I should probably agree with this. Telltale writes better material than season 2, which I liked but don't think it was their best. Maybe if they shake up the formula, they can discover something richer in the premise than what we've seen already from the comic repeated endlessly.
Well, I guess Telltale should stop considering Kirk man's style and go back to what they did in S1, considering that many people don't seem … moreto care for Kirk man's style, if this franchise relies on shitty writing more than once, then maybe Telltale should actually try and improve this series to please everyone once again, no need to replicate shitty and lazy writing, based on what you're saying, I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk man had something do with S2's sloppy writing.
Why the fuck did no one post this on the forums then? Load of bullshit, that. People seem to love bashing the everliving hell out of Telltale when they have absolutely no creative writing qualifications and know nothing about what makes a story good.
Season 2 was genius writing.
Season 1 was bad.
Btw, people don't get their story arc ended before they die.
A character in a story ge… morets development if they have info./facts that contributes to the story, and this was (and is) present in Season 2.
Season 2 on it's own may make it seem like the devs didn't have a whole lot of experience with good writing, but compare it to Season 1 and it's dreadful. Sarah dies a pointless death just so there's less dead weight for the group to drag, then the writers add it again with AJ. Make up your minds! Do you want it too be hard or not? And nobody except Jane and Clementine even acknowledge her death. The others act like she never existed! And what about Alvin? So the baby that we might never see again never get's to meet his parents? And Nick, nothing changed in either scenario. It had no value and the group had shrugged it off completely. And what about Walter and Matthew? A gay couple could have a been a refresher from the others who are either straight or apparently asexual. But they had no purpose to die other than for the writers to have less characters to develop.
I never cry for anything, But i cried when Clem left Lee dying, and I cried when Kenny left Clem at Wellington, moving on alone, i was loyal to Kenny in Season 1, and despite all ods, i was Loyal to Kenny in season 2. And The only way to make it to Wellington and be saved from the horrors of the world, is by sticking with Kenny to the End. Only 16% of everyone who completed season 2, came to Wellington. Im not Saying that Kenny was right to kill Jane. But Jane was no better herself. And my loyality to Kenny is unquestionable. And in the End it pays of. Clem is Saved.
Why is everyone so obsessed with, who dies, and who survives? Thats not what the story is about, at all! Its about Clems life in a Cold merciless world. And i Hope we follow Clem as a teenager in season 3.
I don't think Season Two's writing was terrible, but not on the level of the first game. But all the deaths were predictable. I didn't know … morewhen but you just tell, especially both of Nick's deaths.
Nick death #1: "Is Nick a good man?" Its so obvious, whats going to happen next.
Nick death #2: Has no dialogue and gets shot. - I know where this is going.
Master of Aeons, you seem to know what the Walking Dead is about, In the Walking dead, everything that is good dies, thats just how it is. And is something good happens, its just to push you further into the dirt next time something evil happens. The walking dead is probably one of the Most evil Universes, i ever encountered. And i like it U all remember how Rick's boy had to kill his own mother in the TV series? Pretty evil. Thats just how all Walking dead scripts are written, Its not Telltales Fault. Its just how this Universe is. Brutal And relentless. If you should complain about the Writing in general, you should tell ike to Kirkman, he is the guy with the last saying in all of this. Keep up the Great Stories Kirkman and Telltale You made on eof the Best games and i have ever played. Only good for one or two playthroughs though. Since after that, you know to well what happens. I i had to say something bad about the game, i would say: "This game is tailored after how you play" Is a load of bullshit. Its always the same story, and nothing really changes in the end. Maybe in season 2. but nothing much really.
Jeez, how many of these threads complaining about characters dying are there? I've been with Telltale since their second game. And I watched… more everyone play The Walking Dead and then start saying that Telltale wrote it wrong. Like it was a great story, but they hated episode 3 in season 1 and all the dying in season 2 was bad.
