why leave so many characters for turn in S2?What happened with the "brain thing" so present in S1?

edited October 2014 in The Walking Dead

something I noticed only now is the amount of group members who became walkers in S2. in S1 in almost all died with a bullet in the head, preventing from turn. Why TG did the oposite now? I know some deaths you can't stop them from turning, but in,some deaths is perfectly possible to prevent turn, but members of the group just dont wast ONE SINGLE BULLET to put them off their misery.

Let's start with S1 :

Larry : brain destroyed by powers off salt lick CHECK

Carley : Shoot in the head by Lilly :'( CHECK

Duck(determinant) : Shoot in the head by Lee. CHECK

Kat: Commits suicide, destroying the brain CHECK

Chuck :kills himself after being bitten :( CHECK

Ben(determinant): Kenny put him out of her misery CHECK

Lee: (determinant) Shoot in the head by clem CHECK :'(

Andy(determinant) : I think the Brain explodes after the eletric fence :D CHECK

Who turned : Duck (determinant) Mark ( a zombie hero, did more good things undead them some peoples did Alive *cough) Brenda ( Larry's cannibal girlfriend <3) Brie, Danny, no matter what you do.( He is traped in the dumb thing with no release latch, whit a lot off walkers invading the farm, i dont know why dont put him as undead yet, there's no " real lucky " here) and Lee :'(.

Now in S2 :

Reggie ( I think he bites sarita, I thought his brain was destroyed with the fall, but not sure. the walker looks a lot like him.)

Rebecca : Blood loss. RIP

Sarita (determinant) : " Your stupid fucking kid" . so hard to hear :'(

Luke : he's gonna turn in water?

Alvin : Never forget

Sarah ( WHY THE HELL SOMEONE DIDINT WASTE ONE BULLET AND SHOOT HER IN THE HEAD. THEY CANT WASTE A BULLET BUT HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH LETTING A KID BE EATING ALIVE?! i tried to save her, but after the first bit, if i was here, for sure i was going to put her out off misery. wtf happened there???!!!!!

Nick : sad :(

Kenny/ Jane ( determinant) the worse turn. If you shoot kenny and save Jane he die by blood loss. in the middle of the last dialogue where's request
for clem shoot him in the head like:

" Im so sorry honey, but you have to do one last thing for me, and you know what. "
[ Cries a Lot] { Shoot Kenny in the head} Rebeca dies by the same cause and we know what happened after this. why clem just........ :'(

Jane dies with a knife stuck on her. and AGAIN, why clem dont shoot her in the head?

I Wont be surprise if Jane (zombified) Kill Kenny in S3, or vice-versa, just for shock value. Its hard to find one of them again as walkers, But iff Telltale want it, you will have to chop one of them, Like Lee did to Brie.

  • I know i probably forgot some deaths, or made some mistakes you can correct me
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  • Rebecca gets shot in the head, it was the last decision of episode 4 :P and the walker that bit Sarita is definitely not Reggie.

  • i know it. i post all of the characters who i remember turning, no matter if you kill him after or not.

    Green613 posted: »

    Rebecca gets shot in the head, it was the last decision of episode 4 :P and the walker that bit Sarita is definitely not Reggie.

  • You forgot Doug, he can get shot in the head too. (As a believer that Doug was a better character than Carley, that just bothers me.)

    Alvin can be determinate and shot in the head by Carver.

    And Reggie was killed. There's a time gap of a few hours, and he's still on the ground. We all know you turn within a few minutes after you die.

    igormp posted: »

    i know it. i post all of the characters who i remember turning, no matter if you kill him after or not.

  • Ohh I see now :p

    igormp posted: »

    i know it. i post all of the characters who i remember turning, no matter if you kill him after or not.

  • Not really, it can take a few minutes, a few hours, even a full day to turn, just look at Amy in the TV show.

    Mrbman9001 posted: »

    You forgot Doug, he can get shot in the head too. (As a believer that Doug was a better character than Carley, that just bothers me.) Alv

  • Well, I'm only familiar with the comics, and TellTale has stated they treat the comics as canon.

    And, in the comic, Amy was put down soon after she was bit.

    MayorMilk posted: »

    Not really, it can take a few minutes, a few hours, even a full day to turn, just look at Amy in the TV show.

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    You can put down the Stranger also, if Clem doesn't shoot him.

  • The only one is Jane/Kenny, the other I dont know

    I mean Sarah and Carlos likely would get completley eaten. Everyone else is put down at least determinant

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    luke, omid... About get completley eaten, this is so confuse. I mean, I thought brie had been completely eaten, but she came to visit me in the next day, so i think its possible that them have turned.

