3 of the reasons you give to hate Jane are things Kenny has done. Steal get people killed and wanting to leave people behind. I don't see why starting a camp would be bad and Jane will let people in the group if you let her. I don't hate Jane
Id rather have a short and happy life keeping those who others would consider "liabilities" alive than have a long and dreadful life where i try to survive and only stick up for myself and only keep those around who are "useful".
Some dont have what it takes to survive. Its just part of natural selection to be honest. Weaker minds will fail in long run.
He cared about people others would call "liabilities"
So why he wanted to leave Lilly behind because of her depression, wanted to leave Omid behind because his leg was shit, wanted to leave Ben behind, was hostile towards Lee in the attic because of the bite?
Keeping humanity is more important.
Id rather have a short and happy life keeping those who others would consider "liabilities" alive tha… moren have a long and dreadful life where i try to survive and only stick up for myself and only keep those around who are "useful".
This is why sarahs death almost ruined the series for me. Nick and her were both dead, so the only people i could really care for are Luke and Kenny (though luke isnt holding the group back terribly much), as much as i love kenny, i know he's part of the (and most likely the main) reason the group fell apart but yknow what? He cared about people others would call "liabilities" and so did Sarah and Nick and Luke, even rebecca and alvin cared, actually, almost every character who showed any bit of humanity died. And as upset as i am all of them died, im glad they died caring
The problem is not that she didn't care, but that she even saw the rest of the group as dead weight, which is worse, because it doesn't mean she will leave them for dead, but actually cause their death if necessary.
Lilly shot doug/carley, he didnt want her gone due to depression, he wanted her gone because she just out of nowhere shot a member of the group. Omid was someone he barely knew and couldnt even trust, thoughhhhhh i see your point with that one in fact i think i entirely forgot about it. Ben kind of started the entire events of episode 3 causing carley/doug, Katjaa, and duck to be killed. He was hostile towards lee because he was scared he would turn while they were all in there.
But thats not the part that pissed me off when i read that post, the whole natural selection thing part REALLY pissed me off.
Dying with humanity is so so soooo much better than dying as a god damn piece of shit like jane or carver who picks who should be able to live or die. Weaker minds btw, is literally one of the most offensive things ever, basically people who care a lot about others are "weaker"? wtf
Id rather have a short and happy life keeping those who others would consider "liabilities" alive than have a long and dreadful life where i… more try to survive and only stick up for myself and only keep those around who are "useful".
Some dont have what it takes to survive. Its just part of natural selection to be honest. Weaker minds will fail in long run.
He cared about people others would call "liabilities"
So why he wanted to leave Lilly behind because of her depression, wanted to leave Omid behind because his leg was shit, wanted to leave Ben behind, was hostile towards Lee in the attic because of the bite?
I dont know where you are pulling this assumption, but its ridiculous.
-she saved Rebecca and Clementine from herd
-she saved Luke from trailer
-she saved Kenny from Vitali
If Clementine wasnt part of that group, she would have just left them as soon as they got out. Would you blame her for that also, for not staying as part of the group and help them?
The problem is not that she didn't care, but that she even saw the rest of the group as dead weight, which is worse, because it doesn't mean she will leave them for dead, but actually cause their death if necessary.
I dont know where you are pulling this assumption, but its ridiculous.
-she saved Rebecca and Clementine from herd
-she saved Luke fro… morem trailer
-she saved Kenny from Vitali
If Clementine wasnt part of that group, she would have just left them as soon as they got out. Would you blame her for that also, for not staying as part of the group and help them?
Lilly shot doug/carley, he didnt want her gone due to depression, he wanted her gone because she just out of nowhere shot a member of the gr… moreoup. Omid was someone he barely knew and couldnt even trust, thoughhhhhh i see your point with that one in fact i think i entirely forgot about it. Ben kind of started the entire events of episode 3 causing carley/doug, Katjaa, and duck to be killed. He was hostile towards lee because he was scared he would turn while they were all in there.
But thats not the part that pissed me off when i read that post, the whole natural selection thing part REALLY pissed me off.
Dying with humanity is so so soooo much better than dying as a god damn piece of shit like jane or carver who picks who should be able to live or die. Weaker minds btw, is literally one of the most offensive things ever, basically people who care a lot about others are "weaker"? wtf
She said she liked them, but she wasnt going to let them drag her down. We know very little about her past, but its obviousy that she had been part of one or more groups where liabilities such as the guy under the car got others killed. Why would she want to go over all that again? They had Luke and Kenny who were in shit condition, a pregant lady and autistic girl, so basically all components needed to create a shit storm.
Well, i think the true question is why shouldn't she?
They were all good people, so literally why the fuck wouldnt she care?? becuase theyre liabilities? fuck that if thats your answer
She doesnt have any issues with that, its you who has issues. You cant accept the fact that some people just dont/are unable give a shit about people they dont care about. Im like that irl so i have no problem with that.
Kenny sucks, if he thought about the group than himself then the group would have been together, Luke doesn't die, Mike, Bonnit & Arvo wouldn't have ran away..
The children are more likely to get someone killed (specifically AJ). Also what do you mean "someone"... Clem has gotten many someone's killed.
•She want you to rob someone.
Kenny wants to kill the person you robbed. (I only say that because most people who make hate threads for Jane are deep-seeded Kenny fans). They both fuck up on multiple occasions.
