If you drew this hand you'd feel pretty lucky as it beats all other hands except 3 (which would draw against it). The probability of getting this wonderful hand is 1 in 2,598,960. If you drew it you might think that you managed to "beat the odds" because you drew something very improbable and it worked out in your favor.
What is the probability of this hand?
2Clubs, 3 Diamands, 5Diamands, 7Hearts, 8Clubs
If you drew this hand you wouldn't feel lucky at all. Your only play is 8 high and the vast majority of all other hands will beat this hand. So what is the probability of drawing this garbage hand?
It's also 1 in 2,598,960.... because the probability of drawing "any" specific hand is 1 in 2,598,960.
Each hand is equally improbable. The only reason you feel "lucky" for one hand and not so "lucky" for another hand is because you're taught to value particular hands over others when you're learning how to play the game.
Similarly, we value what we have because we have it. There are "infinite" variations that "could" have occurred if things were different in one way or another, "many" of which result in life of some kind forming. When you consider the odds of this specific one occurring you might feel like you drew into a royal flush, however chances are you're just holding two pair.
Atheism is a world view, not a scientific one. You help prove that by what you state. As for scientific proof all you need to do is the ma… morethematical probabilities of the universe expanding escaping the force of gravity during the beginning of the big bang. Combine that with the probabilities of life coming into existence and the billions of years of global stability required for dna to form. Also take into account that dna is written in a code that is so sensitive it's nearly impossible to imagine it working at all without an intelligence behind it. The mathematical probability of all these things coming together is beyond comprehension it is so remote.
Also, consider; "if" the universe were "fine tuned" it sure as heck wouldn't have been made "for us."
Look at other things that "are" made "just for us" and it should paint a clear picture.
In simulated realities when universes are created (games, simulations, and all that) the "user" typically has access to very close to 100 percent of the content that is generated. In reality if you go outside of your little bubble of existence that evolution has adapted you to be able to live within, you die. If you were to save reality right now and relocate yourself to every possible location in the universe one after another (load, relocate, load, relocate) you'd die in 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the locations you relocate yourself to most of the time lasting for but a few seconds.
Even within your little "safe to exist" bubble you're not even safe to exist, because there's death traps laid out everywhere!
Houses, which are made "for us" are intelligently designed in such a way that almost nothing will kill us on accident. The "world" however is utterly littered with death traps. Houses... now that I'm thinking about it... are designed to help us overcome many of those death traps.
While this isn't proof that the universe wasn't intelligently designed it "is" evidence that "if it were" that it either wasn't designed "for us" or that the designer sucks balls at design.
In poker, what is the probability of you drawing this hand?
10Spades, JackSpades, QueenSpades, KingSpades, AceSpades
If you drew this … morehand you'd feel pretty lucky as it beats all other hands except 3 (which would draw against it). The probability of getting this wonderful hand is 1 in 2,598,960. If you drew it you might think that you managed to "beat the odds" because you drew something very improbable and it worked out in your favor.
What is the probability of this hand?
2Clubs, 3 Diamands, 5Diamands, 7Hearts, 8Clubs
If you drew this hand you wouldn't feel lucky at all. Your only play is 8 high and the vast majority of all other hands will beat this hand. So what is the probability of drawing this garbage hand?
It's also 1 in 2,598,960.... because the probability of drawing "any" specific hand is 1 in 2,598,960.
Each hand is equally improbable. The only reason you feel "lucky" for one hand and not so "lucky" for an… [view original content]
This is different. You have no proof that religion is fake. On the other hand , we have no proof that it is right. But let us believe , just because you think it is fake does not mean it is actually fake.
Sorry that you find it rude. If a child goes too long without giving up on the idea of Santa... say into early adolescence, is it rude to l… moreet him know that it's just pretend?
There's no good reason to suspect that such a fantastic claim is true, unfortunately
I'd "love" for there to be a heaven, but there's simply no reason to suspect that there is one. The reason it's important to understand this is that believing that there is one, when there isn't, downplays the impact and importance of death.
Sorry that you find it rude. If a child goes too long without giving up on the idea of Santa... say into early adolescence, is it rude to let him know that it's just pretend?