That's exactly what the franchise is built on! You introduce someone, they say something interesting, and then die for no reason. If you don't like it, stop watching. This isn't even the worst of it. Two well loved characters did all sorts of cool stuff and helped Rick and deserved really badass deaths. You know what happened to them? One got his head hacked off, no struggle, no last words. Another got an arrow through the back of the head. Died mid-sentence. And THE MOST beloved character in all of canon got beat to death somewhere after talking about how much he was looking forward to living a normal, protected life … [view original content]
I think Carleys death was pointless. Or atlest give me the option to kill Lilly right after. i hate Lilly, she is such a cunt. Her father was worse, but atlest i splatter his head.
Then Telltale did a horrible job in replicating his style in season 1, the cast didn't feel disposable, they all held some significance, the… more deaths weren't cheap shots, but well constructed ideas that led up to their deaths, and none of the characters personalities changed. That's how a story should be, careful consideration to the cast, because your characters make the story.
Agreed with Bokor. It may have been convenient at the time to randomly switch the Luke and Kenny power struggle with Jane and Kenny because it shocks viewers because no one expects it, but when you look at the Season as a whole, it really messes up everything consistency wise. I blame the dudes who wrote Ep. 3 and 4. Nick Breckon who wrote Ep. 1 and 2 had some really nice things going and when he wrote Ep. 5, all his threads were gone because the Cabin Group were all dead in pointless manners, leaving him no choice but to create something completely different.
I don't think it's good writing for the conflicts of previous episodes to be discarded in favor of new ones.
For example:
Episode 1 hi… morented that you were going to have to deal with the distrust of Carlos and Rebecca. That thread was lost as soon as Carver entered the picture in Episode 2 as the unambiguous bad guy.
Episode 4 hinted at a rivalry between Luke & Kenny, that is somehow inexplicably resolved after Kenny/Clem starts the gunfight that gets Mike injured, endangered the baby, and killed the Russians.
I should probably agree with this. Telltale writes better material than season 2, which I liked but don't think it was their best. Maybe if … morethey shake up the formula, they can discover something richer in the premise than what we've seen already from the comic repeated endlessly.
U dont get it. Luke was too good to live. Thats just how it is the THe walking dead. All that is good, dies. Just like Christa, Omid and Lee. All good people. All dead.
It's worse knowing his death at that lake was a rewrite and Jane was slotted in to take his place instead of drowning in the lake instead.
… more
Gavin Hammon, the voice actor for Kenny, confirmed that Luke's death was in very early versions of the script. Luke was always supposed to die in that lake. If it makes you feel better, Gavin also said he believed that was cheap shock value.
I think it was SO awesome to see Kenny again in season 2, It made me SO happy. And Clem Lee. Kenny And Clem are the Only characters i care about, and i care about them alot!
I underwent surgery, just so I could give you 4 thumbs up
I think TellTale should have fewer characters, but keep them around longer. Ki… morelling off around two characters per season is expected, but more than that affects their development, given the season/episode lengths.
In Season 2, I would have cut Jane and Mike from the character list and given the rest more screen time. I'm double-minded about Kenny, as I think his coming back was unrealistic (some may disagree), but his character's interactions with Clementine carried the story.
I felt that the deaths of Alvin, Carver, Rebecca and Walter were meaningful. So was Bonnie's death/departure. Perhaps Pete's death to develop Nick and Sarita's death to develop Kenny were fine as well. I feel that the rest of the characters (I'm typing in the direction of Nick, Luke, Carlos and Sarah) didn't have enough development. After their deaths, I can't easily answer what they contributed to the … [view original content]
I personally think Carley's death showed how instability and paranoia had led Lilly to the brink of insanity. Not to mention Kenny smashing Larry's head, there was also a traitor in the midst and she hardly had any support in anything she elected to do. Carley was kind of stupid in provoking Lilly like that when she even knows that Lilly is unstable. Carley calling Lilly a bitch was dumb.
I think Carleys death was pointless. Or atlest give me the option to kill Lilly right after. i hate Lilly, she is such a cunt. Her father was worse, but atlest i splatter his head.
