Jane abandoned Clementine at the car crash.
Jane was all like: "YEAH I can finally execute my plan now! Clementine will manage just fine through the snowstorm. Now i'll just need to find a place to hide AJ. Hmmm. Where should I hide him?"
I went with Jane because I wanted to prevent murder. Had anyone else been under that knife, be it friend or foe, I would of shot whoever was holding that knife. Had my favorite character been wielding the knife, I would have shot them. Had my least favorite character been under the knife, I would have shot the one holding that knife.
Though Kenny had also been shown to be unstable throughout the whole season, and his treatment of other people really showed one of his flaws. I was also partially afraid that even if I saved him, he would end up doing this to other people. But ultimately what this comes down to was the power of the knife, at least for me.
Oh I didn't meant "small mistakes" by "all the little things". I more meant it like he racked up a killstreak of bad behavior and everyone hates him for that. (ugh this is a horrible example though).
In the end you know where his heart is, that counts for more to me.
well he might be a saint for someone, but for me he's just the same old Kenny. and that's baaad Kenny. Bad.
Fair play bro, but I like Kenny for all his small mistakes. Lee and Clem made those too, even if Kenny makes them with a bit more self righteous conviction
In the end you know where his heart is, that counts for more to me.
I wasn't a 100% sure about Arvo running away from whatever in that scene, but I didn't bother to look back to see what actually happend. But i'll trust you that you're saying the truth Thanks for correcting me.
The walkers already showed up before Luke fell through the ice. He started running after Luke fell.
As soon as Jane mentions the wal… morekers, Arvo looks behind and sees them, and starts walking faster, that's what makes me think he tried to run ahead out of fear of the walkers. Once the two walkers on the lake fall in, that's when Arvo begins really running. (But before this when he's just walking quickly Kenny will say 'stay with us' you can see Arvo not moving so that can call into question exactly how scared he was of the walkers.) It looks like the ice hasn't cracked under Luke at all yet,so by the time Luke fell, I'm pretty sure Kenny, Arvo, and Mike were already on land, he was running before Luke fell, not after.
Other than that, this post has made the argument towards Arvo actually planning to ditch them look more convincing to me, I guess. (The two differing interpretations between him being just a scared kid or a sneaky basta… [view original content]
I thought it would be some friendly advice, concerning your replies about no harm against women and women only, but that wouldn't of been the case if you agreed with AWESOMEO though. so just ignore the advice if that's the case. but this is going somewhere no one would like to go to, on a place like this. so let's just drop it.
Well I agree with your decision. but if you would've shot anyone that was wielding a weapon and was going to kill someone, and you both didn't knew them at all then that says a lot of your personality. Personally I must say; why would you kill anyone that you don't know? That's straight up murder. Random murder if I must say. the person wielding a weapon could've had any reason to do that. Self-defense, revenge, etc. so you really don't know what the current situation is. I would've just seperated them some way, not killing unless the whole situation ends up as a trap or whatever.
I went with Jane because I wanted to prevent murder. Had anyone else been under that knife, be it friend or foe, I would of shot whoever was… more holding that knife. Had my favorite character been wielding the knife, I would have shot them. Had my least favorite character been under the knife, I would have shot the one holding that knife.
Though Kenny had also been shown to be unstable throughout the whole season, and his treatment of other people really showed one of his flaws. I was also partially afraid that even if I saved him, he would end up doing this to other people. But ultimately what this comes down to was the power of the knife, at least for me.
Well I agree with your decision. but if you would've shot anyone that was wielding a weapon and was going to kill someone, and you both didn… more't knew them at all then that says a lot of your personality. Personally I must say; why would you kill anyone that you don't know? That's straight up murder. Random murder if I must say. the person wielding a weapon could've had any reason to do that. Self-defense, revenge, etc. so you really don't know what the current situation is. I would've just seperated them some way, not killing unless the whole situation ends up as a trap or whatever.
Well, like with every plan, it's impossible to foresee all the possible pitfalls.
And Kenny is no exception.
However, when Clementine was in danger, with regards to Carver, Kenny protected her.
Even when Troy was escorting them to Carver and a captured Luke, when Troy shoved Clementine, Kenny strongly protested. Personally, I'd like to have seen what would've happened to Troy, if he had treated Clementine like that in front of Kenny, and had not had that assault rifle in his hand.