    [ FRIENDS FOREVER, YOU DID THE PINK SWEAR , WHROAAAAAAAAAAARRRR]

    [ HOW BIG IS WELLINGTON? WHROAAAAAAAAAAR]

    In S1 we dont have much space for left this happen. I mean, the brain thing receives much more importance. Off course they cant stop all from turning in S2 ( luke is impossible , for example.) Still. the deaths in S2 are much worse and can leave most off the character to turn, depending by how you play the game. S1. The members destroy the brain off majority. , no matter what you do. In S2 we have a lot of possibilites alvin can turn, sarita, nick, Luke, Kenny/Jane, Omid, Sarah, Carlos.... its much more them in S1

    Left Omid for turn is stupid. i know christa and clem were completely shocked after his death, but leaving your love for turn is worse them shoot him. seems a little out of character for christa, i dont know. Left Kenny/Jane for turn is stupid and out of character for clem ( considering she probably shot the lee before, do this with kenny / Jane shouldnt be to bad as it was with lee. And Sarah i already mentioned before.

    S1 group worked better about survivalism, i think

    The only one is Jane/Kenny, the other I dont know I mean Sarah and Carlos likely would get completley eaten. Everyone else is put down at least determinant

  • I think that Sarah´s brain is destroyed by the deck if you save her at the trailer park

    igormp posted: »

    luke, omid... About get completley eaten, this is so confuse. I mean, I thought brie had been completely eaten, but she came to visit me

  • If Lee kills him, you can choose to shoot him in the head.

    You can put down the Stranger also, if Clem doesn't shoot him.

  • How so?

    supersagig posted: »

    I think that Sarah´s brain is destroyed by the deck if you save her at the trailer park

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    Yeah, it's sad you tell Kenny he's gonna see his family again, but don't shoot him in the head to make sure that happens.

    Sarah is the worst case of this, they just leave her there to be eaten, they could have done what Kenny did to Ben. At least there's some tiny hope that when the deck fell it crushed her head.

  • I just hope that the 'shot fallen friends in the head so they don't come back as walkers' events were all done off-screen.

    Just leaving them like that indefinitely just seems needlessly cruel...

  • Are you seriously asking that?

    How so?

  • As a believer that Doug was a better character than Carley, that just bothers me.

    What!? Carley had weapon skills and she had boobs! Obviously the better choice :P

    JK

    Mrbman9001 posted: »

    You forgot Doug, he can get shot in the head too. (As a believer that Doug was a better character than Carley, that just bothers me.) Alv

  • Not really "cruel" since they're already dead so they wouldn't feel anything. Pretty inconsiderate because they're letting another walker be created that could potentially threaten other survivors down the road and I guess maybe disrespectful since it's sort of like not burying the dead, but much worse.

    RichWalk23 posted: »

    I just hope that the 'shot fallen friends in the head so they don't come back as walkers' events were all done off-screen. Just leaving them like that indefinitely just seems needlessly cruel...

  • No Sarah was smart...Jane won't be coming back....

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Sarah doesn't really count. She didn't have enough brains to actually become a zombie.

  • Sarah doesn't really count. She didn't have enough brains to actually become a zombie.

  • For Rebecca, she turned while the group was being ambushed by Arvo and his friends, they didn't notice that she was dead until it was too late. For Sarita, if you chose to axe her arm, Clementine tells Kenny that they have to destroy her brain and then she can axe her head. If Sarita still has her arm, Kenny later says that he couldn't bring himself to kill her before she turned. For Nick, he was all alone when it happened so no one could've helped him, same for Luke since he was beyond anyone's reach under the water.

    Now for Sarah I agree with what you said although after seeing how she was devoured by so many walkers, I don't think there would be enough of her left for her to turn, but I'm not really sure of how it works.

    Concerning Kenny/Jane, I agree that it's weird how Clem forgets about it. Or maybe she just doesn't care anymore because of what they did. There is only one way to make sure Kenny doesn' t turn if you decide to kill him, it's choosing to shoot him after he kills Jane, that way Clem shoots him straight in the head.

  • and what about omid?

    Mary5 posted: »

    For Rebecca, she turned while the group was being ambushed by Arvo and his friends, they didn't notice that she was dead until it was too la

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    I pretty sure they killed Sarah again when they left the platform, or maybe Jane did when she left. It was off screen but I can't imagine they'd just leave her. I dunno, maybe. I like to think they ended it.

    The walker biting Sarita wasn't Reggie, but Reggie turned I believe (he was gone the next day I think).

    Luke is a walker for eternity and will end up like the ones in 5x02.

    Alvin will probably turn if he dies at Howe's, because his brain was intact when he died and the other members were busy with being ripped apart by the herd and couldn't put him down.

    Nick is dead (obviously) if Clem kills him, or is 50:50 shot by Carver or left to reanimate in 2x02.

    Pete will reanimate if he dies in 2x01 and is dead 2x02.

    Jane will reanimate, but won't come very far with the knife still stuck :P

    Kenny will reanimate if Clem shoots him with that weird mortal hipshot thing and will not if shot in the head.

    Walter will not reanimate.

    Matthew will reanimate if his brain wasn't too badly damaged on impact.

    Sarita can reanimate if Clem hacks her arm off in 2x03, she will die and can be hacked or not. If not, then she's back for more.

    Carver won't come back :P

    Beatrice will reanimate if Lee doesn't shoot her.

    Lee will reanimate if Clem doesn't shoot him.