Yes, but the thing about Season 1 is that even though everything plain sucked, there was still hope. Hope in the form of a little girl who we had to protect. As long as that little girl was alive, there was still hope for Lee Everett. Season 1 really showed me personally that it is possible in the Zombie Apocalypse to kill off characters and make me care for them. The characters in Season 1 were very well developed and each death felt like a punch to the gut and advanced the storyline while influencing others. Season 2 in my opinion was a very large step back in terms of quality and it felt very lazily though out especially after Kenny came back. Yes Season 1 set the bar really high, but that doesn't mean that you don't try to develop characters and don't try to do what made you great in the first place. Telltale missed a golden opportunity in elevating the zombie genre into something that mattered more than "Clementine goes somewhere, then everyone dies"
Master of Aeons, you seem to know what the Walking Dead is about, In the Walking dead, everything that is good dies, thats just how it is. A… morend is something good happens, its just to push you further into the dirt next time something evil happens. The walking dead is probably one of the Most evil Universes, i ever encountered. And i like it U all remember how Rick's boy had to kill his own mother in the TV series? Pretty evil. Thats just how all Walking dead scripts are written, Its not Telltales Fault. Its just how this Universe is. Brutal And relentless. If you should complain about the Writing in general, you should tell ike to Kirkman, he is the guy with the last saying in all of this. Keep up the Great Stories Kirkman and Telltale You made on eof the Best games and i have ever played. Only good for one or two playthroughs though. Since after that, you know to well what happens. I i had to say something bad about the game, i would say: "… [view original content]
Some times I forget there was even a cabin group with how forgettable they were. They were practically meaningless and did nearly nothing.
They could have done so much more for the plot than Jane vs Kenny which sucked.
Agreed. Telltale missed a golden opportunity in changing the zombie genre. They could have given Clementine some modicum of hope with at least one of the Cabin Group surivving, but nope! It's the zombie apocalypse so everyone has to die except Clementine!
At this point, good and unpredictable writing by Telltale would be to keep people alive instead of killing them. Or just give replacement ch… morearacters better backstories. Bonnie appears in more episodes than Alvin or Carlos but is still a less interesting character.
Master of Aeons, you seem to know what the Walking Dead is about, In the Walking dead, everything that is good dies, thats just how it is. A… morend is something good happens, its just to push you further into the dirt next time something evil happens. The walking dead is probably one of the Most evil Universes, i ever encountered. And i like it U all remember how Rick's boy had to kill his own mother in the TV series? Pretty evil. Thats just how all Walking dead scripts are written, Its not Telltales Fault. Its just how this Universe is. Brutal And relentless. If you should complain about the Writing in general, you should tell ike to Kirkman, he is the guy with the last saying in all of this. Keep up the Great Stories Kirkman and Telltale You made on eof the Best games and i have ever played. Only good for one or two playthroughs though. Since after that, you know to well what happens. I i had to say something bad about the game, i would say: "… [view original content]
Luke's death stands out to me as being the most honest of the group. Everyone wants to save him and they give you like twenty ways to react. You can fight really hard to save him and it will never matter. That's exactly how this world "works". All you can do is watch as everything inevitably falls apart and try and tell yourself "I won't let anyone get that close to me anymore. I've learned my lesson."
U dont get it. Luke was too good to live. Thats just how it is the THe walking dead. All that is good, dies. Just like Christa, Omid and Lee. All good people. All dead.
Well I dunno.Sarah was obviously there to die because autistic people won't survive less than 2 years in a ZA according to telltales episode 4 writers.sarita and nick were just...there...and hell,we didn't get much character development from clementine this season, and she was the main character!
Sarah was there to see if people were cold enough to really abandon a helpless child in favor of doing the "smart" thing. And the fucked up thing is not only did some people make that choice, some were eager and giddy to do so.
The Walking Dead is supposed to make you feel bad about turning into a monster, not be a power trip for assholes.
Well I dunno.Sarah was obviously there to die because autistic people won't survive less than 2 years in a ZA according to telltales episode… more 4 writers.sarita and nick were just...there...and hell,we didn't get much character development from clementine this season, and she was the main character!
I feel that the character death in Season 1 was handled better. Every death didn't felt forced, it was built up to happen. In episode 1, you learn of Larry's heart condition, so it didn't felt forced when he had his heart attack in episode 2. By talking with Katja, you learned she is a mother who deeply loves her son. So it didn't felt forced when she commit suicide. Carley's death didn't felt forced, because she was a person who protect those she cares about and she died because of that. Even Chuck's death didn't felt forced, because he has been separated from the group because he saved Clementine and being alone, hunted by walkers and an unfamiliar city, his death was plausible.