I don't believe Kenny would've ever intentionally put Clementine in danger.
He loved Clementine.
He acted like she was the daughter he never had.
And like any good father, or any decent adult, he protected Clementine when she was in possible danger.
And like I said before, the whole radio idea was Luke's.
While the principle behind it was smart, that of obtaining Intel on the guards and there routines, does make sense.
And if Luke had not been captured, the execution of the plan would've been perfect.
After all Clementine did make to the appointed place.
So Kenny it would make sense to entrust her with getting the radio to Luke. Not to mention the fact, it was Luke's plan to use a radio in th… moree first place.
Yes, but Kenny did not realise the risk Clementine would've had if she carried that radio. The first part where Clementine went to get the walkie talkie's (still like to say forced though) was something quite diffrent than the situation where someone had to deliver the walkie talkie to Luke. and yes, trusting someone you know / knew for a long time does make sense. but still doesn't make it right to put Clementine at risk when it also could've been Mike or Kenny. Why do I sound so protective right now? well because I hate the whole plan where they decide to steal the walkie talkie's, and they're forcing Clementine to do it, where Clementine, puts most of her trust in Kenny so she would do it. so... shame on you Kenny, I wish you didn't do what you had to do. damn scripting
anyway... i'll come back another time. feel free to correct me.
Let Kenny kill Jane, and leave Kenny is the better ending no matters what people say, just because of one thing: It's the most emotive. Anyway, alone with AJ is the best.
Let Kenny kill Jane, and leave Kenny is the better ending no matters what people say, just because of one thing: It's the most emotive. Anyway, alone with AJ is the best.
You can't forget the fact that letting Kenny murdering Jane is bad. If you choose to make that choice just so you can enter Wellington, then Clementine will undoubtedly get the most nastiest character ever.
Let Kenny kill Jane, and leave Kenny is the better ending no matters what people say, just because of one thing: It's the most emotive. Anyway, alone with AJ is the best.
like with every plan, it's impossible to foresee all the possible pitfalls
This plan was shady. Only if you don't think it through, and if you have a attitude; "fuck it, let's do it anyway", only then you won't foresee the possible failures. In a real situation they could've used common sense. But this is a story, and they must stick to it. Impossible is a strong and often used word, you're often wrong if you use it, but it's just a matter of time before you realise that you're / you were wrong.
When Troy shoved Clementine, Kenny strongly protested.
Of course, Clementine knew / knows Kenny for quite some time and visa versa. He wouldn't just stare at Troy and be all like "OK." that's just not Kenny's character. You can compare Kenny with the hulk lol.
I don't believe Kenny would've ever intentionally put Clementine in danger. He loved Clementine. He acted like she was the daughter he never had.
He always tries to do the best thing for everyone. Clementine is no exception. but his family goes first, and frankly; Kenny rather sees Clementine as family of Lee, then his own "daughter he never had". They never had a strong connection in season 1 whatsoever. Kenny even doubted if he should've helped Lee with finding and rescuing Clementine. (that is; if you disagreed with ANY of Kenny's choices from season 1)
And like I said before, the whole radio idea was Luke's. While the principle behind it was smart, that of obtaining Intel on the guards and there routines, does make sense.
Yes. and at that time, the only thing that they thought about was getting out when the herd arrived. They didn't thought about what would happen if they found out that two of the walkie talkie's were missing. It was just a matter of time for them to find out. The plan to actually steal equipment to obtain intel, is stupid.
And if Luke had not been captured, the execution of the plan would've been perfect.
Nope. Not at all. They would've find out that two of the walkie talkie's were missing, and checking the prisoners would've been the most sensible thing to do first.
After all Clementine did make to the appointed place.
Still doesn't change anything. Even if Luke made it, They would've catched either Luke or one of the prisoners carrying one of the radio's. Then that person would've been invited to take a nice seat in Carver's "Liar" chair.
Well, like with every plan, it's impossible to foresee all the possible pitfalls.
And Kenny is no exception.
However, when Clementine was … morein danger, with regards to Carver, Kenny protected her.
Even when Troy was escorting them to Carver and a captured Luke, when Troy shoved Clementine, Kenny strongly protested. Personally, I'd like to have seen what would've happened to Troy, if he had treated Clementine like that in front of Kenny, and had not had that assault rifle in his hand.
