How I would've ended this Season (Very Dark)
MrX1H2
Banned
Just picture this. Everything that happened in Episode 5 stays the same except the Jane and Kenny fight. The baby is actually dead and was eaten when Jane was overwhelmed by walkers. The fight commences. Clementine tries to stop the fight and when is pushed away her gun falls to the ground. When Jane and Kenny are on the ground both try to grab hold of the gun. In doing so they accidentally pull the trigger and the bullet hits Clementine. Jane and Kenny race over to Clementine and says her final words to them before dying in their arms. The screen goes to black. In the epilogue Jane and Kenny are seen resting in the countryside talking about things they have done and regret. In the end they forgive each other. The last scene is Kenny and Jane walking and fading into the sunset. Game ends. Credits roll : Oh My Darling Clementine
Anyways, what do you think? I think this would've been a much better ending and fit the darkness of The Walking Dead universe.
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I definitely think one would have killed the other, there's no way they would have forgiven each other.
more likely they both end up dead, from a fight to the death.
Yeah, that too :P
I love that idea, it would have been really imotional in my opinion, but I would have Kenny and Jane kill each other, and then the song rolls.
Nah, they forgive each other and then fall in love and make lovely babies which they name Clementine 1, 2 & 3. Clementine 3 is main character of Season 3. ^^
Got to admit, this seems to be where this idea is leading.
As Jane turns her back, about to walk away (In which Kenny would follow her after grieving on Clem's death) but then Kenny stabbed her on the back and grins maniaclly.
Kenny then stares at the camera and the screen cuts black.
You managed to create an ending worse than the jane and alone endings, bravo.
Meh.
Sure, it would be emotional at all, but having Clem´s death be nothing but shock value could be crossing the line-even for Telltale. Also, that neither Kenny or Jane could consider the possibility that the gun could accidentaly discharge and kill Clem is just plain unbeliable. Also, what about, Clem? Does she just sit there, not even considering the possibility of a accidental discharge?
Much worse than the 3 endings combined?
Well you're not a nice guy are you?
Very canon. Much story. Ending Wow.
Clementine never considered that her gunshot would open during the fight/ The fight wouldl go too far causing you to choose between one of them.
I think its pretty believable. When two people are desperately trying to kill each other they don't tend to be that aware of their surroundings. When Clem falls her bullet wound would open up leaving her helpless on the ground in pain leaving her entirely in the open to get hit. I don't think Clem's death would be shock value. I think It would be a great and emotional scene no one was expecting.
LMAO!!! I didn't even think about it like that. Although it would make sense for them to name their babies that since their both obsessed with Clementine.
CLEMENTINE 3 CONFIRMED AS PC FOR SEASON 3!!!
Yikes...even that's too dark for me. However I would've ended that with Kenny laughing maniacally like this
wow so dark wow such sad ending
Seriously, I see nothing valuable here. I like the Season 2 endings and I don't want to change anything.
I can see him doing that actually as I'm sure he'd blame her for what happened and go into an even bigger rage then he already was.
That's cool, but I've already convinced myself everything that happened after Clem gets bitten by a dog was just part of a dying dream brought on by a combination of malnutrition, blood loss, and the infected gash on her arm. Hence the plot holes, inconsistencies, and general directionless feeling, it's Clem's mind slowly coming to terms with the fact she's dying. Kenny, Luke and Jane are all just delusions representing her deep seated desire to be saved from death somehow with their conflict and deaths representing Clem's own conflict in trying to find any kind of hope to cling too in her final hours. The alone ending shows Clem having a moment of clarity when she realizes she was never in control of her own fate and that she was just a young, kind soul doomed to be lost in the sea of the dead.
That's my take. =P
I never said the the Season 2 endings were bad and needed changing. I just felt that this ending would have been better in my opinion.
Oh come come. Clementine would have walked that bullet wound off as easily as she did the first one? You remember? When she got shot in the chest. You probably don't, because it didn't really matter at all anyways.
Jesus, that's fucking dark. Good theory.
That would be rather dark, but a fitting ending.
However, I don't think Kenny and Jane would just become friends and go off together after that incident. The only thing that kept them together was Clementine, and if she's gone...
Anyway, I believe instead of the ending with Jane and Kenny chilling out, it should show Kenny and Jane right after Clem gets shot, shock seeping into their eyes, before turning to each other, (as they blame the other for Clem's death) hatred burning deep within them.
And then the game would end right there.
Or they could either start fighting or split up or decide to stick together based on your previous choices and conversations involving them.
Jesus, Scarily that might be how Clem will die if she ever does (I hope not
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It's alright, but a little cheesy.
You should remove that, so cringe worthy.
What? Why? You don't think this ending is dark enough?
I actually had this whole analysis on how the characters are all just aspects of Clementine's psyche and memories before finally falling apart in No Going Back. It kinda lost in another thread between the conversations I was having with a couple of people so if you don't mind, I'll repost it here.
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And building from this I think you can interpret more minor characters as smaller fragments of Clem's mind. Walter represents Lee's dual nature of being wise and generous in one instance, then angry and vindictive in the next. Mike is a crude recollection of Lee's appearance, who eventually leaves Clem behind. Matthew is a stand in for Carley and Doug. Someone friendly and helpful who came out of nowhere, only to be senselessly cut down right in front of her. Arvo and the Russians a warped version of herself and the original group brought on by her disapproval of robbing the station wagon, seeing them as thieving monsters in this instance who push a child into being complacent with their misdeed.