Most of the Cabin Group doesn't have any build up for their death in Season 2. Their deaths happens quite fast. You can argue that the chaos of the events killed them and there was simply no time to get to know them better. But they still could have handled some character deaths better. Sarita, Nick and Sarah's death was handled quite badly. There wasn't any proper built up for their deaths and their death doesn't have a noticeable impact on the story or the group.
I just don't think any death needs to be meaningful at all.. It's a zombie apocalypse and shit will happen to anyone at any time. If every death were written to have meaning or go out in a blaze of glory, then that would make the entire story seem un-realistic.
Like Christa, we never saw what her fate was.. Many people want to know. Truth is, things will happen that no one can stop or alter and we may never know their fate. Same with Lilly.
We can all mourn the losses and wonder what happened or blame ourselves for making a choice that may have caused their death or depature and be left wondering what happened but we'll never get that answer or closure. Yeah it may suck, but it's realistic.
I guess I just take what Telltale has created and play it as it comes and not really disect every senerio into what I think it should have been or what others say they would prefer.
I can respect anyones opinions even though I really don't agree that it's bad writing. Just because you feel a characters death was bad because you liked the character doesnt make it true.
Even the writers of Amid The Ruins took joy in the horrible death of an innocent girl. It's just so sad that people enjoyed her death and how painful it was. It's ironic to, because that's how Clementine was once upon a time and for some reason people wanted Sarah dead just because she was irritating and the writers of Amid The Ruins decided to give her the most awful fate she could have.
Sarah was there to see if people were cold enough to really abandon a helpless child in favor of doing the "smart" thing. And the fucked up … morething is not only did some people make that choice, some were eager and giddy to do so.
The Walking Dead is supposed to make you feel bad about turning into a monster, not be a power trip for assholes.
Okay. But consider this. Every Season 1 death did something to the story. No one went out in a "blaze of glory" and each death made sense. And how can a story sound unrealistic when we are talking about zombies, a fictional idea in pop culture? Season 1 did an amazing job tying up loose ends and it felt complete while Season 2 started many ideas and threads between characters but never resolved it.
While it is a zombie apocalypse based off Robert Kirkman's world where characters come and go between the pages, Telltale did something amazing with Season 1 in creating a world of zombies where the characters truly starred in an ensemble cast and each character felt like a distinct person. Season 2 lost that great consistency and characterization in the middle of the Season that I loved about Telltale's Walking Dead Game and it sunk back from extraordinary to just decent.
I just don't think any death needs to be meaningful at all.. It's a zombie apocalypse and shit will happen to anyone at any time. If every … moredeath were written to have meaning or go out in a blaze of glory, then that would make the entire story seem un-realistic.
Like Christa, we never saw what her fate was.. Many people want to know. Truth is, things will happen that no one can stop or alter and we may never know their fate. Same with Lilly.
We can all mourn the losses and wonder what happened or blame ourselves for making a choice that may have caused their death or depature and be left wondering what happened but we'll never get that answer or closure. Yeah it may suck, but it's realistic.
I guess I just take what Telltale has created and play it as it comes and not really disect every senerio into what I think it should have been or what others say they would prefer.
I can respect anyones opinions even though I really don't a… [view original content]
So what, the only people who can die are the ones who have told you "I will die this way and it will be meaningful because I want it"? That's bullshit. Sometimes you have to have someone who no one wants to see gone die for no reason.
I feel that the character death in Season 1 was handled better. Every death didn't felt forced, it was built up to happen. In episode 1, you… more learn of Larry's heart condition, so it didn't felt forced when he had his heart attack in episode 2. By talking with Katja, you learned she is a mother who deeply loves her son. So it didn't felt forced when she commit suicide. Carley's death didn't felt forced, because she was a person who protect those she cares about and she died because of that. Even Chuck's death didn't felt forced, because he has been separated from the group because he saved Clementine and being alone, hunted by walkers and an unfamiliar city, his death was plausible.