I don't believe Kenny would've ever intentionally put Clementine in danger.
He loved Clementine.
He acted like she was the daughter he never had.
And like any good father, or any decent adult, he protected Clementine when she was in possible danger.
And like I said before, the whole radio idea was Luke's.
While the principle behind it was smart, that of obtaining Intel on the guards and there routines, does make sense.
And if Luke had not been captur… [view original content]
I waited for the [Shoot Jane] option that never came. Instead, Kenny beat up Jane and stabbed her with her own knife. Jane got her dumb self killed in the fight that she planned.
I then went with Kenny to Wellington, and refused to part with him there, as he was family.
Kenny rescued Clem multiple times, at the risk of his own life. He could have turned away the Cabin Group, but he took them in upon seeing Clem. He could have run away when Carver captured the Cabin Group, but he stuck around to rescue Clem. When Carver pointed the gun at Clem, he gave himself up, knowing that he would likely be killed for having killed one of Carver's men. When Carver was going to kill Clem, he took the blame for the radio. When several group members abandoned Clem, he stuck around. When they reached Wellington, he begged them to take Clem so that she could survive, even offering to leave without any supplies as a part of the deal.
He had flaws, but he was there for Clem as a father/uncle.
Yeah, so, I think deep down inside, I'm still that Kenny fangirl.
I'm so sorry. I really dislike him, but it's just still there.
I ended up watching before I played it. And I was saying to myself "nup. Fuck them both, AJ and Clementine til the end mothafuckers." then when I played I was like "omg ken bae its ok we no stay at wellington we go with u keyn we luv u ken4lyf boats n urbans yeeee" then It was "omg what the fuck no fuck this bye kenny bye jane" so I replayed the ending, watched Kenny stab Jane (my guilty pleasure soznotsoz), then shot Kenny.
What a ton of people went when they went with Jane:
Ok, I had a good photo, but now I can't find it. So here's what is said: I'm a nice enough person to forgive you, but not stupid enough to trust you again.
I think you misunderstand. I abandoned Kenny and stay alone with AJ. For me, that was the best ending, Wellington thing is so '' Meh '' for me, and Kenny make so much mistakes, but I still think he is better than Jane. Is that.
You can't forget the fact that letting Kenny murdering Jane is bad. If you choose to make that choice just so you can enter Wellington, then Clementine will undoubtedly get the most nastiest character ever.
I understand, but there are many ways to leave with AJ.
You can either let Kenny kill Jane or kill Kenny.
You can either kill Kenny after he killed Jane, or abandon him. Or leave Jane, depending on the choice you made.
I think you misunderstand. I abandoned Kenny and stay alone with AJ. For me, that was the best ending, Wellington thing is so '' Meh '' for me, and Kenny make so much mistakes, but I still think he is better than Jane. Is that.
Kenny rescued Clem multiple times, at the risk of his own life.
Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
He could have turned away the Cabin Group, but he took them in upon seeing Clem.
He asked Clementine if she vouched for the cabin group. They knew each other for about a half year in season 1, would make no sense to turn them away because Clementine is with another group now.
He could have run away when Carver captured the Cabin Group, but he stuck around to rescue Clem.
*Sarita.
When Carver pointed the gun at Clem, he gave himself up,
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him. again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
When Carver was going to kill Clem, he took the blame for the radio.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio. and don't forget that Kenny was the one who assigned Clementine to get the walkie talkie, and next morning deliver it to Luke. Even if Clementine refused to do so, he still would've forced her. IF Kenny didn't took the radio, while he was responsible, then I would've killed him for putting Clem at risk and then not even taking responsibility.
When several group members abandoned Clem, he stuck around.
You mean when they tried to escape the mall? That's not really true. you saw them all, they abandoned Clementine. Just Jane was still fighting on the background; near Clementine. and Clem, Jane and Rebecca were the only ones that were together after the rest of the group fleed.
When they reached Wellington, he begged them to take Clem so that she could survive, even offering to leave without any supplies as a part of the deal.
Has a heart.
He had flaws, but he was there for Clem as a father/uncle.
Well if you think that's true, then he was a fucked up father/uncle.
