To be fair Clem didn't have time and Arvo wouldn't listen, he would just freak out. It's also true that Kenny's treatment of Arvo was...what's the word...overzealous.
You know I absolutely despise Kenny right? And he was just saying that because he would probably die from all the gun fire, why would he bring his group there if he was so innocent?
"Everyone, put your guns down"
I have evidence, and I also have evidence that Kenny can be a real piece of shit.
You Kenny fanatics ar… moree all just exaggerating.
If Arvo was the complete "spawn of the devil" like you fanatics keep claiming, then he would have shot Clem without hesitation on the observation deck, but he doesn't.
The only reason as to why he shot Clem was.....
The writing staff are too afraid to make Kenny look like an ass, so they make Arvo look l… moreike an ass.
Or
Arvo shot Clem because Kenny was constantly beating him to death and insulting him aggressively after his sister got killed and so he finally snapped.
Arvo going after the gang because of the supplies was simply a forced situation to give Episode 4 a climax, and besides Arvo didn't want anyone to get killed and he didn't even have a gun, he was not at all wanting people to die.
This is what happens when children become so in love with a character to the point where they are completely blinded by their love, so they can't think logically or even actually think about other people.
To be fair Clem didn't have time and Arvo wouldn't listen, he would just freak out. It's also true that Kenny's treatment of Arvo was...what's the word...overzealous.
If you steal the supplies, Arvo coming for you makes sense, but if you don't, it doesn't make sense, Arvo's behavior if you don't steal the supplies has more to do with how messy the writing has been in S2, and besides Arvo was not at all comfortable with the situation and Buricko was the one who shot first, I actually saw some humanity in Arvo after the shootout, and he was basically Ben in that scenario, a kid being held hostage that didn't want to hurt anyone, he was just someone who lost alot and then finally snapped because of an angry old man
You know I absolutely despise Kenny right? And he was just saying that because he would probably die from all the gun fire, why would he bring his group there if he was so innocent?
Arvo
-hides drugs from his group and makes up a bullshit story about his sister
-comes back and robs you even if you didnt take the dr… moreugs.
-runs through the lake in order to make people run for a chance of breaking the ice
-shoots you
And people defend that.
This is what happens when children become so in love with their tumblr taught brainwash.
How the hell are you going to call somebody who has abused Clem a hero? How are you going to call somebody who would put his rage before the safety of his loved ones a hero?
Yes he is a hero although not on the same level as Lee. People who sympathize with Arvo need to grow up and get a reality check. That piece of shit deserved a lof more than what he already got.
Arvo
-hides drugs from his group and makes up a bullshit story about his sister
-comes back and robs you even if you didnt take the dr… moreugs.
-runs through the lake in order to make people run for a chance of breaking the ice
-shoots you
And people defend that.
This is what happens when children become so in love with their tumblr taught brainwash.
I'm not sure if this is true, but according to the wiki (which ANYONE can edit) there were unused audio files that were translated from Russian that indicated that Natasha had a disease named "Sickle Cell Anemia"
In "Amid The Ruins", Arvo claims that Natasha needs medicine suggesting that she's ill or that she has a medical condition. The authenticity of this claim is never revealed, though according to unused audio clips translated from Russian, she did have a disease like Arvo had claimed, known as sickle cell anemia. It is unknown if Arvo suffered from this too and used painkillers as well.
Arvo
Telltale forgot.
Telltale screwed up.
Most likely was running away from the walkers or Kenny.
Shoots you, because Telltale … morelove Kenny and want to make him look right, even though it's basically Arvo snapping becuase of Kenny being overzealous.
I don't use tumblr, and Kenny fanatics are the worst.
How the hell are you going to call somebody who has abused Clem a hero? How are you going to call somebody who would put his rage before the safety of his loved ones a hero?
you don't steal the supplies has more to do with how messy the writing has been in S2
Can you please come up with an excuse better than "bad writing"? Because I could still argue that it makes sense that he would want to kill them for humiliating him by threatening him, and Jane takes his gun as well.
If you steal the supplies, Arvo coming for you makes sense, but if you don't, it doesn't make sense, Arvo's behavior if you don't steal the … moresupplies has more to do with how messy the writing has been in S2, and besides Arvo was not at all comfortable with the situation and Buricko was the one who shot first, I actually saw some humanity in Arvo after the shootout, and he was basically Ben in that scenario, a kid being held hostage that didn't want to hurt anyone, he was just someone who lost alot and then finally snapped because of an angry old man
How the hell are you going to call somebody who has abused Clem a hero? How are you going to call somebody who would put his rage before the safety of his loved ones a hero?
How the hell are you going to call somebody who has abused Clem a hero?
when did he abuse Clem?