Most of the Cabin Group doesn't have any build up for their death in Season 2. Their deaths happens quite fast. You can argue that the chaos of the events killed them and there was simply no time to get to know them better. But they still could have handled some … [view original content]
I didn't meant it like that and I never said that I everyone should be safe. I agree that people can die for no reasons and not everyone get to die in a heroic way. But shouldn't the characters' death have more impact on the story, the group and on me? I am saying that the deaths in Season 1 was handled well and effected me because I cared about them. Some character deaths in Season 2 effected me such as Luke and Kenny, but don't you agree that Sarita's, Nick's and Sarah's death could have been handled better?
So what, the only people who can die are the ones who have told you "I will die this way and it will be meaningful because I want it"? That's bullshit. Sometimes you have to have someone who no one wants to see gone die for no reason.
Even the writers of Amid The Ruins took joy in the horrible death of an innocent girl. It's just so sad that people enjoyed her death and ho… morew painful it was. It's ironic to, because that's how Clementine was once upon a time and for some reason people wanted Sarah dead just because she was irritating and the writers of Amid The Ruins decided to give her the most awful fate she could have.
Aw, you had me until that question. No, I don't think those deaths could have been better. They're consistent with the universe. Did you know that Kirkman plans out some deaths long in advance to have resolution
Glenn, Dale, Lori
and others he just chooses arbitrarily? There is no grand scheme here. If Nick, Sarah and Sarita had got perfectly telegraphed and character appropriate deaths, it wouldn't be The Walking Dead.
I didn't meant it like that and I never said that I everyone should be safe. I agree that people can die for no reasons and not everyone get… more to die in a heroic way. But shouldn't the characters' death have more impact on the story, the group and on me? I am saying that the deaths in Season 1 was handled well and effected me because I cared about them. Some character deaths in Season 2 effected me such as Luke and Kenny, but don't you agree that Sarita's, Nick's and Sarah's death could have been handled better?
I do know that. I respect your opinion regarding how you feel about the Nick's, Sarah's and Sarita's death. It is a shame that we'll never got more time to know them better.
Aw, you had me until that question. No, I don't think those deaths could have been better. They're consistent with the universe. Did you kno… morew that Kirkman plans out some deaths long in advance to have resolution
(Spoiler)
and others he just chooses arbitrarily? There is no grand scheme here. If Nick, Sarah and Sarita had got perfectly telegraphed and character appropriate deaths, it wouldn't be The Walking Dead.
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I should probably agree with this. Telltale writes better material than season 2, which I liked but don't think it was their best. Maybe if they shake up the formula, they can discover something richer in the premise than what we've seen already from the comic repeated endlessly.
The Character Writing/Development in this Season was quite bad...
But, the writing in terms of 'Themes' in the Season was very clever.
well it is definitely not genius writing but it also all isn't cheap shock factor i would say it is someone in-between
I'm still thinking about Nick and Sarah...
people weren't thinking about the finale, they were thinking about Nick/Sarah deaths.
Both
And that's just my opinion.
And that's my opinion on your opinion. :S
Season 2 on it's own may make it seem like the devs didn't have a whole lot of experience with good writing, but compare it to Season 1 and it's dreadful. Sarah dies a pointless death just so there's less dead weight for the group to drag, then the writers add it again with AJ. Make up your minds! Do you want it too be hard or not? And nobody except Jane and Clementine even acknowledge her death. The others act like she never existed! And what about Alvin? So the baby that we might never see again never get's to meet his parents? And Nick, nothing changed in either scenario. It had no value and the group had shrugged it off completely. And what about Walter and Matthew? A gay couple could have a been a refresher from the others who are either straight or apparently asexual. But they had no purpose to die other than for the writers to have less characters to develop.
Sorry about the rant, but it had to be said.
Right.
Everything we say is an opinion.
I never cry for anything, But i cried when Clem left Lee dying, and I cried when Kenny left Clem at Wellington, moving on alone, i was loyal to Kenny in Season 1, and despite all ods, i was Loyal to Kenny in season 2. And The only way to make it to Wellington and be saved from the horrors of the world, is by sticking with Kenny to the End. Only 16% of everyone who completed season 2, came to Wellington. Im not Saying that Kenny was right to kill Jane. But Jane was no better herself. And my loyality to Kenny is unquestionable. And in the End it pays of. Clem is Saved.