I waited for the [Shoot Jane] option that never came. Instead, Kenny beat up Jane and stabbed her with her own knife. Jane got her dumb self… more killed in the fight that she planned.
I then went with Kenny to Wellington, and refused to part with him there, as he was family.
Kenny rescued Clem multiple times, at the risk of his own life. He could have turned away the Cabin Group, but he took them in upon seeing Clem. He could have run away when Carver captured the Cabin Group, but he stuck around to rescue Clem. When Carver pointed the gun at Clem, he gave himself up, knowing that he would likely be killed for having killed one of Carver's men. When Carver was going to kill Clem, he took the blame for the radio. When several group members abandoned Clem, he stuck around. When they reached Wellington, he begged them to take Clem so that she could survive, even offering to leave without any supplies as a part of the deal.
He had flaws, but he was there for Clem as a father/uncle.
I understand, but there are many ways to leave with AJ.
You can either let Kenny kill Jane or kill Kenny.
You can either kill Kenny after he killed Jane, or abandon him. Or leave Jane, depending on the choice you made.
I've chosen to kill Kenny and leave Jane. Sad, but no regrets, because it was the fairest choice for me (and I hope for Clem and Aj). Clem is now ready to make it alone.
I think kill Kenny is sad, indeed, but necessary... a sort of a gift for him. It's not a world for him anymore, he has already lost too much. And, after the shoot, he's understanding why we did that. And we can't let him become a monster by let him kill Jane. Nop.
Also, we can't stay with Jane because, at first, we can't trust her, and secondly, it's in part her fault if we have to kill Kenny.
Stay with Kenny or Jane is not a good choice for Clem and AJ. Stay with Lee was. As I said, Clem is ready to live alone is this world, and more: she can take care of a youngest one, AJ, like Lee have done with her. Full circle, if you know what I mean.
Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
Okay, let's start with the first one itself. Where Carver takes Clementine and the rest of the group hostage. Oh, he wasn't he cause of that? :P
*Sarita.
Clementine and Sarita.
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him.
Why?
again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
Regardless, he surrendered himself to Carver so that Clementine could live.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio.
Um it's very reasonable to believe that Carver would have killed Clem. We saw him throw Reggie to his death for helping the group escape, and Clem was helping the group escape. When Kenny takes the blame for the radio, Carver starts to beat him to death, before he is stopped by Bonnie.
You mean when they tried to escape the mall
I'm speaking about the end, where Bonnie and Mike abandon Clem.
Has a heart.
He's a hero. He trades the supplies that he needs to survive for Clem's survival at Wellington.
he was a fucked up father/uncle
That's completely unsubstantiated. I don't agree at all.
Kenny rescued Clem multiple times, at the risk of his own life.
Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
H… moree could have turned away the Cabin Group, but he took them in upon seeing Clem.
He asked Clementine if she vouched for the cabin group. They knew each other for about a half year in season 1, would make no sense to turn them away because Clementine is with another group now.
He could have run away when Carver captured the Cabin Group, but he stuck around to rescue Clem.
*Sarita.
When Carver pointed the gun at Clem, he gave himself up,
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him. again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
When Carver was going to kill Clem, he took the blame for the radio.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio. an… [view original content]
Where Carver takes Clementine and the rest of the group hostage.
Lets rage control the situation. Check.
Succeeds to get Walter killed. Check.
Succeeds to get Alvin killed (determinant). Check.
Finally comes to his senses and gives up when Carver is holding either Sarita or Clementine under gun shot. Check.
Rescues the group. Nope.
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him.
Because suddenly, when Carver is holding the gun against Sarita's head or Clementine's head, he comes to his senses.
Um it's very reasonable to believe that Carver would have killed Clem. We saw him throw Reggie to his death for helping the group escape, and Clem was helping the group escape. When Kenny takes the blame for the radio, Carver starts to beat him to death, before he is stopped by Bonnie.
Kenny's attitude against Carver.
Clementine is young, Carver knew that Clementine is mentally stable and has nerve, he also mentioned that he wants 'his' baby to grow up like Clementine did. He probably would've forgave her depending on her attitude. I'm saying this because when you're listening to Carver's conversation (with the walkie talkie's) you can tell that you're sorry or show an attitude and get beaten. Also worth mentioning; In one of the dialogues Carver says something like: "Well you can't have this one. If you try to take it I will hurt you myself honny." Which makes it hard to tell if Carver would've killed Clementine, hurt her, or forgave her for her actions.