  • They probably took care of him offscreen though I admit that it's very strange how they didn't seem concerned about it.

    igormp posted: »

    and what about omid?

  • Sarah was smart? Compared to what? toilet paper? Jane is a zombie ice sickle

    No Sarah was smart...Jane won't be coming back....

  • These kind of comments make me want to change my canon playthrought from shoting Kennt and leaving Jane to let Kenny kill Jane and then kill him

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Sarah was smart? Compared to what? toilet paper? Jane is a zombie ice sickle

  • Compared to most people.

    Sarah has PTSD and was grieving the loss of her dad, that doesn't make her stupid.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Sarah was smart? Compared to what? toilet paper? Jane is a zombie ice sickle

  • Oh for fuck sakes can't any of you take a joke? As for your "canon play through", go for it. I don't give 2 shits what any of you do. Who cares? If you haven't figured it out already both Jane, and Kenny are already dead for the next game. TellTale doesn't allow for any meaningful decisions. Determinant = dead, period.

    Compared to most people. Sarah has PTSD and was grieving the loss of her dad, that doesn't make her stupid.

  • Compared to most people? Please give me an example that shows this great knowledge of hers. I saved her in the game. I don't dislike her character, and wanted her to live. I have posted about it before but don't make things up about these characters. It's like claiming that Jane was a truly kind, and giving woman who would sacrifice herself for strangers.

    Compared to most people. Sarah has PTSD and was grieving the loss of her dad, that doesn't make her stupid.

  • Excuse me?

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Oh for fuck sakes can't any of you take a joke? As for your "canon play through", go for it. I don't give 2 shits what any of you do. Who

  • I never said she's a genius but she is smart. Smarter than most characters like Jane, Bonnie, Kenny. Plus Sarah was confirmed with PTSD, I'm not making it up.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Compared to most people? Please give me an example that shows this great knowledge of hers. I saved her in the game. I don't dislike her

  • I don't care if she had PTSD please give me one example that shows she had more brains than a child.

    I never said she's a genius but she is smart. Smarter than most characters like Jane, Bonnie, Kenny. Plus Sarah was confirmed with PTSD, I'm not making it up.

  • and i dont give any shit what you do

    Kennyftw posted: »

    Oh for fuck sakes can't any of you take a joke? As for your "canon play through", go for it. I don't give 2 shits what any of you do. Who

    • She was able to hide a gun from her watchful father.
    • She successfully hid from Carver.
    • She made it out of the herd without being bitten.

    Also, why do you not care about her PTSD?

    Kennyftw posted: »

    I don't care if she had PTSD please give me one example that shows she had more brains than a child.

  • PTSD isn't a sign of intelligence or lack of it. To me it's a non issue when talking of her intelligence.

    Children hide things from their parents on a regular basis, hiding is also something children do. She made it out of the herd because she panicked and ran like crazy, that's not a sign of intelligence.

    * She was able to hide a gun from her watchful father. * She successfully hid from Carver. * She made it out of the herd without being bitten. Also, why do you not care about her PTSD?

  • Yes but PTSD does explain many of the things people complain about.

    Yes but she hid it well from a parent that watched her almost all the time. She had to done things in the herd that made her think, which way do I go? How do I avoid this walker? In a state of panic as she was in, she was pretty smart to make it out of there.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    PTSD isn't a sign of intelligence or lack of it. To me it's a non issue when talking of her intelligence. Children hide things from thei

  • The PTSD does explain a lot of her problems, that's fine. She is a child, she acts as children do. I can't stand Jane, or Bonnie but to claim Sarah is smarter than them? Come on that is a huge leap with no evidence. Hiding something from a parent who is overly protective? Come on children do it everyday!

    You are wrong about her running through the herd. Luke was right behind her. She ran like hell just like any panicked person, or animal would do. There wasn't a great deal of thought behind it. It wasn't a sign of intelligence.

    Yes but PTSD does explain many of the things people complain about. Yes but she hid it well from a parent that watched her almost all the

  • Well we are all entitled to our opinions. You may think Sarah isn't smart while I do...At least you don't wish death on her.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    The PTSD does explain a lot of her problems, that's fine. She is a child, she acts as children do. I can't stand Jane, or Bonnie but to cl

  • No of course not. Before I was posting how they could have her leave the game because they cross paths with another group of survivors that had her family members. That way your choice in saving her made a difference. I'm still pissed how TellTale gives you two choices 1. They die now, 2. they die later.

    Well we are all entitled to our opinions. You may think Sarah isn't smart while I do...At least you don't wish death on her.

  • Yeah that pissed me off...If I wanted anyone to survive it would be Sarah and Luke.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    No of course not. Before I was posting how they could have her leave the game because they cross paths with another group of survivors that

  • Luke and Nick ran too. So did Kenny and Mike. Bonnie was unloading her goddamn machine-gun into a horde and nobody seemed to react.

    The whole 'storm' sequence was just poorly written as hell.

    Kennyftw posted: »

    The PTSD does explain a lot of her problems, that's fine. She is a child, she acts as children do. I can't stand Jane, or Bonnie but to cl

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