There's no good reason to suspect that such a fantastic claim is true, unfortunately
I'd "love" for there to be a heaven, but there's simply no reason to suspect that there is one. The reason it's important to understand this is that believing that there is one, when there isn't, downplays the impact and importance of death.
I go to funerals and I don't believe in all the Santa for grownups and magic spirit woo woo nonsense.
My going is not for them. It's for… more me. It helps me to process it and it's allocated time to mourn the loss of the person.
Also, that was rather rude of you. There was no need for that.
Would you mind to explain why? Sounds rather hypocritical that only superstitious people get to say anything on that subject.
He is in Va… morelhalla now
He is in heaven now
He is in hell now
He doesnt exist anymore
Which one of those you consider to be offensive then?
It's all about intention. The meaning behind telling someone their loved one could be in heaven (or whatever you want to name it) is to console/comfort them. It isn't shoving any views down your throat... it's simply an attempt to console.
Obviously telling someone their loved one is in hell is a malicious/ ridiculously inconsiderate thing to say. Not even comparable.
Would you mind to explain why? Sounds rather hypocritical that only superstitious people get to say anything on that subject.
He is in Va… morelhalla now
He is in heaven now
He is in hell now
He doesnt exist anymore
Which one of those you consider to be offensive then?
I dont need to believe that i stop existing once i die, its simply the only logical outcome once my brains (which pretty is me) stops working. Its just the same as before i was born, nothingness. How is it bad thing to say that someone who dies goes to same state as before he was born?
No, you say what you believe in, but I don't think they are "idiotic".
Still, you can say whatever you want, just make sure it doesn't hurt them, I think some people here were offended but idk.
It's all about intention. The meaning behind telling someone their loved one could be in heaven (or whatever you want to name it) is to cons… moreole/comfort them. It isn't shoving any views down your throat... it's simply an attempt to console.
Obviously telling someone their loved one is in hell is a malicious/ ridiculously inconsiderate thing to say. Not even comparable.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying some people will probably look at it and think differently, and it might hurt them if you tell them that while they believe something else, it doesn't matter who's right because it's not about that anyway.
And yeah, it might only be logical, but remember that religion isn't always logical, because it believes in a higher entity, with not ordinary human mind.
I dont need to believe that i stop existing once i die, its simply the only logical outcome once my brains (which pretty is me) stops workin… moreg. Its just the same as before i was born, nothingness. How is it bad thing to say that someone who dies goes to same state as before he was born?
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying some people will probably look at it and think differently, and it might hurt them if you tell them that… more while they believe something else, it doesn't matter who's right because it's not about that anyway.
And yeah, it might only be logical, but remember that religion isn't always logical, because it believes in a higher entity, with not ordinary human mind.
West-Christonormative comments reinforce West-Christonormativity which isn't a good thing.
They were condolences, but they were generalising condolences which are just dumb when you could easily say something nice without assuming anything.
Meh... Just read the reply above yours. Cant be asked to write the same again.
Or you could just give me an actual specific reply to what I had said.
It is
No it isn't. Not at all. Seriously, you're trying way too hard here. Like I said above, its nothing more than a freaking condolence. Its not like they are slapping you across the face with a bible and forcing you to share their beliefs. They're just offering comfort. If you don't want to put any stock in that comfort, then fine, but please actually try and recognize these people's intentions instead of 100% missing the point.
I think the difference between you and me is that i wouldnt lie to someone to make them feel better.
We don't know the actual answer to whether there is or isn't an afterlife, so lying about it is an impossibility. There is no harm done in comforting someone.
Meh... Just read the reply above yours. Cant be asked to write the same again.
It isn't shoving any views down your throat
It is.
I think the difference between you and me is that i wouldnt lie to someone to make them feel better.
West-Christonormative comments reinforce West-Christonormativity which isn't a good thing.
Your right, we should have Sharia Law in America. I'm sure everyone be much happier. Right?
Ok, that makes more sense. I've heard "christian-normative" before, but never "West-Christonormative".
I think that's silly too. There is… more nothing wrong with sharing your religious views with someone as long as you aren't being self righteous and rude about it.