Reggie was weak of character, had no nerve. That's why Carver threw him off the roof. He believed that killing him was in order to save many. Clementine was the exact opposite of Reggie. If you watched Carver's behavior closely, you would've noticed that Carver "liked" the way Clementine was educated.
I'm speaking about the end, where Bonnie and Mike abandon Clem.
That's determinant. Bonnie is either missing, dead or alive. But, Yes Kenny and Jane sticked with Clem and they both had no reason to leave her bleeding on the ground to death.
He's a hero. He trades the supplies that he needs to survive for Clem's survival at Wellington.
I agree with most people around here; Kenny ain't no hero. There is a word for Kenny, but it just ain't 'hero'.
your statement:
but he was there for Clem as a father/uncle
mine:
then he was a fucked up father/uncle.
I'm gonna stand with my case. I say that Kenny's personality is my prove.
Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
Okay, let's start with the first one itself. Where Carver takes Clement… moreine and the rest of the group hostage. Oh, he wasn't he cause of that? :P
*Sarita.
Clementine and Sarita.
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him.
Why?
again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
Regardless, he surrendered himself to Carver so that Clementine could live.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio.
Um it's very reasonable to believe that Carver would have killed Clem. We saw him throw Reggie to his death for helping the group escape, and Clem was helping the group escape. When Kenny takes the blame for the radio, Carver starts to beat him to death, before he is stopped by Bonnie.
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Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
Okay, let's start with the first one itself. Where Carver takes Clement… moreine and the rest of the group hostage. Oh, he wasn't he cause of that? :P
*Sarita.
Clementine and Sarita.
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him.
Why?
again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
Regardless, he surrendered himself to Carver so that Clementine could live.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio.
Um it's very reasonable to believe that Carver would have killed Clem. We saw him throw Reggie to his death for helping the group escape, and Clem was helping the group escape. When Kenny takes the blame for the radio, Carver starts to beat him to death, before he is stopped by Bonnie.
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I've chosen to kill Kenny and leave Jane. Sad, but no regrets, because it was the fairest choice for me (and I hope for Clem and Aj). Clem i… mores now ready to make it alone.
I think kill Kenny is sad, indeed, but necessary... a sort of a gift for him. It's not a world for him anymore, he has already lost too much. And, after the shoot, he's understanding why we did that. And we can't let him become a monster by let him kill Jane. Nop.
Also, we can't stay with Jane because, at first, we can't trust her, and secondly, it's in part her fault if we have to kill Kenny.
Stay with Kenny or Jane is not a good choice for Clem and AJ. Stay with Lee was. As I said, Clem is ready to live alone is this world, and more: she can take care of a youngest one, AJ, like Lee have done with her. Full circle, if you know what I mean.
(sorry for my poor english)
I prefer being alone with AJ than being with some crazy redneck who could get mad and kill me and being with a stupid loner who is apparentally obsessed with clem
I killed Kenny and left with Jane. I also took the family in. Here's why:
I loved Kenny, but he's always been like that, getting worse. It all started at Hershel's farm. Good Kenny has very bad reflex. That's why he lets Hershel's son die and don't help Lee even after Duck is safe. He does something and feel bad after. It came to a point where it was impossible to stick to a group without having to take care of his problems. I get it, he lost his wife. But fuck! At that point they ALL lost their loved ones. It's just not a reason.
Jane, on the other hand, I trust her. Yes, she is a lonely soldier, but as far as what I experienced, she's loyal to Clementine. And her obsession toward Clementine clearly comes from the lost of her younger sister. She sees in Clem what lacked to her sister. She wants to save Clem because she can, and couldn't with her sister.
When it comes to her lying to Clem... I get her and forgive her. I think she did what necessary. Kenny led everyone away from him, separing the group. He wanted to leave in the cold to find a place that might not exist. AJ didn't even have formula left. Jane wanted to go back get formula somewhere they knew they'd find some. Now she saw that as a suicidal mission, and Kenny was acting as a jerk off yet again, not listening a word of what people say and taking decision for everyone. She had to do something and did what she could to save AJ and Clem. Because think about it. She could've ran away and choose where to go on her own, like she used to. She didn't wanted Kenny's death. But I don't think she knew exactly what she wanted at that point.