How are you going to call some… morebody who would put his rage before the safety of his loved ones a hero?
when was he ever wrong about anyone this season?
you don't steal the supplies has more to do with how messy the writing has been in S2
Can you please come up with an excuse better t… morehan "bad writing"? Because I could still argue that it makes sense that he would want to kill them for humiliating him by threatening him, and Jane takes his gun as well.
No, you constantly claiming Kenny is the best thing in this game and acting like he has no flaws and is 100% right and is a hero when he's far from it and claiming everyone who disagrees is an idiot seems pretty damn biased and a tad bit delusional.
Well, that probably is the case, but he's not 100% evil at all and he had no intention of killing them, that's just you exaggerating. I don't see Arvo taking pleasure in that scene where Clem and group are being held at gunpoint, he had a nervous and scared look on his face, that tells me he was more of a victim who was forced to be put in that situation.
I'm not exaggerating at all, I genuinely believed that he wanted to kill them. i didn't even steal from him yet he brought his people. If he didn't want to kill them he wouldn't have told his people about what went down on the deck and they wouldn't have attacked Clem's group.
Well, that probably is the case, but he's not 100% evil at all and he had no intention of killing them, that's just you exaggerating. I don'… moret see Arvo taking pleasure in that scene where Clem and group are being held at gunpoint, he had a nervous and scared look on his face, that tells me he was more of a victim who was forced to be put in that situation.
he had no intention of killing them
I'm not exaggerating at all, I genuinely believed that he wanted to kill them. i didn't even ste… moreal from him yet he brought his people. If he didn't want to kill them he wouldn't have told his people about what went down on the deck and they wouldn't have attacked Clem's group.
I am grown up and I still think its wrong for a forty-something year old man to beat a teenage boy who is ALREADY BOUND AND HELPLESS. You wouldn't think anyone else deserved that.
Yes he is a hero although not on the same level as Lee. People who sympathize with Arvo need to grow up and get a reality check. That piece of shit deserved a lof more than what he already got.
I don't want to get involved but isn't stealing just bad in general? Not everything is black and white but this action was clearly meant to harm the group.
I don't want to get involved but isn't stealing just bad in general? Not everything is black and white but this action was clearly meant to harm the group.
But it was a choice to take from him, even if Jane take's the gun Arvo doesn't even bring it up once he interacts with the group. He clearly knew what he was doing, all he wanted was to take from the group.
In episode 5 if you translate the Russian dialogue the other two Russian's are talking about the medicine and claimed that Clem's group took it even if you didn't, this proves that Arvo more than likely hid the supplies from his group and used Clem's as an scapegoat, for his own selfish desires.
Maybe, but I still don't think Arvo is 100% evil, an who knows, maybe Buricko forced Arvo to be in that situation when he found out, we're not given much.
But it was a choice to take from him, even if Jane take's the gun Arvo doesn't even bring it up once he interacts with the group. He clearly… more knew what he was doing, all he wanted was to take from the group.
In episode 5 if you translate the Russian dialogue the other two Russian's are talking about the medicine and claimed that Clem's group took it even if you didn't, this proves that Arvo more than likely hid the supplies from his group and used Clem's as an scapegoat, for his own selfish desires.
Maybe, but I still don't think Arvo is 100% evil, an who knows, maybe Buricko forced Arvo to be in that situation when he found out, we're not given much.
I don't know, he was trying desperately to revive his sister, and he was incredibly sad and distraught when she died, so I don't think he's really that selfish.
Yes he is a hero although not on the same level as Lee. People who sympathize with Arvo need to grow up and get a reality check. That piece of shit deserved a lof more than what he already got.
Finally someone who gets it.
deserved a lof more
No torture / harassment / harm or anything, but they just should've let him go after they found the food. and ofc, been smarter about the route they were taking.
Yes he is a hero although not on the same level as Lee. People who sympathize with Arvo need to grow up and get a reality check. That piece of shit deserved a lof more than what he already got.
He gave Clementine the evil eye remember? He thought that SHE killed his sister, he thought that she was still alive when she came back from the dead.
and he didn't even have a gun,
Was taken away by Jane.
so they can't think logically or even actually think about other people.
People should've threated Arvo as a human being, Yes. They shouldn't condone the harsh threatment of Kenny, but they also shouldn't trust Arvo whatsoever. Kenny fucked it all up, that's what im basically saying.
The only reason as to why he shot Clem was.....
The writing staff are too afraid to make Kenny look like an ass, so they make Arvo look l… moreike an ass.
Or
Arvo shot Clem because Kenny was constantly beating him to death and insulting him aggressively after his sister got killed and so he finally snapped.
Arvo going after the gang because of the supplies was simply a forced situation to give Episode 4 a climax, and besides Arvo didn't want anyone to get killed and he didn't even have a gun, he was not at all wanting people to die.
This is what happens when children become so in love with a character to the point where they are completely blinded by their love, so they can't think logically or even actually think about other people.
