me it was only part her fault if you don't cut Sarita's arm off? How? How is it even her fault? You're telling me the only reason is CAN'T be her fault is if she literally wasn't there.
That's pretty dumb.
Look, when you do something, and something happens as a result, what happened was because of you.
How is this that hard to understand?
Fuck bonnie that bitch deserves death
Lee: Right behind ya
yes very serious because its the only way to mute her screaming a bit..
and if you disagree with this then i know you are just a troll bacuase your responces are just gettin sadder every minute.
I talk back to you just like you talk back to others.... in a very stubborn way
Just a little, if it even works, at all. You are not considering that the first response for having your arm cut off by a child is not: 'better bite my sleeve' is more like that 'Holy shit this hurts a fucking lot'. And, of course, you are not considering that, even if biting her sleeve or a gun muffled her screams a bit, it could not be enough to avoid being killed. Walkers are supersensitive to sound, a fact you can´t seem to grasp.
Oh, the irony! You can't even write well and you say things like this?
Why should I care?
you care because you respond to everything....
And i'm not english its not even a common language over here.
You can read my posts , i may not write well but my responces don't go toward frustrations like your "i don't care" attitude
"Why should i care" ,its a forum ???
People were pissed at Kenny when he blamed Clem for Sarita's death. It's not much different now where Bonnie blames Clem for Luke's death. I think the only reason why people hate Bonnie is cause if you tried to cover Luke and save Bonnie, she never expresses any gratitude, never apologizes for her behavior, and willingly leaves Clem to die. She even says to Mike to just leave her. Kenny would never do that. EVER. Despite Clem causing Sarita's death, Kenny actually apologizes to Clem after a little while and he explains his reasons as to why he lashed out at her. Just the heat of the moment. Bonnie on the other hand held a grudge on Clem all the way to the end.
And you don´t?
And?
I not English either, I am Spanish.
Oh really? Tell me why are you just complaining about my third response, instead of actually responding to me?
Spoiler Alert: You don´t respond because you can´t.
I am going to rephrase myself. Maybe you understand now.
Why should I care about what you think of me, or my responses?
all i want is a normal conversation and not the whole time "its not true"blabbering.
Second language is still english is it not?
W#hy you should care ? Because you respond back maybe? And I'm not the one who says that i don't care thats you
I'll tell you why i don't respond because if i say yes , you'll say no and the other way around...
What? You really are fucking ridiculous. I am the only one who actually is trying to have a normal conversation with you. You are just complaining.
And?
And you don´t?
I don´t care about what you think of me, of course, but I do care about what you have to say. But, of course, you are not going to say anything because you have nothing to say. Admit it already. You could have responded to this:
But no, you did not respond to this. You just complain and complain and nothing more.
You don´t respond because you can´t respond. Stop fooling yourself. Your response was so stupid that you don´t have anything to back it up.
Stop quoting the posts, I know what I wrote.
Right well answer this, HOW can it NOT be HER fault? Get me? Did she literally not have to be there for it to not be her fault?
And?
I am not saying his all her fault, smartass. You should read properly first. I am saying that cutting off her arm kill Sarita, so in that scenario is all Clem´s fault. If you don´t, she just shares part of the blame.
Wow.... You're a special kind of retard aren't you?
You're very annoying.
I just read through this whole thing and I'm just...wow okay. Before I say anything, AlanSpencer, I just want you to know I'm not arguing or anything just questions and points toward why its not Clem's fault.
1) Sarita died because the walker bit her so it's the walkers fault. Clem had no power over the walker deciding the chomp on some Sarita meat.
2) If you go by the logic that it is Clem's fault because she acted on a bad situation and it was a bad outcome. then you can also say that Lee killed Mark because they brought him in to their group and brought him to the barn and got him shot, would you agree with that? Because how I see Lee had no idea that Mark would have been shot with an arrow, how could he have known? Same goes with Clem, she didn't know going with Kenny's group would get Sarita killed because a walker bit her, how could she have known?
3) Clem tried to save Sarita, I mean Kenny, her fricken boyfriend, wasn't even with her to help protect her in the horde, so how I see it Clem tried even harder than Kenny to protect Sarita.
4) Amputating the body part (depending on which of course, like the neck wouldn't obviously) is a 50/50 depending on how soon and some luck. It obviously helped Lee, even though he died, it helped Reggie (I don't think he would lie, because he has a soft nature, it wouldn't be in him. Even if he did he would probably admit to have lying when you are alone with him), it saved Pete's cousin as stated, I mean, hell, Pete was even willing to try it, so if you chose to slice that sucker off then you obviously have the intent of saving the person.
5) What if Clem wouldn't have run into Sarita? You think it's her fault for trying, so by logic not to be at blame would be to not help like you never saw it, that's worse than not trying. Clem did her best in a bad situation, at least she tried to do some good.
Okay I'm done, have fun with your convo ^_^
Tell me about what Kenny did when he left Clem alone in the middle of the herd after Sarita´s death / bite.
And to be fair, Bonnie didn´t have enough time as Kenny to get her head straight and realize what she has done. Kenny apologized at S2E5 for something he did at S2E4.