So here it is. I think Kenny was getting what he was looking for. Jane what only doing her best.
I like Kenny for all his small mistakes
Oh I didn't meant "small mistakes" by "all the little things". I more meant it like he racke… mored up a killstreak of bad behavior and everyone hates him for that. (ugh this is a horrible example though).
In the end you know where his heart is, that counts for more to me.
well he might be a saint for someone, but for me he's just the same old Kenny. and that's baaad Kenny. Bad.
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No bashing Jane with me, please. I went with her because I trusted her to look after Clementine and by extension A.J. and I stand by that.
I went with Jane because I wanted to prevent murder. Had anyone else been under that knife, be it friend or foe, I would of shot whoever was holding that knife. Had my favorite character been wielding the knife, I would have shot them. Had my least favorite character been under the knife, I would have shot the one holding that knife.
Though Kenny had also been shown to be unstable throughout the whole season, and his treatment of other people really showed one of his flaws. I was also partially afraid that even if I saved him, he would end up doing this to other people. But ultimately what this comes down to was the power of the knife, at least for me.
Oh I didn't meant "small mistakes" by "all the little things". I more meant it like he racked up a killstreak of bad behavior and everyone hates him for that. (ugh this is a horrible example though).
well he might be a saint for someone, but for me he's just the same old Kenny. and that's baaad Kenny. Bad.
You're right, you know.
I wasn't a 100% sure about Arvo running away from whatever in that scene, but I didn't bother to look back to see what actually happend. But i'll trust you that you're saying the truth
Thanks for correcting me.
Ok. I hope you wouldn't think like that all the time, because you would end up with a Nate community, I bet.
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we all make our choices.
I thought it would be some friendly advice, concerning your replies about no harm against women and women only, but that wouldn't of been the case if you agreed with AWESOMEO though. so just ignore the advice if that's the case. but this is going somewhere no one would like to go to, on a place like this. so let's just drop it.
Well I agree with your decision. but if you would've shot anyone that was wielding a weapon and was going to kill someone, and you both didn't knew them at all then that says a lot of your personality. Personally I must say; why would you kill anyone that you don't know? That's straight up murder. Random murder if I must say. the person wielding a weapon could've had any reason to do that. Self-defense, revenge, etc. so you really don't know what the current situation is. I would've just seperated them some way, not killing unless the whole situation ends up as a trap or whatever.
But yeah, definitely prevent people getting killed.
Well, like with every plan, it's impossible to foresee all the possible pitfalls.
And Kenny is no exception.
However, when Clementine was in danger, with regards to Carver, Kenny protected her.
Even when Troy was escorting them to Carver and a captured Luke, when Troy shoved Clementine, Kenny strongly protested. Personally, I'd like to have seen what would've happened to Troy, if he had treated Clementine like that in front of Kenny, and had not had that assault rifle in his hand.
I don't believe Kenny would've ever intentionally put Clementine in danger.
He loved Clementine.
He acted like she was the daughter he never had.
And like any good father, or any decent adult, he protected Clementine when she was in possible danger.
And like I said before, the whole radio idea was Luke's.
While the principle behind it was smart, that of obtaining Intel on the guards and there routines, does make sense.
And if Luke had not been captured, the execution of the plan would've been perfect.
After all Clementine did make to the appointed place.
Let Kenny kill Jane, and leave Kenny is the better ending no matters what people say, just because of one thing: It's the most emotive. Anyway, alone with AJ is the best.
I hope Tell Tale brings in a new character that is both like Jane and Kenny, it would show how compatible the two would've been in an ending together
You can't forget the fact that letting Kenny murdering Jane is bad. If you choose to make that choice just so you can enter Wellington, then Clementine will undoubtedly get the most nastiest character ever.
This plan was shady. Only if you don't think it through, and if you have a attitude; "fuck it, let's do it anyway", only then you won't foresee the possible failures. In a real situation they could've used common sense. But this is a story, and they must stick to it. Impossible is a strong and often used word, you're often wrong if you use it, but it's just a matter of time before you realise that you're / you were wrong.