Most likely was running away from the walkers or Kenny.
He probably knew about the ice in the first place. and he didn't run away from Kenny, he might've tried to escape but Kenny wasn't chasing him before he was running away.
Shoots you, because Telltale love Kenny and want to make him look right, even though it's basically Arvo snapping becuase of Kenny being overzealous.
That's not completely true, first of all you need to be real. Telltalegames is a company. In order to make profit, they also need to listen to their community/ fans. In a interview they said that people wanted Kenny back, and so they did. They don't "love" him. they even gave you the chance to decide whether to stay with him or not. Arvo shot Clementine because he thought that his sister was still alive after she moved to Clementine. He gave Clementine the evil eye, shouted "noo" it's all clear.
Arvo
Telltale forgot.
Telltale screwed up.
Most likely was running away from the walkers or Kenny.
Shoots you, because Telltale … morelove Kenny and want to make him look right, even though it's basically Arvo snapping becuase of Kenny being overzealous.
I don't use tumblr, and Kenny fanatics are the worst.
then he would have shot Clem without hesitation on the observation deck, but he doesn't.
We aren't talking about that: "Arvo is pure evil!", Arvo shot Clementine because he thought that she killed his sister. We all don't like Arvo because of his mysterious attitude, and probably his 'plans' that might be revealed in season 3.
"Everyone, put your guns down"
I have evidence, and I also have evidence that Kenny can be a real piece of shit.
You Kenny fanatics ar… moree all just exaggerating.
If Arvo was the complete "spawn of the devil" like you fanatics keep claiming, then he would have shot Clem without hesitation on the observation deck, but he doesn't.
Well, that probably is the case, but he's not 100% evil at all and he had no intention of killing them, that's just you exaggerating. I don'… moret see Arvo taking pleasure in that scene where Clem and group are being held at gunpoint, he had a nervous and scared look on his face, that tells me he was more of a victim who was forced to be put in that situation.
J-Master, you have been blinded by emotions. You need to keep in mind that Arvo is not to be trusted. He was mysterious when Jane and Clementine caught him hiding meds. and he still is.
I don't know, he was trying desperately to revive his sister, and he was incredibly sad and distraught when she died, so I don't think he's really that selfish.
Maybe abuse wasn't the word I was looking for, but Kenny has treated Clem horribly in some instances.
"when was he ever wrong about anyone this season?"
I don't understand your question or how it's relevant to what you quoted in my post.
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To be fair Clem didn't have time and Arvo wouldn't listen, he would just freak out. It's also true that Kenny's treatment of Arvo was...what's the word...overzealous.
You know I absolutely despise Kenny right? And he was just saying that because he would probably die from all the gun fire, why would he bring his group there if he was so innocent?
Arvo
-hides drugs from his group and makes up a bullshit story about his sister
-comes back and robs you even if you didnt take the drugs.
-runs through the lake in order to make people run for a chance of breaking the ice
-shoots you
And people defend that.
This is what happens when children become so in love with their tumblr taught brainwash.
If it means he'll slap the shit out of him, then yeah.
If you steal the supplies, Arvo coming for you makes sense, but if you don't, it doesn't make sense, Arvo's behavior if you don't steal the supplies has more to do with how messy the writing has been in S2, and besides Arvo was not at all comfortable with the situation and Buricko was the one who shot first, I actually saw some humanity in Arvo after the shootout, and he was basically Ben in that scenario, a kid being held hostage that didn't want to hurt anyone, he was just someone who lost alot and then finally snapped because of an angry old man
Arvo
Telltale forgot.
Telltale screwed up.
Most likely was running away from the walkers or Kenny.
Shoots you, because Telltale love Kenny and want to make him look right, even though it's basically Arvo snapping becuase of Kenny being overzealous.
I don't use tumblr, and Kenny fanatics are the worst.
How the hell are you going to call somebody who has abused Clem a hero? How are you going to call somebody who would put his rage before the safety of his loved ones a hero?
Kenny did more than slap :P
Actually his sister was sick.
Maybe she was sick, maybe she wasn't, we're not given much of anything because Telltale totally forgot about that.
I'm not sure if this is true, but according to the wiki (which ANYONE can edit) there were unused audio files that were translated from Russian that indicated that Natasha had a disease named "Sickle Cell Anemia"
In "Amid The Ruins", Arvo claims that Natasha needs medicine suggesting that she's ill or that she has a medical condition. The authenticity of this claim is never revealed, though according to unused audio clips translated from Russian, she did have a disease like Arvo had claimed, known as sickle cell anemia. It is unknown if Arvo suffered from this too and used painkillers as well.
I think I remember Telltale say she had like some cell disease or something, I might be wrong so don't quote me on that.