Why is everyone so obsessed with, who dies, and who survives? Thats not what the story is about, at all! Its about Clems life in a Cold merciless world. And i Hope we follow Clem as a teenager in season 3.
Master of Aeons, you seem to know what the Walking Dead is about, In the Walking dead, everything that is good dies, thats just how it is. And is something good happens, its just to push you further into the dirt next time something evil happens. The walking dead is probably one of the Most evil Universes, i ever encountered. And i like it
U all remember how Rick's boy had to kill his own mother in the TV series? Pretty evil. Thats just how all Walking dead scripts are written, Its not Telltales Fault. Its just how this Universe is. Brutal And relentless. If you should complain about the Writing in general, you should tell ike to Kirkman, he is the guy with the last saying in all of this. Keep up the Great Stories Kirkman and Telltale 
You made on eof the Best games and i have ever played. Only good for one or two playthroughs though. Since after that, you know to well what happens. I i had to say something bad about the game, i would say: "This game is tailored after how you play" Is a load of bullshit. Its always the same story, and nothing really changes in the end. Maybe in season 2. but nothing much really.
I think Carleys death was pointless. Or atlest give me the option to kill Lilly right after. i hate Lilly, she is such a cunt. Her father was worse, but atlest i splatter his head.
Agreed with Bokor. It may have been convenient at the time to randomly switch the Luke and Kenny power struggle with Jane and Kenny because it shocks viewers because no one expects it, but when you look at the Season as a whole, it really messes up everything consistency wise. I blame the dudes who wrote Ep. 3 and 4. Nick Breckon who wrote Ep. 1 and 2 had some really nice things going and when he wrote Ep. 5, all his threads were gone because the Cabin Group were all dead in pointless manners, leaving him no choice but to create something completely different.
Although Season 1 had the best writing, season 2 had a better gameplay. both games 9/10 stars.
I agree. Season 1's deaths were great in changing characters and affecting the story nicely. Season 2 was a mess of inconsistencies and misery.
U dont get it. Luke was too good to live. Thats just how it is the THe walking dead. All that is good, dies. Just like Christa, Omid and Lee. All good people. All dead.
I think it was SO awesome to see Kenny again in season 2, It made me SO happy. And Clem
Lee. Kenny And Clem are the Only characters i care about, and i care about them alot!
I personally think Carley's death showed how instability and paranoia had led Lilly to the brink of insanity. Not to mention Kenny smashing Larry's head, there was also a traitor in the midst and she hardly had any support in anything she elected to do. Carley was kind of stupid in provoking Lilly like that when she even knows that Lilly is unstable. Carley calling Lilly a bitch was dumb.
I love how in the Corner it says. She/he will remeber that. Then 5 seconds later they die. Hilarious!
Yes, but the thing about Season 1 is that even though everything plain sucked, there was still hope. Hope in the form of a little girl who we had to protect. As long as that little girl was alive, there was still hope for Lee Everett. Season 1 really showed me personally that it is possible in the Zombie Apocalypse to kill off characters and make me care for them. The characters in Season 1 were very well developed and each death felt like a punch to the gut and advanced the storyline while influencing others. Season 2 in my opinion was a very large step back in terms of quality and it felt very lazily though out especially after Kenny came back. Yes Season 1 set the bar really high, but that doesn't mean that you don't try to develop characters and don't try to do what made you great in the first place. Telltale missed a golden opportunity in elevating the zombie genre into something that mattered more than "Clementine goes somewhere, then everyone dies"
That's because Season 2 is all about Kenny.
Just lazily written.
Agreed. Telltale missed a golden opportunity in changing the zombie genre. They could have given Clementine some modicum of hope with at least one of the Cabin Group surivving, but nope! It's the zombie apocalypse so everyone has to die except Clementine!
It's pretty true.
Luke's death stands out to me as being the most honest of the group. Everyone wants to save him and they give you like twenty ways to react. You can fight really hard to save him and it will never matter. That's exactly how this world "works". All you can do is watch as everything inevitably falls apart and try and tell yourself "I won't let anyone get that close to me anymore. I've learned my lesson."