•She gonna have her own camp soon...
Ok? Is this envy? Or something else? I don't see why you would dislike her for this.
•She won't let new members in her community
She let them in. It's Clem's decision. If Jane didn't let people into the community it's because your Clem didn't let people into the community.
•And also... She wants to leave everything behind, including our old friend.
What do you mean "leave everything behind"? The only thing that comes to mind is Kenny, which you referred to later as "our old friend" so what else? Also, I don't object to leaving Kenny. Mother fucker be hazy crazy.
PIZZA FRIDAY Everybody GOoooooooooooooooo
Even Jane is invited (even though i dislike her but I've moved on with my life and forgiven her for all her missteps.)
Kenny sucks, if he thought about the group than himself then the group would have been together, Luke doesn't die, Mike, Bonnit & Arvo wouldn't have ran away..
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3 of the reasons you give to hate Jane are things Kenny has done. Steal get people killed and wanting to leave people behind. I don't see why starting a camp would be bad and Jane will let people in the group if you let her. I don't hate Jane
There is nothing wrong with that.
Some dont have what it takes to survive. Its just part of natural selection to be honest. Weaker minds will fail in long run.
So why he wanted to leave Lilly behind because of her depression, wanted to leave Omid behind because his leg was shit, wanted to leave Ben behind, was hostile towards Lee in the attic because of the bite?
The problem is not that she didn't care, but that she even saw the rest of the group as dead weight, which is worse, because it doesn't mean she will leave them for dead, but actually cause their death if necessary.
Lilly shot doug/carley, he didnt want her gone due to depression, he wanted her gone because she just out of nowhere shot a member of the group. Omid was someone he barely knew and couldnt even trust, thoughhhhhh i see your point with that one in fact i think i entirely forgot about it. Ben kind of started the entire events of episode 3 causing carley/doug, Katjaa, and duck to be killed. He was hostile towards lee because he was scared he would turn while they were all in there.
But thats not the part that pissed me off when i read that post, the whole natural selection thing part REALLY pissed me off.
Dying with humanity is so so soooo much better than dying as a god damn piece of shit like jane or carver who picks who should be able to live or die. Weaker minds btw, is literally one of the most offensive things ever, basically people who care a lot about others are "weaker"? wtf
Because what about the rest of the group...?
Why should she care about everyone else?
Well, i think the true question is why shouldn't she?
They were all good people, so literally why the fuck wouldnt she care?? becuase theyre liabilities? fuck that if thats your answer
I dont know where you are pulling this assumption, but its ridiculous.
-she saved Rebecca and Clementine from herd
-she saved Luke from trailer
-she saved Kenny from Vitali
If Clementine wasnt part of that group, she would have just left them as soon as they got out. Would you blame her for that also, for not staying as part of the group and help them?
thats the reason jane has issues, because its alllllll about clem or herself
She was unstable and a liability to the group.
His stupidity made him a liability to the group.
Doesnt change anything to be honest. He was a liability.
Carver kills those who he sees doesnt deserve to live, while Jane just prefers to leave them them so they wont drag her down with them.
In terms of survival, which i was talking about. There is nothing offensive about that.
She said she liked them, but she wasnt going to let them drag her down. We know very little about her past, but its obviousy that she had been part of one or more groups where liabilities such as the guy under the car got others killed. Why would she want to go over all that again? They had Luke and Kenny who were in shit condition, a pregant lady and autistic girl, so basically all components needed to create a shit storm.
She doesnt have any issues with that, its you who has issues. You cant accept the fact that some people just dont/are unable give a shit about people they dont care about. Im like that irl so i have no problem with that.
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cool story bro, needs more dragons.
Jane sucks , if she didn't care about the group she should have stayed away and not come back if she didn't want to come back...
Don't like her either, but you're being extreme.
Kenny sucks, if he thought about the group than himself then the group would have been together, Luke doesn't die, Mike, Bonnit & Arvo wouldn't have ran away..
Lol the hate is back. The flame has some extra fuel to reignite.
I'm pretty sure there is a megathread for this topic.
PIZZA FRIDAY Everybody GOoooooooooooooooo
Even Jane is invited (even though i dislike her but I've moved on with my life and forgiven her for all her missteps.)
The children are more likely to get someone killed (specifically AJ). Also what do you mean "someone"... Clem has gotten many someone's killed.
Kenny wants to kill the person you robbed. (I only say that because most people who make hate threads for Jane are deep-seeded Kenny fans). They both fuck up on multiple occasions.
Ok? Is this envy? Or something else? I don't see why you would dislike her for this.
She let them in. It's Clem's decision. If Jane didn't let people into the community it's because your Clem didn't let people into the community.
What do you mean "leave everything behind"? The only thing that comes to mind is Kenny, which you referred to later as "our old friend" so what else? Also, I don't object to leaving Kenny. Mother fucker be hazy crazy.
How many pizza's did you get? Gotta make sure we don't get extra pizza guys...
Not really. But now I hate Kenny more.
I mean I don't hate her, but Kenny over everything.
I always get extra in case my dog wants some.
She did want to come back.
Because she cares about Clementine.
If Kenny didn't shoot most of those Russians the whole group would be dead, or imprisoned
Jeez... Are we still not over this fan war?
Then she shouldn't run away in the first place
I'm going to lock this as it just feels like fuel to the fire that is the Kenny/Jane debate.