I could go on, but you get the idea.
Pretty dark indeed but I don't think they would forgive each other. Kenny would find some way to blame it on Jane and vice versa. At least in my eyes.
No, labeling the title as "dark" makes me cringe. But that's just me.
It is a nice idea but I have to say that I would've been very disappointed if season 2 had ended with Clem's death. It would've meant that we spent the whole season shaping her personality, making difficult decisions , for nothing. It also would've been repetitive to kill the main character once again.
But when Jane and Kenny were fighting, there is one moment where I thought that something like that could happen. It's when Clem can go between them and can try to make one of them stop. I thought that Jane, while charging Kenny, could've unintentionally stabbed Clem.That's why I didn't chose that option.
Clementine dying?
God this is so much better than the literal version given. Horrifically sad because it means my darling Clementine has not only died, but died alone in the woods. She doesn't like the woods
EDIT: PS. You should create a thread solely for telling the forum about this take on the game. I know there are many people who didn't like S2 that may find this more bearable. This cool idea runs the risk of being lost in sea of replies.
In Season 3, Jane suddenly has a foreign accent for no reason and dies in front of Kenny while he angsts about it, too.
Are you getting this down, Telltale?
Damn... the feels...
But Jane and Kenny would probably kill each other after shooting Clem by accident...
This is gold!
Telltale: What? We can't hear you with all this money in our ears!
I might do that later, I'm actually thinking of more to add to the theory. Like Luke (her ideal fantasy hero) sleeping with Jane (a possible idealized version of herself) would be Clementine's largely dormant sex drive. She has a general idea of what she'd find attractive, but no understanding of why, nor any actual urges yet since she hasn't hit puberty. As such, her possible fantasy with a dashing hero remains unseen because she had no idea what it would actually encompass, other than "kissing stuff".
As for this theory being sad, it just depends on you look at it really. Everyone dies eventually, and if S2 was Clementine coming to terms with that, it can also be seen as her actually coming to peace with that fact. The progression through the story is her going through the five stages of grief.
From Luke and Pete finding her in the woods to meeting Kenny is clearly denial, obviously. Someone just happens to find her in the middle of the woods, then someone almost certainly dead comes back to her. She refuses to think she's dead and that everything is just going to work out.
From Carver's introduction to his demise is anger. Carver crashes the lodge and ruins everything, symbolizing the transition from denial to angry. This segment is largely Clem's revenge fantasy against all the horrible people in the world that have caused her life to be so miserable. The St. Johns, The Bandits, The Stranger, The Girl who robbed her, the men in the woods who kill Christa. Her desperate desire to see the terrible people of the world punished.
Amid the Ruins to the beginning of No Going Back is bargaining. Doing mental inventory of what she should have done or could have done. Jane's sudden dismissal of Sarah might be Clem rationalizing that she can survive if she just let's go of the part of her who still wants to just be a girl. The part of her that cares for other people, and hates to see others get hurt. Likely wondering if she acted more ruthless would she survive. You also have Arvo and the Russians, and weighing of robbing someone or being robbed, and thinking if she had just done this or that things would be different.
Most of the remaining parts of No Going Back would fit into depression. Jane, Kenny, and Luke all reminisce about people they've lost, before unraveling themselves. Everything is cold and covered in snow, there's no signs of hope anywhere in sight, and it seems everyone is turning on Clem or just leaving her, or in Luke's case, taken from her. Being shot and thinking of Lee is Clem wanting to die and have the nightmare stop. The fight between Kenny and Jane her delusions breaking down, like I previously said. And the endings with them would be Clementine just clinging to one of them in her last moments of life.
But if she's alone with AJ, I see that as her reaching the fifth stage, acceptance. She knows no one will save her, and she will die, and she accepts that. Her carrying AJ into the herd is symbolic of reclaiming her own soul from the despair of the world. It takes her life, but not who she is. She lived a short life, but as who she wanted to be. An innocent and kind person who brought some happiness into a dire world. She didn't become a Jane or a Kenny, someone cold or cruel, she remained Clementine. She stared down all the horrors the world could throw at her and all though it eventually killed her, it did not change her. And she can die happy knowing that. That no matter what, she'll die the same person who made her parents proud and made Lee so happy. And not a shell of her former self.
Her coming to grips with her death doesn't make it any less sad in my honest opinion. Lee's death was sad and not only had he come to grips with his demise he also had left something precious in his wake. This theory is dreadfully sad to me because the target of my aspirations via S1 is in fact now dead, and died alone and in a place she found scary. That doesn't mean it isn't a good ending. Just extremely depressing. You said that everyone dies, and that's true, but most get the chance to learn and love and everything else that comes with having a life in the first place. Something she doesn't get.
Well that actually might be why I found this crazy theory less depressing, there is VERY little loving of anything for Clementine in this season and the learning is mostly how to kill things better. For me it's less bleak and depressing to think she's accepts her death, savoring the time she did get and realizes she won't have to suffer anymore, instead of trudging on forever as some hollow shell of her former self who mostly just marches from one place to another waiting for something to do. =/