This is what being blind and delusional is like.
when did he abuse Clem?
when was he ever wrong about anyone this season?
Can you please come up with an excuse better than "bad writing"? Because I could still argue that it makes sense that he would want to kill them for humiliating him by threatening him, and Jane takes his gun as well.
I'm not a Kenny fan, but he never abused Clem.
Maybe abuse wasn't the word I was looking for, but Kenny has treated Clem horribly in some instances.
"when was he ever wrong about anyone this season?"
I don't understand your question or how it's relevant to what you quoted in my post.
The whole bad writing excuse comes up because the other user has nothing else to back themselves up with.
Yup.
No, you constantly claiming Kenny is the best thing in this game and acting like he has no flaws and is 100% right and is a hero when he's far from it and claiming everyone who disagrees is an idiot seems pretty damn biased and a tad bit delusional.
Well, that probably is the case, but he's not 100% evil at all and he had no intention of killing them, that's just you exaggerating. I don't see Arvo taking pleasure in that scene where Clem and group are being held at gunpoint, he had a nervous and scared look on his face, that tells me he was more of a victim who was forced to be put in that situation.
I'm not exaggerating at all, I genuinely believed that he wanted to kill them. i didn't even steal from him yet he brought his people. If he didn't want to kill them he wouldn't have told his people about what went down on the deck and they wouldn't have attacked Clem's group.
He just said, they were just going to TAKE their supplies, not kill them, it's not black and white.
I am grown up and I still think its wrong for a forty-something year old man to beat a teenage boy who is ALREADY BOUND AND HELPLESS. You wouldn't think anyone else deserved that.
I don't want to get involved but isn't stealing just bad in general? Not everything is black and white but this action was clearly meant to harm the group.
Stealing is bad, unless you're in the apocalypse and the same person steals from you, eye for an eye, I suppose
But it was a choice to take from him, even if Jane take's the gun Arvo doesn't even bring it up once he interacts with the group. He clearly knew what he was doing, all he wanted was to take from the group.
In episode 5 if you translate the Russian dialogue the other two Russian's are talking about the medicine and claimed that Clem's group took it even if you didn't, this proves that Arvo more than likely hid the supplies from his group and used Clem's as an scapegoat, for his own selfish desires.
Maybe, but I still don't think Arvo is 100% evil, an who knows, maybe Buricko forced Arvo to be in that situation when he found out, we're not given much.
I don't think he's absolutely evil, but he's definitely completely selfish for willing to risk other people's lives for his own desires.
I don't know, he was trying desperately to revive his sister, and he was incredibly sad and distraught when she died, so I don't think he's really that selfish.
Finally someone who gets it.
No torture / harassment / harm or anything, but they just should've let him go after they found the food. and ofc, been smarter about the route they were taking.
He gave Clementine the evil eye remember? He thought that SHE killed his sister, he thought that she was still alive when she came back from the dead.
Was taken away by Jane.
People should've threated Arvo as a human being, Yes. They shouldn't condone the harsh threatment of Kenny, but they also shouldn't trust Arvo whatsoever. Kenny fucked it all up, that's what im basically saying.
He probably knew about the ice in the first place. and he didn't run away from Kenny, he might've tried to escape but Kenny wasn't chasing him before he was running away.
That's not completely true, first of all you need to be real. Telltalegames is a company. In order to make profit, they also need to listen to their community/ fans. In a interview they said that people wanted Kenny back, and so they did. They don't "love" him. they even gave you the chance to decide whether to stay with him or not. Arvo shot Clementine because he thought that his sister was still alive after she moved to Clementine. He gave Clementine the evil eye, shouted "noo" it's all clear.
In certain situations, I consider Kenny a Knight in Shining Armor. In the Arvo situation? Not so much.
J-Master, truely a Arvo supporter.
Stop seeing him as some kind of hero.
He's human.
He's part of the russian group that attacked Clementine's group.
You don't have to defend him. The only thing that's true is that Kenny's behavior against Arvo was unacceptable. That's it.
We aren't talking about that: "Arvo is pure evil!", Arvo shot Clementine because he thought that she killed his sister. We all don't like Arvo because of his mysterious attitude, and probably his 'plans' that might be revealed in season 3.
"They wan't you to drop your guns so they can take all your things." That's what Arvo said (some what)
He knew this before they decided to go back and get revenge.
They're bandits.
Some people might be blind about the fact that one may do anything to get himself out of the situation Arvo was in.
You can't ignore that Arvo might've manipulated the whole group, to escape.
J-Master, you have been blinded by emotions. You need to keep in mind that Arvo is not to be trusted. He was mysterious when Jane and Clementine caught him hiding meds. and he still is.
He means that Kenny wasn't wrong about anyone in season 2, and that makes him a hero.
Yeah he should've rephrase that into "harm".
Physically, mentally, putting at risk. etc.