Of course, Clementine knew / knows Kenny for quite some time and visa versa. He wouldn't just stare at Troy and be all like "OK." that's just not Kenny's character. You can compare Kenny with the hulk lol.
He always tries to do the best thing for everyone. Clementine is no exception. but his family goes first, and frankly; Kenny rather sees Clementine as family of Lee, then his own "daughter he never had". They never had a strong connection in season 1 whatsoever. Kenny even doubted if he should've helped Lee with finding and rescuing Clementine. (that is; if you disagreed with ANY of Kenny's choices from season 1)
Yes. and at that time, the only thing that they thought about was getting out when the herd arrived. They didn't thought about what would happen if they found out that two of the walkie talkie's were missing. It was just a matter of time for them to find out. The plan to actually steal equipment to obtain intel, is stupid.
Nope. Not at all. They would've find out that two of the walkie talkie's were missing, and checking the prisoners would've been the most sensible thing to do first.
Still doesn't change anything. Even if Luke made it, They would've catched either Luke or one of the prisoners carrying one of the radio's. Then that person would've been invited to take a nice seat in Carver's "Liar" chair.
Went with Kenny and refused to leave him when we arrived at Wellington. I value friendship over safety.
I waited for the [Shoot Jane] option that never came. Instead, Kenny beat up Jane and stabbed her with her own knife. Jane got her dumb self killed in the fight that she planned.
I then went with Kenny to Wellington, and refused to part with him there, as he was family.
Kenny rescued Clem multiple times, at the risk of his own life. He could have turned away the Cabin Group, but he took them in upon seeing Clem. He could have run away when Carver captured the Cabin Group, but he stuck around to rescue Clem. When Carver pointed the gun at Clem, he gave himself up, knowing that he would likely be killed for having killed one of Carver's men. When Carver was going to kill Clem, he took the blame for the radio. When several group members abandoned Clem, he stuck around. When they reached Wellington, he begged them to take Clem so that she could survive, even offering to leave without any supplies as a part of the deal.
He had flaws, but he was there for Clem as a father/uncle.
literally.
"shipping them so hard right now"
fUCK xD
Yeah, so, I think deep down inside, I'm still that Kenny fangirl.
I'm so sorry. I really dislike him, but it's just still there.
I ended up watching before I played it. And I was saying to myself "nup. Fuck them both, AJ and Clementine til the end mothafuckers." then when I played I was like "omg ken bae its ok we no stay at wellington we go with u keyn we luv u ken4lyf boats n urbans yeeee" then It was "omg what the fuck no fuck this bye kenny bye jane" so I replayed the ending, watched Kenny stab Jane (my guilty pleasure soznotsoz), then shot Kenny.
What a ton of people went when they went with Jane:
Ok, I had a good photo, but now I can't find it. So here's what is said: I'm a nice enough person to forgive you, but not stupid enough to trust you again.
I think you misunderstand. I abandoned Kenny and stay alone with AJ. For me, that was the best ending, Wellington thing is so '' Meh '' for me, and Kenny make so much mistakes, but I still think he is better than Jane. Is that.
I understand, but there are many ways to leave with AJ.
You can either let Kenny kill Jane or kill Kenny.
You can either kill Kenny after he killed Jane, or abandon him. Or leave Jane, depending on the choice you made.
Name one where he wasn't the cause of it in the first place.
He asked Clementine if she vouched for the cabin group. They knew each other for about a half year in season 1, would make no sense to turn them away because Clementine is with another group now.
*Sarita.
He wouldn't take the chance to shoot him. again, they knew each other for about 6 months. There's no chance Kenny would forget that.
Woa woa. That never happend. It wasn't sure that Carver would've killed Clementine if he found out that she had the radio. and don't forget that Kenny was the one who assigned Clementine to get the walkie talkie, and next morning deliver it to Luke. Even if Clementine refused to do so, he still would've forced her. IF Kenny didn't took the radio, while he was responsible, then I would've killed him for putting Clem at risk and then not even taking responsibility.
You mean when they tried to escape the mall? That's not really true. you saw them all, they abandoned Clementine. Just Jane was still fighting on the background; near Clementine. and Clem, Jane and Rebecca were the only ones that were together after the rest of the group fleed.
Has a heart.