Well I dunno.Sarah was obviously there to die because autistic people won't survive less than 2 years in a ZA according to telltales episode 4 writers.sarita and nick were just...there...and hell,we didn't get much character development from clementine this season, and she was the main character!
Sarah was there to see if people were cold enough to really abandon a helpless child in favor of doing the "smart" thing. And the fucked up thing is not only did some people make that choice, some were eager and giddy to do so.
The Walking Dead is supposed to make you feel bad about turning into a monster, not be a power trip for assholes.
I feel that the character death in Season 1 was handled better. Every death didn't felt forced, it was built up to happen. In episode 1, you learn of Larry's heart condition, so it didn't felt forced when he had his heart attack in episode 2. By talking with Katja, you learned she is a mother who deeply loves her son. So it didn't felt forced when she commit suicide. Carley's death didn't felt forced, because she was a person who protect those she cares about and she died because of that. Even Chuck's death didn't felt forced, because he has been separated from the group because he saved Clementine and being alone, hunted by walkers and an unfamiliar city, his death was plausible.
Most of the Cabin Group doesn't have any build up for their death in Season 2. Their deaths happens quite fast. You can argue that the chaos of the events killed them and there was simply no time to get to know them better. But they still could have handled some character deaths better. Sarita, Nick and Sarah's death was handled quite badly. There wasn't any proper built up for their deaths and their death doesn't have a noticeable impact on the story or the group.
So...I have to say cheap shock value.
I hope Telltale improves on the next season.
I just don't think any death needs to be meaningful at all.. It's a zombie apocalypse and shit will happen to anyone at any time. If every death were written to have meaning or go out in a blaze of glory, then that would make the entire story seem un-realistic.
Like Christa, we never saw what her fate was.. Many people want to know. Truth is, things will happen that no one can stop or alter and we may never know their fate. Same with Lilly.
We can all mourn the losses and wonder what happened or blame ourselves for making a choice that may have caused their death or depature and be left wondering what happened but we'll never get that answer or closure. Yeah it may suck, but it's realistic.
I guess I just take what Telltale has created and play it as it comes and not really disect every senerio into what I think it should have been or what others say they would prefer.
I can respect anyones opinions even though I really don't agree that it's bad writing. Just because you feel a characters death was bad because you liked the character doesnt make it true.
Even the writers of Amid The Ruins took joy in the horrible death of an innocent girl. It's just so sad that people enjoyed her death and how painful it was. It's ironic to, because that's how Clementine was once upon a time and for some reason people wanted Sarah dead just because she was irritating and the writers of Amid The Ruins decided to give her the most awful fate she could have.
Okay. But consider this. Every Season 1 death did something to the story. No one went out in a "blaze of glory" and each death made sense. And how can a story sound unrealistic when we are talking about zombies, a fictional idea in pop culture? Season 1 did an amazing job tying up loose ends and it felt complete while Season 2 started many ideas and threads between characters but never resolved it.
While it is a zombie apocalypse based off Robert Kirkman's world where characters come and go between the pages, Telltale did something amazing with Season 1 in creating a world of zombies where the characters truly starred in an ensemble cast and each character felt like a distinct person. Season 2 lost that great consistency and characterization in the middle of the Season that I loved about Telltale's Walking Dead Game and it sunk back from extraordinary to just decent.
So what, the only people who can die are the ones who have told you "I will die this way and it will be meaningful because I want it"? That's bullshit. Sometimes you have to have someone who no one wants to see gone die for no reason.
I didn't meant it like that and I never said that I everyone should be safe. I agree that people can die for no reasons and not everyone get to die in a heroic way. But shouldn't the characters' death have more impact on the story, the group and on me? I am saying that the deaths in Season 1 was handled well and effected me because I cared about them. Some character deaths in Season 2 effected me such as Luke and Kenny, but don't you agree that Sarita's, Nick's and Sarah's death could have been handled better?
Citation needed.
Aw, you had me until that question. No, I don't think those deaths could have been better. They're consistent with the universe. Did you know that Kirkman plans out some deaths long in advance to have resolution
I do know that. I respect your opinion regarding how you feel about the Nick's, Sarah's and Sarita's death. It is a shame that we'll never got more time to know them better.