I believe George was simply trying to say that American Christianity (in general) isn't necessarily all that harmful... especially in comparison to the actual extreme/dangerous religions in the world.
If all the pain didn't mean anything, what would be the point of going on.
Its all about faith. Either you believe in something bigger th… morean you or you don't.
I have seen some things i can't explain in life, that no one has the answers for.
There is more to life than what you see.
It could be a lot worse in America. People want to knock my religion that 's fine. Its the time we live in now, where Christians are treated like dirt and we are supposed to take it. Not me.
I believe George was simply trying to say that American Christianity (in general) isn't necessarily all that harmful... especially in comparison to the actual extreme/dangerous religions in the world.
Even if i told you you wouldn't believe me anyways. Its something you will have to discover on your own, if your eyes are shut how will you see anything?
Oh please, pain hardly confirms there's an afterlife. Pain is an evolutionary function.
Animals suffer from pain.
There is more to life than what you see
What does that even mean?
It could be a lot worse in America. People want to knock my religion that 's fine. Its the time we live in now, where Christians are treated like dirt and we are supposed to take it. Not me.
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In poker, what is the probability of you drawing this hand?
10Spades, JackSpades, QueenSpades, KingSpades, AceSpades
If you drew this hand you'd feel pretty lucky as it beats all other hands except 3 (which would draw against it). The probability of getting this wonderful hand is 1 in 2,598,960. If you drew it you might think that you managed to "beat the odds" because you drew something very improbable and it worked out in your favor.
What is the probability of this hand?
2Clubs, 3 Diamands, 5Diamands, 7Hearts, 8Clubs
If you drew this hand you wouldn't feel lucky at all. Your only play is 8 high and the vast majority of all other hands will beat this hand. So what is the probability of drawing this garbage hand?
It's also 1 in 2,598,960.... because the probability of drawing "any" specific hand is 1 in 2,598,960.
Each hand is equally improbable. The only reason you feel "lucky" for one hand and not so "lucky" for another hand is because you're taught to value particular hands over others when you're learning how to play the game.
Similarly, we value what we have because we have it. There are "infinite" variations that "could" have occurred if things were different in one way or another, "many" of which result in life of some kind forming. When you consider the odds of this specific one occurring you might feel like you drew into a royal flush, however chances are you're just holding two pair.
I go to funerals and I don't believe in all the Santa for grownups and magic spirit woo woo nonsense.
My going is not for them. It's for me. It helps me to process it and it's allocated time to mourn the loss of the person.
Also, that was rather rude of you. There was no need for that.
Let people believe what they want to believe and don't tell them it's just a story because I find that pretty rude.
Rape's nothing to joke about. What is wrong with you?
Also, consider; "if" the universe were "fine tuned" it sure as heck wouldn't have been made "for us."
Look at other things that "are" made "just for us" and it should paint a clear picture.
In simulated realities when universes are created (games, simulations, and all that) the "user" typically has access to very close to 100 percent of the content that is generated. In reality if you go outside of your little bubble of existence that evolution has adapted you to be able to live within, you die. If you were to save reality right now and relocate yourself to every possible location in the universe one after another (load, relocate, load, relocate) you'd die in 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 percent of the locations you relocate yourself to most of the time lasting for but a few seconds.
Even within your little "safe to exist" bubble you're not even safe to exist, because there's death traps laid out everywhere!
Houses, which are made "for us" are intelligently designed in such a way that almost nothing will kill us on accident. The "world" however is utterly littered with death traps. Houses... now that I'm thinking about it... are designed to help us overcome many of those death traps.
While this isn't proof that the universe wasn't intelligently designed it "is" evidence that "if it were" that it either wasn't designed "for us" or that the designer sucks balls at design.
This is different. You have no proof that religion is fake. On the other hand , we have no proof that it is right. But let us believe , just because you think it is fake does not mean it is actually fake.
Sorry that you find it rude. If a child goes too long without giving up on the idea of Santa... say into early adolescence, is it rude to let him know that it's just pretend?
There's no good reason to suspect that such a fantastic claim is true, unfortunately
I'd "love" for there to be a heaven, but there's simply no reason to suspect that there is one. The reason it's important to understand this is that believing that there is one, when there isn't, downplays the impact and importance of death.