Well if you think that's true, then he was a fucked up father/uncle.
I let Jane die and went with Kenny. At Wellington, I chose to go inside.
Yep.
I've chosen to kill Kenny and leave Jane. Sad, but no regrets, because it was the fairest choice for me (and I hope for Clem and Aj). Clem is now ready to make it alone.
I think kill Kenny is sad, indeed, but necessary... a sort of a gift for him. It's not a world for him anymore, he has already lost too much. And, after the shoot, he's understanding why we did that. And we can't let him become a monster by let him kill Jane. Nop.
Also, we can't stay with Jane because, at first, we can't trust her, and secondly, it's in part her fault if we have to kill Kenny.
Stay with Kenny or Jane is not a good choice for Clem and AJ. Stay with Lee was. As I said, Clem is ready to live alone is this world, and more: she can take care of a youngest one, AJ, like Lee have done with her. Full circle, if you know what I mean.
(sorry for my poor english)
Okay, let's start with the first one itself. Where Carver takes Clementine and the rest of the group hostage. Oh, he wasn't he cause of that? :P
Clementine and Sarita.
Why?
Regardless, he surrendered himself to Carver so that Clementine could live.
Um it's very reasonable to believe that Carver would have killed Clem. We saw him throw Reggie to his death for helping the group escape, and Clem was helping the group escape. When Kenny takes the blame for the radio, Carver starts to beat him to death, before he is stopped by Bonnie.
I'm speaking about the end, where Bonnie and Mike abandon Clem.
He's a hero. He trades the supplies that he needs to survive for Clem's survival at Wellington.
That's completely unsubstantiated. I don't agree at all.
Lets rage control the situation. Check.
Succeeds to get Walter killed. Check.
Succeeds to get Alvin killed (determinant). Check.
Finally comes to his senses and gives up when Carver is holding either Sarita or Clementine under gun shot. Check.
Rescues the group. Nope.
Because suddenly, when Carver is holding the gun against Sarita's head or Clementine's head, he comes to his senses.
That's determinant. Bonnie is either missing, dead or alive. But, Yes Kenny and Jane sticked with Clem and they both had no reason to leave her bleeding on the ground to death.
I agree with most people around here; Kenny ain't no hero. There is a word for Kenny, but it just ain't 'hero'.
your statement:
mine:
I'm gonna stand with my case. I say that Kenny's personality is my prove.
He took the supplies and left
Ha, yeah...
I am not sure if Clem is ready to be alone, remember what happened last time? She got bit by a dog and almost died.
She learned from that encounter.
A first time for everything.
Yea well she has a baby now, i dont think stuff will turn out okay.
I prefer being alone with AJ than being with some crazy redneck who could get mad and kill me and being with a stupid loner who is apparentally obsessed with clem
I killed Kenny and left with Jane. I also took the family in. Here's why:
I loved Kenny, but he's always been like that, getting worse. It all started at Hershel's farm. Good Kenny has very bad reflex. That's why he lets Hershel's son die and don't help Lee even after Duck is safe. He does something and feel bad after. It came to a point where it was impossible to stick to a group without having to take care of his problems. I get it, he lost his wife. But fuck! At that point they ALL lost their loved ones. It's just not a reason.
Jane, on the other hand, I trust her. Yes, she is a lonely soldier, but as far as what I experienced, she's loyal to Clementine. And her obsession toward Clementine clearly comes from the lost of her younger sister. She sees in Clem what lacked to her sister. She wants to save Clem because she can, and couldn't with her sister.
When it comes to her lying to Clem... I get her and forgive her. I think she did what necessary. Kenny led everyone away from him, separing the group. He wanted to leave in the cold to find a place that might not exist. AJ didn't even have formula left. Jane wanted to go back get formula somewhere they knew they'd find some. Now she saw that as a suicidal mission, and Kenny was acting as a jerk off yet again, not listening a word of what people say and taking decision for everyone. She had to do something and did what she could to save AJ and Clem. Because think about it. She could've ran away and choose where to go on her own, like she used to. She didn't wanted Kenny's death. But I don't think she knew exactly what she wanted at that point.
So here it is. I think Kenny was getting what he was looking for. Jane what only doing her best.
He has never been a saint to me, but I think he's better than Jane and that's why I stayed with him.