What happened dude?
Join the FOTD Lounge, or, don't join the FOTD Lounge.
Worst decision of my life.
The regret is high.
Someone help me escape.
I cant secretly wish about hot female raping me? What is wrong with you?
Religious people telling "he is in heaven now" isnt offensive then?
No.
It might be rude, but why should i sugercoat the truth?
Would you mind to explain why? Sounds rather hypocritical that only superstitious people get to say anything on that subject.
He is in Valhalla now
He is in heaven now
He is in hell now
He doesnt exist anymore
Which one of those you consider to be offensive then?
He doesn't exist in this world, but they believe his soul still exists, I believe that's why it's found offensive.
It's all about intention. The meaning behind telling someone their loved one could be in heaven (or whatever you want to name it) is to console/comfort them. It isn't shoving any views down your throat... it's simply an attempt to console.
Obviously telling someone their loved one is in hell is a malicious/ ridiculously inconsiderate thing to say. Not even comparable.
So only happy ideas can be shared, even if they are idiotic, simply to make people happy?
He is atheist anyway, so no harm done.
No, you say what you believe in, but I don't think they are "idiotic".
Still, you can say whatever you want, just make sure it doesn't hurt them, I think some people here were offended but idk.
Funny, I didn't know things that can't be proven are known as "truth".
I dont need to believe that i stop existing once i die, its simply the only logical outcome once my brains (which pretty is me) stops working. Its just the same as before i was born, nothingness. How is it bad thing to say that someone who dies goes to same state as before he was born?
YOUR truth
Meh... Just read the reply above yours. Cant be asked to write the same again.
It is.
I think the difference between you and me is that i wouldnt lie to someone to make them feel better.
Havent i talked with you about whats the definition of fact? If not, go read about it.
Pfft you're telling me to go read with the comments you've posted on this thread? Lol, I'll pass, you however should try it.
Its not my opinion, but rather a logical outcome once the source which maintains us is destroyed/dies.
Not on this thread, on some other. Anyway, go read the definition of word "fact".
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying some people will probably look at it and think differently, and it might hurt them if you tell them that while they believe something else, it doesn't matter who's right because it's not about that anyway.
And yeah, it might only be logical, but remember that religion isn't always logical, because it believes in a higher entity, with not ordinary human mind.
If all the pain didn't mean anything, what would be the point of going on.
Its all about faith. Either you believe in something bigger than you or you don't.
I have seen some things i can't explain in life, that no one has the answers for.
There is more to life than what you see.
Well at some point we all had to face the harsh truth about Santa. I just prefer not to lie to make people happy.
Your right, we should have Sharia Law in America. I'm sure everyone be much happier. Right?
Okay...
Now go read your own comments.
Or you could just give me an actual specific reply to what I had said.
No it isn't. Not at all. Seriously, you're trying way too hard here. Like I said above, its nothing more than a freaking condolence. Its not like they are slapping you across the face with a bible and forcing you to share their beliefs. They're just offering comfort. If you don't want to put any stock in that comfort, then fine, but please actually try and recognize these people's intentions instead of 100% missing the point.
We don't know the actual answer to whether there is or isn't an afterlife, so lying about it is an impossibility. There is no harm done in comforting someone.
Umm....do you even know what I was saying?
I literally implied nothing like you're saying.
It was more about assuming they share the same religious views, which is what normativity is about.
Like heteronormativity being assuming every person is interested in the opposite gender.
I believe George was simply trying to say that American Christianity (in general) isn't necessarily all that harmful... especially in comparison to the actual extreme/dangerous religions in the world.
Oh please, pain hardly confirms there's an afterlife. Pain is an evolutionary function.
Animals suffer from pain.
What does that even mean?
It could be a lot worse in America. People want to knock my religion that 's fine. Its the time we live in now, where Christians are treated like dirt and we are supposed to take it. Not me.
Even if i told you you wouldn't believe me anyways. Its something you will have to discover on your own, if your eyes are shut how will you see anything?
Agreed. The world is becoming so secular.